I bought a weight set and bench at 14. Started training at home. Ate a good diet. Balanced. Mom is a great cook. I made good improvements after a couple years. Didn't bulk up, just put on muscle and was gifted with good lines. Joined a gym at 17 right after high school. Started listening to the gym bros and started eating more protein and calories because I had to "bulk up". Big mistake. I look at old pics and realize now at 58 that I looked much better when I trained at home. Ate home cooked meals etc. Like Mike said: " keep it simple"
Gyms tend to encourage overtraining...if you drive thirty mins to get to a gym you want to stay a while...if you work out at home you do not have that dynamic...bulking up is for steroid users only...to many young men took advise from steroid users who themselves were clueless but made great progress because of anabolic steroids.
I looked awful when I was regularly going to the gym. I train at home with the basics and I look a great deal better. I think the reasons for this was because I was ego lifting to look stronger in the gym and I bulked to much for too long because I wasn't as big as others. Now lifting at home, I try to make the exercises harder, lift slowly and feel like my body is big enough
Most likely there’s a reason it didn’t work for you. Most people don’t eat right before the training period and eating right after. It’s easier to do at home. I’ve overtrained and I saw no difference one year vs 8-12 sets per body part with todays thinking.
Mike Mentzer was a true intellectual and simply honest about what was required to build a muscular physique. I applied his high intensity principles many years ago and have had great success with achieving a muscular build. His knowledge and wisdom was truly astonishing.
Hey John, I am so enjoying these clips of Mike.. THANK YOU! I got all the books including The Wisdom of Mike Mentzer that you did with Joanne Sharkey. Fabulous book. Keep up the great work. The younger generation really are misguided and need this information.
@@eduardoshilinsky kids are watching...if the male ideal body is a huge bloated steroid abused body it's terrible...better to show what a body is capable of looking naturly..I'll take my natural 17 inch arms with my 29 inch waist and be happy knowing I'm usually the best built man in the room and have great health...the verdict is out sir...steroids inflame and enlarge the heart...raise bad fats...destroy the delicate endocrine system...disease the liver..etc etc and all for temporary gains...I'll have 17 inch arms tomorrow and next year but steroid users can't make that claim...wait...they can for a while until it catches up with them...they are literally dropping like flies
It's so refreshing to hear Mike talking about the importance of carbs for your brain and neuromuscular system. For that reason alone, I will never go on a Keto or low carbohydrate diet again.
But mate u know that there is a huge difference between eating 70 g carbs on LCHF instead of 450 g on high carb? Your body needs carbs, but not tons of them. And ketone cells also exist not without a reason. Mike could eat everything and he would grown anyway as he was supplementing his vitamin S and T.
@@johndoe53831Your diet on gear is just as important as if you're not on gear in terms of looking good. You couldn't look like Mike eating like garbage even on gear.
Balanced diet from all 4 food groups…interesting concept! Not sure it’ll catch on in the internet influencer fad diet world…😂. I’m reading a book about Keto diet and performance. The author talks about increasing fat oxidation etc…the book never mentions calories. Being simple and practical minded, I asked myself…wouldn’t you be increasing fat oxidation if you’re in a calorie deficit just eating a balanced diet? Of course there’s no discussion about that in the book as it wouldn’t sell more books!
Say what you want about Mike Mentzer, he was ahead of his time and called out the supplement BS for what it was...and this was back in 81'. 40 years later people are still wasting their money on useless supplements.
@@daganperretti8617 I treat protein powder as food, don't think about it as supplement (hope you can catch my drift). I mean, I take creatine as a supplement and whenever I need like 20, 30, 40g of protein in my day that I can get from "regular food", I have whey protein as a meal or part of a meal. For me it is just convenient but people do think that taking this is paramount to muscle growth.
Mike takes body science to an amazing level i congratulate you on your content his information is invaluable. Out of curiosity i wonder what his post training nutrition he would consume or if he saw any relevance as so many supplements are pushed .
Mike and Ray Mentzer were so on track with training and honesty, it's amazing how much candor these men had with their advice! Mike had such honesty about nutrition and plain hard training as well as the seriousness of rest and allowing your body to recover. And simplifying the diet and exposing the big business of supplements and misleading information just to sell you $omething. Rip Mentzer brothers you are missed🙏 but your advice lives on! ♥💪
Mike mentzer is the soul of old school bodybuilding. I love his approach to the sport and his mentality The first person that introduced me to him was dorian yates (the shadow) also another solid sophisticated mentality. Bodybuilding has more to do with hour brain before your body thanks for the videos much love from 🇬🇧
The whole 1g of protein per lb of bodyweight is a myth. I weight 175lbs and have ate anywhere between 90g-180g of protein and seen not one bit of difference, if anything my workouts are better with extra carbs. I think the studies must be funded by supplement companies
This is my first time ever posting a comment. I just want to thank you John for posting these videos and all your hard work through out the years. My first 6 years of training were a waste of effort and time. Now after 28 years of training, I owe Mike so much. He has saved me sooo much Time and Money, and have always been able to get the most out of mine and others genetic potential.
Sugar is actually sucrose, but like fructose, it becomes glucose when it hits the bloodstream (as do most food stuffs). You can also build muscle eating a well-balanced diet that includes carbohydrates, which is what Mike advocated.
@@woahblackbettybamalam Fructose is the sugar found in fruit and honey, which has been consumed by human beings for hundreds of thousands of years with no I’ll effect. If what you’re saying is true (that fruit sugar is toxic) than anyone and everyone, including the starving among us, would instantly become fat because they ate an apple. Besides, table sugar is not fructose as I indicated.
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE What you don’t realise is that fruit before artificial selection contained a small fraction of the fruit available today. And fruit had far more insoluble fiber which further suppresses sugars negative effects
@@woahblackbettybamalam Perhaps so, however if you gave an orange to a prisoner just coming out of Auschwitz, the effect would not be toxicity and obesity; it would be that he would live to see another day. The problem with demonizing sugar, and to make it seem like one is ingesting cyanide, is that there are too many exceptions to such a rule to make it categorical.
