THIS TINY VR BLOWS MY MIND! - Bigscreen Beyond

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  • Опубліковано 3 лют 2025

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  • @spaceghostcqc2137
    @spaceghostcqc2137 Рік тому +48

    Seeing previews of headsets with huge FOVs with small optical elements gives me hope that a BSB style headset with 120 degrees or more will be incoming in the next couple of years. Hopefully in time for the 5xxx series of gpus.

  • @DrivenKeys
    @DrivenKeys Рік тому +95

    This is exciting for vr in general. The size of the headset can be a big deterrent for a lot of people, plus all the adjustments. Very nice coverage, answered all my questions. I'm interested to see how long they last before any failures.

    • @ChrisPBacon9
      @ChrisPBacon9 Рік тому +1

      Yeah i ended up hating my HP reverb because it felt so heavy that i hardly moved my head while sim racing, kinda defeating the purpose of it

    • @thenonexistinghero
      @thenonexistinghero Рік тому +2

      @@ChrisPBacon9 I replaced my Reverb G2 with a Pico 4 because it felt too heavy. Front shaked too much. And the cable was a nightmare.
      I think this Bigscreen Beyond is just too expensive. Specs are pretty impressive for sure, but there's some pretty major downsides even other than the high price. I think rather than pushing specs, PC VR headsset makers should be pushing for the best specs they can make in an affordable headset that can be bought for no more than $500. Maybe up to $600-$700 for a premium version of it. Have it come with everything it needs like controllers so that people aren't forced to buy extra stuff to get a halfway decent experience. It's pretty much an unfilled hole in the market. Can't say I understand why no one even seems to bother trying to go for it.

    • @droid806
      @droid806 Рік тому

      One grand?

    • @mementomori4972
      @mementomori4972 Рік тому

      You know what else can be a big deterrent factor for a lot of people? The price. If you have some DIY skills, you can build a pretty decent and complete sim rig for the money that this thing costs with all the accessories to make it work . 20NM DIY MIGE direct drive wheelbase. Sim Jack pedals with Heusinkveld upgrade kit. DIY Aluminum profile frame. used Occulus Rift S. Used seat and a steering wheel of your choice up to $250.

  • @angrybeaver6667
    @angrybeaver6667 Рік тому +8

    I appreciate the very thorough impression you gave here. I am also a dad with very little time to game and this is a big reason why I wanted a native steamvr headset to replace my index.

  • @beauhadz2152
    @beauhadz2152 Рік тому

    Thanks!

  • @grasstreefarmer
    @grasstreefarmer Рік тому +33

    Its great to see new players entering the scene. The custome sizing is not for me but I'll look forward to their next one maybe if its a bit more universal. The rest of it looks perfect. I have zero interest in wireless and self powered models that seem to be the trend because I couldn't care less about beatsabre or vr chat. I just want the best quality for seated VR for flight and driving sims.
    It seems like too many manufacturers are trying to make these things be the next big thing that will replace phones or laptops but that's a highly dubious future in my opinion.

    • @simonolsen9995
      @simonolsen9995 Рік тому +1

      💯

    • @voongnz
      @voongnz Рік тому +1

      Yep I like it but quality is all I want now. For me I'm done getting headsets until we get atleast 60ppd and 120⁰fov and decent framerate. It's headed that way but still years away from an affordable unit. I don't care about size too much or having a cable, as I'm a seated sim guy.

    • @briannormant3622
      @briannormant3622 Рік тому +3

      ​@@voongnzI do care about size and weight quite a lot actually. I play a lot of air combat games and Having your headset Flying across your face because you moved too quickly is a big deal breaker for me.
      For the rest I agree, I don't care about VR chat, Eyes tracking and whatnots.
      I want a headset that does one thing and does it well. And the beyond is currently the only thing I comed across that fills my needs perfectly.

    • @madfeldor
      @madfeldor Рік тому

      Depends but as you said, it is great to see new players entering.... and I have used bigscreen application on Steam with my old VR HTC Vive system, so I was kinda, happy to see "they" actually go to have the hardware also soon available. Interesting times I would say. Cheers...

  • @CurtisHuffman-cj5qm
    @CurtisHuffman-cj5qm Рік тому +4

    Transparent, communicative, honest, thorough. Amazing review.

  • @Woopass90
    @Woopass90 Рік тому +71

    The prescription lenses are available for $79US plus shipping.

    • @lordomacron3719
      @lordomacron3719 Рік тому +2

      Really?
      As someone who wears glasses I have avoided VR as it is very uncomfortable and simply could not wear them for long enough to be viable for me at least.
      Never knew they could make prescription lenses. I wonder if there available in the UK as well?

    • @Woopass90
      @Woopass90 Рік тому

      @@lordomacron3719 they ship world wide

    • @briannormant3622
      @briannormant3622 Рік тому

      ​@@lordomacron3719yes world wide. But for order outside of USA, you'll have to wait until Q4.

