Old Rusty, Part 24 Protecting against rust
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- To all the viewers and commenters, Thank you so much for your massive response. I started to answer each comment... yet that will take forever.. So please accept my apologies for not answers all comments . I would like to thank you all for you responses, I have seen them all.
Soon I will provide my decision... txs again
In this video I am protecting the newly painted cabin against rust, But even more important is my question to you and your answer, as that will determine how Old Rusty will be rebuild.
You have the heart of a teacher and the hands of a craftsman. Make no apologies for sharing the technical side and teaching. Transfer of knowledge is more precious to me as a teacher/instructor myself than gold itself. You are a wonderful teacher/instructor and a truly skilled craftsman!
I'm a big fan of restoring the past, keep it original.
The engine overhaul is the way to go on a vintage vehicle.
make it original. opening the hood and seeing the jewel in the box that is the engine is what i consider to be the icing on the cake. amazing build. keep up the good work.
I have spoken about another you tube channel Mustie1. Mustie uses bar and chain oil to spray all of the under body of a vehicle to prevent rust. Personally I'd like to see the old engine brought back to life. But it is your channel and your truck. It is really your call.
I think you should keep it all as original as you possibly can. I fully understand that it is a lot of work but really very much more satisfying than taking the easyway with electric drive. I hope to see your 35hp engine running one day. Very best of luck. David in Colombia
You are doing a detailed professional work on Old Rusty ! Don't waste it, please ! Keep it original!
I get the issues concerning impact of electric conversion on environment but it is the wave of the future and you can always change back to the original motor. 35 hp can barely get out of its way. 100 hp now the truck can keep up with modern traffic and will be more useful. It’s a truck not a museum piece unless that is what you want. It’s YOUR truck make yourself happy not a bunch of internet viewers. Thanks again for posting your video and sharing with us. Great fun.
Really deserves to be kept original. Of course, fuel will be more difficult to source eventually, but I’d still go for the original engine as doing so will maintain the full value and rarity of the truck. Great series of videos thanks
Thanks for the comments, its going to stay original. Rebuild has already started
Keep it original. Fantastic work you have done. Enjoyed all the videos so far.
Ultimately it's your vehicle and you need to do what you feel comfortable with, I'm just a pure petrol head.
Good luck with your decision.
The electric sounds amazing and I’d love to see the engineering , but maybe on another wagon. Old Rusty is a rare old girl and after all the hard work you’ve done she deserves to be kept original . Amazing channel 👍
TXS for the comments, and I can see your point.
ORIGINAL ENGINE, NO QUESTION. Old Rusty would be worth so much more if you ever decided to sell. Not just that but The Original motor spells Class. GO ORIGINAL MOTOR. PS, New Subscriber‼️👍👍. Vinny 🇺🇸
Please stay original
Terry
old engine is my choice
that stone guard you used is designed to be painted if left unpainted its porous and allows moisture through it
i always cover it in 2 pac black
Original, Only way to go, It is, after all a Classic. Needs to stay a Classic.
Rems61 trouble is an old 40bhp engine isn’t going to be able to keep pace with modern traffic. I Don’t like electric conversion
@@ashleyjames308 You don't put all this effort into a classic vehicle to drive it in everyday traffic. This is for Sunday outings, a trip to the lake or the park, or the occasional classic car meet. Use the crappy old Toyota or such for the traffic.
I am a traditionalist, so I would go with the original truck motor and gearbox - its part of its history
Agreed,keep it traditional. This truck is absolutely a credit to your detailed work.Enjoy it for what it is, goodluck.
I Agree with Guys. please keep it original. the work you have done to date is top notch. don't destroy her heritage.
I vote for keeping it original. Your videos provide tremendous technical content and how-to knowledge which will serve as excellent archive information years from now when electrical vehicles are common place.
Seems most want original. We would love to see the motor rebuild. Most of us do not know how much pollution is caused from making electric motors and batteries and regular charging thereof. You have a beautiful truck, great skills, and keep so many happy with excellent videos. Keeping it original will make it a treasure for the future.
I am almost as old (or as young) as Old Rusty and as I never use an electric bicycle , so Old Rusty must have an original engine.
