How to Install Vinyl or Laminate Flooring Over Existing Ceramic Tile
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- Опубліковано 19 гру 2020
- In this video we show you how to install vinyl flooring over existing ceramic tile in a home entrance and bathroom. For this project, the goal was to reuse the existing trim so that it would match seamlessly with the rest of the house. Laying vinyl or laminate flooring over existing tile is a great way to upgrade a floor space without getting into messy demolition work.
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Tips & Tricks:
- Create "tapping blocks" out of a piece of flooring to use with your mallet so you don't damage the surface or edges of your new floor
- Investing in a "pull bar" can save time and help with tricky sections during installation.
- For installations over existing ceramic tile, make sure your tile is in good condition. Broken, loose or damaged tiles will not make a good foundation for the new floor.
- Leave a small gap between your new flooring and the wall to allow for expansion. This gap should be small enough to be covered by the trim.
- Make sure your work area is as clean as possible before you start laying floor.
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This is exactly what I needed. The video was well laid out. Gave me the confidence to try this soon. Thank you👍🏾
Glad we could help. Good luck!
This is the perfect how-to video. It’s easy to follow, clear and precise, and the handsome hosts are a bonus gem!
Thank you!
Thank you so much for this video!!! I didn’t want to remove our existing tiles in our bathroom. This is very detailed so I will follow your suggestions.
Thank you !
This is exactly what I plan on doing in my bathroom update. Very well demonstrated and explained. Thank you very much. 👍🏼
Glad you liked it!
How did it go?
@@DIYDudes the other videos i watched fill the grout lines. Why didn't you fill the grout lines first?
@@tinablair6262 ..same question here..
Me too
Nice job. Clear and simple instructions! thanks
Thank you!
I’m 1:25 in and I can tell these guys are good at their work. Game recognize game.
Thanks for the compliment!
Great work! Looking forward to part 2
you make it look and sound so easy, but in reality one really needs to know what they are doing to avoid mistakes that could cause further damage and issues. speaking from wisdom.
Crystal clear man, so good, peace! ✌️
Thanks Glad you liked it!
I've installed floor before but there were some great tips in here. Thank you
Glad we could help, thanks!
Great job 👏🏽. Thanks 🙏🏽 for sharing . This is a great idea 💡.
Thank you!
Thanks , you make it look simple!
Thanks for watching!
I sure wish I could get you two to do my villa floor!! (Sebring Fl.) I will now be searching for a company to HOPEFULLY be as good as you two are!!!
Good luck and thank you !
Excellent work!!!
Thank you! Cheers!
amazing job guys!! now i need you two to do my bedroom!! lol
Thanks, cheer!
Good job lads lots going on there with different areas fitting wise looks nice 👍
Thank you they are still holding up great
Thank you.
This idea just came to me. I did not want the mess of digging up tiles in a lived in house.
Yes it’s less mess and speeds up the renovation process a lot as well. Good luck and thanks for watching!
@@nothingbutthebest3051 should we use backing on the concert flooring?
@@mzwisdom7504 do you mean underlayment under the vinyl planks? If so check the recommendations for your flooring but likely yes, ours had a quality one built in and the manufacturer actually recommended not using an underlayment so we didn’t
@@nothingbutthebest3051Yes that's what my term meant. We will make a inquiry before installing the vinyl planks. Thanks
Man that was satisfying to watch
Thank you!
looks gorgeous~
Thanks!
A few suggestions....
Use a trim bar, not a pry bar.
Also, pre tape the end of your trim bar and pry side to side and not back and forth . Also, a large putty knife or dry wall float up against the surface of the wall so that when you pry the trim off, you won't damage your dry wall and put holes and dents in it.
Thank you
Excellent job. 👍
Thank you!
Your video is exactly what I plan on doing to my newly purchased home! Some other videos recommended using underlayment even if the vinyl planks already have an underlayment attached. The additional layer would be to reduce noise since the pre-attached underlayment is usually garbage (their words, not mine). Would you recommend using additional underlayment or do you find it not needed since you're already laying it on top of tile?
Hey. I think it really comes down to the type of flooring you purchase. The product we used was quite thick and the bottom layer's made from a durable rubber material, so we didn't feel that any additional underlayment was needed. The floor is still looking good and there are no issues with unwanted noises or anything like that.
Thanks for replying! That's good to know.
Smooth and perfect..
Thanks!
Thanks! Great information!
Thank you!
Amazing..great job
Thanks!
Looks amazing
Thank you!
Profesional work
Thank you!
Great video and job...👍
Thank you!