    • @BunkerSquirrel
      @BunkerSquirrel Рік тому

      @@lordomacron3719there have been third party ones you could buy for the Index but they’re a bit lackluster. The implementation on the Beyond looks proper delightful though. They clearly designed these from the ground up with this in mind ❤

    • @fettuccine723
      @fettuccine723 Рік тому

      @@lordomacron3719 they make them for every headset third-party, I’ve had quite a number of headsets that I’ve had VR lenses for, shop around definitely don’t buy the first ones that you see, but I would definitely go first party if I could so I’m glad that big screen is doing it themselves instead of relying on the third-party is being able to fill that void

  • @eeeeyuke
    @eeeeyuke Рік тому +11

    I'm a 3D Blu Ray enthusiast and have been intrigued by VR cinema and its 3D playback abilities. I've been trying to get the home theater tech guys to start reviewing VR since terms like OLED and refresh rate are considered. They haven't bitten, but I'm very glad to see they get your stringent seal of approval for gaming. Make sure you see a 3D movie like Avatar 2 or Pacific Rim on those BigScreen Beyond glasses. You won't be disappointed.

    • @DDuck777
      @DDuck777 Рік тому

      Isn't watching a movie in VR just 2d, the environment is 3d but the actual movie on the screen is 2d?

    • @justpostedagain
      @justpostedagain Рік тому +7

      ​@@DDuck777It's like seeing a 3D film in the cinema. So yes it is protected on a flat screen, but there are 3D effects. And in VR those effects aren't compromised by the quality of the glasses they give you at the cinema.
      I use my VR headset for watching films as much as playing games. It's your own personal cinema. Screen as big as you like. You can watch films you missed in the cinema and get that cinematic experience. Too young to have seen Godfather or Star Wars in the cinema? Too busy to catch Avatar? Well now you can!

    • @DDuck777
      @DDuck777 Рік тому

      @@justpostedagain Thanks I need to give it a try.😎

    • @eeeeyuke
      @eeeeyuke Рік тому +1

      @@DDuck777 you really do. It's a game changer.

    • @justpostedagain
      @justpostedagain Рік тому

      @@DDuck777 Quest 2 is all you need, by the way. $1500 headset is not needed and it's nice not to need a wire like with the Bigscreen. My Quest 2 is my portable cinema that I take on holiday.

  • @Granar.
    @Granar. Рік тому +21

    Great review Will! I think the bit for me that says it all is the fact that you raced for three hours and made yourself stop vs only managing 45 minutes in other headsets. You can have the best visuals and features in the world but it's not much good if you don't enjoy using the device..!
    Just a note on the resale prospects of the Beyond - Bigscreen will be making face gaskets available for sale as a separate item. So you'd just be buying/selling the device with it's fixed IPD which is no different to a pair of shoes for example. You find your size, you buy your size.

  • @tgiencke
    @tgiencke Рік тому +1

    Finally!!! A VR headset that is lighter than my original Oculus Rift CV1. I do 3 to 6 hour endurances (with LFM) in VR, so weight is why I still use the CV1.

  • @MJoStriker
    @MJoStriker Рік тому +7

    Big step forward to making these more compact. Can't wait for the days where it's effectively a pair of sunglasses.

  • @Zzues
    @Zzues Рік тому +11

    The Bigscreen application itself has always blown me away. So fun watching movies and shows with other people in a huge movie theater in VR. Definitely check it out, if you like that sort of thing.

    • @JonIceInternational
      @JonIceInternational Рік тому

      Except when it doesn't work for some reason and the guy says it is not working because you've been banned, which he did multiple times, even tho the person never had an account before. He even stated to a few guys on reddit that they don't have a ban , but they still can't use the software. Genius. Can't figure out his own software and says people are banned... but can't explain why they are banned.

    • @Zzues
      @Zzues Рік тому +2

      @JonIceInternational Hmm, that sucks, never had an issue with mine over the years I've used it.

  • @JC-vc7tf
    @JC-vc7tf Рік тому +3

    I'm really glad you got your hands on this headset!

  • @imromano2448
    @imromano2448 Рік тому +61

    I bought a valve Index exclusively for sim racing, and I hated how heavy and uncomfrotable it was, also, how annoying it was to have to adjust it middle race if you lost the sweetspot. Something in a small package with high resolution and refresh rate is what I'm waiting for. This is def a step in the right direction XD

    • @edwardblom4201
      @edwardblom4201 Рік тому +8

      I bought oculus quest 2 for my son and tried it on the rig, ever since then I’ve refused to put it back on again. But this is definitely starting to look interesting even for me!

    • @lacedchemist1295
      @lacedchemist1295 Рік тому

      ​@@edwardblom4201why didn't you like the quest 2?

    • @Eskoxo
      @Eskoxo Рік тому +4

      well if you found index uncomfortable then the rest of headsets out on the market would probably be even worse lol besides bigscreen beyond

    • @edwardblom4201
      @edwardblom4201 Рік тому +7

      @@lacedchemist1295 ​ I couldn't make it feel comfortable, and it was too blurry for me. Hard to really put my words on exact what I disliked with it, but I prefer my triples far more than the Oculus... but with that being said, I still understand where the people shouting for VR coming from, because it is for sure a great experience, if only it was a little sharper and more comfortable I would be interested. But I also like to see my hands, the buttons on my steering wheel etc.

    • @imromano2448
      @imromano2448 Рік тому

      @@Eskoxo yep. I decided VR is just not here yet. Still early technology.

  • @eedoamitay3341
    @eedoamitay3341 Рік тому +3

    That screen door vfx shot was a nice touch when you were talking about that, nice : )

    • @ReavoEnd
      @ReavoEnd Рік тому

      I agree, even though the whole time it was triggering my OCD. I was like "OK, he's made his point so it's gonna go away now, right? ... Please?? OH GOD PUT THE SDE AWAY AAAAA"

  • @johnmann7o2
    @johnmann7o2 Рік тому +11

    This with a motion sim/bass shaker is as close to real life you can get. You should do a video with your motion rig and this impressions.