Mike was amazing with his knowledge and eloquence, a lot of so called gurus nowadays just take away from his wisdom and pretend to own it, Do your research and Thanks once again to John for sharing these True gems to keep Us mere pheasants informed, Kudos Brother and keep them coming!
Mentzer built his body with steroids...he was ignorant about sugar and carbs...here he is saying carbs are great....and fasting is bad....just ignorance....but wait you say...he built a world class body he must have known what he was speaking of...wrong...steroids guarantee results...I did a cycle once and didn't even work out...put three inches on my arms virtually overnight....
If there were complete and transparent bodybuilding tutelage, it would eliminate all of the BS. Just say, “professional bodybuilding is a four legged chair: diet, exercise, genetics, and the miracle of modern chemistry. If one leg is missing, the chair will not work.” Let’s learn the truth about what drugs are used for what purposes and in what amounts, how to take them, and when to take them.
I’ve been on carnivore/lion diet and have great results as far as weight loss. I just started lifting Mikes way and it’s hard to grasp eating carbs after watching all the stuff on UA-cam 😅
Same. Carnivore has helped me lose so much fat. It also helped me lose inflammation, Every time I eat carbs I gain weight so quickly and I don't even need to eat much of them for that to happen.
Mike was one of the best...ever. I miss him. A Bruce Lee of Bodybuilding. That simple. Simple, direct and efficient. His ideas were fought by the ESTABLISHMENT like traditional martial artist fought and critized Bruce's in combat arts because it didn't sell the "discourse" of the ones in power in the fitness industry. And for the record...Joe and Ben were my friends....but the truth is the truth.
Not true, B vitamins are a needed component to derive energy from foods, that is why the people who went on candy weight loss experiments took vitamins as well. Can't really "just eat sugar" and lose weight without issues rising up.
@@zek9759 Not how it works lol. Seed oils aren't amazing because of Vitamin E either, you need Vitamin E to balance other components of it such as polyunsaturated fatty acids. Foods are packaged with vitamins for a reason. It might have been the case that you'd derive a lot of micronutrients from various food groups, but since at least the 1950s the quantity of vitamins has been on a decline.
now clear this confusion how to get the diet. Mike said 1.2 gram protein per 1Kg of body weight so for 50 it'd be 60grams protein and that's 25percent of the diet so to get 60% carbs will do the maths it's 144grams of carbs and 15% fat is 36gram the second way mike said here is know what's your maintenance calories intake is divide it 60%,25%,15% but then if 1500 calories is maintenance we'll have to check how many grams of protein and carbs this food contain and for both to know calories ×4 and for fat ×9 make account of it equal to 1500 calories with 60% carbs ,25% protein and 15% fat but for example black chickpeas says it has 300+ caloriee per 100gm and have 20 protein which is 80 calories and carbs 63 which is 252 calories so we have to divide calories we got from what in the same food or do we need the first way???
Now was Mike's rule/belief on 60% carbs hard and fast? I feel fine as far as performance goes eating 60%, but man ìs it tough to wolf down around 360 grams of carbs a day. Did Mike ever discuss slightly adjusting percentages? For instance lowering carbs down to 50% and upping the fat slightly?
""And you too could become a Mr. Olympia... if you kiss the right asses." "Don't split hairs... unless you get off on it." Mike was funny, I like the humor sprinkled in
I'm glad I run in to his diet advice. I have been eating too much chicken breast and spent a lot with little gains... now I am cutting, I felt nothing negative has change and make my life way better when I follow this advice. Lowering my protein and meals is great
Low carb diets did cause memory impairment and loss of acuity for me. Made me aggressive. Everyone else claims it made them mentally sharp. Can someone's biology be SO different as to require the complete opposite of someone else? Say a carnivore diet?
Mike is making a lot of good sense here, like he has said don't rely on supplements, get your nutrition from eating healthy foods, that's why they call em "supplements" they shouldn't replace healthy eating, personally I haven't taken supplements since I was a teenager and I'm 58 now and have stayed in good shape without them, they couldn't pay me to take that crap, you don't know what they put in that shit!
i wish Mike would have kept his head on straight and after he was done competing continued to train and eat right without drugs like Frank Zane and some others did... Sad how he lost everything including his life at such a young age imo...
Your body will make glucose from fat. I loved carbohydrate. I'd eat 80% of my calories from starch given the choice. And I seemed very healthy. However, my HBCA1 was 5.6. That's only 0.1 below what the Germans consider to be pre-diabetic. I ate six slices of wholemeal bread and eggs 40 minutes before a blood test and my blood sugar had spiked to 8.7. That's frightening. Okay, my fasting sugar had moved in thirty years (at 5.2), but I've been eating more fat. Just had 100g of mixed nuts to supplement my reduced rice intake. I put the steak mince 5% fat into my meal without draining. Those changes. Maybe 40% carbohydrate, 30% calories, 30% fat. My endurance hasn't suffered, by I stink of ammonia, which indicates muscle breakdown. I don't gain muscle as easily, so maybe the insulin spikes were useful for that. But you want to avoid blood sugar problems.
@@wearetheremnants1615 I think ypu should both give low-sprayed organic foods a try. Been experimenting a lot myself lately and one type of oats can give me issues while another higher quality is just fine. Same with most vegetables and fruits.
I respect Mike’s opinion-he knew this doesn’t work if you let your calories get out of control. However, I think this was an aspect he was a bit too dogmatic about, but was probably harder to research a few decades ago, as well.
Has mikes work ever been disproven? .. all you hear these days is .. high protein.. you'd think today we would have more accurate info than the 80s or 90s.. surely?
One thing to say about low carb : I tried keto (very low carb) and indeed in the beginning you feel bad, but after that it improves and i felt better than ever. However : hit training will be virtually impossible with keto diet, although I never gave it a chance. You have to be in keto for probably multiple months in succession. After that you can add intensity. So my point is: he is not completely right about the negative aspects of low carb : they are temporarily and with good use, it can improve your life, but not necessarily the ability to train your maximum intensity potential.
Jerry Brainum did a 5/2 split, that is, do KETO Mon - Fri, then eat carbs on the weekend, so come your Monday workout you can train hard, and also reap the benefits of low carb throughout the week. After 3 years of straight KETO, I'm going to try it.
