A couple of months ago I reached out to the wonderful "Red-Silver" (who creates fantastic C&C inspired ambience tracks that I've probably listened to half a dozen times each) and he very kindly offered to remake his Nod Cargo Train ambience for a redux of my original video. I took this opportunity to fix a couple of errors (and contentious points regarding dates) and here is the end result. I'm thrilled that he took the time to collaborate on this and I'm very happy with how it came out. Be sure to check out his channel. As well as the ambient tracks I think his C&C 80s mix and Scouting remix are both fantastic.
I find it funny that the "modern" world of C&C Tiberium Dawn, after the mess with Red Alert, has remained identical in terms of borders to our own. LIke, you would think new players would emerge, or the old ones would expand, given the confusion around the collapse of USSR... EDIT: Also - the "Białystok Scandal" was entirely performed by GDI. These creeps have marched in without any warning and started killing civilians. Ive seen it with my own eyes... barely escaped, too!
I think the overlapping-but-branching approach works better like how you did it for Red Alert Pre-war GDI formed by the victorious Allies after the Second Great War (1946-53, with a considerable amount of post-war fighting). Their first major military operation was the Ant incident. NOD goes public at some point, having infiltrated many corporate entities, media organisations, political parties, and rebel groups. They commit a series of terrorist bombings, including the Vienna Grain Exchange The Tiberium meteor falls in Italy 25th September 1995 - NOD hacks EVA and it gets downloaded by several civilians, some who choose to support NOD and some who remain loyal to the GDI The first GDI mission coincides with Nod's operation to muder Nikoomba At some point the campaigns diverge with either Nod rapidly taking over the entirety of Africa, nuking a major landmark and preparing a huge offensive northwards to reinforce their forces dug in in Europe, or over a slightly longer timeframe, the GDI conquering all the Nod-held territory and chasing them down to their final stronghold in Bosnia, the war ending on the 11th November 1998, or 80 years to the day of the WWI Armistice... The player's actions affect whether or not the stock market goes up or down (ion-cannon ending is good, other ways are not). And the millions killed in the war are but a sideshow to the tens or hundreds of millions dead or expecting death from Tiberium poisoning...
this is...AMAZINGLY made! not only explaining the backstory which i didnt even know, and than with the side videos and all that, its just AMAZING! you earn my sub and like!
I'm suprised how this evaded my radar for so long this is brilliant. Just curious about one thing: how do the Covert Operations fit into this like how Aftermath and Counterstrike did for RA?
i dont remember last vid with refinery, power plant and obelisk covered in red fog, is this original CNC 95 footage or perhaps some pre tiberian sun teaser release
This one is ok for me, first Tiberian war occurred during the mid 90s might be suitable for the whole ambience of the game. For 2019 (which mentioned in Renegade manual) didn't match up the whole plot for justice because it would delayed both GDI and Nod conflict together with the first Tiberian War. 2019, 2020? Meh, I stick with the 90s version is ok. 0:12 Let's begin how Tiberian war started. 0:24 That would make sense. 0:28 The trouble begins. 0:38 Sucking up amounts of lifeform turning into toxic plants. Yuck! 0:53 No more ordinary ores which already being contaiminated. 1:00 Good timing with the Noddies radio transmission, now Kane scheme has being reviewed which according to (Censored). 1:09 His time has come to rise up to wage for world domination. 1:16 🤣😅😆 I laughed that part out so hard!!!!! Noddies in America, Japan, Saudi, Ireland, etc. Wow, just wow. So much of a average terrorist organizations. Plus some of them are Mercenaries. 😨 Thus, one of them who murdered (Still Censored). 1:24 Even some of those contractors, generals, and traitors who are among them. That's why GDI can't access Apache, Bradley, Hercules aka Cargo plane, Buggies, Raptors, etc are being stolen. 😡 1:32 Thus, the GDI was born! Ho rah or Horary! Mankind savior. 🤜🤛Also (Censored) who joined GDI to wage revenge on someone mess. 1:40 They going to need a bigger vacuum for that. 1:49 Oh boy. 2:01 Crud, looks like half of the countries are being goofed by Noddies. 2:05 Europe Incident 95. 2:14 Home of Kane. 2:21 Thus it keep growing. 2:28 Hell break loose. 2:38 That's true, Tiberian are nothing more than toxic resources that could affect human lifeform. Better put on your biohazard suit or leave the infected area before you become a mutants. 2:45 Looks like the blood is pouring again. 2:53 First Strike went failure with unskilled strategy. 3:02 Neutral Countries don't take side between Nod and GDI. Until their countries was fed up by them again. 3:08 Here we go. 3:26 More like power struggle. 3:34 Africa Massacre's which led by Seth. 3:41 Seth aka Kane Right Hand. 3:51 The so called anti-Nod didn't worked out to well but they should join GDI or withdraw.
