BEST Mid-Size Truck? || Nissan Frontier
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- Опубліковано 27 чер 2024
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One of the newest revamps to the mid-size truck game is the Frontier. Today, we're taking a look at how this can perform on lighter trails and obstacles and if this is a better option than the Tacoma and Colorado. Let us know what your thoughts are about this truck in the comments.
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After 20 years and 5 Tacomas, I took a chance a year ago and traded my 2020 AG TRD Pro for a 22 Pro-4x. Currently have 26k miles, a full ADO Bilstein lift w UCAs, Wildpeaks, a Westin bumper w winch and a ton more little mods and add-ons. Handles like a beast off road and is a far better driving experience on road. Don't miss the Taco at all...
You can do royal oil purple increase hp and torque and protect the engine parts better remember is VQ38dd a beast.
Josh can you send your info I just ordered a pro 4x 2023 and am new to to this would love some tips on upgrades.
Why did you have 5 tacomas in 20 years?
@@RaspyBootLegger probably because the frames rusted out
I bought a 2017 tacoma and traded for a 22 pro4x. The taco was a great truck,but rode like a two horse wagon. The pro4x is a really nice truck,love it.
Frontier= Crawl ratio 60:1 fully boxed titan frame (ability to titan swap suspension/engine) , Dana 44 locking rear (pro4x) , dana front diff, spicer transfer case, powerful vq motor, rear disc brakes, bullet proof and made in USA. Tacoma= 33:1 crawl ratio, C channel frame (on going corrosion frame recalls) , rear drum brakes, now made in Mexico, reliability declining and Toyota tax.
Have had both. Currently a taco.
I think the nissan is better constructed. Much better seating. More comfortable. Better cabin. Better power.
That said.
Tacoma is better off road, probably last longer.
As a daily driver or everyday I'd definitely go Nissan. As a play toy and long term I'd go tacoma. The reasons people dont like the motor and tranny in the tacoma is partly why it'll last longer. It basically drives at 1100 rpm. It never even works. Torque doesn't pull until 4000 rpm. The truck is basically just never under stress. It's overbuilt on top of it. It has to hit 4k before its even in the torque to stress. It never does in normal driving. It'll pretty much idle along lowest rpm possible. The frame is great off road it has give. Less likely to get a wheel off the ground especially with after market or off road suspension. Nissan definitely more power and better driving though
Reliability declining he says 😂😂😂
@@itsallminor6133thanks for the spill. I just realized how beautifully engineered the Tacoma is.
I agree. This generation Frontier looks visually appealing. I love the interior design as well. Great job Nissan 👏🏽. Yours truly, a Chevy Colorado owner
Nissan may have a small aftermarket but they have everything you need. Titan swap. Hefty Fabworks already has a full line of armor for the new gen. I bought my Xterra when shopping for 4Runners. The cost difference was insane. Just the amount saved covered my titan swap and some armor. The Xterra has more power, locker, and now has ~10 inches of travel.
I used to own a 2010 Nissan Xterra Pro4X, and that thing was a tank! It would go anywhere and on any terrain. Miss it and wish I never traded it. Bought it brand new back in 2010, and traded it in on a 2015 Armada.
Was looking at some but they cost near what a GX460 cost. I much rather be inside a Lexus
Armada sucks tho
How’s the Armada vs the Xterra?
This guys story is identical to mine. I had pretty well decided on a Tacoma, frontier wasn’t on my radar because I really didn’t like the way the old body looked. I randomly saw an ad and loved the redesigned body.
Same here
Nisstec for all your nissan stuff is a great place for different lift options
I just signed my bill of sale to the same truck today, white Pro 4x. I was looking for Tacomas as well, but the seating position was the main reason for me, the Frontier has way more comfortable seating and very similar overall options or more.
I'm loving my 22 Frontier so far, had it a month or so.. I'm glad to see more videos like this.
Appreciate the support. If you ever need any help finding anything for your Frontier just shoot us a message or email and we can help find some options for you!
Alright Nissan, give us an Xterra based off this truck please.
The truck looks great! I have a 2016 Frontier Pro-4X and I love it. I've got it in the mountains here in CA all the time and it does great
I've owned 2 frontiers. My current is a 2019. It's a great truck.