Also. Try and start and end your runs with larger pieces. You can do this by laying out a dry run or simply measuring and subtracting length off the longer beginning or end piece to even it out.
It looks very professional and can make a huge difference.
I’m about to to lay down vinyl flooring and that’s a great tip thank you
I agree
Nice tutorial. I've been considering getting a multi angle guide tool. I'm sold now. My question is: Did you have to cut the locking bead off of the piece you slid into place when wrapping the door jamb? I noticed that you slid it into place with no lifting to lock the joint. Also, what do you use for straight cuts? Thanks.
No don’t cut the locking joint. Once it’s locked in on the long side you can slide it if your careful and don’t tap it to hard.
For the straight cuts I just used the settings on the mitre saw.
The angle tool is great though and cheap. I use it all
The time for those weird cuts. Good luck!
Great video!
I'd love to do the same, but we have got underfloor heating under the existing tiles. Do you think I can still do the same without losing the underfloor heating functions?
Thank you. Yeah I don’t think it’s a good idea to do this over heated tiles
I love this flooring! Could you share the brand and where you got it from please ?
Loved the before tile 😂
Really! And there wasn't a thing wrong with it. :)
Great job good way to Explain thank you gays
Glad you enjoyed it!
*gayz
Great job Boy’s 👍👍👍👍
Thanks!
Beautiful? Great job
Thank you!
Awesome video! I am actually installing the same vinyl tile. I was wondering if I have to cut one side of the line when using the miter saw. I am thinking that if I cut exactly in the middle, the thickness of the saw blade will make the cuts slightly less that exactly half. Thank you!
We just cut it right in the middle, we had 1/8” split between two pieces so 1/16” off of each half. The amount is so minor you can’t even tell, good luck!
1/8” being the width of the saw blade
Guys - old GC here did lousy job with 2x4” tiling my backsplash having major lippage. Will try Prism grouting in to see if helps otherwise need cover. Thought of Venetian texture or micro cement overlay. Or do what y’all be doing with vinyl. Have a sheet to use or could get Traffic master 12x24”peel&stick VT and do a skip trowel texture over Thoughts?
Good video
Glad you enjoyed
Is there a need to put any underlayment between the ceramic tiles and the vinyl? Maybe for humidity?
Good video 👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks!
Hey great video! I want to install LVP in my kitchen and family room (Great room). But kitchen is tile and family room is carpet (Removing carpet) how can this be done properly? Thanks!
Thanks for watching, your biggest issue will be the height of the plywood under the carpet will be lower the top of the tile in the kitchen.
You can either get an overlay ply wood to build the plywood up to the same height as the tile or you can add a height transition strip have a change in the flooring height…. I would prefer to have the floor all the same height
Ecelent idea 💡🤔👌😄♥
Thank you!
I noticed you did not use anything to level the floor (Ardex, etc.). How do you ensure the underlying grout lines won't become indentations in the LVP?
Our flooring was pretty rigid, so it wasn’t an issue… I’ve done it with thinner floors as well and hasn’t been an issue
We are doing this in our bathroom. What do you recommend doing about the tile that meets up next to the tub? Leaving a 1/4 inch will leave a gap and instructions say to use this compressible foam and a silicone sealer over it to waterproof so how would you cover this without looking terrible?
Leave a 1/4” gap install piece of pvc quarter round trim to cover the gap (pvc won’t mold like wood) and silicone the edges to prevent water getting under. If done this before and it looks great
Great video! It would have been nice to learn what kind of tile you used!
Thank you… they were a life proof brand purchased at Home Depot
Just found this and I’m so excited so my big living area is all rectangular tile can I still use this method in a bigger area? Will the grout gaps mess with the new floor?
No they haven’t. We used a really stuff flooring. It might be a problem with the really thin flimsy stuff. If your worried you can fill them in with a mortar skim coat
Thank you so much for your video, my question what about the tile level,
Tiles need to be level. Thanks for watching!
This is great , a question please what is the floor tile is not even . what can one do . or is it ok to just lay out the planks ?
If the tile is not even you will need to make it even by removing select tiles or evening out with mortar
It depends how bad the change in height is
And if my existing tile floor isn't completely level what would be a good way to fix that, and would using extra padding fix the squeaking sound?
Squeaking is probably from your sub floor separating from the floor joists. Padding won’t fix that.
You can pour a second leveling cement over tile to level out the floor Good luck!
This may be a dumb question, but do you normally replace the baseboards with the same ones you took down? Asking bc we have wooden baseboards and would want to reuse them.