  • @ursinesaturn6723
    @ursinesaturn6723 Рік тому +3

    Been waiting for this! 😊

  • @JamieHamelSmith
    @JamieHamelSmith Рік тому +1

    This is brilliant! …to hear a sim racer’s perspective. I preordered one months ago (I am usually very against preordering as a concept) and it’s reassuring to see that your impressions align with the other early previews from Tested, thrillseeker, etc.
    It’s also great to hear that it’s plug and play and works fine with iRacing out of the box.
    Bigscreen previously assured us that it does work with iRacing OOTB, but it’s good to see real-world verification of this; I reckon you are the first to upload footage of this headset working in iRacing instead of ACC.
    As a Valve Index user my aching neck muscles can’t wait to try this headset.

  • @EzzraOG
    @EzzraOG Рік тому

    .I know its unrelated to the 'sim racing' topic but I must say over the years, I love your choice of DnB! top notch!

  • @Zanaga2
    @Zanaga2 Рік тому +7

    Simracing in sunglasses 😎

  • @Skynexstar
    @Skynexstar Рік тому +4

    this is crazy cool.
    WAY outside my budget, not even close. But I'm excited for small VR tech to break into the market and (hopefully) get cheaper

    • @bartvy
      @bartvy Рік тому

      If you own a ps5 the PSVR2 works amazing on GT7. Both systems together are still cheaper than this headset alone. Limited, but great alternative.

    • @Skynexstar
      @Skynexstar Рік тому

      @@bartvy yes I definitely looked into that, but I've built my pc up so I can't justify buying a ps5 just for one game.
      I'm hoping the new forza motorsport gameplay is atleast on the same level as gt7. It likely won't get vr support but as long as the game is good im happy lol

  • @heavygeevr
    @heavygeevr Рік тому +6

    They are gonna sell custom gaskets for subsequent buyers, so within the margin of a cpl mm above or below your particular headsets fixed IPD, you can *absolutely* resell this. Like shoes, the more mainstream your size on the IPD bell curve, the more folks your headset can fit. That said, I intend to use this until it breaks - Index was the go to for ... 4 years?

  • @MaleficRacing
    @MaleficRacing Рік тому +12

    As someone who runs endurance racing in a G2, I love this product, but man, that price…
    And the price only increases as I don’t have any lighthouses….

    • @caseyrybak
      @caseyrybak Рік тому +2

      600$ extra for just like 2 base stations and controllers which are needed to be able to do the setup right? I don't know why it requires base stations just for head tracking.

    • @44dri44n
      @44dri44n Рік тому +1

      @@caseyrybak I already own an Index so I have everything and haven't tried to skip setup without using controllers, but I think you can get away with just 1 base station (I've played Sim racing sometimes with just one powered on, no issues) and no controllers if you want to use it exclusively for simracing.

    • @victormaniaci2104
      @victormaniaci2104 Рік тому +3

      @@caseyrybak Headsets that track themselves have cameras on them. The Bigscreen Beyond has sensors that the lighthouses can see, then the computer uses that info for tracking. The sensors on their own are not capable of tracking themselves.

    • @glitchinthematrix9306
      @glitchinthematrix9306 Рік тому

      @@victormaniaci2104 That put the price right at pimax crystal territory to be honest....

  • @zerh69
    @zerh69 Рік тому +1

    that onboard audio sounds incredible.

  • @ewsimracing
    @ewsimracing Рік тому +5

    Awesome review. This is a VR set to be on the lookout for. Seem like its suitable just for SIM Racers. Thank you for the awesome review!

    • @victormaniaci2104
      @victormaniaci2104 Рік тому +2

      It is designed to be a drop in replacement for the index. So you can do any VR with this.

    • @markkovalcson7243
      @markkovalcson7243 Рік тому +4

      It will be ultimate headset for room scale when you are in fps games and whipping your head around. The lack of weight will be a HUGE deal for that. My Aero is always moving around my face. It's very sharp, but it's frequently moving on my face and that is very distracting. Having a headset that I forget I'm wearing will be a huge immersion boost.
      And for Rally combined with my motion system, I will love having a headset that stays put.

  • @hunterlewis182
    @hunterlewis182 Рік тому +3

    Hey will, I think they should make the molds for the face sold separately where you can get a scan made and buy just the mold. For example if my girlfriend wants to play as much as me we could have two molds and switch them when she would want to play. This would make it more versatile

    • @markkovalcson7243
      @markkovalcson7243 Рік тому +1

      They are planning to add that ability after they start shipping.

    • @ytubeanon
      @ytubeanon Рік тому +1

      the issue is in addition to custom masks, they customize to your specific pupil distance, the reviewer said other people tried his and it was blurry

  • @spiralmoment
    @spiralmoment Рік тому

    this is the first vr headset that starts to look like something i would want.

  • @derp195
    @derp195 Рік тому

    I was hesitant to get this - a bit pricey and there’s a 2-3 month lead time, but this confirmed it’s the right decision. Can’t wait!

  • @jase3d1
    @jase3d1 Рік тому +6

    im so happy you like it which is a relieve as I pre-ordered it a few weeks ago after using a Valve index for 4 years. great review thank you.

