Toyota 4Runner Lift Kit | Eibach Stage 1 Lift System | Falken Wildpeak M/T 285/70r17 | 17" Rocktrix
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- Опубліковано 10 лис 2021
- A REAL 3" lift for your 5th Gen Toyota 4Runner!! In this video I'll show you everything I put on this 2016 Toyota 4Runner to give it this aggressive off-road look and not break the bank. Links for everything I purchased will be listed below !! If you have any questions don't be afraid to ask. ENJOY!
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Very thorough and well done! I’m new to lifts and I really appreciated how you broke all the information down for this of us learning
Awesome! Thank you. That’s exactly what I was going for. I had seen a lot of videos but no one ever just showed me exactly what I was looking for. So I figured I’d try to be straight to the point and give some real numbers for people to consider
Best video out there on explaining your build and similar to what I want! Ty
Thank you! I tried to put all the information I had been wanting to find but couldn’t seem to get from other videos. Straight to the point and show it visually as well
Mr, thank you so much for this video. It was extremely helpful to build my 4runner. Blessings
Your very welcome. I figured there were a few people out there with similar questions that I had. So I wanted to get the info out
Man this is the best budget informative video I've been looking for....Thanks a ton brother. Looks great....I saw the trimming video too...well done.
Thanks !! I really appreciate it! I really wanted to get the information out there and straight to the point. All the simple questions I’ve always had about doing these upgrades in one place. 🤙🏼🤙🏼
Thanks !! I really appreciate it! I really wanted to get the information out there and straight to the point. All the simple questions I’ve always had about doing these upgrades in one place. 🤙🏼🤙🏼
Great timing of the video, looking to make some modifications soon and doing my research now. I have the identical year/color as you, so i have an idea of what I can achieve. This also helped me decide to go with the falken tires
That’s awesome! Exactly why I made the video. I had been doing the same thing forever and always got different info or not the info I was looking for. Glad I could help
Good job explaining offset and tire sizes. Thanks for the video.
Glad it was helpful!
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Thanks for the thorough explanation
Your very welcome.
Thanx. Found the video. Great detail.
Awesome! Hopefully it answered all your questions
Great looking ride!
Thank you 🤙🏼
Bro that looks freaking sick it looks like 2022 4 runner niceeee
Thank you I appreciate that. We are super happy with the turn out. Everyone we wash her up and take a look we are impressed. Super clean and just the right hight. I also really like the MT Falkens. I just put a set of 35’s on my Ram and they look sick
Great video! Thanks for sharing the details and info
No problem! Happy I could be of help! I’ve always had all the questions and finally put the answers together. I could never find the right combo for the look I wanted.
@@FortKnoxCo I have a Nautica Blue 21 Venture 4Runner and hope to do a lift and add some larger tires, this was super helpful. Earned a subscription from me!
@@ianarsenault hell yeah!
I don't comment much but mannn this video was helpful.
Nice! Well I really appreciate it. I’m glad I could be of help!! I hope you hit the like button too! Thanks again!!
Tough looking rig and thanks for all of the information. Subbed
Thank you! I really appreciate it. I literally just put new wheels and tires on my RAM 2500 and I’m doing the same kinda informational video to help people out and show exactly what to expect when switching stuff out.
Going on UA-cam and trying to get information is a tricky thing because sometimes you don’t really get the info you were looking for or people really don’t explain it well but your video is very clear and the truck looks amazing again. I’m getting out of my lease in six months and I think I wanna pull the trigger and get a forerunner. It’s gonna be my forever vehicle. Little by little I’m gonna want to put mods and do a few things to it but wheels and tires are definitely the first thing to do, along with the lift kit. I look forward to the other video. Thanks again and be safe.
@@xfilecity that’s awesome! If you do you’ll love it. And it’ll run forever. These things are amazing and fun. Especially if you use it and see what it’s capable of.
