Awesome video there Mike!! What a brilliant selection of locomotives and sadly 321s you saw passing wembley depot to start off with!! You got a stuning shot head on of 66753 there down the long straight! Nice to see the 37 at the end with a nice 2 tone!! Tragic accident that mustve been at HRW back 72 years ago but makes you grateful for all the safety systems in place inside the trains today!!
A great video Mike. Very sad about the history of the crash at H & W sstation, 1952 was the year i was born so never knew much about it untill i was in my teens. Hope you have a good weekend in the sunshine mate, cheers, Colin.
Thanks Colin, yes most of the weekend was good, but I've been struck down with Gastroenteritis since Saturday Morning, just finding some energy to answer these comments, Mike.
Superb shots and captures there Mike. Nice sounds and action. Shame about what's happened here in the past and it's hard to hear. Nice to see 611 for ROG. Very nice indeed! Really enjoyed, thanks for sharing! Take care, have an awesome day and all the best! Jamie
When I was learning the road between Manton Jcn and Kettering North Jcn an old-hand driver told me about an incident many years back on the 'Up Corby' at what I suspect would have been Corby's 'Home Signal'. A class 45 hauled train had been brought to a stand at this signal, situated just outside the northern portal of Corby Tunnel, on the 'Up Corby' to wait while a freight train was shunted ahead of him. As you wait at this location (there is no longer a signal there) you stare into the blackness that is Corby Tunnel, prevented from seeing far by the quite sharp left-hand curve in front of you. You are also on quite a rising gradient through the tunnel in a southbound direction (the direction the train was heading). The driver and secondman waited, most likely fully aware of why they were being held, so I suspect unconcerned at the delay. Sadly, the train that was shunting ahead of them had the misfortune to have a few (the driver relaying the story said 3) wagons 'break away', and so these began their descent of the downward gradient, gathering pace as they slipped through the darkness of the mile long tunnel. For those breakaway wagons their first nine tenths of a mile is dead straight, followed by a sharp right-hand curve as they approach that northern portal exit. Now I do not know how fast these wagons were travelling as they came into view but I can only guesstimate it would have been in excess of at least 30+mph. Sadly both driver and fireman had insufficient time to react and the subsequent collision smashed the front of the 45 so badly that both lost their lives. N.B. Having typed this story out but before posting it, I have 'Googled' "Corby Tunnel Railway Accident" and apparently only 1 person was killed, but I relay the story to you as it was relayed to me. The date of this incident was September the 11th, 1975.
I oonce had to visit somebody in Street, in Somerset, and I was picked up at Bath station to go there. The man driving the car told me that he had beendrivng over the road bridge at Harrow when a coach appearedd in the air - a casualty of the crash.
The emergency services were helped by USAF troops who were still in the UK post WW2. They used the triage system, which, as a result, is still used to this day at major incidents. So, as tragic as this incident was in 1952, a lot was learnt from it.
Great filming at a station with a sad history Mike, thankfully everything flowing nicely on that day. Yes Duchess, City of Glasgow, Jubilee 5637 Windword Islands and the Pacific 46202 which had only just been converted back to a conventional loco, the Turbo motive. Really enjoyed this footage, hace a great weekend cheers Nick.
As a railway man myself, whenever we 'learn a road' with such a location, historical incidents are always talked about. This is primarily done because there will generally be a lesson to be learned and nobody wants a repeat. However, I can assure you even many years later amongst railway staff we always show due respect to those who lost their lives at these locations.
Only in peacetime. The disaster at Gretna in 1915 is the worst, with 227 killed and 246 injured. From 1990 to 2007 I used to live in the house where one of those killed, Samuel Stephen Dyer used to live. Expecting leave from work that weekend towards the end of May 1915, he was called by the L&NWR to Euston to cover a shift in his usual role of sleeping car attendant. That is how he came to be aboard the midnight express to Glasgow that ran into the wreckage of the initial collision.
Can I suggest that as a mark of respect to all those who died at Harrow & Wealdstone you edit and correct the spelling of two words in the title of this video so that it reads: THE STATION WHERE 122 PEOPLE LAST THEIR LIVES Also please leave out the silly afterthought. For those who wish to learn what happened on that dreadful day in October 1952, consult: L.F.E. Coombs, "The Harrow Railway Disaster 1952", published by David & Charles, 1977.
Good work there Mike thanks for sharing
Thanks for your interest in this video.
Awesome video there Mike!! What a brilliant selection of locomotives and sadly 321s you saw passing wembley depot to start off with!! You got a stuning shot head on of 66753 there down the long straight! Nice to see the 37 at the end with a nice 2 tone!! Tragic accident that mustve been at HRW back 72 years ago but makes you grateful for all the safety systems in place inside the trains today!!
A great account of this video you have put together Jacob, thank you very much Mike.
A great video Mike. Very sad about the history of the crash at H & W sstation, 1952 was the year i was born so never knew much about it untill i was in my teens.
Hope you have a good weekend in the sunshine mate, cheers, Colin.
Thanks Colin, yes most of the weekend was good, but I've been struck down with Gastroenteritis since Saturday Morning, just finding some energy to answer these comments, Mike.
Great tribute to Harrow and Wealdstone. Well done 🤓
Cheers Tony.
