Old Rusty, First engine run follow-up with corrections and adjustments

This is the follow on , with the needed corrections and adjustments to the engine.. `many viewers were spot on with their comments.
This includes a correction to the fire order, the carburettor and ignition timing..

[@tomwatkins4730]

Good work, Steve. A step into a former era.

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments

[@bigunone]

Interesting I had never seen one of those color tunes , Off to go find one thanks

[@mohabatkhanmalak1161]

You can get them on ebay, amazon. I just checked there, males tune a breeze.

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments, they are cheap and work great

[@bolbarazvan]

Sounds so much better now and runs great! I waited a lot for this moment and it was all worth it! Congrats, Steve!

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments

[@joelpalmer]

Steve's "pretty good" is anyone else's "outstanding"

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments

[@craigmalm1558]

Fun to see you fine tuning, and always feel like I come away with more knowledge after viewing your videos.

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments

[@robames1293]

That engine is a credit to you and your engineering skills. One small point, after re-torquing the head the valve gaps would close up slightly, this may not be important at this stage because they will need adjusting as the valves bed in as well. Stay safe

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments Rob, yes that is what one will or should do... I will do this after it has been broken in or its first 100 Km

[@manfromthemist1958]

well done Steve, another brilliant vid and a great job on the engine

[@D3Sshooter]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@razvanbutiac7684]

Grate job Steve. One point: when the cam shaft is inside the motor and not up in the cylinder head... you should check the rockers clearance after you do the final cylinder head tightening to final torque. The torquing to 50 Kn M will slightly bring down the cylinder head, therefore the distance exchange for the rockers as those are coming down same time with the cylinder head.
Gap will be tighter witch is not good... better have it in the larger side of the specification . If the play on the rockers are to small you can burn the valves.

[@DNomer]

Sounding much better now.

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments

[@RobertE92]

The most interesting engine rebuild series I have ever seen. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a video with so many views and not 1 single dislike! That says everything about the quality of Steve’s videos!

[@D3Sshooter]

Thank you and much appreciated

[@filiplastro7318]

I can't describe You how much interesting your videos are 🤩

[@D3Sshooter]

Glad you like them!

[@barriecharmsway8026]

This has been extraordinarily interesting. Thank you Steve

[@D3Sshooter]

Very welcome

[@theprisonernumbersix996]

Superb work. We feel a respect for this engine. Well done and thank you for the videos. " Be Seeing You" !

[@D3Sshooter]

Thank you very much!

[@ChileExpatFamily]

Years ago I worked as a Air freight pilot and flew DC-3 and other radial engine aircraft.
We used COLOR TUNE on those engines to LEAN the engine. They way we did it was to open the pilots window and look out at the exhaust for the engine. When it was light blue we knew we were leaned correctly and then we would put in a little more fuel for cooling the cylinder heads. So it is need to see how you did it. I should say that the exhaust manifold on an aircraft is really short so we could reliably use it. Thanks for the engine work video. Jim in Chile.

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments, Jim, now you make jealous ... flying the Dakota (DC-3)... something I always dreamed about.... All I did was flying a Cesna several years ago ( not mine)... But then lost the license as they changed the medical requirements for pilots.... Color blind prohibited me to fly as I am green-red color blind.... I think they changed it again meanwhile.. I am sure that you miss those old DC-3's

[@ChileExpatFamily]

​@@D3Sshooter Yes the DC-3s or C-47 were fun to fly and I enjoyed it. I also flew the Be-18 and had quite a lot of time in other twin engine aircraft as well as some Turbine time. What is funny is that I went from the U.S. Navy Submarine force (Driving, Diving and navigating) to the opposite side of the spectrum... under water to in the air. I always enjoyed operating any machinery. I think it comes from the years of running my families cattle farm. I was the manager and the janitor. So it covered a wide range of duties. Hahahahahh. .... I do wish I could have honed my skills in Tool and Die and Wood Working, but I only became a do or die type of guy in those areas and I still am doing today.
Love the Channel and your videos. You are much more detailed than I am. Also I like seeing you mess up... it is good to see I am not the only one who messes up. Jim in Chile

[@artemiasalina1860]

Fantastic! It sounds like it's running like new and starts instantly! It also looks great, too.

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments

[@gerin1946]

Steve this engine some years ago ( in Africa) I have seen some of them working perfectly well at 1.800 RPM for centrifugal pumping system !!!