I have a ‘95 Nissan D21 in my garage next to my 09 Tacoma TRD, and the Nissan creams the Tacoma off-road - stay with me - It has a lower crawl ratio, ring and pinion closer to a Dana 44 from factory, than the Tacoma’s 8” gears, fully boxed chassis, and most of the guts are protected by the chassis. Nissan makes the most overlooked trucks on the market. My ‘95 Nissan also has more ground clearance stock than my 09 Taco does with a 2.5” lift. Guessing Nissan has kept up the good work, and kept quiet about it… great to see a video about the Frontier. I’d just about trade the Taco for one if only Nissan made a manual. Oh, and if Nissan dumped the bad partnerships… Bring it back Nissan!!!
Your 95 is a smaller truck than your 09 tacoma. The 90s trucks always looked higher off the ground. Compare it to a 09 frontier and you will find the same thing
Thanks for covering the frontier they need more recognition. I rock a 2nd gen less tech less failure points. Takes a bit for searching to get after market parts but they're out there. The more we support nissan the more they make us parts.
I absolutely love mine. I put in a Nisstec 4" lift with 285 BFG AT2s. These trucks definitely need a little lift, and they are good to go. I've been a Nissan owner my whole life. Hardbody, 1st Gen, 14' Titan and now 22 P4X. Always reliable trucks and I feel haven't gotten a look until this came out. Should make a lot of folks happy.
Happy to hear you enjoyed the video! We definitely want to see some pictures of your Nissan in our gallery sometime. www.trailbuiltoffroad.com/add-wheel-offset
Great video guys thanks for sharing.!! 💪 Congrats..!!
Thanks for watching! We appreciate the support!
The Nissan frontier has definitely gained respect with the new model
Right! Definitely couldn't agree more!
Your videos man have no business to be this high quality and yet your videos are high quality. Hahah I would love to have your work etiquettes too.
Glad you like them!
Frontiers are underrated as is the Titan Pro4x s.
People don't give these Nissans enough credit.
Brand loyalty to the big 3 is stupid.
Well, that’s one opinion … have owned Ford & Chevy … both being durable, so I keep buying American.
American ? Lol most likely your truck is made in Mexico if it's a GM and Ford keeps sending is jobs away from .... Americans.
Those "foreign" companies employ millions of real Americans not corporate America that doesn't give a rtz azz about the people of America.
Just picked up my 2022 Pro-4X in Tactical Green with a RC 2.5” lift kit and suspension, 33” K02’s on Fuel Covert wheels. It’s a daily head turner and I love it.
Sounds like a sick setup! You should upload some photos to our gallery sometime! www.trailbuiltoffroad.com/add-wheel-offset
I'm happy to see Nissan finally gave the USA a new model. Europe, Australia (and pretty much everywhere else) have had the newer D23 Nissan Navara for the last 5-6 years with these same great features like the diff-lock and 360 degree cameras. It's a much more capable platform than the old D40. Hope this means we'll see more Frontier content
Locking diff has been a NISMO/P4X option from the start.
The update gave visual refresh, infotainment upgrade (with the cameras) from the Titan, and a powertrain boost. Same frame, same suspension. The D40 already was capable.
@@f1y7rap locking diff is a standard option on most models worldwide, not just on the Pro4x.
These frontiers are really nice. Personally I don’t care for them but they are nice looking trucks. Will serve him well for years to come and you have done some tasteful mods.
Agreed! I really do enjoy seeing this truck roll in everyday. 👌
I love my PRO-4X. It is a great platform and the engine is very good. The ride quality is best in segment. I traded in my 2020 Ranger for the Nissan. I love the Gun Metallic too. I leased mine so it will remain stock. I plan on purchasing my next truck.
I put the rough country coil overs on my 2022, with the upgraded shocks from RC in the back too when I did the lift… noticed a smoother ride right off the bat. Love the truck!
Gotta love when you can really feel those coil overs helping with the ride quality! Do you have any wheels and tires yet?
LOL! The loud dirtbikes might’ve been a group of us that were up there about the time this was filmed. We had one guy that struggled with one of the rock face climbs. 😂
Really like the new frontier. Tried to buy one but refuse to pay the ridiculous dealer mark up.
I just picked one up for a little under MSRP. You just have to know how to new car shop because all it took was me hitting up two different dealerships.
