Cub Cadet Ultima ZT1 Good Quality Or Junk? With Service Review and Tips
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We review and go over service tips and maintenance for the Cub Cadet Ultima ZT1 zero turn mower with 50" Fabricated Aeroforce deck. Is it worth the money? Buy it or take a hard pass?
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Thanks, this really helped tip me into the Cub Cadet Ultima ZT1 camp.
Thanks for watching!
I have a 23 year old 42 inch drive shaft cub.Still in perfect shape.Cut 3 Acer yard.1000 hrs.on it.
For sure a great implement machine. The one you have is nothing like this or what they sell in the box stores
Really appreciate the information! Great video... very informative! I'm actually going to pick this exact model up after work today...
Awesome! Good units! Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the info! Ordered mine, arrives next week. Can't wait for summer so I can start mowing!
Awesome news! Happy mowing!!
My daughter bought this exact model, 2 yrs ago, and one of her goals was, help/ pull, dad into the 21st century… (I was hooked on using a 30+ yr old garden tractor… ),didn’t take long for me to recognize huge advantages in speed and comfort… so, last spring, I got a cub cadet Z2, 60” at a dealership.. priced a bit higher, with larger Kawasaki engine, larger tires, upsized 2800 tranny, $4300, included an extra set of blades… their both great machines, I do the maintenance on both of them, and I agree with all your maintenance tips…:)
Awesome! Thanks for watching!
I purchased the exact same model (Home Depot) spring 2023 to replace a 42" cut Craftsman (made by Cub Cadet) lawn tractor that wasn't really a good match for the bigger lawn at my new home. I mowed my "new" 1.5 acre lawn 37 times that entire summer and into the fall and so far nine times this year with no significant issues at all. The Kawasaki engine is impressive, it cuts well, and it's easy to handle and service. I wish it had an hour meter like my Craftsman did, but it's not hard to keep notes on things, so that's not a big deal. All in all, I'm totally pleased with it. I'd recommend one to my best friend, and I'd buy another in a heartbeat.
Awesome news there! Glad you have been satisfied with it!
You can add an hour meter , very easy .
I have had 4 cubs, 2- 50" and now I have 2 54". Love them. They do a beautiful cut and easy to work on and light weight. Haven't even though about getting any other brand.
Awesome! Thanks for watching!
I wanted a 50 inch deck, but what I've learned with these is it's not the "size" of your deck that matters, it's how you 'use' it.
Haha!!
I've been told that all my life😢
Really appreciate this, its hard to find videos or even comments areas where its not just bashing or clearly biased. Seems like a good overall design and think I'll bite the bullet on one.
Thanks for your comment!
Get mine in 2-3 days and cant wait! Great video!
Awesome !!
Thanks so much much appreciated info on my zt50
Glad to help! Thanks for watching!
After owning my ZT1 42" FAB for a while now, there's a few things I've learned about this mower. The fabricated deck is indeed NOT fabricated. It's more of a stamped design hybrid if you will. It is, however, heavy duty compared to the all stamped deck. Never use water on your deck! Especially if it's hot. The water will be drawn into the spindle bearings, causing the bearings to rust. The plastic seat bumpers are really hard and dont help the ride quality at all. I replaced them with 3" Harley seat springs, and that made a big difference. The mower doesn't come with a strap to keep the seat in place while leaning it forward. Bought one from Amazon. The mower does not come with an hour meeter but is available from Cub cadet. Buy one, and it will help with the maintenance schedule. Do I like the mower. Yes, very much so. I hope my tips will help if someone's looking to buy a Cub cadet. As for the vibrating belt I talked about on my other post, I just learned to live with it.
Awesome info thanks for sharing!
Noce tips, thanks a lot!
The manual says to clean under the deck with water
@mikemccarthy6939 I know what they tell you to do, but I also know what you shouldn't do. I never spray any of my mowers with water. First, it will destroy spindle bearings and could or probably will rust your deck. I have a 30 year old Dixon sitting in my garage that has never had new bearings put in and it also has no rust on the deck. Proof is in the pudding.
@@kansasgardener5844 who’s your pudding guy?