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments, its a citroen traction avant engine... did nt know they had them in Africa

[@whalesong999]

Such good work to witness and good results. That old Peugeot engine looks to be a fine old design as well.

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments

[@jongutwin]

So enjoyable to watch you work! A real milestone for this project; looking forward to more!

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks so much!

[@redceasar]

Nice to see that with every adjustment step you made the engine runs better and better, awesome!!

[@D3Sshooter]

Thank you very much!

[@dquad]

Well done, runs beautifully now. I love the steady stream of fluid coming out the back of it

[@D3Sshooter]

Thank you very much!

[@normmcrae1140]

YAAAY! Old Rusty RUNS! And it runs SO WELL for an old-timer! Now it just needs a body to go around the heart!
So cool to see you use a Color-Tune! I have one and used it to sort out my old XS650 motorcycle when it was being a pain to tune up! It can be SUCH a problem solver, but you rarely hear of them - especially here in Canada or the US.

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments, and yes that CT is handy tool

[@upthedubs1000]

Wow, totally enjoyed that

[@D3Sshooter]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@terryatkinson3182]

I never saw anyone using colour tune before although I have heard of it. Good to see it working

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments, its a good tool to check

[@loloberry5932]

It’s nice to see you taking input and getting better. Some can’t take feedback.

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments, that is also why I share...many of you are experts and I learn that way....

[@markbehr88]

Running very nicely. Looking forward to seeing it go in Old Rusty.

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments

[@sjp52047]

When I built engines, I would try to get a healthy start then "fix" the details. This fine tuning really was interesting. Regards, Solomon.

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments, yes indeed that is also my approach. However I made mistake in the cables here.. the rest was tuned and adjusted as much one can statically

[@jacqueslanoie3103]

Ce moteur roule comme un petit moulin . J'ai hâte de voir Old Rusty en état de marche. Excellent travail :))

[@D3Sshooter]

Merci beaucoup, c'est état un grosse travvaille pour reconstruire le moteur

[@fiatp-gr4pv]

Great work Steve. 11 hp to move 4 tons. I'm intrigued. I'm watching with interest.

[@notajp]

I work on single cylinder lawnmower engines that make twice that HP..........

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments, its actually around 45 HP , the 11CV is fiscal horse power... that was my mistake

[@bolski-uitlaatstore9130]

Running great now.

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments

[@PhG1961]

Wonderfull entertainment.... ik wil nog meer van dit Steve.

[@D3Sshooter]

Hoi Philip, dat komt eraan over tijd,,,, en dat laatste heb ik eigenlijk te weinig ( ik werk nog full-time). Ben jij trouwens uit de streek ? Oudenaarde

[@PhG1961]

@@D3Sshooter Tijd... ik ken da gevoel. Ik werk ook nog full-time én heb nog avondschool....
Ik ben eigenlijk van Brugge maar woon in Beveren-Waas. Oudenaarde en omg. ken ik wel. De Vlaamse ardennen... schitterend decor !

[@sonyhk3824]

Awesome. Thanks Steve, big thumbs-up 👍

[@D3Sshooter]

Very welcome

[@colano1138]

Beautiful sound of this engine. Excellent job!

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments, it does sound nice and hopefully will stay so during its first test rides ( later)

[@johnnorth9355]

Dare I suggest replacing the Solex with a 28/36 Webber downdraught carb to get the fuelling and power right ? :-) . Being serious I suspect they were never as good out of the factory as yours is now. Built with care and love and an attention to detail. Great work.

[@D3Sshooter]

Thank for the comments

[@PCashie]

I think you have nailed it Steve, it sounds spot on to me. cheers 👌

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments Paul

[@bobpercy1]

Another great video Steve, the engine looks and runs better than when it was new I think.

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments Bob

[@XPbIM3]

That's insanely good!

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments

[@rolandgerges3741]

0 Dislikes, damn this man deserves it!

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments

[@scattkiwiman]

indeed that sounds a lot better, thumbs up

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments, it took a bit of tender loving care

[@graemelliott3942]

My French auto shop teacher taught me this: un, trois, quatre, deux. He would sing it all the time!

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments, that is a good song

[@frankbartolo5223]

Well done mate👍

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the visit

[@warci]

never seen that color tune thing before, I need to get me one of those!!!

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments, Do so and its very cheap and handy

[@deopersad2915]

Awesome 👍🏾

[@D3Sshooter]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@chevymarineretired]

Torque is more important in this application than horsepower.