In our case we did reuse them as well, just remove them carefully so they don’t break
Can you recommend a product going over existing tile for a bathroom at a beach house (high humidity)
Anything that’s advertised as water proof or luxury vinyl plank would be best. Water proof is best any thing advertised as water resistant will still swell at the joints as those floors have a wood material core
Obrigado!
De nada!
Hi there i’m planning to install vinyl plank in our home but i read that this type of flooring is toxic..is this true?thank you all the best..
I don’t think so.... with today’s safety standards I think you would be hard pressed to find toxic flooring materials... if you are concerned check with the manufacturers of the specific floor you are looking for
Great video. How “deep” are the grout lines on the existing floor? I’m looking to do bathroom and have a similar existing floor. Are there any issues w the grout lines?
Hey, glad you liked the video! A typical grout line shouldn't have any impact as long as it’s installed correctly and recessed below or flush with the existing tile. A small gap like a grout line isn’t really enough to have your floor considered not supported. That said, if you did have an unsupported floor you could get some noticeable bending or bouncing in the floor. If you needed to fill a small gap or other hole in the the floor you can use a cement based self levelling floor product. For our project, the grout lines were standard (recessed) and the existing tiles were in good condition. Overall the new floor is performing well without any noticeable bending, bouncing or other issues.
@@DIYDudes Thanks for getting back to me, very much appreciated.
@@richardbolton1461 No problem... good luck with your project!
Hello, I had the same question : ) So no problem with a typical grout line, that's good point. Could it be bad after a time thought (months or years later ?)
@@steverichardson4793 yes it will be a problem after time. I would put self leveling compound over the tile. Otherwise you will most likely void manufacturers warranty on the product and will have issues later
I plan on doing vinyl over tile but I currently have carpet in the rooms but I also want to do vinyl in the rooms how do I make up for the added height of the tiles to transition into the rooms?
You would have to buy a transition strip to address the height change. You can find them at your local building supply store
Do I need to do an underlayment? Would the seams from old tiles cause any issues?
They didn’t in our case, a normal depth grout joint is fine as long as you are using a rigid flooring… check your flooring manufacturer recommendations on the under layment
Everything that I've been researching and reviewing says that you need a 1/4" spacing. Looking at your video I can't determine if there was any spacing from the wall to the laminate tile for expansion. What are your thoughts on this?
I left a small gap but it becomes almost irrelevant when your crossing multiple tight locations such as the tight areas around door jams( you can’t really leave a gap there) and the area under the toilet where the floor is pinned by the Weight of the toilet.
The floor type i selected was waterproof which had a very low expansion/contraction rate and it was acclimatized for several days.
In short I’ve done a few of these floors and wasn’t overly worried about leaving a large gap
Indeed you do! This applies alot more specifically in the Midwest where there a lot of clay in the soil and the earth shifts, therefore causing the house to shift and the walls shift into the planks and they can "buckle"..
Also, if floating walls aren't present in the basement, and your "stud stacking" the walls from floor to floor, your walls and ceilings will Crack and further causing the floor to buckle because they are against the walls.
Love the look of those tiles..can you post a link here to them? Thank You!
Hey tony sorry but I can’t find them on the website, we got them from Home Depot. Hope that helps
Great job guys. Weren’t you worried about the grout lines translating into the vinyl plank. Did you use a specific type of product to prevent this. Appreciate your advice. Thanks
Nice video! Is the flooring VCT or LVT?
I have a basement that has existing tiles. Some of the tiles are broken, they're not the thick ceramic types. But the cheaper thin home depot ones. I want to retire with the wood style vinyl tiles. Can I lay ot over my existing tiles? Also would I require some sort of glue? I noticed your tiles didn't have glue underneath? Great video btw, 🙏🏽♥️
Thanks for watching. If your concerned about your tiles breaking or continuing to break I would not law vinyl tiles over top as the floor will continue to crumble under the vinyl tiles and cause issues.
Any vinyl or laminate flooring must be installed on a solid/level surface
Also. One absolute main point that isn't mentioned is that there warranties on these planks and depending on the thickness or "mil" size , and if the planks already have backing then you may or may not need "underlayment ".
"Thin ply" , to smooth the subfloor is a required instruction to obtain the vinyl planks guarantee and or warranty if a problem should arise for any reason.
Ultimately, it's much wiser to buy the good stuff with the backing so that you can avoid the "thin ply" .
Infact, thin ply underlayment will VOID the warranty if the vinyl planks have this backing.
If they don't have the backing, then NO THIN PLY UNDERLAYMENT WILL VOID THE WARRANTY.