GREAT VIDEO!!!
Thanks for watching I appreciate that!
Nice review. Thanks.
Thanks for watching!
I have had two of these over the last five years or so, they have given me stellar service. The first one I thought I lost the transmission so I went out and bought a second one, but it turns out that the only problem was the spring had popped off the paul that interacts with the disc cog and locks the wheels. After I popped that spring back into place it ran just fine. I ended up selling it to a friend and he still uses it to this day to mow 7 acres+ at his place I’m mowing about 2 1/2 at my place.
I took off the pulley guards because grass was gathering up in there and It was very hard to remove. Once I took the guards off the deck pulleys, I had no problem with grass. It blew off the deck as I mowed. One thing to watch out for is the throttle cable, will rust and get stuck, and you will have to replace it. The only other trouble I have had with this last one is that the seal for that disc brake cog went bad and I had to replace it. I found it on McMaster - Carr for eight dollars. The cub cadet dealer couldn’t even find that seal on the diagram. He said I’d have to buy the whole transmission to get that seal! One last thing, you need to keep the underside of the deck clean. As grass builds up, there will be a stripe of uncut grass left between the right side and middle blades. They really don't over lap. All in all, I can highly recommend this mower.
PS: Can you do a video on changing the transmission fluids?
Awesome! Glad to hear it has been going well for you! I do not currently have a video on the transmission fluids on these but I believe there are a few out there. Thanks for watching and for your first hand informstion!!
I have seen one, unfortunately the only way they could figure out how to do. It was to vacuum out the fluid and even doing that they could only get 1/4 of the time and it holds 2 quarts. There’s no drain plug.
@@TexasScout There is a manual you can download from Hydro Gear at www.hydro-gear.com/download/zt-2100-zt-2200-ezt/ that will explain how to do this. If you cannot get to the fill port on the top to remove the plug and fill it then the hydro would have to be removed to do the hydro oil change. I have seen them designed both ways but I do not remember on this one how it is set up. Thanks for watching!
These are very popular here with TSC in every town and there payment plans
I work on them often and there pretty solid machines for price
Farm & Fleet or Tractor Supply both sell them in this area so we see them often also! Thanks for watching!
Thanking about the 50 in this weekend . I have a 24 Hp Cadet garden tractor Kohler engine fab deck about five years now great tractor so Ive almost decided to get a 0turn .
Definitely a game changer far as time it takes to mow! Thanks for watching!
I bought a 54 inch with fabricated 3 years ago almost 700 hours replaced a starter and throttle cable awesome machine also have 54 tractor fabricated deck gtx 2000 power steering 11 years old no problems still mows like a champ
Great news! Thanks for sharing!
Yes. Got one 4 years ago. They were only $2999 out the door. no issues.
Great! Thanks for watching!!
I’ve owned my 54 p for 20 months and the left hydro seal (brake cog )is leaking so it’s at the repair shop being fixed under warranty unless I hear different. For some reason the seal backs out maybe it’s a touch to small . Using a special locktite when putting the new one in should help the back out thats what the service guy said.mine cuts good but the original blades that came on machine are cheap metal got 2 seasons out of them sharpened them once .took the deck off to do maintenance underneath and the blades were shot metal pieces missing on all blades.what a surprise! Got new blades low lift from tractor supply not cheap but way better metal . I have some bare areas not so much grass hopefully these blades help not creating as much as a dust storm like the height lift blades. Wish the mower went a little faster speed. Thank for the vid!
I have seen it before. Seems many MTD blades match the quality of their stamped decks. Thanks for watching!
Mine is not a stamped deck it’s fabricated.
I understand, just saying their stamped decks are not good and their blades match that quality
Considering my options to upgrade from a Cub 1045 to one like this. Lots of viable options.
I do think using the blower we have out already for yard work is a good idea to get the grass off the mower after every cut. No matter what brand or style.
Definitely!! Thanks for watching!
Great Review
Thanks for watching!