Keep the good work and be healthy.
Thanks for the comments, it is
There are so many advantages to going electric, I can understand that you're torn. The historic nature of this truck, and the likely ways it would be used, suggest that you go all original. For a car that I drove every day, I would choose electric. This is different, though. I appreciate your thoughtful consideration on this, as well as your exquisite craftsmanship.
Thanks for the comment, indeed. I already started the rebuild of the old engine
I don't think we have gone that far in Canada. Moreover, it is the first time I have came across an aspect of upgrading to an electric power train in the restoration of an old vehicle such as Old Rusty. An electric motor would merge Old Rusty into the 20th Century technical advancements, consideration of emission controls, and take pride and respect of the environment. In addition, an electric motor would be a unique aspect which would increase the truck's value too. A lot of people would consider this a priceless commodity. Of course if you rebuilt the gas engine and transmission to include it with the sale, you would cover both bases.
I'm not in the auto repair business nor am I an auto hobbyist, I do, however, like your videos! Your presentation is very good, even impressive. I am now a subscriber! GW
Thanks for the comments, and txs for becoming subscriber. I try, but do not always succeed...
I'd say keep it original because of the age of the truck... it is a classic after all. I'm not so sure how your differential will hold up to 90 hp also!! Best of luck either way.
No way electric! I don‘t wanna spent any words on pro or con‘s, but this car is a classical one, therefore it has to be original! Never mind it‘s a gas engine! It‘s an Oldie, so for sure no daily driver! Consider this! Good luck and all the best for your restauration - love your Videos! Cheers Willi
It seems the greater majority are voting to keep it as original as possible, and normally that is the way I would want it to go, but I do find myself somewhat torn between the two choices. Perhaps the way to go would be to have an electric motor installation, but make it completely reversible, so that if you want or need to at some future point , you are able to reinstall the original drivetrain, all fully rebuilt of course. Great work Steve, like many other commenters, I really like your attitude to both your work and also your viewers, Thanks for sharing it all with us.
TXS for the comments, and I can see your point. I really need to think it over on which way I want to take this. I am equally torn... Happy to share
You have shown such love and attention to detail to bring old rusty back to life. The charm of a vintage vehicle is to be able to have a RARE look back in time to how things used to be. Electrifying her would be just a Rat rod Bastard and you might as well build a kit car for that. Save the Motor for another project also i think its time for a new name Maybe Xrusty EX Rusty Fo Rusty (formerly rusty)...LOL your a wonderful teacher and videographer keep up the great work.
TXS for the comments, and I can see your point. And indeed you convinced me...txs
Making a choice on the engine is a tough one. It really comes down to your thoughts and feelings about it being 100% original. Personally I would want it to be very functional and up to date, but with it all original it could become a limited driver at some point. I would think long and hard before dismissing electric, as it is no telling what the future holds for emission regulations. Electric doesn't do justice to the truck, but functionality has it's place too. I see a lot of recent roadster restorations on late model engine and chassis combinations, just because of emissions and parts availability. Most of these are driven almost daily, so it will depend a lot on what your plans are for the truck. Good luck!
Old Rusty deserves to be restored to his original status, polititions create more Greenhouse gas than
old Rusty ever will, keep the great work up
All the best from NZ.
TXS for the comments, and I can see your point.
Go with the engine re-build, up-grade the ignition system with electronic add an alternator, also to help the emissions, a modern carb. If you need to re-build the engine, up-grade it, possible over bore, better manifolds etc. you are doing a superb job, dont waste it with electric motors
You have given me so many ideas and considerations for restoring my father's 1979 F250 4x4 ,-- I like the electric motor idea!
A difficult dilemma. I would opt for the gasoline engine, even if acquiring the parts were somewhat troublesome. If you wish to upgrade the power and have recharging facilities one hand & readily available where you plan to use the U23, spring for the electric motor. With electric power you will have an ironic show piece. Not only will the others marvel at the truck, but be surprised by electric power on board.