Yup tried to get a pro-4x and dealer wanted 52k LOL so I ended up finding a 2022 trd OR 4x4 for msrp
@@swampssa Bro you're not kidding anybody, go back in mom's basement.
@@uce.4lo a fully loaded pro4 x is basically around $48K so after taxes etc you’re in the $50k range that doesn’t sound bad to me.
I found a beige 2023 Nissan Pro-4X near here, started dealing from $51,000. The dealer wouldn't go below $45,000, so I left for awhile. Went down the road and picked up a 2023 GMC Sierra 4x4 "work truck" for $37,000! Not too many bells & whistles, but much more truck, interior room for the family, somewhat better mileage (!), and superior ride. I love the Pro 4x look, but with Presidents Day incentives, and $5000 loyalty discount, I walked out paying $37,000, with no dickering.
I chose a second generation Nissan Frontier Pro-4X over all the newer trucks including the Tacoma for a reason: a long and proven track record. In every comparison I watched online and article I read the Frontier did everything the competition did for less money and has been around forever so all the problems were fixed long ago. It's a bullet proof platform and parts are cheap if anything does go wrong. The aftermarket for it is weak admittedly compared to other trucks but there is enough to get it where you want it to be. Plenty of performance and suspension modifications available if you know where to look. I'm hoping with the new generation the Frontiers get more attention and aftermarket support.
You took the words out of my mouth. My 08 Nissmo has been nothing but bullet proof for the past 14yrs for me with no major issues.
Frontier is almost as dependable as taco's but i also like that everything isn't electronic and you have to go through 5 screens to access. they are simple and i like that
Damn that looks good!
I like how they put up better than tacomas because they know all the tacoma owners are gonna click on it and comment making their channel more popular. 😅😅😅😅
@NISSAN- PLEASE MAKE AN XTERRA OFF THIS PLATFORM WITH MANUAL TRANSMISSION!!
Very nice truck. I would buy one if I needed a midsized truck.
just got a 2023 pro 4x in boulder gray pearl. its sweet.
My grandpa has had his Nissan frontier SV for a year now and he loves it
I am not a real off roader. Just some hunting stuff here and there. but I love my 2022 Frontier. It's a great truck!
I have one and I like it
needs a bigger tent on the roof for sure
I own a 2005 frontier w/Titan swapped suspension and I can’t stress how underrated these trucks are. Driven to and from BC, Canada > SoCal. Thing has been on many trails… at 220k miles, I can’t ever see me parting ways with it. So VK swap is likely in its future as well as many more miles.
Now that is a tested product!! I am super impressed, what part of the that drive was the worst part?
@@TrailBuilt it’s always going through southern Oregon into California, Especially during winter. Mountainous roads, steep grades, and black Ice. Engaged 4hi a couple times just to get traction. Honestly, thing has been a trooper… especially with all the situations I’ve put it through.
I'm on the same boat. Was Subaru wrx guy looking into trucks now and obviously the Tacoma was my first choice. But now seeing the frontier in person, it looks better Imo
Basically went through the same thought process as Zack, wheeled F150 for years but wanted something smaller for tighter trails. I saw P4X and was sold, better value than Tacoma, Gladiator with nice modern interior. I did the same lift, added 285 70 17 Toyo AT3. Love it. Can't wait for accessories to open up for this truck. Great video thanks Josh and Zack for sharing.
did you replace the UCA so you don't get coil/bucket contact with that lift?
The new model Nissan Frontiers are way better looking than the older models in my opinion. So much potential and hope to see this truck in future videos. Very entertaining video guys! You got a beast of a truck, Zach! Enjoy the trails!!!
They look like a tundra and silverado had a baby. Definitely look good
@@Evildaddy911 and now I can’t see the frontier the same again. Thanks a lot Matt! Haha You’re right though, the body styles of both trucks can be seen in this frontier. I honestly think it’s a good move by Nissan by designing the truck with those similarities. 👍🏽
I'm still driving a 4x4 hardbody. How much to replace one of your headlights???
Dobinson’s makes a bunch of suspension components. They have two different 2-3” suspension kits and adjustable billet upper control arms. Granted the kits are much more expensive.