    • @Wiserone123
      @Wiserone123 11 місяців тому

      Alright talk to me. How is it?

    • @jase3d1
      @jase3d1 11 місяців тому

      @@Wiserone123 recently I change my triple 32s to triple 55s and it's been so amazingly immersive as the bigscreen beyond took so long to be delivered.. I only got the Bigscreen 2 days ago in Sydney Australia. It's definitely extremely sharp but I think it has quite a small sweet spot and not the brightest. You can turn it up to 150% and is much better. FOV is much more narrow then the index and kinda feels like you're looking through a helmet ... I think I've now been spoilt by the big 55inch TVs being so bright and the view being beyond 180 degree. Im going use it for a little bit and decide if I really want to keep them. I think the main problems I have is the FOV and the small sweet spot.

  • @94nolo
    @94nolo Рік тому +1

    Wow. We're entering such a rich era of affordable insane immersion.

  • @matthewjames4268
    @matthewjames4268 Рік тому

    Definitely something I'd be looking at. Traditional big VR hurts my eyes and gives me headaches.

  • @garytebbenham6843
    @garytebbenham6843 Рік тому +14

    There’s a lot of good things being said about this HMD from VR content creators who have had early access. I think the Quest3 will be the best affordable all rounder, if you don’t only sim race, but to have an OLED based PCVR headset that’s this light that connects to the display port is going to be a whole lot better than the Quest3, especially for sim racing or flight sims. It’s seriously tempting because it is so unique and doesn’t follow the trend.

  • @DarkNsaw
    @DarkNsaw Рік тому +1

    this is exactly what i need as i wear glasses and no one sims in my house but me!

  • @galacticmonkeh965
    @galacticmonkeh965 Рік тому

    Great review. We have about the same problems when it comes to VR so I really appreciate it.

  • @craiggallagher4461
    @craiggallagher4461 Рік тому

    Nice addition of the screen door affect to your actual video while talking about it 😂

  • @markkovalcson7243
    @markkovalcson7243 Рік тому +2

    Looking forward to getting mine in September and very much hope I have the same reaction as you did!
    I have an Aero now which looks great, but it is heavy and does move around on me in Rally with my motion system.

  • @lanceobe6801
    @lanceobe6801 Рік тому

    I'm still rocking a Vive pro simply because of the wireless adapter. It is such a game changer and if this headset gets a wireless adapter I'm all over it. Once you've been wireless for a bit, it was very difficult to go back to pulling a cable around.

  • @morbid1.
    @morbid1. Рік тому +11

    eye tracking and fov rendering is a MUST imo... it is such a big boost to performance and lowers cost of PC requirements

    • @markkovalcson7243
      @markkovalcson7243 Рік тому +2

      I think Bigscreen Beyond did something better.
      What they did was work with Valve so that their headset has native support and doesn't require the extra overhead of compositor that adds latency. Doing that makes it more efficient in all titles out of the box without configuring anything extra.
      The Vive, Crystal, Aero, etc all have a custom compositor. The BSB runs natively like an Index.
      The main problem with dynamic foveated rendering is that it requires a custom hook to be written between OpenXR and the native SDK of each headset for every title. There is a guy who is giving of his time to do this and we all appreciate his efforts. But the fact remains that this feature only works for a few titles. For the titles that do have support you have to download a separate plugin for each title that you have to install and then configure assuming it exists. I've done this for my Aero and it is doable, but only for a few titles that are supported and it is an extra piece of software to periodically update.

    • @charzy11
      @charzy11 Рік тому +1

      ‘IF’ the micro Oled 75hz genuinely feels like 90 hz , as many reviewers are saying , then this will offset the lack of dynamic foviated rendering.

    • @markkovalcson7243
      @markkovalcson7243 Рік тому +1

      @@charzy11 The reason you hear that is because the microOLED response time is about 0.1ms vs. 1.5ms. I've heard that 75 feels like 90 comment from a few people now, but will need to see it for myself.

  • @SalvatoreIovene
    @SalvatoreIovene Рік тому

    I wonder if I would be happy with the BigScreen Beyond. I've used the Reverb G2 for 3 months, and then I switched to triples. The reasons I switched were:
    • ⁠After a session with the G2, I'd always come out of it feeling dazed like I just woke up (however, I run 27s just behind the wheel, and it's only a little bit better, so it might be the adrenaline of racing).
    • ⁠I hated that I often needed to take it on and off. Not all the time, but often enough, even tho I used vocal commands to show the desktop in VR so I could interact with it that way.
    • ⁠Even with an RTX4090 and an i7, I needed to do a lot of tweaking with the graphics and do some compromizes, like lowering some settings, and the most annoying thing was the aliasing.
    Reasons I'm happy with the triples now include:
    • ⁠Easier and faster to start the computer and get driving
    • ⁠After the initial "everything is flat" shock, I adjusted quickly and even tho the stereoscopic vision of VR is amazing, your brain adapts to the flat world.
    • ⁠I don't need to get the headset on and off
    • ⁠I can max out the graphics with my triple 1440p screens, and it looks AMAZING
    Now, with the BigScreen Beyond, I feel that the following things will change or will not change:
    • ⁠I'll still need to get it on and off, but now with the added complexity of having to get my over-the-head headphones on and off too
    • ⁠I'll probably still feel dazed, but not so much (because it's a lot lighter and I assume it doesn't get as warm)
    • ⁠I'll still need to lower the graphics, but hopefully the aliasing won't be as bad due to the higher PPD compared to the G2?
    Will, would you mind sharing your thoughts? I know you're busy but you're one of the most qualified people to share an opinion on this. Thanks!