Do both! Nothing wrong with a modern solution for modern times, with the original setup being repaired and restored if you wish to install it
Evening Steve. Never apologise on your channel as it’s fantastic as we need to know what your doing even the not so glamorous bit’s lol 😄 Electric is a fantastic idea but maybe for another project 😄 Old Rusty needs to be 100% original please 👍🏻 Can you put his name back on too 🤣 Thanks a million Stevie 😎🇬🇧
Such a classic truck restored to perfection! It would be nice with the original restored engine. Electric is a novelty and won't have the Chitty Chitty sound and feel. Electric could be stupid fast. Ultimately it's your game to play the way you want, either way I'll enjoy watching it. You did such a nice job on the cab, the rest will shurly be awesome!
Both options are cool. Personally would love to watch you explain and install the electric motor. Whichever way you go will be done well I'm sure. Cheers
You should go with a complete overhaul of the original engine. Keep it original.
Tesla, this truck was lost, you restored it back to its old beauty, so this modern touch would made it stand out of all other old timers. Classic at first sight in all its glory, modern inside, shutting up all green boys you will have over you in the classic setup.
Stay original! Its a lot more work but there is history in that truck so keep it as original as possible.
Depends... Is your preference a full and accurate restoration or a street rod type build?
It's your baby! Given the love you've show it already, I'm sure it will be a fine vehicle either way.
Thanks for the comments, yep its going to be a rebuild
I would like to see the original motor overhaul. I learn a great deal from your videos. I think if you were planning on using the vehicle for commercial work then I would go for the electric motor set. If you are going to keep it as a vintage collectible then try to keep it original. Wonderful project Keep up the great work
Engine Overhaul 100%. Keep the great videos coming, I really learn a lot. Thank you!
Thanks for the comments, yep that is what we are going to do
Personally I would recommend a Good sound for old rusty 😎
The electric conversion would be cool, but I'd rather see that in another project, because Old rusty deserves to have it's original engine. And I'm wondering if the original gearbox and rear axle would last with the more powerful electric motor🤔 So I think my vote goes for a rebuild of the old engine👍
Go electric old son. Keep the engine, restore it, mount it on a plinth and display it wherever it pleases your eye.
Thanks for the question
TXS for the comments, and I can see your point. I really need to think it over on which way I want to take this.
I think a original is a best way , hello from Croatia!
You are restoring a fine piece of automotive history. If you had a fine watch would you replace the workings with a battery operated motor. I am so impressed by your work on ole rusty, but I got sick to my stomach up when you suggested a Tesla conversion. If you want a golf cart, buy a golf cart.
looks like Im the only one looking forward
Golf cart, lol. Wanna race for pink slips?
@@incognitotorpedo42 You clearly havent seen a Tesla accelerate from a stop in "insane mode"
zero to 60mph in 2.8 seconds and that is not a typo
@@incognitotorpedo42 Sure, but golf carts don't need a pink slips
It's a vintage vehicle so I personally think it should be restored...on the other hand I would really appreciate an electrification video!
I agree with you
I say go electric! user friendly! low maintenance ! Now if it was a 2cv I'd say restore! they were designed to perfection! I enjoy your posts!
I know, but I decided to stick to the old engine as soon all cars will be electric and this one will be an engine from the past
I live with one foot in the past and one in the future. You won't like this answer, but I would totally rebuild the original chassis and drive train, AND update the drive train to modern electric drive so that they could always easily be returned to original. Everyone would be happy and the environment would be happy as well. Regards, Solomon
Anti-Gravel coatings work wonders, but they may also trap moisture underneath them.
I only use it at the places behind and around the wheels, and other places where the rocks are hitting, but not at the whole bottom.
I also prefer oil-based inside coatings rather than wax based, the wax tends to shrink and crack quite fast here in Finland where we have temperatures from +30c to -30c.
Yes , rework the old engine, you’re a hard worker, keep it up!
Thank you for the comments
I prefer all original. One heck of job your doing!
Staying original will add the most value. Good luck.
TXS for the comments, and I can see your point. I really need to think it over on which way I want to take this.
Go with the electrical motor conversion. I actually had a truck that was converted to DC electric motor. I looked forward to driving it every day even with the problems one encounters with old electric vehicles conversions, as opposed to having a high maintenance restored vintage vehicle that you can only use on a limited basis. If you change your mind you still can convert it back to the vintage vehicle. Your not losing any options.