@@Magneticlaw that will work, although... It's not real keto😉 I now do healthy carbs (organic, brown rice, patatoes, sweet patatoes, 100%sourdough bread and ofc vegetables. But I decided to stop my HIT regime. I felt too tired during the week although I still made progress about every workout. But its only a hobby I don't want to be tired all the time 😋 now I mixed it up in a 4 week split, with every 4th week being hit. The other 3 are more volume based. Done that before and both have benefits, now it improves each other.
I'm pretty sure Mike lists the percentages, you should watch "Determining Your Maintenance Need of Calories" and then make the appropriate calculations based on the percentages of the number you come up with.
I think he went too deep on carbohydrates being all the same . A high sugar cookie which is a carb will spike blood sugar way higher than a low glycemic index food like a sweet potatoe
What he’s saying is once they get broke down in the body they are all the same , identical , the spike happens with more refined carbs , As long as your body is in deprivation it will just suck them all up ( after workout )
I love these videos John, I would've given anything to have had the opportunity to meet Mike. Thank you for posting these!!! I'm a huge fan of Bruce Lee too, I have all of your books on him from years ago!!!
Carbohydrates have zero necessity’s for life. Fats and proteins are necessary, and water. I cant agree that our diet needs to be full of inflammatory carbs. Other than fruits, modern man had no regular access to sugar until recent history “past 500 years or so”. Doesn’t make much sense to me. Appreciate the video and the thinking process it employs
Mike was a genius about bodybuilding, but he was all washed up on diet. Carbohydrates seem necessary, because your body is used to them. Eliminate them and you respond negatively for awhile, until your body adapts to burning fat. After that, your body and brain run very efficiently on fats. You’ll feel like Superman.
i wish i had the belief i have now about training decades ago... we all were lied to in those mags we loved to read... all the money i spent on protein powers etc ...geeezzz insane
I must be the only one who experiments...I done 290 grams of protein a day and forty grams or less per day..result?.greater...much much greater gains on forty grams a day...our protein needs are minimum....but get this...if I start selling protein powder I'm gonna tell you that you need hundreds of grams per day...only creatine and steroids can take you past your genetic limit
Mentzer was ignorant about carbs...doubtful he could have ever won a natural competition with his lack of knowledge so bring in steroids...anybody will make big gains on steroids...you don't even need to work out to get great results...steroids initiate protein synthesis in and of themselves so even a dummy looks like a body building expert
The proportions relied on from 'experts' are as unreliable as conventional training. Too much is as bad as too little, and 60% carbohydrate is way more than is good for the body, just as ketosis is an indication of a carbohydrate deficit.
A bodybuilder's body typically uses 12% protein, 25% carbohydrate, 63% fat (ingested and bodyfat). Bodyfat is 57% monounsaturated, 40% saturated, 3% essential fatty acids, and this is the best balance to eat; hence the healthy Mediterranean diet.
How can Mike say carbs are more important than protein, protein can turn into carbs but carbs can't be used to build muscle, you need to put protein first because carbs are everywhere, protein is often the most lacked in most Americans diet, there getting to much carbs and fats and not much protein
Carbohydrates are the body’s preferred source of fuel. This is why they refer to by nutritional scientists as “protein sparing,” as they literally spare protein from being used as an energy source, so that it can be used for its primary function, which is growth and repair. Also, proteins cannot be converted into carbohydrates, as they are two separate macronutrients. Both protein and carbohydrates, and fats, for that matter, can, and are converted into glucose, which is the body’s energy currency.
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE carbs are not the body preferred source of fuel! Per gram of carbs that 4 calories burnt per gram of protein that's 4 but per gram of fat its like 9, the body naturally wants to burn fat plus many of your organs and hormones need fat! ..... Smh
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE you do know the body can take extra protein can convert them into energy aka carbs right?? This has been known since like the 1940s and 1950s Vince Gironda made many diet using high protein diets and high fat diets and proved all of what I'm talking about
@@19floyed I do know that. However, it doesn’t alter the fact that carbohydrates are still the body’s preferred source of fuel. It can also take fats and convert them into energy substrates, but that doesn’t make fats the body’s preferred source of fuel. Protein’s primary purpose is growth and repair. To utilize protein for energy substrate, the body has to take alanine, an amino acid, send it to the liver and convert it to glucose (gluconeogenesis). This is a lengthy process, which is why carbohydrates are the body’s preferred source of energy. Indeed, that is the role that carbohydrates play in nutrition for the body.
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE it's hard process only because the average American today is addicted to carbohydrates but fifty years ago they did have this problem, dairy, eggs, steak, cheese and chicken where in almost every household and amino acids is in protein, this is why natural bodybuilders use to eat tons of protein and fats!!!! Like in eggs and CLA which tells the body to burn fat! Carbs make you fat because if you eat over like 12 grams it spikes your insulin and tells your body not to burn fat but to store fat! SSSSOOOO ... how in the world is carbs the bodies primarily fuel? We are doin the opposite of what the old-school natural bodybuilders did and even our ancient ancestors did, they had a high protein, high- medium, fat low carb diets these are facts
No way would i think my nutritional knowledge would be even a fraction of Mikes, but given what we know today, is that not a bit high in carbs and low in fats, respectfully.....
Hi Augustus. It may well be, but then nutritional fashion seems to change over the decades with certain macronutrients emphasized over others depending upon the decade (and method) of the research. I don't see that life expectancy (mortality rates) have risen since the late 1970s (when Mike was reading and sharing what he read of nutritional science), but we have learned that certain types of people have a tendency to overdo (over-consume) certain types of food and (particularly if they are not physically active), this can lead to problems. Most problems tend to stem from over-consumption, generally, rather than from one type of nutrient. A well-balanced diet seems (even now) to be a reasonable proposition. However, my videos are simply presentations of what Mike believed and acted upon; if someone else prefers eating no carbs or low carbs or high fat or high protein, that's fine by me.
Mike never claimed he was natural or never took steroids. Indeed, he was one of the first bodybuilders who admitted that all bodybuilders, himself included, use steroids. His credibility remains intact on that matter. You may want to watch the videos before you critique them.