Informative content appreciate the your concise low down on all of what’s needed to clear 285’s. Plan on trading in my 18’ Taco OR for a 22’ Runner ORP soon. I’m thinking of keeping OE wheels w/285’s and add spc UCA. Hoping to get similar results as you did.. 👍🏽🙏
No problem! I made the video to try n put all the basic information in one spot and show visually what to expect. I kept having to look all around to see what would fix, how’d it’d actually look, what offset should be, blah blah blah. So I finally got it and wanted to put something out so people could have a reference
Very nice
Thank you. !
Great video! Exactly what I am looking for. did you add wheel spacers on this? And did you have to move the TPMS and stem from your stock rims to the new wheels?
Your very welcome. No spaces. Just the offset wheels. And the sensors I had installed by the tire shop who mounted and balanced for me. I’m not sure if. Had them remove the old ones or just purchased new ones. But the new set up does have sensors
I think I going to do that same kit but 275/70/17 Should be good with zero off set and no rubbing.
Those will look great too!
Awesome video. Do you have a driver side lean? If so was the kit able to compensate for it. Did you end up get uca ?
Thank you. And nope no lean at all and I’m still running just the kit and the wheels and tires. Love the ride and feel. No UCA’s.
Stability is why I did mine on the -12mm offset. It just handles so much better now and not much roll on cornering now.
That’s true! I never really considered that but 💯. I agree
Great video. Did you keep you Upper Arm Controls? Does your steering wheel shake? Thanks!
We kept the upper control arms and it drives like a dream. No shake. I feel like it’s a lot better than stock ride.
looking up that lift, it looks like the rear is a 1" and front is a 2.75". Do you have any issues with the rear end sagging? we plan to add some weight to the 4 runner
We have zero issues with this lift. Rides better than stock in my opinion and it sits level.
Shawn at Rogue is great and knows his shit!
Yeah they were great. Took the time to answer my questions and knew all about their vehicles and what fits and what doesn’t
@@FortKnoxCo I've known him through FB groups for years. When I vacationed to Vegas a couple years ago, I made a point to drive out, meet him face to face and check out his shop 👌
Great video. How’s the ride quality after the lift vs stock?
I think the ride is way better. The tires ride nice too. Not noisy, has a nice clean sound to it.
Dude, awesome overview. Wanting to get this same Eibach kit. Did you also replace your upper control arms? That would add another $600 . I'm looking at 2500-3k out the door incl tires (keeping my 17" TRD wheels).
Thanks man! I didn’t replace the upper arms, mainly for budget reasons. You don’t need to change them unless your going over 3” on the lift. After that’s it pretty much a must to help with alignment. If your keeping your stock TRD wheels then you can take that money and put it towards upper arms and be in the same budget I was in. Just under $3k out the door after taxes and everything.
You don't NEED to change them...but you should strongly consider it on any lift 2.5" or more...especially if doing any kind of moderate to heavy offroading
@@Serjical23 yes you NEED them if you want to do it the way is supposed to
Great video and very helpful. I actually ordered the exact rims in the link but went with the gray ones. That said, I went with the stage 2 Eibach lift (without extra reservoirs) and hopeful I have the same luck as you with everything working out after the build was done. Only question I have is around the adjustments required. It appears most of vids where 285/70/17 are installed, require mudflap removal and addressing the inner fender well towards the front of the truck. Some even required a 1” to 1.5” trimming (baby viper cut) to eliminate rubbing. You had none of these issues with this setup?
That’s awesome. Should look sweet once you get it all together. I only had a little bit of running on the mud flaps and had to trim and secure them so they don’t touch. Didn’t have to do much though to get the running to stop. We get no rub at full turn both ways , forward and reverse.
I made a video about the rubbing and trim I did. Should be right after this video. Or it can be found in my video library.
We still love the set up. No complaints at all. Rides smooth and handles awesome
Just found the other vid. Thanks again
Do you have the link of the lug nuts you using for the new wheels? Looking to upgrade my SR5.
