APPLE VISION PRO: Actually, pretty good.

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  • @Paulie8K
    @Paulie8K 11 місяців тому +1724

    Probably the most reasonable AVP review. The mainstream reviews are mostly VR casuals so it's good to see the perspective of dedicated VR channels. While I'm not a big fan of Apple, there is no denying that this will push forward VR tech and adoption which is a win for us all.

    • @Just-Ventras
      @Just-Ventras 11 місяців тому

      How will it push anything the thing doesn't have controllers ?
      I also dont understand how thrill can call this "competition" the thing is 3500 bucks
      For a Goolge cardboard with an iphone inside ..... Yea nah
      The AVP could have pushed but apple did what apple does and did it different so differently to a point the darn thing HAS NO CONTROLLERS .......
      Its garbage only morons and influencers buy so they can show it of to said morons

    • @thoreberlin
      @thoreberlin 11 місяців тому +12

      AVP shows the path to productivity just when the last hype was moving towards the through of disillusionment.

    • @EvileDik
      @EvileDik 11 місяців тому +36

      Yep, this is the video serious VR aficionado's have been waiting for, not Brownlee's blatant fanboying (but I guess Trill's income does not depend on keeping Apple sweet).
      The lack of controllers is a massive oversight and deal-breaker. Gestures are fine for simple, serial tasks, but controllers allow multiple parallel inputs. It just goes to show how little Apple understand gaming, the 3d arts, or VR locomotion.There's a reason we still use keyboards and don't write documents by painstakingly drawing letters in the air.

    • @Words-.
      @Words-. 11 місяців тому +13

      @@EvileDikI honestly defend Apple with this move. I think many would agree that if hand an eye tracking gets good enough they’d rather not use a controller. It was a necessary move to differentiate themselves also, cause they undercut their marketing of the hand and eye tracking if they add controllers. Also it’s not a gaming headset and I doubt it ever will be. The only con is you have to get a MacBook to really use the productivity gains. Good thing is many people have MacBooks already but I think they should add keyboard and mouse support via Bluetooth, then many more people would gladly use the device, probably.

    • @Chuckolicious
      @Chuckolicious 11 місяців тому +16

      Mark my...@@Words-. 🤣 Apple will release Controller Pods for it.

  • @noahp.gaming
    @noahp.gaming 11 місяців тому +208

    I hate how so many other tech reviewers get millions of views on their vision pro videos, but you clearly are the most experienced VR tech reviewer on UA-cam and views are currently sitting at 70K. Obviously there's some factor as far as timing, but you deserve so much more. Thank you for your in-depth reviews of what remains to be a fairly niche market (when compared against average consumers).

    • @Gaze73
      @Gaze73 11 місяців тому +4

      it's easy to get millions when they have millions of subs

    • @chaosforged7600
      @chaosforged7600 11 місяців тому +1

      Problem is that this is a niche channel compared to Linus Tech Tips or whatnot, it’s nothing against Thrill, but when you have a more diverse audience of ten million plus subscribers the numbers are just going to skew higher, it just one of those ratio things.

    • @imaginalex5850
      @imaginalex5850 9 місяців тому

      this vr headset is the most useless device apple has ever created by far, i can't remember a more useless device apple has created since the alluminum lock for the trash can apple pro that didn't have the same material then the metal of the trash can and stood out like a sore thumb.

  • @TheVirtualRealityShow
    @TheVirtualRealityShow 11 місяців тому +705

    FINALLY THE THRILL AVP VIDEOOO

    • @RoyHoy
      @RoyHoy 11 місяців тому +1

      We don't like you.

    • @itsmemc7961
      @itsmemc7961 11 місяців тому +4

      John is here. John is coming. He is coming for you

    • @pumpuppthevolume
      @pumpuppthevolume 11 місяців тому +11

      FINALLYYYYYY .....now Phia's Vpro video

    • @Alexorsumidk
      @Alexorsumidk 11 місяців тому

      YAAAAA

    • @SwaMusic
      @SwaMusic 11 місяців тому +2

      LETS GOOOOO!

  • @dameanvil
    @dameanvil 11 місяців тому +2

    00:00 🎮 The Vision Pro is hailed as the most nuanced and divisive VR headset, combining remarkable advancements with notable shortcomings.
    07:59 🧠 Vision OS enhances user experience with intuitive navigation, leveraging familiar UI elements from iOS and macOS.
    10:29 🌄 Environments in Vision Pro offer immersive experiences, blending virtual and real-world elements seamlessly.
    14:14 🛠 Vision Pro serves as a powerful tool for productivity, consolidating multiple devices into a single, versatile platform.
    19:02 💰 The Vision Pro's price point and limitations raise concerns about its value proposition and market positioning.
    19:11 🔍 Steam VR compatibility expands the Vision Pro's gaming capabilities, despite complex setup requirements.
    19:38 🔥 The Quest 3, while lacking in raw hardware specs, offers impressive value and competes effectively with the Vision Pro.
    19:59 🔄 Both the Vision Pro and Quest 3 represent positive advancements in the VR industry, catering to different market segments.