John Little sorry I was referring to his brother, he states that he’s bigger than most bodybuilders who were on steroids even though he wasn’t…… weighing 276lbs….. ripped…..
@@jetlee2790 Ray spoke that statement in 1990, when he was in fact off steroids and therefore natural. He also says in the interview that he did take steroids for a number of years. Given that Ray was bigger and stronger than most bodybuilders (he didn’t say “all” bodybuilders), I don’t see how his credibility is lacking either. Thank you for the clarification though.
John Little come on now little fella, you can’t be on steroids for years then have a few weeks off and claim to be natural, that’s pathetic pal, I know your very keen on the Mentzers but let’s not be silly
I disagree with that macro split. 25% protein is far too low for when I’m cutting. Say that I can cut at 2000-2250 calories; that means that 500-560 calories for protein. Each gram of protein is 4 calories which means I’d be getting only about 125-140g of protein. If I weigh about 200 pounds then that means I’m only getting aboht 0.6-0.7g of protein per pound of body weight which is undershooting it by a margin. The least I’d go is 0.8g of protein per pound of body weight. Optimally you want to be within 0.8g-1.2g of protein per pound of bodyweight.
@@markoschannel5841 my two reasons are: People that have good growth and great physiques while cutting advocate for that. My second reason is that I overshoot my protein just incase I come short with counting, consumption, etc...
Who the hell would give this a thumbs down? It is extremely rare to hear a bodybuilder with even a remote understanding of biochemistry and metabolism. Mr. Mentzer was the portal from bodybuilding to exercise science. It’s my opinion that the true tragedy was that this man did not pursue a PhD and become a university prof with a specialty in muscle hypertrophy and publish to the science community to better understand the stimulus requirements for muscular growth.
@@gerRule why are you acting like "reading" the latest data from people like Andy Galpin doesnt make me more informed than someone whos trying to tell me that fucking carbohydrates are the most important macro
@@josephpeters7076 you have zero idea what youre talking about. The fact that you think carbs are more important than protein and fat is hilarious. The fact you think knowledge resides within muscles, and the fact you assume im an out of shape "gamer" is hilarious. Im sure the national library of medicine is wrong while youre actually right, defending a body builder whos telling you outdated information regarding nutrition of all things, youre an idiot. And i bet you would like to see my physique you weirdo. Carbs are not even required by the body, let alone the most important. Try learning human biology
I bought a weight set and bench at 14. Started training at home. Ate a good diet. Balanced. Mom is a great cook. I made good improvements after a couple years. Didn't bulk up, just put on muscle and was gifted with good lines. Joined a gym at 17 right after high school. Started listening to the gym bros and started eating more protein and calories because I had to "bulk up". Big mistake. I look at old pics and realize now at 58 that I looked much better when I trained at home. Ate home cooked meals etc. Like Mike said: " keep it simple"
Good points. Thanks for your post.
Gyms tend to encourage overtraining...if you drive thirty mins to get to a gym you want to stay a while...if you work out at home you do not have that dynamic...bulking up is for steroid users only...to many young men took advise from steroid users who themselves were clueless but made great progress because of anabolic steroids.
I looked awful when I was regularly going to the gym. I train at home with the basics and I look a great deal better.
I think the reasons for this was because I was ego lifting to look stronger in the gym and I bulked to much for too long because I wasn't as big as others.
Now lifting at home, I try to make the exercises harder, lift slowly and feel like my body is big enough
Most likely there’s a reason it didn’t work for you. Most people don’t eat right before the training period and eating right after. It’s easier to do at home. I’ve overtrained and I saw no difference one year vs 8-12 sets per body part with todays thinking.
That happened to me as well. Its come full circle
Mike Mentzer was a true intellectual and simply honest about what was required to build a muscular physique.
I applied his high intensity principles many years ago and have had great success with achieving a muscular build.
His knowledge and wisdom was truly astonishing.
Thanks for posting.
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Thank you for the great content.
I’m a big Mike Mentzer fan.
@@kenkramer6761 You’re welcome, Ken. I am sincerely glad that you enjoy it.
Thanks for your post!
Hey John, I am so enjoying these clips of Mike.. THANK YOU!
I got all the books including The Wisdom of Mike Mentzer that you did with Joanne Sharkey. Fabulous book. Keep up the great work. The younger generation really are misguided and need this information.
Another subject which is made complex for business reasons, Mike Mentzers rational approach does not get old. Thanks John.
You're welcome. Thanks for the post.
Yours is a wise take. Folks need to separate business (greed) from what is true. All the best to you and yours.
Mike Mentzer was and still is the best. He was unique! He is my idol.
He might have appeared on the MacGyver Shilinsky Show.
@peter pan Tell me something I don't know..."peter pan". I admire the walking, not the ending.
Men who destroy their body with steroids aren't to be admired....if you notice these guys are dropping dead like flies
@@richardlawson6787 so what? Priests rape children, celebrities snort coke, humans are humans. Mike was a unique human being.
@@eduardoshilinsky kids are watching...if the male ideal body is a huge bloated steroid abused body it's terrible...better to show what a body is capable of looking naturly..I'll take my natural 17 inch arms with my 29 inch waist and be happy knowing I'm usually the best built man in the room and have great health...the verdict is out sir...steroids inflame and enlarge the heart...raise bad fats...destroy the delicate endocrine system...disease the liver..etc etc and all for temporary gains...I'll have 17 inch arms tomorrow and next year but steroid users can't make that claim...wait...they can for a while until it catches up with them...they are literally dropping like flies
It's so refreshing to hear Mike talking about the importance of carbs for your brain and neuromuscular system. For that reason alone, I will never go on a Keto or low carbohydrate diet again.
But mate u know that there is a huge difference between eating 70 g carbs on LCHF instead of 450 g on high carb? Your body needs carbs, but not tons of them. And ketone cells also exist not without a reason. Mike could eat everything and he would grown anyway as he was supplementing his vitamin S and T.
@@johndoe53831Your diet on gear is just as important as if you're not on gear in terms of looking good.