  • @carwerks101
    @carwerks101 Рік тому

    Before I sold off all of my SIM stuff I solely ran the reverb, I believe that all the problems I had and how hot is ran made it super easy to give up and sell everything.

  • @Rashomon20s
    @Rashomon20s Рік тому

    Imagine. A stand-alone PCVR-level headset of this size. -Impossible but I want this.

  • @theopolisIII
    @theopolisIII Рік тому

    oouuuweeee that's a nice looking headset

  • @anthonylee5305
    @anthonylee5305 Рік тому

    I was wondering when this would pop up on your feed..and here it is!

  • @Masterr-K
    @Masterr-K Рік тому

    The weight feel on the bridge of the nose from a typical VR headset can pretty much be cancelled out if you buy a head strap for whatever brand headset you have. I had the same issue with my VR headset until I bought an over the head strap from a third party vendor. It completely took the weight off the bridge of the nose and put it on the top of the head where it belonged. Now I can do VR for hours whereas before I could only do VR for 30 to 45 minutes.

  • @Sierra-rx9ke
    @Sierra-rx9ke Рік тому

    Banger review as always

  • @FG_356
    @FG_356 Рік тому

    Future VR will be like just LENSES put on our eye just like Terminator and Robocop

  • @nameinvalid69
    @nameinvalid69 Рік тому +1

    THIS is the true future.
    Not those comically large bulky sets...

  • @ezpz4659
    @ezpz4659 Рік тому

    My Rift S with an aftermarket cushion is still the best VR headset for sim racing in VR for longevity and reliability

  • @mbezik
    @mbezik Рік тому +1

    I keep seeing a lot of reviewers speak about the glare on the screen, this is worrying, its been the first thing a lot of people have mentioned. As someone who returned his pico 4 because of screen glare this is a dealbreaker. ill stick with my quest pro for now

  • @1976Cordoba
    @1976Cordoba Рік тому

    I haven't tried VR yet for the same reason as you, Will. Ill happily wait for more clarity in the meantime. 👍🏁

  • @abhishekab1
    @abhishekab1 Рік тому

    Very nice touch there Will, when you showed SDE, when talking about SDE :)

  • @able_archer_
    @able_archer_ Рік тому +1

    Note that this uses uOLED and are a generation beyond OLED, uOLED are deposited directly on silicon and that fixes a lot of OLED issues, mura is eliminated for one.

  • @KMANWEBER
    @KMANWEBER Рік тому +1

    Comfort is king

    • @KMANWEBER
      @KMANWEBER Рік тому

      @@adrenalinejunkie3828 money is no object for me. I would pay $5,000+ for a headset, but it has to be light.

  • @AlexRichard
    @AlexRichard Рік тому +2

    Considering the aero is now the exact same price, would you still go for BSB?
    It seems other than comfort, aero has the edge with foveated rendering and a few other things. And in the aero review you seemed to still love the comfort of it so would definitely appreciate some feedback! Going to order one after 😄

  • @thechief2020
    @thechief2020 Рік тому

    Was waiting to see when this was going to show up on here!

  • @jessekoepp3928
    @jessekoepp3928 Рік тому +10

    I'd be VERY interested in this if it didn't also require another $500 for two base stations and those semi wack "we'll probably break in a year, so start saving up again" Index controllers. The concept is great though and the more competition in the VR space, the better. Also just in case you guys didn't know or perhaps want the best of both worlds, the Quest 3 is coming out this fall and looks to be a LOT slimmer and more comfortable than Quest 2, with the base model being $500. It also does mixed reality if that does anything for you. It's a fantastic time to be a VR fan!

    • @markkovalcson7243
      @markkovalcson7243 Рік тому +8

      My lighthouses have been perfectly reliable for over 4 years now. They are not a concern at all. Just at about 4 years and after heavy use one of the buttons on my left Index controller started acting up, but they both still held a charge for a long time and tracked beautifully. There is nothing as good as light house tracking if you want precision and accuracy.

    • @thenonexistinghero
      @thenonexistinghero Рік тому

      @@markkovalcson7243 I'd say that's irrelevant considering that the entry cost for a lighthouse tracking setup is nearly $1000 (2 base stations and 2 expensive controllers... or buy the $1000 Valve Index that includes those). Then on top of that you need to buy a $1000 headset and you're looking at a $2000+ initial investment for someone to properly get started with this device. The cost is quite frankly, insane. Best case scenario the company will break even, this isn't going to turn much of a profit.

    • @bjrnchrstn
      @bjrnchrstn Рік тому

      This is exactly what holds me back. Ill stick to my HP Reverb G2 sometime longer.
      Also Steam VR isn't something I prefer.

  • @BKWilliamsJnr
    @BKWilliamsJnr Рік тому

    This is the future of gaming

  • @chriskross1660
    @chriskross1660 Рік тому

    nice review ! I think I switch from my reverb G2 after over 2 years to this Bigscreen VR .... a lightweight VR on your head while driving is very comfortable I think so. I don't want a heavy weight VR while driving and the good quality in dark situations make a NOS24 race on night very funny

  • @appliedtraining3199
    @appliedtraining3199 Рік тому

    6hrs most i've done in one session with the PIMAX 8Kx. Always a good upgrade is to change the head strap to the vive makes a massive difference

  • @stuartsherman5975
    @stuartsherman5975 Рік тому

    Exciting video. I might have missed it but what 2 base stations and stands do you recommend? Any light you could provide would be greatly appreciated.