I’ve had my cub cadet 50” for 2 years since we moved to a 2.5 acre property, other then the quality of the $500 bagger option it’s been an awesome mower and I still enjoy operating, cleaning/enjoying its design. I’ll be adding some led lights to it for evening mowing. I highly recommend it it to everyone. Ps ours has the kawi motor and the pre-fabbed 50” deck
Good options you chose! Thanks for watching!
@@IndRepair how does compare to a Hustler Raptor X? They are both comparable to each other. I have some issues with the vent holes around the spindles that are mounted on the cubby. Any thoughts?
I thought the newer cubs had built in LED’s standard? I currently have a 15 year old 50” zero turn Cub with the Kawasaki engine. It’s been a great machine with pretty much zero issues. I just never felt the cut quality was that great, but it’s sufficient. I thought I might try the Husky with the Kawasaki engine.
Sorry, I just saw this! They are very similar and many of the features are exactly the same
The Husqvarna has been changed quite a bit in the last few years the deck and cut are definitely better. Thanks for watching!
Thanks
Thanks for watching!
Getting the 54p version of this with the 54 inch deck. Will be making payments for a while hope it'd a good mower.
Awesome news! Sometimes making the upgrade helps a lot and saves you time and frustration
I'm very satisfied with my 54"!
Awesome! Thanks for watching!
Delivered a nice even cut, has the super tight turning ability ua-cam.com/users/postUgkx1VWTrayKBdCKAjzAcZ_Eg4dhHTae3LkN also recommend I was looking for, and is just a blast to drive. It takes a little bit to get used to driving one after driving a normal tractor style, but once you've got it, you've got it. If you're cutting lines, you have to be careful spinning the mower around or the back tire will dig a bare spot. Just take it nice and slow during the turn and then it's back to full throttle across the yard!
Nice! Thanks for watching!
I’m about to get the 54” go use to residential and possibly some landlord properties. Thanks 👍🏾👍🏾
Awesome! Thanks for watching!
I have this mower. Only thing I don’t like is the grass collecting on top of the deck and sticking to the bottom of the deck. Other than that it’s a great mower. My friend bought a John Deer 54 inch zero turn. It looks like a toy next to my cub cadet. I added grease fittings to my blade spindles.
Good to hear, thanks for sharing!
Fixing to replace belts on one tomorrow if I’m moving ok
Both front tires of wheels also
Nice!
I have alot of uneven ground on 3 acres about messed up and bought a giant deck.tried one and it wanted to gouge.need this 50
Definitely works better on unlevel ground than a 72
Good video Just need to tell people that if you have the Kawasaki engine you have to replace the air filter with only a Kawasaki air filter If you don’t it voids warranty After warranty do what you want Just letting everyone know cause my Kawasaki has major problems and dealer sent photos and Kawasaki saw that the air filter wasn’t factory and Kawasaki voided my warranty Know I’m stuck with a new mower that is junk and have to replace Just trying to help everyone Doesn’t matter what make you have If it’s a Kawasaki engine don’t go to Napa and get a filter Only use Kawasaki parts if under warranty
Warranties are voided for many reasons but in my opinion most cases they are useless anyway. They just give you a reason for the problem to be diagnosed at a dealer so they can tell you it is not covered and xyz amount it what it would cost to fix it.
I purchased a zt1 50" , basically the same one that he is reviewing. No hour meter pissed me off, but not a deal breaker . No deck clean out washer, you can see where they capped it off as they are too cheap to continue installing them, but you can buy it aftermarket for less than $20. The blades are basically crap as they have put 'S' spindles on them instead off 'star' spindles, and that adds about $20 to blade replacement costs. You can get 3rd party 'squashed hexagon' shaped blades that will fit the spindle and are much beafer.
Definitely!
Awesome video. Would you happen to know what the spring part number is for the deck tensioner spring. The 9" or so gold colored spring on the top of the deck.
If you have the model number for your unit I can find it for you
One of the best things you can do to these is rip off the plastic seat bumpers and replace with 3 inch motorcycle seat springs barrel type , send them back to Mr cadet with love (receiver pays) .also,if you do your own blades ,get a blade balancer ,cheap as chips . If you need to double stripe your grass for the "neighbours " maybe get a life first, mower second.