You couldn't look like Mike eating like garbage even on gear.
If you’re an athlete you know first hand how carbs make a HUGE difference for performance
He had the balls to tell it like it was and he got screwed over for it.
This is the way of life. Choose the right path. Honor and integrity. Be kind. All the best to you and yours.
You mean we don't need 250 grams of protein for a 180 lbs man? So glad you posted this.
Balanced diet from all 4 food groups…interesting concept! Not sure it’ll catch on in the internet influencer fad diet world…😂.
I’m reading a book about Keto diet and performance. The author talks about increasing fat oxidation etc…the book never mentions calories. Being simple and practical minded, I asked myself…wouldn’t you be increasing fat oxidation if you’re in a calorie deficit just eating a balanced diet? Of course there’s no discussion about that in the book as it wouldn’t sell more books!
Good call, Blake.
Say what you want about Mike Mentzer, he was ahead of his time and called out the supplement BS for what it was...and this was back in 81'. 40 years later people are still wasting their money on useless supplements.
This definitely has me questioning protein powder. I think pre-workout is still good. Depends which brand you're choosing, however.
@@daganperretti8617 I treat protein powder as food, don't think about it as supplement (hope you can catch my drift). I mean, I take creatine as a supplement and whenever I need like 20, 30, 40g of protein in my day that I can get from "regular food", I have whey protein as a meal or part of a meal. For me it is just convenient but people do think that taking this is paramount to muscle growth.
From brazil 2023. Thank you
Mike takes body science to an amazing level i congratulate you on your content his information is invaluable. Out of curiosity i wonder what his post training nutrition he would consume or if he saw any relevance as so many supplements are pushed .
Mike and Ray Mentzer were so on track with training and honesty, it's amazing how much candor these men had with their advice! Mike had such honesty about nutrition and plain hard training as well as the seriousness of rest and allowing your body to recover. And simplifying the diet and exposing the big business of supplements and misleading information just to sell you $omething. Rip Mentzer brothers you are missed🙏 but your advice lives on! ♥💪
Thanks for your post.
I laugh when people look at a box and say "oh my god, 18 grams of Carbohydrates, 14 grams of sugar...oh I cannot eat this." lol
Mike mentzer is the soul of old school bodybuilding. I love his approach to the sport and his mentality
The first person that introduced me to him was dorian yates (the shadow) also another solid sophisticated mentality. Bodybuilding has more to do with hour brain before your body thanks for the videos much love from 🇬🇧
“Kiss the right ass” 😂. Have me cracked up so hard. It must have been very interesting and amusing attending Mike’s seminars.
Haha! It was!
The whole 1g of protein per lb of bodyweight is a myth. I weight 175lbs and have ate anywhere between 90g-180g of protein and seen not one bit of difference, if anything my workouts are better with extra carbs. I think the studies must be funded by supplement companies
25% of your cal should come from protein, so on avg it would work out to be between .8 and 1g per lb of bodyweight anyway for most people.
This is my first time ever posting a comment. I just want to thank you John for posting these videos and all your hard work through out the years. My first 6 years of training were a waste of effort and time. Now after 28 years of training, I owe Mike so much. He has saved me sooo much Time and Money, and have always been able to get the most out of mine and others genetic potential.
You're very welcome. I'm glad that you are enjoying the videos.
Oh yeah yeah
Im sorry but Mentzer is way off here. For one sugar isnt glucose. Its fructose and glucose. And you can build muscle without eating any carbs.
Sugar is actually sucrose, but like fructose, it becomes glucose when it hits the bloodstream (as do most food stuffs). You can also build muscle eating a well-balanced diet that includes carbohydrates, which is what Mike advocated.
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE Fructose does not become glucose. Fructose is toxic to the liver and is stored as fat
@@woahblackbettybamalam Fructose is the sugar found in fruit and honey, which has been consumed by human beings for hundreds of thousands of years with no I’ll effect. If what you’re saying is true (that fruit sugar is toxic) than anyone and everyone, including the starving among us, would instantly become fat because they ate an apple. Besides, table sugar is not fructose as I indicated.
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE What you don’t realise is that fruit before artificial selection contained a small fraction of the fruit available today. And fruit had far more insoluble fiber which further suppresses sugars negative effects
@@woahblackbettybamalam Perhaps so, however if you gave an orange to a prisoner just coming out of Auschwitz, the effect would not be toxicity and obesity; it would be that he would live to see another day. The problem with demonizing sugar, and to make it seem like one is ingesting cyanide, is that there are too many exceptions to such a rule to make it categorical.
Let's remember that with all this "health" talk
Mike died young... So don't eat up too much of this bulshit
Thank you for these, John. Mike's legacy shall never die.
You're welcome, Leonardo. I'm glad you like them.
Mike was amazing with his knowledge and eloquence, a lot of so called gurus nowadays just take away from his wisdom and pretend to own it, Do your research and Thanks once again to John for sharing these True gems to keep Us mere pheasants informed, Kudos Brother and keep them coming!
Mentzer built his body with steroids...he was ignorant about sugar and carbs...here he is saying carbs are great....and fasting is bad....just ignorance....but wait you say...he built a world class body he must have known what he was speaking of...wrong...steroids guarantee results...I did a cycle once and didn't even work out...put three inches on my arms virtually overnight....
If there were complete and transparent bodybuilding tutelage, it would eliminate all of the BS. Just say, “professional bodybuilding is a four legged chair: diet, exercise, genetics, and the miracle of modern chemistry. If one leg is missing, the chair will not work.” Let’s learn the truth about what drugs are used for what purposes and in what amounts, how to take them, and when to take them.
60%carbohydrate
25%protein
15%fat
and balance diet follow all bodybuilders
i've started to cry. i met him when i was a kid. what a loss when he died.
I’ve been on carnivore/lion diet and have great results as far as weight loss. I just started lifting Mikes way and it’s hard to grasp eating carbs after watching all the stuff on UA-cam 😅
Same. Carnivore has helped me lose so much fat. It also helped me lose inflammation, Every time I eat carbs I gain weight so quickly and I don't even need to eat much of them for that to happen.