So read the box carefully before you make you decisions.
Nice job! Question.......would you consider cutting the baseboard the same way to cut all of the door jams instead of completely removing the baseboard? Was considering doing this in my kitchen over ceramic tile but didn't want to remove the baseboard entirely. I planned on finishing it off with a quarter round molding. Thanks.
It’s possible but I think it would be a lot of work. I think you can get a special saw made for that… if you don’t want to remove the baseboards adding a quarter round or shoe moulding would be your easiest bet.
The saw that would be used for cutting the baseboard to a height that you can install just under it is called a jamb saw...it looks just like a circular saw just turned on its side ...the same saw cuts the jambs on the doors hence the name...lol...installing up to the baseboard (leave a 1/4" gap for expansion ) and then underneath the door jambs and adding 1/4 round would be faster as mentioned.
Looks very nice. Just curious as to why no use of adhesive? Thank you!
It’s a floating floor so it’s designed to be able to move (expand and contract slightly with temperatures). Glue would stop it from moving and the joints would separate over time
Would it be a good idea to put those over tile on a backsplash?
You definitely could, I’ve never done it but it would probably look good, you would have to figure out something for the edge though
Would Pergo void the warranty if I install their LVP or Laminate over my existing ceramic tiles? (someone in HD said few products aren’t intended to be installed on top of tiles) not sure on this yet
Thanks for watching you’d have to check with your manufacturer directly… don’t trust the hd guy
Also, run the planks the direction of the hall ways.
Not side to side if you can avoid.
It has better chi or flow.
Hi Guys - Great vid - Would this flooring work for a larger kitchen area?? TIA
Thank you! And yes definitely, we actually did the entry way/bath in the video but we also did the kitchen as well
How would I install an underlayment on top of that ceramic tile?
What kind of transition strip for the end . Did you make that?
It was bought with the flooring…. Same manufacturer and colour.
Most floors have matching transitions available for same elevation transition as well as step down transitions
Would there be concern for moisture developing underneath?
No shouldn’t be a problem unless there’s a flood.... the joints on this floor are water tight
Great video! was wondering if altering the height of the floor around the toilet flange is a cause for concern since the flange usually sits the floor level.
Thanks! It definitely is something to take into account but really depends on the height of your existing flange… if you your flange sits low compared to the new floor height you can get a thicker gasket or as a last resort a sleeve for the flange to raise it slightly
Usually a new wax ring would do the job fine if your only raising it a 1/2” or so
@@DIYDudes awesome, thanks. Keep up the good work. Sub’d
@@DIYDudes That was also my concern. Thanks.
What about when your tiles are loose and not level bad job done ,do i rip them out or use self leveling compound first ?
Christine you need to remove any loose material and ensure the base is level and solid.
Self leveller would do the trick Any changes in smoothness will probably cause the joints to open up if the floor isn’t perfectly smooth
Is it possible to lay a glue-down version of LVT on old ceramic tiles? After laying if there is damage can that be repairable easily?
Yes as long as the glue has a clean level
Surface to adhere to. Thanks for watching!
@@DIYDudes Thanks, but will it damage old ceramic tiles, when repairing the glued LVT or is it better off using click LVT?
Question, should you remove existing tiles if they appear raised in places? I am all for laying vinyl plank over my existing tiles, but I don't want a lump from the old tile below.
Hey Trish you definitely need to make sure that the surface is flat/level
You can’t lay on top of an uneven surface
Always leave a 1/4" gap between tile and wall/fixture to allow for expansion.
I'm trying to do this to my living some tile is crack will I have any issues
I would remove the cracked tiles and refill the gap with self leveling cement? You need to have a solid non moving base
Is their a certain thickness of the planks we need to install over tiles?
No not really, the thicker the better though as some of the very thin ones may depress over time if they are left unsupported at the grout joints
I did this to my kitchen but I noticed in just a few weeks the black sticky backing comes up thru the cracks and sticks to the floors. It starts to look like random scuff marks. Should I seal the cracks in the vinyl sticky tile?
Hey sorry I think you are talking about a different material than we used so I’m not sure. Good luck!
freakin' Awesome dudes!!!!
Thanks!
I am curious, is this tile you installed “luxury vinyl flooring” with a thickness of 6mm? I am considering using the same method in my small business. I found a beautiful product Lowe’s that I would love to use. I also noticed you didn’t fill in any grout lines in the existing ceramic tile. Is it because of the thickness of the vinyl flooring? Thank you
Also, you can save a lot of time and caulking clean up if you pre caulk the back top of the trim. So that when you press it in place, it will caulk your trim .