  • @PortRhouse
    @PortRhouse 11 місяців тому +379

    The one review to rule them all. Despite all the drawbacks, the clip of you sitting at the lake with all those different programs and windows running together and seeing the holographic VST display float above the physical keyboard was still probably the coolest and most compelling demo I have seen for vision pro. That and seeing steam VR working, it’ll be sweet to see what people can do with this thing given some time.

    • @Raulikien
      @Raulikien 11 місяців тому +7

      We are literally living in the future. Not gonna be long till VR/AR gets integrated with AI and we get some crazy stuff.

    • @yourmomsboyfriend3337
      @yourmomsboyfriend3337 11 місяців тому +13

      Do we know how he got Windows running? I know it may seem like a stupid question but I genuinely completely believed that there was no way Apple would let you use a windows PC in their headset, since it completely goes against their profits. Can anybody provide details on how well this works?

    • @KatemisMoon
      @KatemisMoon 11 місяців тому

      @@yourmomsboyfriend3337 I’m using moonlight to connect to PC and can even do an ultrawide screen!

    • @acslater017
      @acslater017 11 місяців тому +9

      I ran ChatGPT by the virtual lake the other day, and it was the closest thing I’ve experienced to being on the Holodeck and having a conversation with “Computer!”

    • @GodlyAwesome
      @GodlyAwesome 11 місяців тому

      I use the parsec app for iPad to connect to my pc. Really any Remote Desktop tool has an app. A bit janky but it gets the job done. Bit of a pain to use the mouse since you can’t use one natively in visionOS.
      ​@@yourmomsboyfriend3337

  • @The_Natalist
    @The_Natalist 11 місяців тому +14

    As someone with ADHD, this looks like the ultimate productivity *killer*

  • @jovanleon7
    @jovanleon7 11 місяців тому +197

    I've watched Marques' review and some other big channels' reviews on the Vision pro but there's never a doubt in my mind that the absolute best review on the thing would come from you. So I, and apparently many others, have been excitingly waiting. NOBODY knows VR/XR like you and nobody can push the AVP like you can. This is great, I thank you for your service.

    • @RanmaruRei
      @RanmaruRei 11 місяців тому +16

      Tbf, you won't have the full picture about AVP without others. I feel it's just another perspective that only Thrill can provide.
      I watched several reviewers and many of them had some piece of new information.
      Let's see what Thril and Brad can provide.

    • @jovanleon7
      @jovanleon7 11 місяців тому +1

      @@RanmaruRei you're right. I of course got a lot of other infos on the device along with different perspectives on their experiences using it, but for the essence of what it can provide and what it's truly worth amongst the tons of VR headsets out there, only Thrill can give.

    • @bloopbleepnothinghere
      @bloopbleepnothinghere 11 місяців тому +1

      The iPhone convinced everyone of its value in one keynote. The AVP has relied on advocates to push it along. I don’t think many people see any value in it as part of their daily life.

    • @TheWolfCub71
      @TheWolfCub71 11 місяців тому +1

      @@bloopbleepnothinghereI remember, myself included, people thinking the iPad was pointless and who would want something’s that’s so big you won’t use it as a phone, yet not a computer? On paper it was stupid. Once I got one, it’s my main computation device. The only reason I fire up my Mac is to record music or install updates to make music. 90% of my emailing, 30% of my texting, most of my internet browsing, 90% of my UA-cam viewing, and 25% of my music listening, and 80% of my social networking is done on my iPad.

    • @mRw0oK
      @mRw0oK 11 місяців тому +1

      @@TheWolfCub71 ever tried using a pc? :D like you dont even know what you are missing if you are satisfied with a tablet... except you are a full on casual user then apple will give you the only "flawless" experience but i could never imagine sticking to a mobile device for music production or even limiting myself to only one device.... like for the money of your devices i would buy synth and recording equipment and still a decent pc/laptop to fill some gaps.... no mobile device if android or apple will ever give you the full range of possibility

  • @eamonocon
    @eamonocon 11 місяців тому

    Thanks!

  • @epicthief
    @epicthief 11 місяців тому +386

    No one, seriously no one, has more experience communicating headsets than our boi Thrill

    • @iamboringvideos6832
      @iamboringvideos6832 11 місяців тому +10

      Well besides experts who just so happen to not be youtubers.