I just added the Amazon link to the black extended lug nuts I used. I had the tire shop put them on and they had them in stock. But these where the ones they used. The link should be in the video description now.
Hi dear thanks for the info, question i like those wheels can i put them in a 2023 4 runner with 265/70/17 falken allterrain tires, do i need modified, thanks good day👍🏼
Thank you! Those 265/70/17 should fit good. I put the 285’s on and only had a tiny bit of rubbing. My guess is you’ll have little to no problem
What is your front snap ring settings? First (bottom) or second?
I have these set all the way up to get the max lift out of it. Ended up giving me basically 2” full inches. After the tire upgrade the center of the 4Runner sat exactly 3” taller than all stock.
How do you like thr falken MT? One of the ones im thinking, as well as yokomaha and toyo mt.
I love them. I just put the 35’s on my RAM truck a month ago. The MT’s. Not loud on the triad either in my opinion. Smooth ride. And looks great
sir have you tried changing our brake pads? for me our stock brake pads not so good
I’ve changed them a year or so ago. But we don’t put a lot of miles on this truck so we don’t go through them very often
Did you have the 4runner lean, where the drivers side was a little lower?
I haven’t noticed any lean. After this suspension/lift upgrade and tires I feel like it’s handling way better too. But very level from what I can tell
for the Eibach Stage 1 Lift-Kit install how much did they charge you for labor?
I think it was like $500? I felt like it wasn’t too bad. They got it done in a half day.
4:20 correct me if i’m wrong but the stock sr5 rims have +15 offset, atleast that’s what i have on my ‘21 SR5P, bought some 17x8.5 0 offset method race wheels 316 and they poke out wayyyy more than stock sr5 rims.
You may be correct. With the research I’ve seen lost of answers and most report +15 on stock SR5 wheels. Mainly I was trying to show what an aftermarket offset looks like with a specific wheel so people could see how much to expect. It definitely is way different than stock. Lol
@@FortKnoxCo ahh gotcha, but in the future i will settle for a -12 offset, some people are running -38 that’s way too much of a poke and probably need a BMC done, -12 seems to be the sweet spot.
Whats your MPG's with the 285 Mud tires? Thanks.
Currently it’s just over 15mpg. We do about 50/50 highway/street driving. But I’m easy on the peddle lol.
Will this lift kit fit work for my 2017 4Runner SR5 ? and how is the ride quality driving on highway/freeway?
Yep. It sure will. We thing the ride is better than stock for sure. With the MT wildpeak tires is a smooth ride. I 100% recommend it. Good for on & off road.
Awesome! Mahalos!🤙🏼
Nice build man, did you set the slot clips on the 3rd slot? Mechanic says it 3” lift on the 3rd slot
It’s on the top one. So i believe that’s the 3rd slot. But I’ve heard it’s supposed to be a “3 inch lift”. But once it was sitting on the ground I only measured a good 2.5”. So I’m sure it’s splitting hairs, but that’s what I saw after it was all said and done. After the new tires I got the full 3” from prior set up.
@@FortKnoxCo mine is on the 3 slot, my mechanic said 3” lift the bottom is only 1.5”-2” lift
@@rupertgumban9251 that’s awesome if it gave you a full 3”. I’m just reporting what I measured before installing and after it was all done sitting on the ground. I’m sure there’s some variables. I also measured roughly in the middle of the vehicle to see what the full center clearance was gained.
What do those tires sound like for day 2 day driving?
There isn’t much road noise. We have No complaints. Feels like it rides better overall too so the Drive experience is better
Do you not have to do the diff drop with that lift?
Nope. It’s all suspension. It’s about as much lift that you can get before having to do stuff like that. You’d either need new spindles, diff drops or other things if you want to go bigger than this 2.5-3” lift.
How is the ride with the eibach suspensions?
Really nice. No complaints. A lot better than stock in my opinion. Freeway speed is good too.