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments, its actually around 45 HP , the 11CV is fiscal horse power... that was my mistake

[@robj2704]

@@D3Sshooter Still, torque is what you want in a heavy vehicle so the engine can get the truck rolling from a standstill and in accelerating up to highway speed. This is the principal used in rating diesel engines that pull a heavy load such as an over-the-road truck (lorry).

[@dolarrekt4224]

@@robj2704 You are right, but because Power = Torque x RPM, you can tell that making 45 HP at 3700 RPM means low torque.
Just for a comparison : a 1.6L NA miata engine makes 45 HP at 2250 RPM, which means it has more torque than this (presumably) heavier truck.

[@suhayl5157]

I love what you did and how you did it. the firing order mistake is a shame; should not have happened.

[@D3Sshooter]

Oh well things do happen when you are tired

[@JonDingle]

Another fine installment young man!

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments

[@CaiPrice]

Sounds lovely, bravo!

[@D3Sshooter]

Many thanks!, it was not that hard to correct the little issues

[@kerrygleeson4409]

Great fix Steve 🇦🇺👍

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments

[@camionu2357]

You mean 11CV Not 11HP, its the 1600ccm or 1911ccm engine? I would guess arround 30-40KW, mine has 1911ccm and arround 42 to 48 KW....

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments, indeed you are correct CV 11 is fiscal Horse power ,, my mistake....while working and talking

[@Spetet]

Love that colortune thing!

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments

[@bobbailey7024]

The firing order for most 4 cylinder engines is 1342 but some are 1243.

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments,

[@vintage76vipergreenBeetle]

👍 sounds nice.

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments, it sounds so sweet even without a muffler

[@richardoloot1295]

tappets ok at that sound?? great stuff

[@nicholasreason8379]

should you have checked the valve settings after you tightened the head down .

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments, yes and no/// Typical it will get less clearance when tightened and one should. I will do it after the engine has run a bit longer , lets say about 100Km

[@milk4]

Great video!

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments

[@thomasdixon3570]

Have you been able to resolve the crankshaft seal leak? I have reworked my Traction Avant crankshaft seal several times with no noticeable improvement. I think the key may be to cut the sealing material perfectly square with exactly .5 mm
extending at each end beyond the retaining shells. It seems some leakage is inevitable.

[@davidsample9130]

Smooth as silk.

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments

[@fredclarijs7370]

loopt weer perfect gefeliciteerd

[@D3Sshooter]

Dank je , kleine fout... dat gebeurd soms

[@kevinroughton3670]

Thought you would have checked the valve clearances after tightening the head. Sounds sweet!

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments, indeed that is what should be done. However the adjustment on the torque was so minor, and the set valve clearance before had ample of play... But a very good remark. I will do it after the first 100Km

[@zpingusu]

Great Vid! What else needs fixing / restoration before Old Rusty is complete?

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments, that is a lot, new brake system, chassis, axels, upholstery... in fact all except the cab

[@JayNguyen-qd7fk]

Color tune adapter with a glass body..very INTERESTING..! Oil filter...lol

[@henryostman5740]

I don't know how HP was calculated in your country but the Model A Ford (1930) made 40 hp with a flathead four that I think is smaller than your engine. I know that the French base the tax on the HP rating so the incentive is to make it small when really it isn't. The 1200 cc engine in the VW made 36 to 40 hp with very little torque, your engine looks more robust than that. My guess is also that your truck is geared so that it goes maybe 45 mph or so with a really low first gear (a stump puller) to get it started.

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments, yes you are right its final horse power CV 11... and about 40 HP if I am not mistaken

[@mikakolari3201]

@@D3Sshooter You can always tune in a bit.

[@andrepienaar6459]

Isn't it necessary to check the valve clearances after torquing the head? The head is now slightly lower down, which shortens the distance from the cam to the rocker arm, which means the gap will now be smaller. Groete uit 'n winderige Kaapstad!

[@D3Sshooter]

Yes indeed, that should be done... Although the change was minimal. I will do this after the first 100Km. Note that the valves have been adjusted before with sufficient play... But yes that is a good observation... TXS

[@brianparkinson1594]

Super!

[@D3Sshooter]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@alanbartlett9523]

Do you ever check the points dwell angle and variance before setting the ignition timing?

[@D3Sshooter]

Thank for the comments, oh yes I do... That was all done in a previous video... Good question...