    • @christophermartinez8597
      @christophermartinez8597 11 місяців тому +4

      Definitely a more valuable opinion than most other big reviewers, considering he's a matter expert

    • @drone-vision
      @drone-vision 11 місяців тому

      You want to tell me that developers and creators of the products know it less?!?! LOL 🤣

    • @BilboSwagginsTheThird
      @BilboSwagginsTheThird 11 місяців тому +5

      @@drone-vision"more experience communicating headsets" Yes, I guarantee he is better at communicating the strengths, weaknesses, and points people care about to the general public than the majority of the developers of the headsets. Technical details or how they really work, no shot he knows better than the devs, but devs are notoriously bad at communicating with non-developers. Then the people paid to be communicators of it are going to downplay weaknesses.

    • @drone-vision
      @drone-vision 11 місяців тому +1

      @@BilboSwagginsTheThird every big company have a team that looks through competitor products, breaking down its functionality and then adjusting their own products. Watch this space soon Quest 3 will have their functionality updated....

  • @TheNiteNinja19
    @TheNiteNinja19 11 місяців тому +50

    I fixed my Quest 2 and jumped in after 7 months and I'm actually honestly impressed how great the hand tracking on the Q2 actually is.

    • @apfelsolutions9685
      @apfelsolutions9685 11 місяців тому

      What? Im always so pissed using it. Mostly without the controllers. Sits beside my desk

    • @MidnightNachos
      @MidnightNachos 9 місяців тому

      @@apfelsolutions9685 the hand tracking is amazing, I occasionally use my q2 ONLY because of hand tracking

    • @Hiiiidbhh
      @Hiiiidbhh 9 місяців тому

      @@apfelsolutions9685its not metas fault a 4 year old expects a headset from 2020 to have something from a headset from 2024

  • @egottis
    @egottis 11 місяців тому +292

    finally a review i can completely trust

  • @GAMERSNACK
    @GAMERSNACK 11 місяців тому +49

    Thank you for the review, it's greatly appreciated!
    By the way, could you please provide information about the music used? I would love to use them.

    • @Ahmed-eu4yb
      @Ahmed-eu4yb 11 місяців тому +1

      من زمان عن قناتكم

    • @theninjamaster67
      @theninjamaster67 11 місяців тому +3

      He makes a lot of his own music and has a music channel so you'd probably have to get permission to use it also if you're including the song at the end in the question it's called Claire De Lune and it's a really old classical song so you could probably find a good royalty free cover of it somewhere.

  • @ecogreen123
    @ecogreen123 11 місяців тому +115

    it's good because it's a start, a proof of concept. it's bad because it's a long way from the goal, a long way to go. but either way it's a step forward and that's something to be proud of.

    • @juniorc1521
      @juniorc1521 11 місяців тому +16

      Well this channel honestly is for and by gamers. Apple has never and imo will never be a gaming company as much as just a tech company. I worked there for five years and their mindset towards gaming is almost non existent. What I am excited for is other companies replicating the vision pro and taking it in those directions for cheaper like androids did with iphones.

    • @ecogreen123
      @ecogreen123 11 місяців тому

      @@juniorc1521 indeed!

    • @RawArt0
      @RawArt0 11 місяців тому +11

      It's been 10 years since the early Rift versions, yet we can write the exact same message about early Rifts and Vision Pro. Good start, proof of concept, long way from the goal. I thought 10 years ago that VR would be further ahead by now.

    • @ecogreen123
      @ecogreen123 11 місяців тому

      @@RawArt0 i mean it has taken us how long to perfect computers? and we are only getting to quantum computers within the past couple years, things take time and VR hasn't had quite the spotlight other mediums have had, but i digress you have some excellent points. (edit: let alone the fact we haven't even perfected computers, forgot to mention that.)

    • @weird-guy
      @weird-guy 11 місяців тому +1

      Unless form factor becomes the size of sunglasses it will not become mainstream imo.

  • @richie_01
    @richie_01 11 місяців тому +7

    Best AVP review. Period. Beyond tech, beyond numbers, beyond brands… just a real VR lover perspective opinion. I must say you are the only one youtuber I know that really distills that love for the XR and what it could become someday. The VR community really needs your work.

  • @naraera
    @naraera 11 місяців тому +40

    i've so been waiting for this review. someone with knowledge of the VR scene and not just multi-million-subscriber tech bros and news outlets. thank you for the work you do

  • @spaceadv6060
    @spaceadv6060 11 місяців тому +4

    I always appreciate the beautiful filmmaking and editing you put into your videos!

  • @Flounderflaneur
    @Flounderflaneur 11 місяців тому +62

    Love the OG vr reviews coming out. The “24hr w/ the AVP non-VR reviews were killing me.