Mike was one of the best...ever. I miss him. A Bruce Lee of Bodybuilding. That simple. Simple, direct and efficient. His ideas were fought by the ESTABLISHMENT like traditional martial artist fought and critized Bruce's in combat arts because it didn't sell the "discourse" of the ones in power in the fitness industry. And for the record...Joe and Ben were my friends....but the truth is the truth.
Hi Jose. I agree with all of your points. Thanks for your post!
Not true, B vitamins are a needed component to derive energy from foods, that is why the people who went on candy weight loss experiments took vitamins as well. Can't really "just eat sugar" and lose weight without issues rising up.
And you get b vitamins from meat noob
@@zek9759 Not how it works lol. Seed oils aren't amazing because of Vitamin E either, you need Vitamin E to balance other components of it such as polyunsaturated fatty acids. Foods are packaged with vitamins for a reason. It might have been the case that you'd derive a lot of micronutrients from various food groups, but since at least the 1950s the quantity of vitamins has been on a decline.
Ohh please just shut up, don't talk nonsense if you have no knowledge
Wait,did u just say mike is wrong?
With today info on nutrition I believe Mike would have changed his opinion based on the science.
Bro not even 1% of athletes are keto stop
I like that. Mike's making a lot of sense here. I think we probably forgot too much in the madness.
Incredible man. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
John What you are doing is amazing, show honesty, the truth of man
Mike never left
Thanks very much
Thanks for the kind words -- and for your post.
MM was a true soul. N didnt know how to spread false hoods. His knowledge were far ahead of his time.
Godbless The Great Man Mike! 🙏🏻
now clear this confusion how to get the diet. Mike said 1.2 gram protein per 1Kg of body weight so for 50 it'd be 60grams protein and that's 25percent of the diet so to get 60% carbs will do the maths it's 144grams of carbs and 15% fat is 36gram the second way mike said here is know what's your maintenance calories intake is divide it 60%,25%,15% but then if 1500 calories is maintenance we'll have to check how many grams of protein and carbs this food contain and for both to know calories ×4 and for fat ×9 make account of it equal to 1500 calories with 60% carbs ,25% protein and 15% fat
but for example black chickpeas says it has 300+ caloriee per 100gm and have 20 protein which is 80 calories and carbs 63 which is 252 calories so we have to divide calories we got from what in the same food or do we need the first way???
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Awesome! Thanks for your post.
Now was Mike's rule/belief on 60% carbs hard and fast? I feel fine as far as performance goes eating 60%, but man ìs it tough to wolf down around 360 grams of carbs a day.
Did Mike ever discuss slightly adjusting percentages? For instance lowering carbs down to 50% and upping the fat slightly?
""And you too could become a Mr. Olympia... if you kiss the right asses." "Don't split hairs... unless you get off on it." Mike was funny, I like the humor sprinkled in
I'm glad I run in to his diet advice. I have been eating too much chicken breast and spent a lot with little gains... now I am cutting, I felt nothing negative has change and make my life way better when I follow this advice. Lowering my protein and meals is great
Low carb diets did cause memory impairment and loss of acuity for me. Made me aggressive. Everyone else claims it made them mentally sharp. Can someone's biology be SO different as to require the complete opposite of someone else? Say a carnivore diet?
this man is going to change my life.
5 months into the future,what have u learned ?
@@binchili how to diet. Efficient exercise. Healthy foods. How my body responds to it all.
You still follow? Do you train HIT?
Mike is making a lot of good sense here, like he has said don't rely on supplements, get your nutrition from eating healthy foods, that's why they call em "supplements" they shouldn't replace healthy eating, personally I haven't taken supplements since I was a teenager and I'm 58 now and have stayed in good shape without them, they couldn't pay me to take that crap, you don't know what they put in that shit!
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i wish Mike would have kept his head on straight and after he was done competing continued to train and eat right without drugs like Frank Zane and some others did... Sad how he lost everything including his life at such a young age imo...
Agreed.
I'm just now finding out about Mike mentzrr, what's his story?
@@Ziggy21142 he was a bb from 70's...many video about him on youtube..
Your body will make glucose from fat. I loved carbohydrate. I'd eat 80% of my calories from starch given the choice. And I seemed very healthy. However, my HBCA1 was 5.6. That's only 0.1 below what the Germans consider to be pre-diabetic. I ate six slices of wholemeal bread and eggs 40 minutes before a blood test and my blood sugar had spiked to 8.7. That's frightening. Okay, my fasting sugar had moved in thirty years (at 5.2), but I've been eating more fat. Just had 100g of mixed nuts to supplement my reduced rice intake. I put the steak mince 5% fat into my meal without draining. Those changes. Maybe 40% carbohydrate, 30% calories, 30% fat. My endurance hasn't suffered, by I stink of ammonia, which indicates muscle breakdown. I don't gain muscle as easily, so maybe the insulin spikes were useful for that. But you want to avoid blood sugar problems.
Take Berberine just before eating. It regulates blood sugar.
So how come the carnivore diet works so well? People. Have been on it for years no problem. Building muscle.
Because mentzer is talking nonsense. Man thinks sugar and glucose are the same
@@woahblackbettybamalam but his one set to training is correct right?
Mike was absolutely 100% correct.
Thanks for your post.
Thank you very much for the Video John Little! - The Information on these Videos are gold!
No worries, Angel! Glad you are enjoying them!
I'm not anti-carb but I tend to stay on the lower end (
It takes time to get used to it. This means your body has adapted to a ketosis like diet.
I'm the same . My arthritis flares up if I eat more than about 100g carbs.. been mostly zero carb for two years
@@wearetheremnants1615 I think ypu should both give low-sprayed organic foods a try. Been experimenting a lot myself lately and one type of oats can give me issues while another higher quality is just fine. Same with most vegetables and fruits.
@@GhettoPCbuilds Any content you can recommend on this subject? Much appreciated.
@@aendraes5135 intermittent fasting
60% carbohydrates 😢😢😢
I respect Mike’s opinion-he knew this doesn’t work if you let your calories get out of control. However, I think this was an aspect he was a bit too dogmatic about, but was probably harder to research a few decades ago, as well.