  • @tarushdei
    @tarushdei Рік тому

    You could probably fit this under an actual racing helmet, holy crap.
    I may have to rethink my entire goal with my upgrades.

  • @gageboy14
    @gageboy14 11 місяців тому

    Still using my Samsung Odyssey original HMD headset with its dual AMOLED screens. Looking forward to this new headset.

  • @IvanFamanni
    @IvanFamanni Рік тому

    beautiful video I will definitely buy them could you make a video on how to set everything up with ACC thank you very much for your time

  • @bananaZn
    @bananaZn Рік тому

    Ima have to get one as well, looks like an awesome VR headset, thanks for the great review :)

  • @zooboy319
    @zooboy319 Рік тому

    One thing I didn’t see you talk about is graphic settings in game, and if you were able to hold a solid 90 fps. Would be awesome to know! I have similar pc specs so that would be nice information to know:)

  • @simonolsen9995
    @simonolsen9995 Рік тому +7

    Great review Will. I still think my HP Reverb is the duck's guts, but if it died tomorrow, I'd be looking for an instant replacement. I'm still inclined to think FoV and peripheral vision is King. Turning my head to check blind spots crashes me out as often as not. But from the PoV of an old fart with collapsed, arthritic neck vertebrae, that light weight build looks damn attractive.

  • @madfeldor
    @madfeldor Рік тому

    Nice video, thanks! Learned about this headset via Steam by following bigscreen. Used their app. with my old HTC Vive. I like the review of this. Most likely cannot affort it with all the things I probably would need (like a new PC...) but, can always dream heh. and check good reviews. Cheers...

  • @mrpetebojangles21
    @mrpetebojangles21 Рік тому +1

    Great review! Looking forward to upgrading from my Index and replaying Alyx and more MSFS. I’m especially hoping that the higher res will allow me to see the aircraft instruments more clearly than the Index

    • @justinhogue9861
      @justinhogue9861 Рік тому +1

      i use that resolution with my current setup and youll notice a difference. In particular the instruments will be very clear. Landscape is where clearness falls off some.

    • @mrpetebojangles21
      @mrpetebojangles21 Рік тому

      @@justinhogue9861 if I can see the instruments clearly I’ll be super happy!

  • @glitchinthematrix9306
    @glitchinthematrix9306 Рік тому +2

    Im in a tough spot choosing this beyond or the crystal for simracing? Is the difference in clarity big or is it negliable for iracing and acc? I also have no clue what to expect in terms of clarity nowhere i can test these things in my country. Is it like you watching a 1440p screen or way sharper?

    • @boostedmedia
      @boostedmedia  Рік тому +3

      The clarity is similar (for me at least). Crystal has a wider FOV but was an absolute mess for me user experience wise. Have a look at my review if you haven’t already.
      I would absolutely choose this over the Crystal for sim racing.

    • @glitchinthematrix9306
      @glitchinthematrix9306 Рік тому

      @@boostedmedia Thank you! Yes I watched it. I watch them all keep up the content!

    • @Killswitch1411
      @Killswitch1411 Рік тому

      @@MrPregnant3D I never had the issues with my Crystal Boosted had. For me its the form factor is more of a negative, but the blooming in the Beyond and small sweet spot has me little concerned if I should buy it as Blooming is something I'm sensitive to and it takes me out of VR.

  • @chills996
    @chills996 Рік тому +2

    Wouldn't it make sense for them to sell the custom 'face cushion' separately? Then your mates could use the headset with their own fitment. Would also allow for selling the unit on at a later date. Looks great though and brilliant review, as always. Thanks.

    • @zetapal
      @zetapal Рік тому +2

      You could probably do that but the unit itself is one of like 11 types that are based on a set ipd.

    • @chills996
      @chills996 Рік тому

      @@zetapal Ah right, I didn’t realise. Good point then, not so simple. Thanks.

  • @ryanchenoweth5673
    @ryanchenoweth5673 Рік тому

    fantastic mate 👌where is the cheapest place to get v2 base stations from in Australia Will?

  • @ronaldpitts4791
    @ronaldpitts4791 4 місяці тому

    Very good and informative review, thank you. However, Would you know if you are able to order a second, or more, face gaskets for another family member?

  • @ELO_BOTT
    @ELO_BOTT Рік тому

    Will you be doing a review for the Q3?

  • @forestnfren8146
    @forestnfren8146 10 місяців тому

    shoei needs to make a helmet that has sennheiser audio in it - with a lens plate that can take various VR devices.
    Imagine literally just throwing on a helmet after crawling in your rig.

  • @kwisin1337
    @kwisin1337 Рік тому

    I hope they give us one!!
    Guys, just buy one...

    • @boostedmedia
      @boostedmedia  Рік тому

      Hoping they send us one doesn’t mean we won’t buy one 😂

  • @BakerRacing
    @BakerRacing Рік тому

    16:36 Just go ahead and reach out... you can touch the front tire.

  • @lrgege5854
    @lrgege5854 Рік тому

    If only this headset can do more FOV and better res this would be insane.