    • @Cakebattered
      @Cakebattered 11 місяців тому +1

      The day one review by TheVerge was quite thorough and balanced.

  • @phipsinator
    @phipsinator 11 місяців тому +52

    I'm watching this in a virtual room on my Quest 3.
    I just realized, how insanely far we've come. From Google Cardbox to the Oculus Dev Kit, from HTC Vive to the first Quest - I have the feeling that VR and AR are slowly maturing and growing up. There's still a long way to go, we're still at the beginning - but holy moly, it's getting good.
    It's so great that Apple is offering competition. This is going to shake up the market sooo much! Quest 3 facelift with eye tracking wouldn't surprise me ;)
    Claire the lune basically sums up the beauty of this advancement well. Thank you for the beautiful video!
    I'm so excited for the future!

    • @bok4822
      @bok4822 11 місяців тому +6

      It feels like we're still at the early cell phone stages before smart phones came.
      Someday soon there will be released a product that will completely revolutionize the entire VR/AR industry the same way Steve Jobs managed to revolutionize phones.

    • @maxman1244
      @maxman1244 11 місяців тому

      ​@@bok4822 that's definitely the direction they're trying to take with apple right now. They've found a market they can try and do the same thing they did with the iPhone.
      Problem is, Steve ain't around anymore, and vr/ar is NOT the market and societal advancement, becoming a near necessity that cellphones had encompassed.
      I look forward to the future here.

    • @dannylifted
      @dannylifted 11 місяців тому

      It's hard for me to imagine using vr/mr without the haptic feedback of a controller. Like punching something on the quest feels so good because the controller vibrate.

    • @maxman1244
      @maxman1244 11 місяців тому +1

      @@dannylifted I imagine haptic gloves coming soon

    • @dannylifted
      @dannylifted 11 місяців тому +1

      @@maxman1244 I'd be happy with a haptic watch / fit bit like device that is worn on each wrist.

  • @Strijder8
    @Strijder8 11 місяців тому +125

    Just an hour ago I went to your channel thinking maybe youtube wasn't pushing your videos to me anymore since it has been awhile and was shocked there wasn't a vid, just a few minutes later it arrived. Awesome content.

    • @ThomasLeichardt
      @ThomasLeichardt 11 місяців тому +6

      You felt the video coming in the ethers lol, you felt a disturbance in the force! 🤣

    • @cenciende9401
      @cenciende9401 11 місяців тому

      Ever heard of the subscription section? All I do is refresh that page a couple times a day, easy, no idea why anyone wouldn't use the best feature on UA-cam

    • @ashermacdonald6823
      @ashermacdonald6823 11 місяців тому +2

      @@ThomasLeichardtlol, I literally woke up today and just thought “thrill seeker probably released something” and sure enough, there it was

  • @NorCalMtnBiker86
    @NorCalMtnBiker86 11 місяців тому +2

    I was WAITING so long for this video... Thank God you're alive and well. This video is beautiful and well put together.

  • @SwaMusic
    @SwaMusic 11 місяців тому +20

    Beautifully done. Well worth the wait. 😎

  • @XtremertXHD
    @XtremertXHD 11 місяців тому +2

    Love your reviews, there is a difference in the tone, the visuals and the voice i really like it - in my opinion you really differentiate from other reviewers and slways look forward to your videos!
    So stoked whats more to come in VR/ Mixed Reality😍❤️ thanks!

  • @richiekotwica9358
    @richiekotwica9358 11 місяців тому +39

    After relentlessly watching as much Vision Pro content on UA-cam...your videos are works of art. They only ones that I watch on normal speed. As a video editor, I really appreciate the extra work you put into your videos.

  • @AmazeVR
    @AmazeVR 11 місяців тому +7

    Excited to finally hear your thoughts on this!
    It’s been AMAZE-ing (😉) to see how much we can push Apple Vision Pro’s processing power and 4K displays to showcase our VR Concerts/Immersive Experiences!

    • @iamboringvideos6832
      @iamboringvideos6832 11 місяців тому +2

      And im enjoying 5k per eye on my pimax crystal, cant wait for 6k per eye with pimax 12k

    • @blackoppsman702
      @blackoppsman702 11 місяців тому

      @@iamboringvideos6832 no one asked

  • @criticalkids
    @criticalkids 11 місяців тому +15

    This is by far the best Vision Pro review I’ve ever seen, and the one I’ve been waiting for! It really puts things into perspective and looks at the big picture

  • @JakubNeustadt
    @JakubNeustadt 11 місяців тому +2

    Thank you for this review, I've been waiting for someone like you who really has the experience and the knowledge of the current state of VR/MR market to do a review like this.

  • @yvan2563
    @yvan2563 11 місяців тому +13

    The most complete and balanced review of the Vision Pro I've watched so far.
    It was well worth the wait, thank you.