Did you have to to the diff drop too ?
Nope. Just the lift kit. We love the ride now.
Did you get a BMC to clear your 285s?
Nope. Just the suspension upgrade and there was a tiny bit of rubbing. And I made a video about how I got rid of the rubbing. It was a really easy fix.
Could you just use a 1 1/4" spacer on the wheels instead of getting the wheels with offset? Thanks.
That could be an option but there’s some risks with spacers rather than getting the wheels with the appropriate offset. Both could accomplish the same look. The spacers I’ve heard can add more stress to the spindles and connecting joints, especially if they aren’t installed correctly or ever loosen up.
@@FortKnoxCo Thanks! Have heard things about that but wondering if the looks would still be the same as offset
did you have ti replace the driver side needle besrings sfter lifting??
I don’t believe so. It was the suspension package from eibach and the wheels n tires. Nothing else was replaced. The shop that installed the lift did the alignment and we were good to go. Haven’t had any problems since. Rides better than stock
Over 3" lift you'll need to change the needle bearings.
Are you blinding everyone with your headlamps after the lift ? And you keep saying "get it to fit" but it doesent really fit if the tires are rubbing, now does it ?
Nope. There’s no rake to the front. It’s pretty much leveled out with this set up
How's the ride on the freeway with that lift and those tires. A lot of road noise?
I feel like it rides smoother than stock and the road noise isn’t much at all. I Should have done it sooner
@@FortKnoxCo remind me what the total was for all the adds?
@@toolman67 out the door taxes and everything was around $3,400. Tires, wheels, suspension & labor/install.
Its been a couple years now, hows the suspension? Im having the same one installed right now.
We still love it. Zero complaints. I think it rides a lot better than stock. Have t had any mechanical problems either.
Thanks man! I've been stressing over it for awhile. You had to trim a little bit for the 285s to fit correct? 285s are the next play for me.
@@FortKnoxCo
@@pca97979 yeah. The modification the wheel well was minimal. Not too bad of a fix. But we have had zero rubbing ever since. Even at full turn and going up or down an incline.
how did you not need ucas to get in spec?
With all the research I did it didn’t seem like I’d need them. I was prepared to add them if needed but even after talking with local shops that were very familiar with Toyotas they said I don’t need them if I don’t want to. But if I would have gone any bigger lift or sheen wise then I probably would need them and have to start doing a lot more adjusting.
Did you have to do a diff drop?
Nope. Was able just to put the lift on and realign.
Good video. No new UCA installed?
Thank you. Yeah we didn’t replace the UAC. And it’s been fine. Anything over 2.5-3” lift you want to start considering the new UAC’s for sure. But we are more than happy with the suspension and wheel/tire combo
@@FortKnoxCo Good info. Thank you! Looks great.
@@numbr17 your welcome 🤙🏼
How's the driving quality ?
It’s awesome. Better feel than stock set up for sure. Road noise is quiet. We love it.
Whats your rear and front lift? 2.5/2.5’’
It’s whatever came with the kit. I believe it’s 2.5 in the from and like 1.5 in the rear. But it’s a lift/level kit from Eibach
It brought the whole vehicle up 2.5 and level
Did you need to align it after
Yes. Definitely need it aligned after. But that’s pretty much it. I got a little tire rub since I went up in size so I had to trim the inner plastic a tiny bit.
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What is the name of the side steps you have?
They are the Tyger Auto steps. I just added the link to the for you in my video description. I got them through Amazon and it’s FREE prime shipping on them. Crazy they offer free shipping on such a heavy item but it’s legit. Thanks for asking!
Thx👍
@@justinprivett1 no problem. I guess I shoulda done a video about the step rails too. 🤙🏼🤙🏼 totally forgot to tell people about them.
