Valve Adjustment The Rule of 9
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- Опубліковано 1 тра 2020
- The rule of 9 is sequence is for British built 4 cylinder push rod engines with a firing order of 1-3-4-2 build in the 1960-70 for valve adjustment. It's is really it is really important to know this before carrying out any adjustment using the Rule of 9. If unsure then refer to the manufactures workshop manual
Before I decided to strip this engine, it occurred to me that I could pass on some useful information on a mechanics life hack. Sometimes on engines we only know the feeler gauge gap for the tappet adjustment, but what if we need to adjust the tappets and we don't know the sequence on how to do it because of lack of information. Well the rule of 9 is a handy mechanics life hack to learn
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Awesome video, Steve. I’m 64 years old and been around cars all my life and never heard about the rule of nine. Just used it on my 1991 Nissan Figaro. Your video made it a lot easier. Thanks
Great stuff, I'm glade my video has helped you
Steve, I have owned my 1976 spitfire since 1977 when I joined the RCN as a very junior officer (still serving) I never knew that trick. Thanks for teaching an old commander a new trick.
You're welcome, glade it's helped you with your Spitfire, it's a much easier way to adjust valves
Never heard of the rule of 9, great info was looking to adjust valve clearances on a old tractor I have...........this will make life easy..Thanks
You're welcome, glad it helped 👍
Apart from being very informative, the sound in this video is ace!
Cheers mate, glade you enjoyed it
Hi Steve i just purchased a 1970 MGB ( my first classic). I find your video's very informative for a non mechanic as myself. Great information to give me the confidence to carry out the work myself
Great stuff, glade you are finding them helpful 👍
My first car (a 1963 mini bought as a high mileage wreck in the mid 1970's) went through several scrap yard engines and gearboxes before I found one that was decent. Valve adjustment was a well practiced art at the end and the rule of 9 was a key component as manuals of the day advised. Nowadays there is UA-cam - more skill and knowledge than my brain can absorb - instantly on tap :).
That's so true, I find its good how you can just find out info nowadays with a few clicks
And the rule of 13 applies to 6 cylinders. Great video Steve
Cheers Sean, funnily enough before making the video I was thinking about that, and thought yeah the rule of 13 works on a inline 6 as the crank goes up and down in pairs so 1 and 6, 2 and 5, 3 and 4. But keeping with the 4 cylinders just makes it easier to explain. Cheers for the comment though, hopefully it’ll help somebody with a 6 cylinder. Hope your keeping well, cheers Steve
Indeed I’m doing my indenor Volvo engine 1969 with 6 cylinders so rule of 13 applies ! Thanks guys
Thanks! This is the next job on my Vauxhall 3.3
I have heard of the rule of nine but never understood how it was used or how to actually do it....thanks for sharing....stay healthy mate....see you in the next video
Everyday is a school day!! Say safe and well my friend 👍🏻
Thanks for the lesson Steve.
Cheers David 👍🏻
Thank you Steve! I had never heard this before.
No probs, your welcome!!
It's a fantastic method Steve and I also use a dial test indicator on a mag base for finding the absolute valve down position, just gives that little bit of more accuracy on my Landrover series 2 petrol engine.
Cheers Steve, I just think that although it’s a little slower doing it this way over the way you do it to the manual in pairs, it’s much like you say more accurate, and much easier to remember method. And I like that, using a DTI gauge, now that’s accuracy 👍🏻
Thanks so much! Gonna use this technique on my 1955 Ferguson tractor.
Good stuff, glade it's helped you 👍
Thanks Steve,,, ,hope your keeping well my friend,,,
No probs, cheers Doug. I’m well thanks hope your ok 👍🏻
Was taught this by my dad when I was 13 still use it today. Took it to America and they freaked out.
It's such a simple way to adjust valves without having to think much. And I like that about it 👍
Nice video brother, sooooooooo many people do not know this.
Cheers mate, I thought it would be a good video to make, and great info to share, before I strip that engine for rebuild
It was really helpful thanks
Glad it helped
THANKS FOR THE VIDEO
You're welcome
Thanks for the video. I’m doing my indenor Volvo engine 1969 with 6 cylinders. Rule of 13 applies ! Thanks.
Glad it helped 👍
Thank you steve. I know now rule of 9.