  • @jameskirk4692
    @jameskirk4692 11 місяців тому +2

    Your video production is of top quality! Sound, music, video, content, enthusiasm, realism, criticism, praises.... all top notch in my opinion.
    Thank you a ton, for producing such super enjoyable and interesting content on your channel!

  • @wurmschn3693
    @wurmschn3693 11 місяців тому +15

    Thanks, was waiting for your review.
    I do very much apprechiate that you took your time, because I mostly value your opinion on that front

  • @dunngunkadoid
    @dunngunkadoid 11 місяців тому +1

    I've kept up with all the major reviews and impressions videos on the AVP and have been excitedly waiting for this exact video. I've also worked in the VR industry for years and this is by far the most educated, well thought out, and informative video covering the AVP I have ever seen. Thank you so much.

  • @ethanbakare
    @ethanbakare 11 місяців тому +9

    Finally, you're the first youtube page I checked when the headset hit the stores! It nice to your take on things

  • @xzygy
    @xzygy 11 місяців тому +2

    Honestly, pairing the AVP with a keyboard turns it immediately useful. I travel a lot for work, already very happy with the purchase

  • @JamieVatarga
    @JamieVatarga 11 місяців тому +23

    This is the one review I was waiting for

  • @luke.rayman
    @luke.rayman 11 місяців тому +2

    Finally the most awaited video about AVP is here. I watched a lot of reviews already but this is the most important one for me. You never disappoint, thank you!

  • @chrikke
    @chrikke 11 місяців тому +44

    I haven't tried the Vision Pro, but the fact it lacks so many shared experiences is insane to me.
    Someone on Reddit posted a recent story of introducing his friend to the Quest 3. They were several hundred miles away, and they were playing Pokerstars VR. After closing the app, he could immediately see his room, with his friend several hundred miles away, and the same for his friend. The fact you can't do that on Vision Pro is *fucking* wild to me.
    Spending 3500 just to do work a little more effectively is insane to me. The Vision Pro is really cool hardware wise, but to me, it just seems like it gets boring after a week of owning.

    • @glennwatson3313
      @glennwatson3313 11 місяців тому +4

      After closing the app, he could immediately see his room, with his friend several hundred miles away, and the same for his friend. The fact you can't do that on Vision Pro is fucking wild to me"
      I don't understand what you mean. When you turn of and take off the Vision Pro you can then also see your room. What am I not getting?

    • @chrikke
      @chrikke 11 місяців тому

      @@glennwatson3313 When you join a friend in online games, you can close apps, and see your friends avatar in your room, with passthrough

    • @Reddles37
      @Reddles37 11 місяців тому +7

      @@glennwatson3313 They were still using the headsets just in the default environment you get when you're not playing a game, but the headset put a virtual version of their friend in the room with them. At least for now Apple apparently has no way of sharing your VR experience with anyone else, even if they also have a headset.

    • @SargonDragon
      @SargonDragon 11 місяців тому +12

      @@glennwatson3313 He means his friend appeared in his room with him after closing the game. The Quest 3 can put your friend's avatar into the room with you in pass thru mode.
      The Quest 3 has a bunch of support for social experiences like this whereas the Vision Pro is more or less a completely isolating VR experience. The only social thing the Vision Pro has is its weird facetime support which gives you just flat 2D displays of other people like a video call but worse. The Vision Pro is completely missing any immersive socialization capability.

    • @glennwatson3313
      @glennwatson3313 11 місяців тому

      @@Reddles37 OK now I see. I have the Quest 3 but I have not experienced that situation. I don't play poker.

  • @ahmadshiddiqn
    @ahmadshiddiqn 11 місяців тому +1

    Like many others have said, we are really waiting for your review, the best and the most authentic reviews we can get about this vr industry. And it absolutely ate, great job! Thank you for your hard work!

  • @Buphido
    @Buphido 11 місяців тому +12

    Great review! Happy to finally see this headset reviewed by a source I trust when it says "this is amazing" when it’s amazing and "this sucks" not only because it’s apple.
    Also, I see you using the Metallic Rouge OST, caught me completely off-guard how full of gems the soundtrack is when I first heard it. xD

  • @AutoMotivate
    @AutoMotivate 11 місяців тому +1

    I almost solely use the Q3 without the controllers. If the Q3 can connect to the PC as easy as the VP can connect to a mac with the mouse user interface, I would be 10x happy. I am just trying to replace my monitors efficiently.

  • @boysenbeary
    @boysenbeary 11 місяців тому +47

    Been waiting for impressions by people with similar use cases to me

  • @danielricardo6644
    @danielricardo6644 11 місяців тому +4

    Long time viewer, first time commenter.
    The music, editing, insights, advice and contributions.
    Flawless. Thanks for all your hard work and keep it up dude!