When 112 people died in the Harrow And Wealdstone crash in 1952 it was a devastating crash and my condolences are with their families
Indeed it was sir.
Great video Mike, fair bit of freight around too
Yes it can be better at other times I believe Andrew.
Regards Mike.
Superb shots and captures there Mike. Nice sounds and action. Shame about what's happened here in the past and it's hard to hear. Nice to see 611 for ROG. Very nice indeed! Really enjoyed, thanks for sharing! Take care, have an awesome day and all the best! Jamie
Many thanks Jamie
When I was learning the road between Manton Jcn and Kettering North Jcn an old-hand driver told me about an incident many years back on the 'Up Corby' at what I suspect would have been Corby's 'Home Signal'.
A class 45 hauled train had been brought to a stand at this signal, situated just outside the northern portal of Corby Tunnel, on the 'Up Corby' to wait while a freight train was shunted ahead of him.
As you wait at this location (there is no longer a signal there) you stare into the blackness that is Corby Tunnel, prevented from seeing far by the quite sharp left-hand curve in front of you. You are also on quite a rising gradient through the tunnel in a southbound direction (the direction the train was heading).
The driver and secondman waited, most likely fully aware of why they were being held, so I suspect unconcerned at the delay. Sadly, the train that was shunting ahead of them had the misfortune to have a few (the driver relaying the story said 3) wagons 'break away', and so these began their descent of the downward gradient, gathering pace as they slipped through the darkness of the mile long tunnel. For those breakaway wagons their first nine tenths of a mile is dead straight, followed by a sharp right-hand curve as they approach that northern portal exit. Now I do not know how fast these wagons were travelling as they came into view but I can only guesstimate it would have been in excess of at least 30+mph. Sadly both driver and fireman had insufficient time to react and the subsequent collision smashed the front of the 45 so badly that both lost their lives.
N.B. Having typed this story out but before posting it, I have 'Googled' "Corby Tunnel Railway Accident" and apparently only 1 person was killed, but I relay the story to you as it was relayed to me. The date of this incident was September the 11th, 1975.
I will reply in a few days.
Another good video Mike, sadly Harrow and Wealdstone will always be synonymous with that terrible accident, same as Lockerbie will for PAN AM 103.
Yes James, and thank you for you comment.
sorry in reply so late. Mike.
Nice video Mike, shame about what did happen in 1952.
Terrible Simon, thank you.
I oonce had to visit somebody in Street, in Somerset, and I was picked up at Bath station to go there. The man driving the car told me that he had beendrivng over the road bridge at Harrow when a coach appearedd in the air - a casualty of the crash.
Very frightening experience, cheers for your comment.
Quite a bit of freight on view here...super tribute to the station and what happened there.
In a way yes it was. Cheers.
Good captures and tribute.👍
Thank you Dave.
The emergency services were helped by USAF troops who were still in the UK post WW2. They used the triage system, which, as a result, is still used to this day at major incidents. So, as tragic as this incident was in 1952, a lot was learnt from it.
Oh right Ben.
Great filming at a station with a sad history Mike, thankfully everything flowing nicely on that day. Yes Duchess, City of Glasgow, Jubilee 5637 Windword Islands and the Pacific 46202 which had only just been converted back to a conventional loco, the Turbo motive. Really enjoyed this footage, hace a great weekend cheers Nick.
Sorry Nick I don't feel well will get back to you.
@@antman09ful1Sorry Mike, never a problem as and when mate, in your good time hope you feel better very soon.
Great video Mike. Sadly this station will always be remembered for that fateful day!
As a railway man myself, whenever we 'learn a road' with such a location, historical incidents are always talked about. This is primarily done because there will generally be a lesson to be learned and nobody wants a repeat. However, I can assure you even many years later amongst railway staff we always show due respect to those who lost their lives at these locations.
Yes you are right, sorry I cant say much more as I am ill.
It sure will Phil
@@antman09ful1 No need to apologise. I trust you make a speedy recovery. Wishing you all the best. Regards, Julian.
Yes It will Phil
Great video Mike👍
Thanks sir👍
It was and still is Britain's worst Rail disaster.
Only in peacetime. The disaster at Gretna in 1915 is the worst, with 227 killed and 246 injured. From 1990 to 2007 I used to live in the house where one of those killed, Samuel Stephen Dyer used to live. Expecting leave from work that weekend towards the end of May 1915, he was called by the L&NWR to Euston to cover a shift in his usual role of sleeping car attendant. That is how he came to be aboard the midnight express to Glasgow that ran into the wreckage of the initial collision.
@@southcol7911Absolutely, gas lit lamps wooden coaching stock.,say no more.
Reply later.
@@antman09ful1👍👍
The station WHERE 112 people lost THEIR lives.
You're welcome!
Oh ok
@@antman09ful1 Change it then!
Can I suggest that as a mark of respect to all those who died at Harrow & Wealdstone you edit and correct the spelling of two words in the title of this video so that it reads:
THE STATION WHERE 122 PEOPLE LAST THEIR LIVES
Also please leave out the silly afterthought.
For those who wish to learn what happened on that dreadful day in October 1952, consult:
L.F.E. Coombs, "The Harrow Railway Disaster 1952", published by David & Charles, 1977.
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@@tow1709 Ha!! So, even I am not immune to an online blunder!🙄
When I have answered all the comments on this video I will do that.