can i request the command and conquer generals lore? might be interesting to see a conflict between USA and China against GLA in the middle east and Europe
I wonder if Nod control of countries was direct or in-direct, and to what degree invaded nations were able to fight defending forces. Could post-soviet states like ukrane, especially after a possible RA connection, have been using antiquated heavy tanks and scud missiles/V2s to fight Nod forces?
I really love the idea that some of the old RA1 tech was still in use by some of the neutral factions during TD. I know there are some mods that combine the tech trees from both games, would love to see something similar in the Remaster.
Some former Soviet satellites, like Yugoslavia most preeminently, welcomed the Brotherhood with open arms, as NOD brought their Tiberium-based prosperity to them, putting an end to the instability in those countries. Dissenters, naturally, would be dealt with, swiftly and harshly.
Well they went public at some point between the Allied Victory in RA (ca 1953, with considerable actions after that point during the occupation) and 1995 So it's a mix of terrorism and conspiracy, and some ostensibly legal acts, like political parties affiliated with Nod winning elections.
@@christopherwall2121In this timeline, Nod was behind the Black Hand (who started WWI in real life, with history ostensibly being identical until the disappearance of a German putchist after his 1925 release from prison).
@@jamesperkins191 If NOD is behind the assassination of Franz Ferdinand, then either Gavrillo Princip was left out to dry by NOD, possibly due to some internal power struggles, or the assassination was much more professionally handled than it was in our timeline.
We had a LONG discussion about this in the aftermath of the original video I made. This was one of the things I changed for the redux. In short, Renegade either takes place during the First Tib War, or after in 2020. Either way you need to ignore (a) the manual, or (b) Westwood interviews. There are things in the game that don't make sense if it is set during the TW1, and there are things in the game that don't make sense if it is set in 2020. Regardless of when Renegade takes place (which is your choice, because it is internally inconsistent) Tib Dawn takes place in in the late 90s.
He was one of the folk I discussed it with. I fully agreed with his video initially but I think he's also considering the possibility that Renegade is a separate conflict. Like I said, it doesn't work either way, so it's just a matter of choosing what works best for you.
nice to see people get inspired by black mesa events vid, thanks for this one
A couple of months ago I reached out to the wonderful "Red-Silver" (who creates fantastic C&C inspired ambience tracks that I've probably listened to half a dozen times each) and he very kindly offered to remake his Nod Cargo Train ambience for a redux of my original video. I took this opportunity to fix a couple of errors (and contentious points regarding dates) and here is the end result. I'm thrilled that he took the time to collaborate on this and I'm very happy with how it came out.
Be sure to check out his channel. As well as the ambient tracks I think his C&C 80s mix and Scouting remix are both fantastic.
I’m glad to be part of it Sven, I love the attention to detail in your videos!
This video is awesome a perfect timeline of the first tiberium war.
Would you care to comment on this video since you both came to different opinions on the date of the Tiberium War?
This was such a great video. There is something about the world of the tiberium games that I just love so much.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it. I'm a great lover of the Tiberium universe as well.