Thanks for watching!
How do you install them onto the seat?
I would like to take your advice but not sure how to install those barrel springs. How did you do it?
@Daves2024 rip off the bumpers, there's a hole in between the 2 slots that secured the bumper, screw, or nut and bolt the spring down.
The point of getting motorcycle seat springs is that they make this easy, a standard coil spring is hard to fit.
I bought a cub cadet 50in mower and used it a few times since I had 3 acres to mow and I loved it. Then someone stole it and insurance paid less than 25% for the cost of replacement leaving me with a bill with nothing to show for it. Life is cruel. Robbed twice.
Wow, that is really ridiculous how they scam you after paying them eveey month for so long.. Seems like this is the case with many things anymore unfortunately
I enjoyed your video about this model. One question - you talked about cleaning grass off of various parts behind the engine and below. Since I've read that you can't use water to spray things off how/with what do you do the cleaning? One disadvantage I have is that I can no longer get down on my knees which I would think would make it more difficult.
Compressed air or a leaf blower work well. Water can also be used but you want to make sure it is completely dried out before trying to start after washing. Thanks for watching!
@@IndRepair Thanks for the advice. I went out and got a Ryobi cordless compact workshop blower. Seems to be easier to poke around on top of the deck and in other places.
Awesome!
EZT hydros have been junk on my two year old Cub Cadet ZT1 54. It's in the shop for the second time this year for a leaking left hydrostatic transmission. Knowing what I know now, I would have bought an Ariens.
Interesting, I have not seen this and definitely isn't the norm. Sounds like you got a defective hydro and they didn't fix it correctly when it was back for repair. I hope they get you fixed up right soon!
I have a yard machine (same company) with the stamped deck it looks to hang the same way I just wonder would one of the fabricated decks fit on mine.
They made many different sizes and options for this deck and engine but they all interchangable and use the same mounting points. Thanks for watching!
Great review! How does this compare with the entry level Husky with the same engine? Thx!
Thank you! Do you have a model number by chance?
@@IndRepair
Hi, the Z254F Special Edition. Thx!
Just about the same!
The ZT1 46inch is a AeroForce fabricated deck.
Thanks for sharing!
Get the bad boy elite 😎 wont dissapoint
I have seen a few and do like just about everything about them!
What are all the lube/grease points on a 54" of this model?? I'm not finding that information anywhere.
Basically front axle on the casters are only two if I remember correctly. Everything else is sealed
I have both the cub zero turn 54 deck and regular riding mower 50 deck they both have same engine and hp both have fabricated decks i will say the riding mower cuts better then the zero turn also the zero turn uses more gas
Good info! Thanks for watching!
i'm looking at cub cadets after owing 4 brand new scags and having issues with all of them, i'm not kidding, i have videos all over my channel, the latest was a $12k tiger cat that leaked in 5 different places after 30 minutes of being in my garage.
Right on
We know the real story
@@herman5eight I see my troll of the year is out in full force, even on Thanksgiving day.
There holding up pretty well for business people and I do warranty work
I think you’ll be happy if you keep it serviced regularly and don’t abuse it
Let it warm up and let it cool down
I have a question. When removing the fuel filter should gas flow out of the tank line?
Depends on where you removed the line. Did you remove it at the carburetor or before the fuel pump?
I bought a zt1 54 " deck in 2019 it has 120 hours on it and the right side hydro transmission is out . Went to dealer to order one 1100.00 said it would be in 5-18-23 went to check today was told it was on back order and it would be Jun 1-2023 so over 3 week not mowing smh
Wow! Haven't heard much on hydro failures this far but good information! Hope you get it back soon!
Same here, mine has around +100 hours and same issue. Hydro is getting very weak and have sheered the bolt off twice in the PTO clutch. I am assuming it is locking up and ripping the clutch out.
Cub cadet is easier compared to our other toro mower, the toro mower is kind of a car without steering fluid , the cub cadet is much much smoother hydro to operate i can operate the with my finger tips..we have 3 toro time cutters all of them has same hard/sticky to operate hydro’s and 3 ZT2’s on out fleet which is always a joy to ride.