Thanks but to late, i started the rebuild after a long period of doubt
@@D3Sshooter Its a great project either way!
Electric! I love resto mods! We have come a long way with technology, after all this was a efficient power plant at the time, now a days, they would use the best option as well.
I mean it isn't going to have the same purpose, so not like you really need all the pains that come with an old motor!
Thanks for the comments, yes but I started the old smoker rebuild
Be authentic, go big+overhaul..or go home
P.S.
You the man & you can do the job✌
TXS for the comments,
@@D3Sshooter
Thank you sir for your excellent video tutorials and we salute you from Michigan✌
To keep it “original” as most are saying , would only be prudent if the vehicle is inherently of great value, like a vintage Vacel Vega, Ferrari...,but,if not, it would be more environmentally responsible to electrify. With how excellent a teacher you are you might motivate others to do the same.
TXS for the comments, and I can see your point.
Go electric. It will be so much nicer to use....Great milage, and you can drive in cities. Very quiet as well.
Cool old school guy. I like his style.
Thank you for the comments
The name off the truck says it all. OLD rusty, so old smoking engine is the way to go 😁
Although I would love to see you do an electric conversation I think keeping the original motor and drive train is the way to go on this truck.
Its a classic vehicle but I bet if you could ask the same question to Mr Citroen we would take the electric option as well as some modern disc brakes and those swiveling headlights (LED) of course.....Probably Air Con as well. Protect the past but never get stuck in it.
TXS for the comments, and I can see your point. I really need to think it over on which way I want to take this.
I love your videos, they are very informative. For this reason I am sellfish and i would preffer you go with the restoration of the old engine. It is probably easier tehnicaly to put an electric motor and adjacent electrical bits, but think of the andminastrative complications to register the truck in that case. I will watch and enjoy the videos in this case also.
Go electric you kill the integrity of the truck. If the original motor turns out to be a boat anchor get a small block chevy, tons of power and parts are everywhere backed by a turbo 400 trans it look and awesome and perform flawlesly forever! Love you channel keep them videos coming. Also I for one enjoy the rundown before you start working.
TXS for the comments, and I can see your point. I really need to think it over on which way I want to take this.
I didn't see that coming - brilliant idea! this project just went into overdrive..
Electric, with a sensative, reverseable installation and the original powertrain preserved in a box. I think it would be used more, seen more and make more people smile with quiet, simple, powerful electricity deliverng the torque.
Can't wait.
and you have just turned a beautiful antique into an amusement park ride . wtf!
I am a restorer to keep history the way it was, but it also depends on what you are going to use it for and for how long.
TXS for the comments, and I can see your point. I really need to think it over on which way I want to take this. Old Rusty is here to stay and enjoy on a sunny summer day for a short ride... so a gass engine will do
I'd go for electrical if the changes are reversible. You can enjoy your historic car with some modern comfort and, given the size of your farmhouse, may even produce the energy to drive it yourself. All while you try to get parts for the engine and one day you might decide to make it all original again.
IT is a no brainer! The original engine is the only way to go, the electric is a passing fad, when people realise how polluting to is at source, it will die out, the vehicle, being "collection" should not be subjected to emission test, and the very few mile it will cover will not pollute any where as much as a central heating boiler in one month. The cab looks very nice, I hope you do not scratch it when you coat the underside, that is why I always coat the cab with the unit inverted, then when you top coat it will cover any areas that can be seen, but need to be undersealed, the wax in sections is very effective, I always use the Waxoyl products after pre heating them.
Mijn hoofd zegt elektrisch , mijn hart origineel ... ik heb ook met dit dilemma geworsteld. Denk wel aan de moeilijkheid om elektrisch hier te laten keuren in Belgie... de gemakkelijkste manier is zogezegd exporteren naar Duitsland, technische goedkeuring krijgen en daarna terug improteren . Anyway , I like it!
TXS for the comments, and I can see your point. Moet ik even over nadenken
www.tijd.be/sabato/auto/tesla-meets-apple-in-de-oldtimergarage-van-koen-en-toon-schrever/10123969.html
I would say the original engine and gearbox. For me this is the only way to go. I know its alot of work. But think about When you go out to “old not rusty anymore” and turn the key and listen to the engine spinning you are back in time - what a trip.