You're welcome 👍
Very helpful
Glad it helped
Thanks mate, credits to you for adjusted the valves on my spit!
No probs, glade it helped you 👍
Just done this on my Mini. Great information thank you! Would it matter if the valves were adjusted hot or cold? Thanks.
Cheers mate, You need to adjust valves when the engine is cold. The reasons for this is that metal expands when it get hot. The clearances given will allow for this expansion. If you adjust when the engine is hot, the engine will sound tappy and run awful. Therefore always adjust when the engine is cold 👍
@@SteveDentonClassics That makes perfect sense to me. However I adjusted mine when it was warm (in my error) and reading into the A series engine that my Mini has you can actually adjust them warm however you take into consideration the gap you are setting them at. So 0.011" instead of 0.012" However i may have to revisit if she sounds tappy when it's cold! As I set them to manufacturers specs. Thanks again.
Thanks 👍
You're welcome 👍
Easy when you know how, thanks,
You're welcome 👍
thank u ! Man!
You're welcome 👍
thankyou verymuch
You're welcome 👍
Thanks for the clear explaination. I've used this but a theoretical question if I may. Do you have to start with one or could you start anywhere providing you still follow the rule of 9? A follow up have you ever used the Gunson ClickAdjust tappet adjuster? I claims to replace feeler guage, spanner and screwdriver with one tool but even watching there video I can't really see how it works.
In theory you can start anywhere using the rule of 9, as it's only using simple maths to add up which one you are checking to which one you are adjusting. It's just easier and less thinking time to start with number one and work your way along the valves 👍
@@SteveDentonClassics thanks for the reply and info.
The gunson tool is simple you put the tool on and turn the handle round to slacken the lock nut, you then twist the plastic bit all the way in untill their is zero clearance and then let's say your clearance is meant to be 0.012", each click equals 0.001" so you wind the plastic knob back 12 clicks giving you 0.012" inch clearance, turn the silver lever back locking the nut off
Thanks for this, very handy! found via google search for "rule of 9" after seeing it on "Andy's MG Adventures" video on adjusting the valves on his 1275 Midget.
You're welcome 👍
Great Video Steve !! Can I ask which action camera you’re using and your thoughts
Very good work ‘
Cheers Phil, I use a number of cameras, such as DSLR's and GoPro. I'm constantly changing them for better ones, but this video was filmed with a GoPro Hero 5 Black, and a Nikkon D550 DSLR 👍
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Cheers Steve
Appreciate that
Thought at least one was the Go pro
I’m getting the 360 Go pro but not sure which one yet just doing research
Masses of it
Coming from a garage business family
You’ve done a great job there !!
Do we first have to set pulley mark for 1 tappet or just go with it
Really you should just go with it. Lining the pulley mark up for number one will see the valves on an overlap, it will only be a few degrees, but won't be as accurate adjustment. It's more accurate to feel valve 12 fully compressed and adjust valve 1, then go from there 👍
Is your cap the Dunbar tartan per chance? Nice video!
It is indeed 👍
I just follow the firing order...
Cheers!
It's a way to do it 👍
I know this might sound a bit daft,but will this work on a Diesel engine.I’m also thinking that the injectors would need to be unbolted?The engine is a 60hp Ford son.Thanks Dave
If the firing order is 1-3-4-2, and it's a 4 cylinder push rod engine, then yes it will work. If in any doubt though, refer the the manufacturers manual for the engine you are working on 👍
@@SteveDentonClassics Thanks for that.It’s in my boat and I’m going out there this morning so I’ll check the firing order and if it’s correct the rule of nine is about to be applied 😁👍
Thanks Steve. Every day is a school day. I did however notice two anomalies. 1. You would NEVER find anything related to motor cars in Mrs.Davey's shed and 2. You would NEVER find anything related to motor cars in Mrs. Davey's garden!! 😂😂😂 Take care and stay safe. And it goes without saying that l obviously knew about the rule of 13! 😨😨😨 NOT!!
Great stuff mate, always making my chuckle!!
does this apply for 1342 and 1324 and other possible firing orders?
It's application is for 1-3-4-2 firing order for most push rod engines. Of course some Fords are 1-2-4-3 so in that case your better off following the manual 👍
Unfortunately, your use of a white coat detracts from clarity of the subject. Otherwise very clear. Well done!
That's just my trade mark white overalls, but thanks 👍