Yo do you need sway bar drop kit for this
Nope. For this lift and install it’s basically the new shocks and springs. It gives you that 2-2.5” lift without anything major needing to be adjusted or altered. Just a tire alignment. You can add upper arms for a littler easier alignment and clearance but it’s not required.
@@FortKnoxCo thanks man getting stage 2 hopefully it don’t give me a hard time lol
@@tr4ilblazin ehh you should be good. I may be doing the upper control arms in the future on ours. but it was nice to be able to keep the cost down and still fit the new tires. we needed new tires and I didn't want to break the bank to fit them.
@@FortKnoxCo facts man these uca some of them be pricey asf
It looks like your front axels are inclined in a weird angle
Might be the camera angle. I’ve had the vehicle gone through, serviced and aligned and they have said all is good.
Did you go 2 inch in the rear or 1.5
It was the all with the lift kit. It came with the lift coils to level out and lift. I think it was almost 2” in the rear. The whole truck was 2.5” taller measured in center of the vehicle. Once I put the tires on and it was sitting on the ground it was a total of 3” from all stock.
To run 285s properly, you need 8" wide rims. I would not want to risk a blow out at highway speeds should I need to take evasive action when granny drifts into my lane (actually happened). Then there's the additional weight, lower gas mileage, re-gearing of the front and rear differentials and decreased braking efficiency resulting in greater stopping distances. So, for $1,000 for rims, $1,300 for tires, $1,500 for re-gearing and 25% increase in fuel costs every time you fill up (20 mpg down to 15 mpg), I'm not sure if "the look" is worth the cost. You can skip re-gearing and enjoy crappy performance off the line as well as towing issues due to lower torque. Then there's the higher center of gravity and handling at highway speeds.
Sounds like you’ve put a lot of thought into your decision to Not get this set up. There’s a lot of people that have all different kinds of combinations of wheel tire and suspension set ups. I think everyone mostly knows what to expect and what their getting into. I don’t put 37’s on my diesel and hope to get better gas mileage. Haha. I knew what I was signing up for. I love the way this set up looks and so far I have zero complaints. Still averaging about 18mpg and I think it handles better with the wider wheel base and grippier tires.
@@FortKnoxCo That's fair. It seems like a lot of people who post this type of content don't mention these important aspects to consider. 285s on a 7" wide rim really isn't a good combination (according to the manufacturer) and yet people think it's okay.
@@InGratitudeIam yeah these are 9” wheels and I’d usually go at least that when doing an 11” or 12” wide tire. You’ll still get a good look but not compromise the integrity of the tire.
@@FortKnoxCo With 98% of my driving being on pavement and the rest being forest service roads and the rare fire trail, I can't justify the expense. Yes, I love the look but, for my particular needs, it's not justified. I will say that switching out the Bilstein 5100s in the front with 6112s and included springs was well worth it... for me. :))
The other thing is maintaining or improving width over height. It seems like going from 265s to 285s might add .75" in width and height. Not ideal because the width should be more for stability. Then there's the lift which adds to more instability. Maybe the engineers at Toyota were on to something? Going to 9" wheels definitely makes sense.
You might want to go into that more in another video.
No doubt, for an extra $20K, you can create an on-road/off-road beast that is fully capable in both environments. I like my 5th gen more than my 4th gen, but there were certain aspects to the 4th gen that were pretty cool.
Thanks for taking the time.
@@InGratitudeIam yeah for sure. No problem. Thanks for commenting.
Invest in some Uca's
Considered it but with just the 2.5” lift suspension wise we haven’t seen any problems. Still riding really nice and no problems or weird noises. Mechanic checks have been good
@FortKnoxCo I got the same kit on my 2010 4runner with total chaos uca running 18×9 with positive 1 offset fuel wheels with a 275 65 18's duratrac and it will take bumps better and you'll get more clearance
@@user-wz7be8rq6d oh nice. Yeah I still might get some down the road. As of right now it’s mostly the wife’s daily driver. Unfortunately doesn’t see the dirt that often.