TXS for the comments, and I can see your point.
Im combustion engin man, but I prefer biofuels. Bio gas conversion if Old Rusty is with old engine, would be nice. Or gas-electric hybrid would be also nice, my current dream powerline. But oddly, now I wote for electric. Its either full restoration into original, or creating something new.
Go electric - easier on the build, easier to maintain, more hp, can be driven anywhere... then it's a resto-mod! Really great project - learning a lot about body restoration. Thank you!
Install a Ford flathead I have seen pictures with them installed. The French used a lot Flatheads in their trucks. I also hope you install modern brakes, duel master cyl. The works.
Allereerst wil ik mijn complimenten geven voor het werk wat u heeft gedaan aan old Rusty. Fenomenaal!! Ook de kwaliteit van de video's is uitmuntend.
Voor wat betreft de keuze orgineel of electrisch, zou ik voor de orginele motor gaan
MVg J.P. Laan
Beste Job, bedankt voor het commentaar, en ik ben reeds begonnen aan de heropbouw van de oude motor... groet
now that is a question..and my question to you is what do you want to do with this vehicle..a daily/weekly driver? car shows? chores? either way it will be eclectic..personally, i would love to hear some rumble coming from this ol' timer..and am sure it would dig a heart transplant..so i say mechanical..will enjoy the project either way but this truck was born with moving parts and needs to retain that..thanks for asking..
Steve,
I'm older than old Rusty - I don't want a heart transplant and nor does he - sorry , but you have to do the work on the engine and gearbox. Use modern accessories
if you can but keep all the originals.
I'll keep watching with admiration and a little envy
Bill
TXS for the comments, and I can see your point. I really need to think it over on which way I want to take this.
A new Engine with CNG or LPG is a alternative Option, and 1000 x better than an elektric Motor !
Batteries are bad for the Nature !
Sorry for my bad English 😇🤗
Greetings from the Swabian Mountains as Dornstadt a little Town near Ulm 👋👋👋👋
Holger
Do it, go electric. It can always be changed back. Thanks for the videos.
TXS for the comments, and I can see your point. I really need to think it over on which way I want to take this.
It is your truck and it would still be cool with the electric engine but I would enjoy seeing the overhaul as long as your the one paying for it.
Thanks for the comments, that overhaul has started ...
There is not much point in keeping it original if it then has to sit in the garage because of the emissions laws. If you can do the conversion with out altering any of the structure and then have a truck that you can use and in joy then why not. The original engine can always be installed later if you change your mind. Thanks for the great videos.
TXS for the comments, and I can see your point. I see a 50/50 ratio at this moment. Need to sleep over it and I still have a bit of time.... My pleasure
Origineel houden en later appart een project met elektrificatie van bv een quat (leuk om in stad boodschappen te doen 😊 )
Please keep it all original as possible we all would like to see your hand work
TXS for the comments, and I can see your point. I really need to think it over on which way I want to take this. But it seems that I am leaning over towards the gasser
Another very instructive video on protecting body panels from rust. I am curious about that funny-looking spray gun that you used to spatter the undercoating. I have not seen such a thing before. Re: the engine, I would vote for a third choice: a modest diesel engine with a truck transmission, used but in good shape. It might require modest rework (e.g. clean the injectors), and it would require custom metal work for motor mounts, but it would be consistent with such a truck and would be quite reliable for many years. Trucks conventionally use diesel engines these days. You could get a used diesel engine of maybe 50 to 100 hp. It would be instructive in a new area for people to learn about diesels. If you put in the electric motor, there is little to teach. Re: the old engine, it is really old and problematic to get parts, plus there is no developed parts market for those old Citroen engines, I will bet. You might even have to manufacture some parts for that old relic engine. That is sometimes done, but it is quite time consuming, and gets into other areas that most folks cannot approach -- casting and machining parts. By way of comparison, where I live in Northern California, there are very many older guys who get an old jalopy and fix it up, but few of those keep the original engine. The great majority of the really old cars have completely upgraded engines and drive trains, such as 350 Chevy engines spruced up with nice chrome parts, a nice radiator, etc. and plenty of power, which is transmitted through an upgraded drive train. That is the most popular formula which we see at car shows here in California.