Good to hear! Thanks for watching!
These are great.dont beat the shit outa it.its not a tractor.last forever/if well maintained.T800Aust
Most things will last a long time if you take care of them and have the right mower for your yard. Thanks for watching!
Great video. Whats your thoughts on the 42" stamped deck? I have a 25 year old Dixon with a stamped deck and it has no rust on it. I'm really leaning towards the Cub Cadet but I wish it had a fabricated 42-inch deck option. And what do you think about the Kohler engine I can get the Kawasaki but it's 300 more.Thanks.
I would pay the extra for engine upgrade if you go with it. The fabricated deck is a must for longevity unless your cutting flat, smooth terrain
@@IndRepair They make one that has an 18hp Kawasaki and 42" fabricated deck. I will check into it.
I was thinking they did dint have time to check further
@@IndRepair Yep they sure do. For anyone that might be interested it's the Cub Cadet Ultima ZT1 42" FAB. It was down to the Bad Boy MZ Rambler or the CC. CC just offers more for the money and has better reviews. Your video also helped sway my decision. Thanks.
So I purchased the ZT1 42" FAB and it has the belt vibration issue. Any Idea what's causing this? Mine is doing the same thing as this video posted on YT. Thanks.
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What's that attached to the front of the unit weights? That's that help for hills
Weight it is! Thanks for watching!
Dude has a bagging attachment, counterweights in front to keep full bags of grass in the rear from flipping you over.
I have a zts2 with Kohler 7000 series on it. About 6 hrs. I noticed early that one exhaust pipe seemed like it was running hotter than the other because it was discoloring. I had it running after dark the other night and the pipe was glowing a nice cherry red.
What's going to be causing one side to overheat like this?
There's no debris on the cylinders blocking airflow.
This should still be covered under warranty I would have them take care of it. It could be a few different things. Your exhaust valve not seating properly is the most probable at 6 hours for sure! It could just need a simple adjustment but being this new...let them deal with it in my opinion...
What does a tune up cost ?
Don't remember the parts used here but normally $235-$265 with parts/labor
When did they get rid of the hour meter? I have the ZT1-50 with the Kawasaki and mine has an hour meter.
I am not sure, seems like about half and half I see
Strange. Glad I got one with it!
I have a quick question.. the white plug on the deck next to the batter on the opposite side of the solenoid.. what is it? My buddy’s mower won’t start and that wire assembly is ripped off.. the plug is still there but the rest of it is completely gone so we don’t know where it ran to
Sorry not sure exactly what you speak of...any more information?
There’s a plug next to the battery that I believe goes to the ignition assembly. One plug is free and goes to nothing.. the other plug has a green and red wire.. I’m not sure where those wires were leading to exactly because somehow they got torn out by a stick or something. It’s on the left side of the battery if you’re looking at it from the front.. that’s all I really know
At 5:07 of the video you can see it.. it’s a clear plug on the far side of the battery.. I have no idea where those wires go all that’s left is the plug unfortunately
Looks like the seat switch to me??
Nevermind, just saw it goes the other way
So none of these cub cadet zero turn mowers have an hour meter?
Normally not far as I know
The 42" is now a fabricated deck.
That is great they made that switch I see the only one that comes with the stamped deck (online anyway) is the electric version
sucks they got rid of the hour meter
Definitely so, helps people know how used it is when purchasing pre-owned
Sealed bearings seems to me to be a real flaw? The smaller ZT1 has a much thinner stamped deck too which is another concern. The hour meter is an easy fix. This video is specific to the fabricated deck models and you should point that out. I don’t think you would recommend all ZT1s.
Almost everyone is using sealed bearings anymore with no grease zerk but this does not make them the best option. I mention the deck options toward the beginning of the video and touch on the quality of the stamped deck a few more times throughout the video. Thanks for watching and for your input!
@@IndRepair my Spartan doesn’t have sealed bearings.
Hmm, every one I see in does have sealed bearings. How long ago was it purchased? Wonder if there was a change at some point in production
@@IndRepair I purchased it in 2021
Interesting!