Test one piece with the bead of caulk and practice till you get the right amount at the right height of bead placement.
I could see that being tough … and might try it though
so laying over the grout lines wont be a problem for stability? in a small bathroom 6x6 floor is it too difficult to use full size planks to move from therre into the adjacent bedroom?
No issue with stability. And the transition is ok between rooms. With the big planks. Good luck!
Can someone help answer this: We are installing almost identical plank flooring (8mm thick) in our mud room over existing hard tile. The tile currently buts up evenly with existing hardwood floors at the transition zone into the kitchen. What do I do at the transition zone as the newly installed plank flooring will now be 8mm higher than the existing hardwood floors. Any recommendations? Thanks
Yes you can get a transition to step down the height at the edge…. Just make sure the flooring you are using has available matching transitions.
Nice,I am trying to put stick on tile on top of tile in bathroom and laundry area.hope I can do this instead of sand the floor down before installing stick on tile please
Thanks for watching. Check the manufacturer’s recommendations on the tile… it might not stick to certain surfaces good luck!
I finally found a flooring I like after looking at samples from several companies but my son is telling me the 12mm is going to raise the floor too high off of my new tiled floors. I just built my house and hate the tile is the thicker laminate an issue?
No I don’t think so. I would just consider the trim tie ins and the changes in elevation to what ever floors it ties in ton
A question. If the ceramic tile floor is not level , then it needs to be levelled for the LVP. Is Using self levelling concrete to do that ok ? Also is having an underlayment necessary under an LVP ?
definitely a self leveler is your best bet for leveling out the floor....... Regarding the underlayment check with your specific floor manufacturer but likely yes at the very least for sound dampening.... if there was no underlayment or no built in under layment the floor would be very loud to walk on.... good luck!
What is this laminate that you used please I really like it !
The flooring was life proof flooring. I would definitely recommend it!
Did the laminate that you used came with padding pre-installed?
Hey Gary yes our floor had a backing built in and the manufacturer recommended not using additional underpad… always follow the manufacturers recommendations.
How did you get the pedestal sink to fit with the raised floor height?
We just raised the sink it was pretty easy.
Thanks for watching. !
Any concern of losing height of the room/ceiling by adding floor over existing tile?
No. It was 1/2” so not a big deal
What if some of my tiles are not completely level?
Hey Armando I would take a straight edge or level and find the problem areas... then remove the bad spots only with a chisel and use some floor levelling cement or the set mortar to leave out the spot you had to remove a tile... good luck!
Good job fellas! I know it was 2 years ago but how did you guys secure the transition strip on the tile? I’m contemplating my approach at the moment, thank you!
We actually didn’t have to in those case because the transition was on the wood. But else where I tried to pl the track to a concrete floor and that did not work. You have to drill through it he tile or concrete to mount it down. Good luck!
@@DIYDudes Thank you
I have a question about starting in the closet, why did you start there instead of in the foyer so that your half planks would be over there instead of a smaller piece where you actually see it all the time? I would think it would be make more sense to have the half pieces by the door just stylistically. Also I may be a little OCD so it might not bother most people. Thanks for the video I have hideous pink tile in my living areas and this makes doing something about it look doable.
The way the tongue and groove of the flooring joins together you need to start in a corner of the room and work your way across and over from there. Good luck!
What would you recommend for putting vinyl over uneven tile?
Just a thin set mortar…. Sand the edges when it’s still moist with a wet sponge
Question, can install wood laminate flooring over a previous grouted floor after lifting the ceramic tile. The grout is flat. Or do you get the grout removed, big job!
If the floor is level and solid you can lay on top of it. … if you e already removed the tile I would go ahead and remove the mortar bed as well
Hey, thanks for capturing of laying your vinyl tiles over existing ceramic tiles. I think i ve got similar dimension of ceramic tiles and i would like to lay the vinyl tiles too. Is there no problem with different deep between ceramic tiles which i sometimes have seen, for example in time ua-cam.com/video/XexN5Z5pVm0/v-deo.html ?
Hey Martin thanks for watching. Yes if you are tiles aren’t level you will have problems with the joints not closing. Smooth out the different heights with mortar or remove the problem tiles and level the hole with mortar. Good luck!
I'm pretty sure the laminate will rattle without an underlayer of foil to even out the tiles. It's amazing how many "How to's" you can find these days that miss important topics. But good for you, you're making money even without knowing all these things.
Underlayment is built in to the tile and would be against manufacturers recommendations. The flooring has been installed for about two years and functions perfectly. Thanks for watching