TXS Dennis, I need to think about it. I still have some time and txs for the time to write
@@D3Sshooter Some commenters talk about the 'soul' of this old truck. In my view, YOU are the 'soul' of this restoration. For example, the paint that you use did not exist when this truck was originally manufactured. The undercoating and rust prevention that you use is better than what they had back then. Likely the upholstery you use will be something that did not exist back in the day. These people who say 'go original' on the engine -- how many of them have any idea what that might entail? If you go original, it will be mostly a 'show' car, that gets trailered to events. The original engine is gutless, temperamental on cold starts, not clean burning, not robust and long lived, etc. In its day it was OK. Nowadays there are quite a few options. So even though you have 'crowd-sourced' some opinions, and many people want to see you overhaul an engine (which is good), I say -- be true to your own interest and creative intent. You are a real artist, with lots of skills. All of us see that. Only the commercial, low level craftsmen do what 'sells'. The real artists create something inspiring, with a special appeal, which comes from the inner source of the artist. Be an artist! We love you regardless.
Reluctant I vote for original, I do see a lot of advantages of going electric but I would like to hear that original engine purring under the hood. A tough decision I don’t envy you.
Thanks for the comments, ist going to stay original. the rebuild has already started ... several video's on the channel of it
It's not a daily driver. It has the best body of any comparable truck, like new! Better than new! The restoration work you have done so far is superb, so why make such a rarity the same as a Zelectric Beetle? Electrify something there are millions of.
TXS for the comments, and I can see your point. I
Het mooist is om hem origineel te houden
I vote to keep Ole Rusty as original as possible that way the value will only appreciate, overhaul the old engine, transmission, and starter motor, save the Tesla motor for a kit car or something new where they belong.
No question, it is an oldtimer, and we need many more parts from your videos...!
Original engine for an original truck!
I don't know I've been watching you and all the pride you take into doing that cab and just the way you work I think it would be an insult if you put an electrical motor in there I think you've gone so far you might as well go all the way but this is not my time it's your time it's also not my money it's your money and it's your hard work I think that if you kept it original I think that's what you want to do if I was capable of doing it not that I am but if I would be able to do it I would keep it all of it you but like I said it's not my money or my time
Do both and change to whatever you want .But without any structural mods. Make fitting brackets to fit oridginal set up.
TXS for the comments, and I can see your point. I really need to think it over on which way I want to take this.
Definitely go with the old engine restoration, you did all that work for the cabin so the engine shouldn't be a big deal. If you want more power out of that engine that can be solved with a turbo and more fuel.
I use fish oil as wax will only protect new steel , fish oil seeps through the lap joints and stops rust , but is messy applying it. In the end it is your truck use which engine makes sense to you
It depends on the future use of the car. With lots of mileage or much city drive, I’d go electric. Otherwise maintain original driveline.
TXS for the comments, and I can see your point. In my case its a very occasional ride on a sunny summers day
If you go electric it will lose its soul.
Slant six from a Dodge running on propane!! You can place the tank on the back of the cab. Propane runs much cleaner than gasoline or diesel. Perhaps find an old forklift that has a fresher block. Here in Canada we would try to figure a way to slip an old Chevrolet 6 cylinder or small block Chevy in that truck:)!
Thanks for the comments
I really like vintage things, but i go for electrical motor!
Thanks for the comments, to late I started the engine rebuild
Keep original love your videos
It would be a shame to spoil such a great build on an
electric motor , keep it original and keep up the great job your doing
TXS for the comments, and I can see your point.
nice colour and nice job. It would be a pitty to go electric. Unless you plan to use it a lot. I wouldn't care about environment for a truck you maybe will drive 5000kms a year ? A lot of problems for homologation in Belgium ? Unless you enjoy the challenge. I would go for petrol with full electronic injection.
I think better putting another engine in it. That is allowed for oldtimers in B, no ? I think electric sounds easier than it is. What about vacuum brake assist ?
I know there is a guy in Belgium that passed homologation for converting a Mazda MX5 into electric. Maybe he can help?