I have a 2022 Pro four X, black.. I enjoy your video.. I do have a right tail light that I ordered because I cracked mine. Insurance paid for the damage so I have an extra tail light for a Pro4X right one if you know anybody when is it assault for half the cost 275.00 brand new ..off-roading stuff happens..
He said the same thing happened to me i wasn’t looking at truck but almost went Toyota then boom Toyota screwed me and i saw an add for this and checked it out. Was sold it such a better package than the Tacoma. It’s more features and built U.S.A. baby.
For Better suspension options check out All dogs off-road coop . Function and form 👍
The new Frontier is a perfect contender for the Tacoma. I think that in a couple of years a lot of Tacoma owners are going to switch to the Frontier.
Until it's has proven its reliability, it's just another pretender to the throne.
@@simper-fortis Nissan Hardbody, first and second gen Frontier showed their reliability. Nissan has proven, since the 80s, that they can compete with Toyota when it comes to mid size trucks. Nissan financial history is what has tarnished their name.
All dogs off-road and z1 off road are most common spots that make lifts. They both have projects to look at what u can get outta ur truck. Also nisstec and radflo make good lifts for the truck.
With the sunroof open siiiick
I just purchased a used 2023 Nissan frontier midnight edition with 6,600 miles love the new body style has a hefty look eventually I’ll have the RC 2 inch lift put on
How do you like it after having it for 2 months?
Having owned 2 previous gen Frontiers, I can say you definitely missed out. It was a great little truck and the 2022 improved almost everything it needed to from what I can tell, although no vehicle is perfect. I also owned a 2020 Tacome TRD Offroad and I hated it. Weak engine, gear hunting transmission, extreme chassis vibrations, etc. I absolutely hated the way it felt behind the wheel. The Tacoma is definitely overrated and over-hyped by the fanboy crowd, it does not deserve the praise it gets. I plan on purchasing my 3rd Frontier pretty soon when prices come down to a reasonable level, probably a 2023 Pro4x.
careful, there's some extensive rusting problems on these "new" Frontiers.
@@bouncer812 Quit spamming!
@@dlg5485 shutup.
@@bouncer812 Take your own advice clown
@@dlg5485 you’re a bot paid for by Nissan lol.
I know Zach, he's an alright guy!
Absolutely man!
I’ve been watching a ton of reviews on this truck and I like it better then the Tacoma and honestly never thought I’d say that, the new Tacoma dropping the V6 also was a definite no for me, I love a naturally aspirated V6 much more reliable.
Nice truck. I like the Frontiers, was too small for what I currently need, so went with the Titan.
Yes, I had to do the same. 2021 Titan Pro-4X. If I could just afford to have both trucks...
Frontier is a good truck
awesome
Great presentation. Can you add the tonneau cover along with the sport bar?
Appreciate the support! I do not believe so.
There are two reasons I’d get a Frontier over a Tacoma; the Anti-Gravity seats and the “cement” gray. Hope Nissan fixed their transmission issues.
That gray finish is so clean! 👌
A brand new 9 speed tranny that is fantastic. I love my PRO-4X. It is very capable of doing the job.
what wheel and tire size or specs on that frontier? so clean
Do some research on the ole Google and you’ll quickly find very reputable companies pushing out great non spacer purpose built lifts. All dogs Offroad is one in particular that comes to mind.
Here in Mexico that truck is 999k and Tacoma is cheaper, it goes from 715k up to 855k for the special edition talking in Mexican Pesos.
I think it’s a home run ! Looks great ! His looks rad! The Tacoma has a terrible seating position! How is this one?
How did you guys fit the 2.5" levelling kit to this? Rough Country says it won't work due to the 1" factory lift.
I noticed the rough country website that the kit you used said that it doesn’t fit the pro-4x, did you guys have to modify the kit at all or does it actually fit fine?
Nice truck!
Hopefully it’s transmission is reliable and it could be a good contender against Tacoma.
Nissan trucks have always had reliable transmissions you're thinking of the early cvts found in some of the Nissan cars. This flat out beats the the Tacoma in all areas down to the frame
Tacoma transmissions are complete garbage. 🤦🏻
The transmission has always been reliable both 6 speed manual and 5 speed automatic.
Does that same 2.5" lift also work on the 2023 Pro4X?