Are you a keto warrior?
I will say, research in recent years has suggested that sugar isn't nearly as important as Mike believed
Thank you and GOD BLESS.
What about ketones?
I'm insulin resistant and I feel really sluggish on high carbs, I feel the best on sth like that: ~30% carb (from
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Has mikes work ever been disproven? .. all you hear these days is .. high protein.. you'd think today we would have more accurate info than the 80s or 90s.. surely?
15% fats is wayyy too low to maintain hormone production. But it was the 70’s so… meh 🤷🏾♂️
One thing to say about low carb : I tried keto (very low carb) and indeed in the beginning you feel bad, but after that it improves and i felt better than ever. However : hit training will be virtually impossible with keto diet, although I never gave it a chance.
You have to be in keto for probably multiple months in succession. After that you can add intensity.
So my point is: he is not completely right about the negative aspects of low carb : they are temporarily and with good use, it can improve your life, but not necessarily the ability to train your maximum intensity potential.
Jerry Brainum did a 5/2 split, that is, do KETO Mon - Fri, then eat carbs on the weekend, so come your Monday workout you can train hard, and also reap the benefits of low carb throughout the week. After 3 years of straight KETO, I'm going to try it.
@@Magneticlaw that will work, although... It's not real keto😉
I now do healthy carbs (organic, brown rice, patatoes, sweet patatoes, 100%sourdough bread and ofc vegetables.
But I decided to stop my HIT regime. I felt too tired during the week although I still made progress about every workout. But its only a hobby I don't want to be tired all the time 😋 now I mixed it up in a 4 week split, with every 4th week being hit. The other 3 are more volume based. Done that before and both have benefits, now it improves each other.
carbs are bad and i dont agree that all carbs are same thing, ok they end up as glucose, but its not all about that
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How can I find out the exact well-balanced diet that I need and what should I contain/portions?
I'm pretty sure Mike lists the percentages, you should watch "Determining Your Maintenance Need of Calories" and then make the appropriate calculations based on the percentages of the number you come up with.
RIP Mike and Ray
I think he went too deep on carbohydrates being all the same . A high sugar cookie which is a carb will spike blood sugar way higher than a low glycemic index food like a sweet potatoe
What he’s saying is once they get broke down in the body they are all the same , identical , the spike happens with more refined carbs ,
As long as your body is in deprivation it will just suck them all up ( after workout )
I love these videos John, I would've given anything to have had the opportunity to meet Mike. Thank you for posting these!!! I'm a huge fan of Bruce Lee too, I have all of your books on him from years ago!!!
You're welcome. Thanks for the kind words.
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Carbohydrates have zero necessity’s for life. Fats and proteins are necessary, and water. I cant agree that our diet needs to be full of inflammatory carbs. Other than fruits, modern man had no regular access to sugar until recent history “past 500 years or so”. Doesn’t make much sense to me.
Appreciate the video and the thinking process it employs
We've been making bread for more than three thousand years
Mike was a genius about bodybuilding, but he was all washed up on diet. Carbohydrates seem necessary, because your body is used to them. Eliminate them and you respond negatively for awhile, until your body adapts to burning fat. After that, your body and brain run very efficiently on fats. You’ll feel like Superman.
Don’t follow this hacks advice
Great stuff John ! Mike is missed more than ever
Glad you like it -- and I agree.
This is for all you keto fanatics
i wish i had the belief i have now about training decades ago... we all were lied to in those mags we loved to read... all the money i spent on protein powers etc ...geeezzz insane
No kidding. I did it too.
I must be the only one who experiments...I done 290 grams of protein a day and forty grams or less per day..result?.greater...much much greater gains on forty grams a day...our protein needs are minimum....but get this...if I start selling protein powder I'm gonna tell you that you need hundreds of grams per day...only creatine and steroids can take you past your genetic limit
@@richardlawson6787how creatine?
Slowly learning what I need to start and improve myself, if only I can find the trainer that I can actually afford that'll push me to my limits.
BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEE NSIMPLE AND COMPLEX CARBS SORRY! And not one word about the important fiber!
Mentzer was ignorant about carbs...doubtful he could have ever won a natural competition with his lack of knowledge so bring in steroids...anybody will make big gains on steroids...you don't even need to work out to get great results...steroids initiate protein synthesis in and of themselves so even a dummy looks like a body building expert
All these fancy diets has a place because people don't want to train harder and lost patience.
Milk sleep and egg yolks..king of my program !
This is such old info it is quite outdated.
The proportions relied on from 'experts' are as unreliable as conventional training. Too much is as bad as too little, and 60% carbohydrate is way more than is good for the body, just as ketosis is an indication of a carbohydrate deficit.
A bodybuilder's body typically uses 12% protein, 25% carbohydrate, 63% fat (ingested and bodyfat).
Bodyfat is 57% monounsaturated, 40% saturated, 3% essential fatty acids, and this is the best balance to eat; hence the healthy Mediterranean diet.
How can Mike say carbs are more important than protein, protein can turn into carbs but carbs can't be used to build muscle, you need to put protein first because carbs are everywhere, protein is often the most lacked in most Americans diet, there getting to much carbs and fats and not much protein
Carbohydrates are the body’s preferred source of fuel. This is why they refer to by nutritional scientists as “protein sparing,” as they literally spare protein from being used as an energy source, so that it can be used for its primary function, which is growth and repair. Also, proteins cannot be converted into carbohydrates, as they are two separate macronutrients. Both protein and carbohydrates, and fats, for that matter, can, and are converted into glucose, which is the body’s energy currency.
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE carbs are not the body preferred source of fuel! Per gram of carbs that 4 calories burnt per gram of protein that's 4 but per gram of fat its like 9, the body naturally wants to burn fat plus many of your organs and hormones need fat! ..... Smh
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE you do know the body can take extra protein can convert them into energy aka carbs right?? This has been known since like the 1940s and 1950s Vince Gironda made many diet using high protein diets and high fat diets and proved all of what I'm talking about
@@19floyed I do know that. However, it doesn’t alter the fact that carbohydrates are still the body’s preferred source of fuel. It can also take fats and convert them into energy substrates, but that doesn’t make fats the body’s preferred source of fuel. Protein’s primary purpose is growth and repair. To utilize protein for energy substrate, the body has to take alanine, an amino acid, send it to the liver and convert it to glucose (gluconeogenesis). This is a lengthy process, which is why carbohydrates are the body’s preferred source of energy. Indeed, that is the role that carbohydrates play in nutrition for the body.