[@emmajacobs5575]

I guess that 11cv is the cheval fiscal rather than 11 actual horsepower!

[@mohabatkhanmalak1161]

The way the engineers designed this engine was long stroke (that is why max RPM are low) to get more torque. Then the gearbox and final drive ratios are made to give additional torque to move the truck when fully laden. Torque is exchanged for speed. So the max speed will be low (compared to modern trucks), which is fine. The same engine was fitted to the DS9 car, and there the gearbox reduced the torque for speed. Very interesting how machines are designed.

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments, its actually around 45 HP , the 11CV is fiscal horse power... that was my mistake

[@scottglover6100]

Brilliant 👍

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments

[@PaulHigginbothamSr]

11 hp. Hmmm. What year is this truck,? When it was running with cylinders three and 4 reversed one could instantly tell it was wrong. I have however heard engines before 1914 sound like this but not a 4 cylinder. I am shocked this engine only has 11 hp. The top speed will be less than 25mph. My first motorbike had 5hp and would do 37mph with much less weight.

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments, that was my mistake ... its fiscal horse power

[@camionu2357]

Nice video, by the way...

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the visit

[@thomaswykes3647]

I have found setting the timing with a strobe light is not very effective on old engines due to the tolerances. Listen for pinking and back off the timing until it just stops on full load.

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments, yes indeed and the strobe was just an extra check, the ear is the best tool

[@jinger9980]

On french engines the first cylinder is quite often on the flywheel side! Isn't it the same with your engine?

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments, yes indeed that is the case for the standard Traction Avant. This is the same type of engine but opposite, in fact the TA is an inverse engine

[@ssh5757575757]

Purring like a kitten!

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments

[@danielsweeney6742]

Steve quick question. Have you looked at the transmission? I do not remember you taking a look.

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments,I have not so far.. That is still on the TO DO list... TXS

[@petergriffin3231]

Is carb tuning affected by muffler when one is installed??

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments, yes it is... the exhaust is an importend part on a tuned engine... But not on this old engine.

[@mikedoblo4782]

you could pull a truck with a lawnmower if its geared right it just wont be fast

[@mohabatkhanmalak1161]

Who was it that said (in ancient Greece)...."Give me a place to stand, and I will lift the world".

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments

[@tasnikas746]

@@mohabatkhanmalak1161 That was said by Archimedes

[@robertphillips8829]

@@tasnikas746 , Think it was Atlas.

[@jasonchicoine4282]

Is ole rusty done? I have seen any vids in a while

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments, not at all, it was put aside for reasons of availability of parts and the need for an outside blast job, yet it was winter so it had to wait. Soon more

[@nichflint4717]

How old is the engine of old rusty? 11 horse power, it's depend on the gear ratio......I guess. Once again well done

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments Flint, its 11 fiscal HP ( that was my mistake) It develops around 45-50 HP.... from the year 1939

[@mikakolari3201]

Just out of curiosity, what kind of oil do you use in that engine?

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments, look at the oil can where I placed the fuel in ... That is Castrol Classic.... so far I have used that on all my old timers

[@elmolino2239]

Any chance of an upgrade about Old Rusty?

[@D3Sshooter]

Coming soon as the work is going to continiue

[@elmolino2239]

@@D3Sshooter Thanks Steve, been following you for years, and keep waiting for updates on Old Rusty (and the 1929 Peugeot). I appreciate all your brilliant sports car and tower construction work, but I also love old French machinery!

[@anandarochisha]

I have mixed up the firing order before, the days get long. It's wonder i am not permanently cross eyed..that's next ..

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments, I guess we all do that sometimes

[@jp-jg6rm]

its french hoursepowers, they had there own way of calculating enginepower (tax hoursepower) check this site www.citroenorigins.co.uk/en/cars/type-23-bus great job btw

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments, correct fiscal HP... That was my mistake

[@MirceaD28]

Music.

[@PatHaskell]

Interesting that how meticulous he is about things down to the electrons and protons that he missed something so simple.

[@MrGouffie]

We miss things, because we don't correct them. Knowing Steve professionally, he never misses things, he just wasn't there yet to correct them. :)

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments, yep that happens..It should not but I know that I am dislexick and just maybe that played a trick on me....1324-1342....anyhow it took only a few minutes to find it and correct it..

[@D3Sshooter]

Thanks for the comments,