I find it funny that the "modern" world of C&C Tiberium Dawn, after the mess with Red Alert, has remained identical in terms of borders to our own. LIke, you would think new players would emerge, or the old ones would expand, given the confusion around the collapse of USSR...
EDIT: Also - the "Białystok Scandal" was entirely performed by GDI. These creeps have marched in without any warning and started killing civilians. Ive seen it with my own eyes... barely escaped, too!
How is it possible that this gem evaded me for so long?!?!?!
I think the overlapping-but-branching approach works better like how you did it for Red Alert
Pre-war GDI formed by the victorious Allies after the Second Great War (1946-53, with a considerable amount of post-war fighting). Their first major military operation was the Ant incident.
NOD goes public at some point, having infiltrated many corporate entities, media organisations, political parties, and rebel groups.
They commit a series of terrorist bombings, including the Vienna Grain Exchange
The Tiberium meteor falls in Italy
25th September 1995 - NOD hacks EVA and it gets downloaded by several civilians, some who choose to support NOD and some who remain loyal to the GDI
The first GDI mission coincides with Nod's operation to muder Nikoomba
At some point the campaigns diverge with either Nod rapidly taking over the entirety of Africa, nuking a major landmark and preparing a huge offensive northwards to reinforce their forces dug in in Europe,
or
over a slightly longer timeframe, the GDI conquering all the Nod-held territory and chasing them down to their final stronghold in Bosnia, the war ending on the 11th November 1998, or 80 years to the day of the WWI Armistice...
The player's actions affect whether or not the stock market goes up or down (ion-cannon ending is good, other ways are not).
And the millions killed in the war are but a sideshow to the tens or hundreds of millions dead or expecting death from Tiberium poisoning...
this is...AMAZINGLY made! not only explaining the backstory which i didnt even know, and than with the side videos and all that, its just AMAZING! you earn my sub and like!
Thank you, I'm glad you liked it.
Might be 3 years late, but thanks. this was great.
What about Tiberian Sun/Firestorm and Tiberium Wars Everyday Timeline video?
I'm suprised how this evaded my radar for so long this is brilliant. Just curious about one thing: how do the Covert Operations fit into this like how Aftermath and Counterstrike did for RA?
Not sure, but I'm sure at least some of the missions are post-war
I know that one Nod Mission is after the Nod Temple Strike, as GDI attempts to set up a relay in North Africa.@@jamesperkins191
oh my god, I just landed on gold here :D
Great job.
how i wish to see tiberian sun events depicted in this style both containing EVA and CABAL voice narrations
Masterpiece
i dont remember last vid with refinery, power plant and obelisk covered in red fog, is this original CNC 95 footage or perhaps some pre tiberian sun teaser release
Maybe mention the mission names/codenames if applicable somewhere in small print that's not noticeable, but still readable?
This one is ok for me, first Tiberian war occurred during the mid 90s might be suitable for the whole ambience of the game. For 2019 (which mentioned in Renegade manual) didn't match up the whole plot for justice because it would delayed both GDI and Nod conflict together with the first Tiberian War. 2019, 2020? Meh, I stick with the 90s version is ok.
0:12 Let's begin how Tiberian war started.
0:24 That would make sense.
0:28 The trouble begins.
0:38 Sucking up amounts of lifeform turning into toxic plants. Yuck!
0:53 No more ordinary ores which already being contaiminated.
1:00 Good timing with the Noddies radio transmission, now Kane scheme has being reviewed which according to (Censored).
1:09 His time has come to rise up to wage for world domination.
1:16 🤣😅😆 I laughed that part out so hard!!!!! Noddies in America, Japan, Saudi, Ireland, etc. Wow, just wow. So much of a average terrorist organizations. Plus some of them are Mercenaries. 😨 Thus, one of them who murdered (Still Censored).
1:24 Even some of those contractors, generals, and traitors who are among them. That's why GDI can't access Apache, Bradley, Hercules aka Cargo plane, Buggies, Raptors, etc are being stolen. 😡
1:32 Thus, the GDI was born! Ho rah or Horary! Mankind savior. 🤜🤛Also (Censored) who joined GDI to wage revenge on someone mess.