Waiting on my refund check very first time 15 mins into cutting grass spinde covers was so full of grass deck wouldn't turn took covers off was fine first time I needed blades had to change spindes to six point cause S blades weren't available had a spinde freeze up then throttle cable broke on back order the two year warranty insurance company been dealing with them since April 20 called the other day said mower wasn't fixable sending me m.y . money back don't recommend at All
My deck was gone in two years
Sounds like a bad unit for sure! I see the decks on these last pretty long never have I seen that. Thanks for watching!
this is by far the worst purchase I have ever made. a Walnut took out an arbor, somehow that also bent the deck (paper thin) 700 dollars. i have needed service 2 times in 2 years and nothing is covered. don't waste your time calling cub cadet because they could not care less about their reputation. I walk my yard but I never thought a walnut was enough to take out a 4000 dollar machine...the question is do i even spend the 700 to fix on a bic lighter?
This has the fabricated deck which is much thicker. I would think yours was the stamped deck model? Warranties at all levels anymore are useless it seems. That's just for them to switch the shell out too probably?
@@IndRepair
He comes here to complain, but too busy to answer your question?
I'm skeptical that a Walnut took out a spindle which is what I'm assuming he's talking about. Not to mention bending the deck, even a stamped deck. Something doesn't add up.
The stuff you light with the Bic might just be your problem 🤪
I have had a Zt1 3.2 years and it’s been junk for the last 2 years. The clutch just fell off and now there is an electrical problem to engage the new Pto clutch
It’s not uncommon to find parts that fall off in the yard. Junk junk junk.
Never heard of issues like this on them. What engine and setup do you have? Where did you buy it? Almost seems like it has to be the assembly that went wrong from where you got it
It has the Kohler engine and I purchased it at Tractor supply. Hopefully a Pto switch will fix this current issue.
@@JawIII550 I hope so for you too! That is crazy!
They do in fact have a hour meter.
Ok...can you share where this is located on this model?
Where? I thought that had to be bought separately
42 hours on mine , nothing but trouble , warranty is worthless.
That is interesting. Haven't heard too much in the way of issues on them. What have been the main issues?
Yep I agree it’s pure hell getting anything done
They even block your phone number
Interesting!
@@philliphall5198What issues are you having with your mower?
That’s total BS. I’ve dealt with Cub Cadet for other products and find them great to deal with…. Maybe find a different dealer or go directly to CC…. They certainly don’t block phone numbers.
Never buy any riding lawn mower from the big box stores. First: they don't know how to put them together and second: they wash their hands of it after 30 days and tell you to call Cub Cadet if you have problems and you will have problems. you will get juggled from one to the other with nowhere to turn. The ZT1 is the cheapest (in quality) you could get, 2 ply tires that are paper thin, the lowest quality engine of each brand, the Hydros are the cheapest, the deck vibrates, and they throw belts. If you must buy the CC ZT get the ZT 3,4,5 or better yet, buy the commercial grade, you will pay more for quality and like my pappy says, you get what you pay for.
This mod has the deck upgrade instead of stamped deck. I dont see hardly any issues with this deck setup. Getting help with a warranty often takes much persistance no matter the company anymore (buying at a dealer you will normally get better service & repairs, yes) The assembly techs at dealerships are many times just as unskilled as box store assembly techs (not going to put your best guys on assembly as they make much more on repairs) Yes this is the cheapest of the line but the ZT4 is almost twice as much. Many better options available when you get to that price point. Definitely true if you spend more you will get a better quality (most cases). These are sold at dealerships and the box stores. Thanks for watching!
I absolutely love my zt1 50
No, Cub does not use Briggs.
They may not be using them anymore but definitely wer once made with this option
In 2 years, my drive belt has come off 3 times. $200 repair and 4-6 weeks with no mower. ZT1 50 inch. Don’t buy this junk.
That should definitely not happen! Sounds like someone is not addressing the problem you have
Who farted? 🥴💨😵
Junk mower
You could be accurate in saying something like this about most mowers out there today but how you take care of it directly correlates to how it treats you in most cases. Thanks for watching!
Junk mower lol, I love mine