  • @coltynstone-lamontagne
    @coltynstone-lamontagne 11 місяців тому +18

    Oh good, THE apple Vision Pro review is out!

  • @Bolt451
    @Bolt451 5 місяців тому +2

    I feel like a good tag line for the vision pro would be some thing like the "worlds greatest tech demo" it does what it specialises at very good but is to limited and expensive to be genuinely useful to most people.

  • @realquadmoo
    @realquadmoo 11 місяців тому +4

    Thanks a lot for making this video! I did the demo for Vision Pro, and I thought it was amazing, but this really puts it into proper context and I appreciate that!

  • @takcus
    @takcus 11 місяців тому +2

    The worst part of Vision Pro is that the new oculus will cost +1000usd. I remember the first flag Galaxies S were around 250-300$ and now they are the same price as iPhones. With meta quest will be probably the same

  • @steinscamus8037
    @steinscamus8037 11 місяців тому +6

    Yes Yes Yes, you and brad are the ones with the valuable input. Can't wait to watch : 3

    • @dtz1000
      @dtz1000 11 місяців тому +1

      This is true. I learned that for myself when I tried the Pimax Crystal. Brad was the most accurate. Too many youtube hype merchants around making affiliate money.

  • @inceptional
    @inceptional 11 місяців тому +18

    I'll tell you one thing VR needs in the near future, much better frikin' field of view. Get a Quest 4 that's basically the same as the Quest 3 but with a much bigger field of view and the eye tracking cameras and stuff so it could mimic Vision Pro UI navigation, as well as keep the price to $500 max, and I think we be onto a real winner.

    • @MidnightNachos
      @MidnightNachos 9 місяців тому +1

      doing that for under $500 does not sound possible within any less than 5 years unless it's a pcvr headset, and even then that seems like a huge maybe. that's extremely wishful thinking, and high end headsets are still pushing to even figure out how the hell to make fov much wider. and then once they figure it out I'm sure it'll take years for zuck to pick it up

    • @MarcusWarcus40
      @MarcusWarcus40 4 місяці тому

      Yeah keeping the price at 500 is just silly. Double the price. I dont care. Still a great value

  • @IronBran123
    @IronBran123 11 місяців тому +10

    God can this be #1 on trending? This is literally the best review over the Vision pro. Im so glad you took your time on this, it’s a great vid! 🙏

  • @FernandezF13
    @FernandezF13 11 місяців тому +2

    I love how hopeful you are in expecting both companies to step up and meet the needs of consumers. Never loose that joy.❤🤗

  • @Iisakki3000
    @Iisakki3000 11 місяців тому +41

    I've watched a couple reviews from much bigger channels and for some reason I still had no idea this is capable of fully immersive spacial apps. I legit thought that apple had limited it to floating windows in pass through or their pre-baked environments. Almost seems like apple really threw the ball with their marketing.
    Hands down the best review for this headset!

    • @blackoppsman702
      @blackoppsman702 11 місяців тому +4

      they didnt throw the ball, that just isn't a segment apple is interested in. gaming is going to be with the quest, at a fraction of the cost, there is no reason to compete on the gaming side of things. and apple has really never been a company TRULY interested in gaming. IMO this review is just a review from a vr gamers perspective, the other reviews are from a more regular persons perspective, apples target audience is the latter, not the former. Not that its a bad review, it just offers a different perspective to the other reviews, imo though that perspective is not from the target audience apple is looking to capture with this headset.

    • @Make-Money-Guy
      @Make-Money-Guy 11 місяців тому +1

      @TalkTechSAGA I thought I was dump, Im still trying to understand the benefits of using a such device today

    • @weird-guy
      @weird-guy 11 місяців тому +1

      Besides using it as a macbook screen or a ´productivity´ tool apparently theres nothing to do on it, meta is focus on gaming, personally i still don´t see the point in vr/ar for now.

    • @blackoppsman702
      @blackoppsman702 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@weird-guy That's alright, you don't have to see the point. The 2 TRILLION dollar company see's the point, and that should say everything that needs to be said.

  • @games4us132
    @games4us132 11 місяців тому +1

    Waited for Thrill's review, totally worth the wait. Keep up the good work!