I wonder if you can get an overland rack to go over the bed to hold your spare tire and max tracks. I'm thinking of this over the new 2024 tacoma.
We need nissan frontier R with nissan gtr nismo engine and nismo aftermarket parts with 5 inches lift kit and 325/R20 tyres
I'm on the market for 2025. I love the Frontier styling but I'm wondering if they are getting a refresh then? And I'm extremely curious to see what Nissan does for the engine with all the turbo 4's out there
I went with Bilstein 5100 height ajustable shocks, front and rear. Running 285/70r17
hows the ride with those and what level did you put the springs at?
@@jasenswick7725 2 inch in the front, 1 in the back
@@patrickfort123456789 ride is good??
Does it rub
@@albertmcfry6322 a bit of rubbing depending on the angle, but it's minimal. I also added Rough Country 1.5inch shakel lift in the back
Quick question. You said you have his lift on your website but when I checked it says that it will not fit the pro-4x??? Just want to make sure I'm not about to waste $200 before I order the RC 2.5" lift.
Z1 motorsports offroad is currently making a supercharger for this.
What bedrack is on the frontier ?
On RC website and it says the red spacer kit doesn't fit the Pro 4x?
These are gonna sell out crazy now that Toyota pipeline is so majorly screwed for years. This looks great for sure
I had a 99 pathfinder manual 4wd lots of issues clogged egr , evap charcoal canister , vent solenoid l, death wobble caused by latteral rod bushing failure, cracked exhaust manifold, premature waterpump gasket leaking, rear differential leak etc…. All occurred less than 100K mileage.
You say the same for any vehicle manufacture, what is the point?
Sounds like operator error like you didn’t take care of it
It cracks me up how trucks keep getting taller, but the ground clearance stays the same 🙄 😂
More headroom. Your not hitting your head
I’ll pick my FORD 2019 Ranger over this and the played out taco any day! Merica!! 🇺🇸
I have the same truck in Boulder Grey and love ❤️ it. Where can I get the lift kit and tires you have on your truck. It looks beefy!!!
He got the setup from our website! If you want shoot us an email and we can help get that going for you!
Thanks
It better complete, as its been 6 years since the 3rd gen Tacoma released. Toyota is already releasing a newly redesigned Tacoma in 2024. Nissan basically took a lot of the Tacomas design and put their spin on it. The new 2024 Tacoma is going to be killer with the appeal of the new Tundra. I absolutely love the Tacoma and I feel the new Frontier is killer looking as well, but I'd take the Tacoma all day for every category. You really can't go wrong with one. . . I rather Nissan light some fire under Toyota to get them to take more risk.
I bought a Ranger Tremor instead of a Tacoma before the Pro 4X was out. And it was an easy decision. If this truck had been out, it would have been a much tougher decision. I’d like to see a side by side comparison of the two.
Probably super easy. The rangers platform is from like 2013 and It was super outdated since it got to the US. The engine is the only decent thing in it. For me it was the tacoma because I off road and they don't offer any decent lifts for the frontier, they only have one but it's way overpriced and not even that good. I personally think all trucks come with absolute garbage suspension except for the trd pro and the raptor. I'm actually excited for the new trucks to come out. The new colorado and ranger look super nice. 👌
@@alexgarcia3900 my Tremor has great suspension. I’d put it up against a Tacoma any day. But I’m ready for the Ranger Raptor.
@@mattlee4807 the tacoma has crap suspension but the trd pro has comparable suspension ? I'm not sure what suspension exactly comes with the Ford. I'd have to do some research on the suspension internals. Trd pro has top of the line fox suspension, even the aftermarket fox shocks aren't as advanced
@@mattlee4807 ok so the tremor has fox 2.0 progressive fox shocks with resi in the back
Tacoma has fox 2.5 all around with internal bypass and rear resi . So the trd pro suspension is actually far superior over the tremor by a lot! Like not even comparable to the fox 2.0. The tremor actually has fox 2.0 in front that are the cheapest shocks fox offers and the rear are only slightly better than the cheapest, but still way better suspension over the stock ranger garbage. However I personally wouldn't recomend anything bellow 2.5 in the front for any truck if you do any higher speed dirt roads/washboard.
@@alexgarcia3900 the Tremor has Fox 2.0 all around with piggyback reservoirs in the rear.