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE it's hard process only because the average American today is addicted to carbohydrates but fifty years ago they did have this problem, dairy, eggs, steak, cheese and chicken where in almost every household and amino acids is in protein, this is why natural bodybuilders use to eat tons of protein and fats!!!! Like in eggs and CLA which tells the body to burn fat! Carbs make you fat because if you eat over like 12 grams it spikes your insulin and tells your body not to burn fat but to store fat! SSSSOOOO ... how in the world is carbs the bodies primarily fuel? We are doin the opposite of what the old-school natural bodybuilders did and even our ancient ancestors did, they had a high protein, high- medium, fat low carb diets these are facts
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Great post thanks
You’re welcome. Thanks for your post.
Mike Mentzer vs. Keto
Thank you John
You're welcome, Chris!
Absolut bs
No way would i think my nutritional knowledge would be even a fraction of Mikes, but given what we know today, is that not a bit high in carbs and low in fats, respectfully.....
Hi Augustus. It may well be, but then nutritional fashion seems to change over the decades with certain macronutrients emphasized over others depending upon the decade (and method) of the research. I don't see that life expectancy (mortality rates) have risen since the late 1970s (when Mike was reading and sharing what he read of nutritional science), but we have learned that certain types of people have a tendency to overdo (over-consume) certain types of food and (particularly if they are not physically active), this can lead to problems. Most problems tend to stem from over-consumption, generally, rather than from one type of nutrient. A well-balanced diet seems (even now) to be a reasonable proposition. However, my videos are simply presentations of what Mike believed and acted upon; if someone else prefers eating no carbs or low carbs or high fat or high protein, that's fine by me.
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE Thank you so much for the reply....
@@augustuscaesar5997 No worries, 👍
Is Dianabol part of a balanced diet?
Wow. A hair-trigger wit.
I want to know how many calories and grams of protein Mike consumed.
3000 calories a day, 25% of that being protein. ( He's said that here and other of john's videos) as his daily guideline.. :)
2000 or less on a cut
His thing about carbs and sugar is just wrong.
Can't believe we lost this this man too .soon
He chain smoked …. Abused steroids and meth dude
Dead at 50 from heart disease….. hmmmmmmm
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Well he used steroids. Doesn’t take away from the fact that he knew what he was talking about
Lost any credibility when he says he’s natural, like Michael Jackson saying he never had plastic surgery
Mike never claimed he was natural or never took steroids. Indeed, he was one of the first bodybuilders who admitted that all bodybuilders, himself included, use steroids. His credibility remains intact on that matter. You may want to watch the videos before you critique them.
John Little sorry I was referring to his brother, he states that he’s bigger than most bodybuilders who were on steroids even though he wasn’t…… weighing 276lbs….. ripped…..
@@jetlee2790 Ray spoke that statement in 1990, when he was in fact off steroids and therefore natural. He also says in the interview that he did take steroids for a number of years. Given that Ray was bigger and stronger than most bodybuilders (he didn’t say “all” bodybuilders), I don’t see how his credibility is lacking either. Thank you for the clarification though.
John Little come on now little fella, you can’t be on steroids for years then have a few weeks off and claim to be natural, that’s pathetic pal, I know your very keen on the Mentzers but let’s not be silly
@@jetlee2790 I’m guessing you have some evidence that he had only been off steroids for a few weeks when I recorded this interview with him?
I disagree with that macro split. 25% protein is far too low for when I’m cutting. Say that I can cut at 2000-2250 calories; that means that 500-560 calories for protein. Each gram of protein is 4 calories which means I’d be getting only about 125-140g of protein. If I weigh about 200 pounds then that means I’m only getting aboht 0.6-0.7g of protein per pound of body weight which is undershooting it by a margin. The least I’d go is 0.8g of protein per pound of body weight. Optimally you want to be within 0.8g-1.2g of protein per pound of bodyweight.
Again why do you think you need 1.2 grams of protein per bodyweight?
Like it's so foolish.
@@markoschannel5841 my two reasons are: People that have good growth and great physiques while cutting advocate for that. My second reason is that I overshoot my protein just incase I come short with counting, consumption, etc...
@@zaidomari5002 thinks logically, don't do what people advocate do your research.
Brainwashed wanting 1.2 gms
Your 200 pounds are not all muscle. So actually that would be enough protein.
Who the hell would give this a thumbs down? It is extremely rare to hear a bodybuilder with even a remote understanding of biochemistry and metabolism. Mr. Mentzer was the portal from bodybuilding to exercise science. It’s my opinion that the true tragedy was that this man did not pursue a PhD and become a university prof with a specialty in muscle hypertrophy and publish to the science community to better understand the stimulus requirements for muscular growth.
Hi Science For All, good points. Thanks for your post.
He was a hack dude
60% carbs is not a well balanced diet...lol
crazy to think how wildly wrong mike was at that time in regards to carbs.. we've learned a lot.
I think his physique and accomplishments say more than what you’ve “read”
@@gerRule why are you acting like "reading" the latest data from people like Andy Galpin doesnt make me more informed than someone whos trying to tell me that fucking carbohydrates are the most important macro
Carbs are the most important. Let’s see your physique gamer.
@@josephpeters7076 you have zero idea what youre talking about. The fact that you think carbs are more important than protein and fat is hilarious. The fact you think knowledge resides within muscles, and the fact you assume im an out of shape "gamer" is hilarious. Im sure the national library of medicine is wrong while youre actually right, defending a body builder whos telling you outdated information regarding nutrition of all things, youre an idiot. And i bet you would like to see my physique you weirdo. Carbs are not even required by the body, let alone the most important. Try learning human biology
He wasn’t wrong at all.. What evidence have you ran across to substantiate your wildly inaccurate, libelous claim?
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