  • @cvillan5
    @cvillan5 11 місяців тому +6

    this the only review i was waiting for

  • @lynxAzur
    @lynxAzur 11 місяців тому +1

    About the controller , the API has a game controller class which contains already Xbox, DualShock and dualsense profile
    I think that we will have a profile for the psvr2 controller soon
    But like the iPhone or the iPad , Apple want to force dev to use the main UI intereraction
    It is targeted to spatial computing, not as a game VR console … for now

  • @biopoepzakjesvideos672
    @biopoepzakjesvideos672 11 місяців тому +9

    Ive been craving for this for a week

  • @souporwormgaming
    @souporwormgaming 11 місяців тому +5

    VR Users: bro i just wanna play some cool games
    Meta: I hear you, the Metaverse will be here soon!
    VR Users: … why-
    Apple: Hi wanna play some mobile games and take pictures with a plant box on your face!?!
    VR Users: … I think ima just boot of my virtual boy.

  • @SeanoldBeasley
    @SeanoldBeasley 11 місяців тому +8

    Literally here within the first 5 minutes I could not wait for this

  • @HealyHQ
    @HealyHQ 11 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for sharing your experiences with these devices. Always love hearing from you, Thrill.

  • @symmetry8049
    @symmetry8049 11 місяців тому +7

    the worst part of the AVP is the general "walled garden" philosophy that apple puts into their products.
    The best part of the AVP is the general "if we do it, we do it RIGHT" philosophy that apple puts into their products.

  • @Glitch5970
    @Glitch5970 11 місяців тому +1

    why is your video brightness so low it's ironic for an apple vision pro review

  • @straqen4841
    @straqen4841 11 місяців тому +10

    I think the stepping stone aspect of the Vision Pro is what is really important, one of the biggest companies such as Apple stepping into XR is super important

    • @ceoofsony5924
      @ceoofsony5924 11 місяців тому +3

      I dont know, its too pricy. I think this is going to be a one and done tbh. Probably only valves next vr headset will be affordable while still having good tech. 3500 in 2024 is just an impossible ask even for a vr enthusiast.

    • @straqen4841
      @straqen4841 11 місяців тому

      @@ceoofsony5924 yeah it’s absolutely too pricey, I just think the effort of Apple stepping into it might make other companies want to try stepping into the market which just means more happening for Vr and Ar

    • @thenetherkinggaming9000
      @thenetherkinggaming9000 11 місяців тому

      ⁠​⁠@@ceoofsony5924but it’s not for vr enthusiasts it’s first gen, and meant for productivity. I personally like LTT’s take it’s not overpriced and it’s an incredibly advanced device but that doesn’t mean it’s worth the money. You’ve got to judge things for legitimate reasons

    • @straqen4841
      @straqen4841 11 місяців тому +2

      @@ceoofsony5924I completely agree it’s overpriced, I just think the fact that one of the worlds biggest companies is stepping into the VR and AR market is hopefully going to bring more companies and more competition which is absolutely needed

  • @1783W
    @1783W 11 місяців тому +1

    I’ve been using the Vision Pro for the past week and I’d say this is pretty accurate. The only thing I would add is that the camera quality just isn’t there yet for pass through. The display quality is amazing but I noticed I get more motion sick than with the other headsets. From what the video mentioned, I now know why and it’s unfortunate Apple shipped with a display that causes greater motion sickness.

  • @truebostoni4068
    @truebostoni4068 11 місяців тому +9

    Return of the King

    • @DanielGallo84
      @DanielGallo84 11 місяців тому

      he never left to return...quality videos take time that is all

  • @FollowingDopamine
    @FollowingDopamine 11 місяців тому +2

    I just bought the Q3 because of the release of the VP. I will end up with the VP "probably", but just not now. I use my stuff for entertainment. I want to watch ALL my stuff and immerse myself in the environment to watch this, with easy pass through IN COLOR (why Q3)...and it works. I'm impressed with the VP and I think it will move the market, but...that price is killer for honestly what feels like a beta product, not just a gen 1.

  • @HIDDEN_ORIGIN_DnB
    @HIDDEN_ORIGIN_DnB 11 місяців тому +17

    I truly hope that Quest headsets in the future will adapt the controls of the Vision Pro. This control scheme seems so much more intuitive to use.

    • @maxmoch6044
      @maxmoch6044 11 місяців тому +8

      and still have controllers for games

    • @sussysimon
      @sussysimon 11 місяців тому

      yea like having full hand tracking and eye tracking but oyu can switch to controllers for games, would be amazing@@maxmoch6044

    • @Just-Ventras
      @Just-Ventras 11 місяців тому

      Pls NO ... Absolutely NOT .... If companys now start to ditch controllers because APPLE did it
      Like HOW .... Would u Controll movement in ANY game ... Thats is not stationary.....
      Selling a headset with no controllers is a STUPID decision and i sincerely hope apple makes no money on this like Zero let the right people develop VR apple just does shit so Differently that at some point they run out of ideas and the whole productline becomes stagnant look at iPhones.... They havnt changed in YEARS in any significant way
      Whilst android phones keep developing and experimenting not as much as back in the day BUT STILL
      The second i heard AVP and the bullshit with calling it Spacial Computing not VR and then people started calling VR SC instead i already felt like i wanna leave this planet
      I still miss my good old headphone jack ..... On my ANDROID phones ....
      Apple ships phones without chargers and all the others copy this "trend" Pleaaase for the love of everything thats holy i beg let apple loose money on this so they Stop fucking up the VR industry

    • @eon5323
      @eon5323 11 місяців тому +5

      Need some kind of unified eye tracking, hand tracking and controller input. Like a virtual cursor that can switch between the three inputs intuitive somehow.