  • @sauce4608
    @sauce4608 Рік тому +2

    New wish list item😂

  • @JamesHartnell
    @JamesHartnell Рік тому +2

    Love this - solves many issues I have with current 'large' headsets - be very interested to see how this size tech develops.

  • @zetapal
    @zetapal Рік тому +1

    I really wanted to like the Quest 3 but having owned a Quest 2 and used it for PCVR, I think I'm going to have to get one of these Beyond's. Having that extra layer of compression/decompression in the Quests due to USB 3 just kills the experience for me. It adds soo much latency (like 30ms total or more) and tweaking the extra settings to get it working right is a huge PITA. Display port is definitely the way to go as I've found out with my G2. In the G2 if your running at 90Hz, you know you have to get your latency below 11.1 micro seconds and your good ... so you just move the render scale up or down til your at 8 or 9 and that's it. Simple. Also a lot of the filters and settings on graphics are just ways of trying to make bad graphics look good. If you get a powerful enough GPU and you have high enough resolution screens, you can just shut most of that crap off and let her eat ... again, simple. With the Beyond, you can run at 75Hz and it still looks good which means your ceiling is, I think, 13 or 14 ms. This is great if your running something like MSFS which is a hefty program. You'll be able to run native refresh rate with no reprojection and with the higher resolution you won't need a lot of filters which just bog down and blur up your experience anyway. Right now, I'm running American Truck Simulator in VR on my G2 with all the settings maxed, plus mods and I'm doing it at 9ms latency with the render scale in Steam at 180%. That's 90 Hz native on the G2 and it looks fantastic. Granted, I'm doing it with a 4090 and a 5800x3D but the difference is night and day. My 3080 couldn't even think about doing this. The G2 is 2140 x 2140 per eye and the Beyond is 2560 x 2560 per eye with better lenses and micro oled, so I think that's the next logical step, even if I have to buy a base station or two. Cheers !

    • @charlesrobertson1860
      @charlesrobertson1860 Рік тому

      Not sure of your wifi speeds/pc specs but I have a pretty low end pc gtx 1660 and I use quest 3 with virtual desktop (no wires) and can run assetto corsa at 72 fps on high graphics quality from VD. It's absolutely amazing quality.

    • @zetapal
      @zetapal Рік тому +1

      @@charlesrobertson1860 Update: Yeah, I bought a Quest 3 as well and its pretty awesome. Turns out the latency problem was more endemic to the Quest 2 itself somehow. The Quest 3 has some latency in the stream sure but when it decodes it its faster ? or the lenses are so good it somehow doesn't bother me ? Suffice it to say I don't know why the one sucks and the other doesn't, but the Q3 is great. I was very surprised.

  • @AdzzVR
    @AdzzVR Рік тому

    How does tracking work? And controllers?
    Also would opencomposite / openXR work to bypass steamVR?

  • @littlerhino2006
    @littlerhino2006 Рік тому

    Damn, I want one

  • @Tempest261
    @Tempest261 Рік тому +2

    Hi Will, one correction: the lighthouse architecture is technically “inside-out” tracking, as it’s still the headset doing the tracking. The lighthouses are providing the reference points (lasers) that the HMD tracks.

    • @jessekoepp3928
      @jessekoepp3928 Рік тому +1

      Wrong, the "inside out" part indicates the hmd itself does the tracking. There is literally no computation of any sort going on inside the hmd, which is the primary reason it's so tiny. If it actually had "inside out" tracking, it wouldn't need base stations at all. It has "outside in" tracking via base stations, just like the Index and Vive.

    • @blackboard_sx3488
      @blackboard_sx3488 Рік тому +2

      @@jessekoepp3928 Like the Index, Bigscreen does inside-out IR tracking. Lighthouses do not do the tracking, they're not even connected to the PC or HMD -- they spew out lasers that the headset's sensors see. Inside-out, but using sensors instead of cameras.

    • @Tempest261
      @Tempest261 Рік тому

      @@jessekoepp3928 sorry, but no. The base stations provide an output. Not an input. They are being tracked. The HMD does the tracking.

    • @jessekoepp3928
      @jessekoepp3928 Рік тому

      @@blackboard_sx3488 🙄HMDs that use inside out tracking DON'T require base stations Einstein. THERE ARE NO CAMERAS ON IT! THERE IS NO PROCESSING BEING DONE INSIDE IT! THAT'S WHY IT'S SO FUCKING SMALL! This paradigm is about as complicated as making toast, yet you still somehow fail at it. Jesus tap dancing christ go bounce a rubber ball outside or something, this is clearly beyond your slim abilities to comprehend. Seriously...

    • @jessekoepp3928
      @jessekoepp3928 Рік тому

      @@Tempest261 You don't know what these terms mean and you should stop using them. I'll make this REAL simple for your window licking ass ok?
      Quest = Inside out tracking
      Index = Outside in tracking
      You can't say a hmd has "inside out" tracking, if it can't do all the tracking on it's own. For the Bigscreen Beyond, the PC it's connected to is doing ALL the work, not the hmd. The hmd is basically just a display. In an inside out tracking hmd, the tracking is all done internally, (with cameras moron, see any cameras on the BB?) hence its portability and convenience compared to the alternative. Now go kick rocks genius.

  • @IvanFamanni
    @IvanFamanni Рік тому

    THANKS FOR THE VIDEO WHERE CAN YOU BUY THE TRIPODS FOR THE STATION BASE?