Has anyone had any issues (mechanical or technical ) with their new 2022 or 23 frontier Pro ‘s? Hesitant to buy one. I also have a 2020 Tacoma TRD Sport Tan color, but yes ride quality sucks, lacks some features and transmission is underwhelming
I've been told that these new Frontiers are way more comfortable to sit in compared to the Tacoma's. Is that true?
The rear seats of both trucks are tight but the front seating of the Frontier feels roomier. I went truck shopping with wife and we both loved the space and feel of the front seats. Only reason I didn’t purchase it was the dealer markup, they wouldn’t budge and neither would I so we walked away.
My pro x is good, but less than a yr old with 6500mi, recall for parking pawl already in and my back up camera went out. Screen does not change when put in Rev. Turns out the video controller card is bad, new one needs to be ordered. Just an FYI
Do these frontiers have any issues with carbon build up since engine direct injection only?
I would maybe check some real life testaments from people online. Looking at some right now and it does appear they do have some issues but it can be resolved fairly easy!
The parts are so hard to find when it comes to Nissan at least where I live... ppl won't buy Nissan for that reason no matter how good they are.
What size tire was Zack running on his Frontier ??
He said he is running 275/65R18
I hear antibiotics help greatly if you get an STI.
@CL McCartney I think an enema helps better with that one 🤣😂
Now that the new ZR2/AT4X are out. Its them and the Gladiator standing alone for off roading.
Dude I’m zack right now. I want to sell me 86 and buy a taco. But not 100% sure on the taco yet
Not to mention, the same truck as it's Toyota counterpart for 15k less nowadays
Are they more expensive ? are they budget or nah
Varies on the package you go for! I would say they are a bit more pricey kinda in the range of $30K to $45K
how dare you....... my 2006 frontier king cab 4x4 sv is beautiful.... and indestructible
"Oooo! A new Frontier! I'm going to have to check this out!" ... I dig those things. .... BUT! I'm only a couple seconds in and you went and did it... "You People!" Always say it, and i find REALLY freaking irritating... "go off roading, which maybe not technically off roading." ... WTF!! The footage when you said that looked pretty off road to me! Not everyone is a Rock Crawler. Rock Crawling is not off roading. It's in a league all its own. Us off roaders are like Rock and Rollers ... Rock Crawling is Metal! I hate how Rock Crawling has taken over, and nothing else is off road. Some of us are content exploring and coming across things such as this point in the video (0:37). Not everyone is trailering their rig, or going straight for a Rock garden. Yup, super cool. But it's not off roading ... it's Rock Crawling. I always read it on forums when someone shows anything other then Rock crawling, yahoo's always saying, "THATS NOT OFF ROADING!!" Yes it is! Okay, driving down a gravel driveway, or going up a "trail" to take pics of your truck ... that is somehow Shiney in the photos, if you were actually wheeling ... then go home after. Okay, I agree with you there.... okay, rant over. I'll go watch, maybe you'll redeem yourself.
before you buy a taco test drive a frontier, you wont want to drive the taco after driving the frontier
Nissan failed to improve the defect that was in their previous Frontier, the turning radius. It was really the only problem as far as I'm concerned.
its been improved by 17%
Titan swap!
If they would of had the manual transmission on the Nissan Frontier, I would have went for it. But I got the Yota instead .
Now A Day's Toyota Has Became Greedy And Putting Hefty Price Tags On Their Vehicles Saying Reliability Etc... With Outdated Interiors And Features. Also Some Vehicles Are Limited For Some Countries Only ( Not Sold In Other Countries ).
Air Assault!!!!!!
I really wish Nissan put some better tires on it, and leveled it out. The "Fake your MPG" stance really hampers it offroad. I traded in my 2012 Xterra Pro-4x for a 2022 Frontier Pro-4x. The Xterra was completely stock except for the KO2's and I never had an issue going anywhere I wanted in the back country. While it's really nice taking a modern truck off the beaten path, and the trail cam is a fender saver, it is handicapped by a couple of simple fixes. And I understand they wanted to keep the price as low as they could, and serious overlanders were going to mod it out anyway. So then for my location and needs, 2.5 inch lift and some 33's will make it a legit Norcal boondocker.