1:40 They going to need a bigger vacuum for that.
1:49 Oh boy.
2:01 Crud, looks like half of the countries are being goofed by Noddies.
2:05 Europe Incident 95.
2:14 Home of Kane.
2:21 Thus it keep growing.
2:28 Hell break loose.
2:38 That's true, Tiberian are nothing more than toxic resources that could affect human lifeform. Better put on your biohazard suit or leave the infected area before you become a mutants.
2:45 Looks like the blood is pouring again.
2:53 First Strike went failure with unskilled strategy.
3:02 Neutral Countries don't take side between Nod and GDI. Until their countries was fed up by them again.
3:08 Here we go.
3:26 More like power struggle.
3:34 Africa Massacre's which led by Seth.
3:41 Seth aka Kane Right Hand.
3:51 The so called anti-Nod didn't worked out to well but they should join GDI or withdraw.
can i request the command and conquer generals lore?
might be interesting to see a conflict between USA and China against GLA in the middle east and Europe
Apparently the whole Iberian peninsula doesn't exist in the CnC universe. lmao (In Red Alert does appear thought).
I guess it was just outside of the theatre of war for Europe and saw no major force deployments for either side.
@@igncom1I think the Spanish Republuc survives in this Universe - Spain was Allied in Red Alert
I wonder if Nod control of countries was direct or in-direct, and to what degree invaded nations were able to fight defending forces. Could post-soviet states like ukrane, especially after a possible RA connection, have been using antiquated heavy tanks and scud missiles/V2s to fight Nod forces?
I really love the idea that some of the old RA1 tech was still in use by some of the neutral factions during TD. I know there are some mods that combine the tech trees from both games, would love to see something similar in the Remaster.
Some former Soviet satellites, like Yugoslavia most preeminently, welcomed the Brotherhood with open arms, as NOD brought their Tiberium-based prosperity to them, putting an end to the instability in those countries. Dissenters, naturally, would be dealt with, swiftly and harshly.
Well they went public at some point between the Allied Victory in RA (ca 1953, with considerable actions after that point during the occupation) and 1995
So it's a mix of terrorism and conspiracy, and some ostensibly legal acts, like political parties affiliated with Nod winning elections.
@@christopherwall2121In this timeline, Nod was behind the Black Hand (who started WWI in real life, with history ostensibly being identical until the disappearance of a German putchist after his 1925 release from prison).
@@jamesperkins191 If NOD is behind the assassination of Franz Ferdinand, then either Gavrillo Princip was left out to dry by NOD, possibly due to some internal power struggles, or the assassination was much more professionally handled than it was in our timeline.
Do one with red alert and red alert 2 aswell with maps like this and cutscenes besides it.
I already have an RA1 vid up if you haven't seen it and I'm planning to do future instalments as well for the later games.
It's sad that reign of fire and the first tiberium war had better 2020s.
Did you cover the other Tiberium Wars?
I never did, sorry.
Wait 1997 but I remember that tiberium war start on 2020 or 2019 recording to renegade manual
We had a LONG discussion about this in the aftermath of the original video I made. This was one of the things I changed for the redux.
In short, Renegade either takes place during the First Tib War, or after in 2020. Either way you need to ignore (a) the manual, or (b) Westwood interviews. There are things in the game that don't make sense if it is set during the TW1, and there are things in the game that don't make sense if it is set in 2020.
Regardless of when Renegade takes place (which is your choice, because it is internally inconsistent) Tib Dawn takes place in in the late 90s.
Renegade manual also apparently was using TS GDI logo while the game only used the TD GDI logo
Excellent spot, thanks for that.
Ohh I see I just from No Strings Prd
He was one of the folk I discussed it with. I fully agreed with his video initially but I think he's also considering the possibility that Renegade is a separate conflict. Like I said, it doesn't work either way, so it's just a matter of choosing what works best for you.