    • @boostedmedia
      @boostedmedia  Рік тому +1

      These are just studio light stands from Amazon

  • @TooManyCatsRyan
    @TooManyCatsRyan Рік тому

    Look at Will when he's got these things on! He needs to start a synth wave punk fusion band.

  • @simplymentalOG
    @simplymentalOG Рік тому

    Forever getting close to just a pair of eyesocket shades 😎 ❤❤
    These look to be on borderline enough to be thinking about upgrading from the index, I'd be lying if said there hasn't been a few hard knocks due to its size and forgetting about reality 😂
    Maybe the next step will make me unable to resist temptation 😮 but will have to get in the que 🤭 (rather long wish list prioritised haha).
    If i win the lottery, i'd have them in a heartbeat 😂
    Very cool 😎👍

  • @maksymfrost8846
    @maksymfrost8846 Рік тому

    Hey! Thanks a lot for the video, it was really great.👍
    Could you please give me advice? I think you're the only one who has enough knowledge in this area to answer my question.
    I'm mostly looking for a headset to watch movies and shows. I have a good 65" hdr oled tv but want to get really cinema and 3d effects with good picture(I don't have an appropriate wall for a video projector).
    My priority is not comfort but to get the most enjoyable and realistic picture from watching movies.
    I'm ready to buy Pimax Crystal but is it the best choice in comparison with Bigscreen Beyond or maybe there is a better choice? I mean which one can give the best cinematic experience? I've read that Pimax Crystal has HDR and Bigscreen has a "glare" issue during scenes with high contrast, is it true?
    Or maybe it's impossible for now to get better cinematic experience from a VR headset than from a good 65" hdr oled tv set? What do you think?

  • @tapetwo7115
    @tapetwo7115 Рік тому

    I'm gonna keep watching the video, but I am a newbie to PCVR gear. (Quest 2/3 user) -- What hardware do I need to track my head movement.

  • @rayaguilar9085
    @rayaguilar9085 Рік тому +1

    At 21:35 it shows you driving and the latency is really bad. I know we can’t see what you are seeing in the headset but that would be the first thing I’d care about after FOV… latency. No actually the latency is the first thing I care about in a VR review. What’s the point if it looks good if the latency is bad?
    Anyway. Do you have any data on the latency?

  • @JavierMares
    @JavierMares Рік тому

    great review cheers!

  • @boothys_sim_racin
    @boothys_sim_racin Рік тому +1

    That's sick having a custom fit almost wants me to get into VR. Mate of mine has the Pimax 8k, I tried it and like you the screen door effect is a big thing for me just blurry even when adjusted. VR gets close to being where it should be every year but it's still a few years away for me it's too hard to come from a G9 clarity at 240hz 👌

  • @giovacrim3857
    @giovacrim3857 9 місяців тому

    Hello, from the Varjo aero is better ? I use for iracing

  • @jedfeng748
    @jedfeng748 Рік тому

    Do you need anything else to use this headset to do sim racing or watch movies?

  • @MrLazyleader
    @MrLazyleader Рік тому

    When I just want to use 2D streaming to the headset, do I still need the Steam VR Lighthouse thingies?

  • @IvanFamanni
    @IvanFamanni Рік тому

    HELLO AND THANKS I don't know if you have already tried this 3 but tell me what to buy as VR TODAY thank you very much

  • @seattime4075
    @seattime4075 Рік тому +1

    I own a 8KX and a G2 and also struggle to use them over 30 minutes due to comfort. This looks like it will be my next buy..

    • @blkcyborg92
      @blkcyborg92 Рік тому

      Is the G2 that uncomfortable???

    • @heisenbug3542
      @heisenbug3542 Рік тому +1

      I do endurance in G2, just put a fan in your face.

    • @blkcyborg92
      @blkcyborg92 Рік тому

      @@heisenbug3542 😂 well as long as comfortable as the Oculus CV1 I’ll be good. That’s the last VR headset I used and I raced with that for hours

  • @rodmorgan7041
    @rodmorgan7041 Рік тому

    What an excellent review Will. I have never really been a fan of VR for sim racing, but only because of the size of the headsets and frontal weight. BUT my god, I'm ready to slap my money on the table to get one of these after seeing your review, (even though they are Aussie dollars). Can you change the type of wheel you are using? Because you obviously cant see yours. Plus it is a shame that you can't say to your friends "Hey, put these on and have a race" if they aren't your twin 😊

  • @make780daily1
    @make780daily1 Рік тому +1

    "Take up one idea. Make that one idea your life--think of it, dream of it, live on that idea. Let the brain, muscles, nerves, every part of your body, be full of that idea, and just leave every other idea alone. This is the way to success." --Swami Vivekananda

  • @devonangle4852
    @devonangle4852 Рік тому

    Would you say this is better the Reverb G2? My cable went out and Im going to need to upgrade soon....

  • @dwahnaslowdown8887
    @dwahnaslowdown8887 Рік тому

    I've played games on 3D monitors, both with Nvidia's 3D Vision system and with LG's passive interlaced display. I love the stereoscopic effect. I would potentially also love a headset version of a stereoscopic flat panel 3d display that doesn't suffer from the darkness of shutter glasses or the lower resolution of the passive interlaced ones. I don't need the whole world in front of me to be 3D - I just want to experience that stereoscopic viewpoint and use my mouse/keyboard/wheel as I would with a flat panel. Seems like that would be easier and with no screendoor if it were approached that way.