    • @Shadowninja1200
      @Shadowninja1200 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@eon5323 Yep, It's actually frustrating that I have to physically set my controller down to use hand tracking in the quest 3. I'm using it standing up so there isn't exactly a convenient place to put my controllers. The lack of eye tracking in the quest 3 is where I feel meta dropped the ball because dynamic foveated render like we see in the psvr2 need to happen if we want high resolution games without killing performance by trying to render at those full high resolution that these displays have.

  • @scytob
    @scytob 11 місяців тому +2

    as someone who has had both Quest 3 and Apple Vision Pro - this was a fair and accurate review. and the conclusion resonated with me.

  • @oof3115
    @oof3115 11 місяців тому +4

    Been waiting for this video

  • @Saddayz92
    @Saddayz92 Місяць тому

    My son has had one since it came out and he totally adores it and uses it every day.

  • @Ryzawa
    @Ryzawa 11 місяців тому +5

    Been waiting excitedly for this one. Watched Marques' multiple videos on it even though I could never afford it.

  • @Jaytwos
    @Jaytwos 11 місяців тому +1

    I like how everyone is in agreement this is the best review it's so wholesome to see

  • @CadeXR
    @CadeXR 11 місяців тому +5

    software and hardware wise its the most impressive headset I have seen to date
    however, its just not a needed device for alot of people, but its an amazing glimpse of the future of the tech once it starts to trickle down
    if anything I hope meta takes this as a sign to remove alot of the bloat of the questOS and streamline it all

    • @PSYCHOV3N0M
      @PSYCHOV3N0M 11 місяців тому

      A lot.
      NOT alot.

    • @CadeXR
      @CadeXR 11 місяців тому +2

      @@PSYCHOV3N0M thanks grammar police

  • @chunkymonky5364
    @chunkymonky5364 11 місяців тому

    So many tech channels covering vr, but I always get super excited for a new video from Thrill. Hopefully he'll soon get more recognition that he deserves. Much love from Czechia ❤

  • @wavebend1474
    @wavebend1474 11 місяців тому +22

    I hope Apple watches this video, you nailed everything perfectly

    • @PSYCHOV3N0M
      @PSYCHOV3N0M 11 місяців тому +2

      Watching a video and actually making changes are two completely different things.
      Don't hold your breath.

    • @parttimehuman
      @parttimehuman 11 місяців тому +5

      I love Apple, but they can be stubborn as hell. They want everybody to just get used to the way they want us to navigate. But it's kinda of horseshit that that requires doing away with controllers that would make gaming WAY better. If they allowed for controllers and Steam.. oh boy.. I might even get one.

    • @chaosengine3772
      @chaosengine3772 11 місяців тому +3

      And do what? Apple is what they do... Take existing tech and concepts, bundle it all up. Fisher-Price it down for the masses and put a shiny wrapper on it. Then keeps the keys to their garden of walls where every thing is soldered and locked down. Their kingdom, their rules. Expect the AVP to stay simple.

    • @parttimehuman
      @parttimehuman 11 місяців тому

      @@chaosengine3772 lol Jesus H

    • @blackoppsman702
      @blackoppsman702 11 місяців тому +1

      @@parttimehuman gamers arent and have never been apples target audience. they quite honestly just dont care if you buy one or not as you aren't who they are trying to get to buy one. Apple is very clearly aiming for people who haven't bought VR before and would likely never use it for gaming.

  • @DREWDOWN3
    @DREWDOWN3 11 місяців тому +1

    I appreciate someone actually taking their time to provide a well thought out review, rather than rushing to get the “clout” attention.

  • @at76103
    @at76103 11 місяців тому +11

    I haven't watched any reviews in anticipation of this. Thanks for doing what you do

    • @dtz1000
      @dtz1000 11 місяців тому +2

      I have watched so many reviews and this is the best one.

  • @xander9460
    @xander9460 11 місяців тому +2

    It's "proprietary, closed ecosystem" components are going to seriously hold it back. It's stil great to see it though. Good for development of the VR tech =)

  • @ArvindJuneja
    @ArvindJuneja 11 місяців тому +6

    Oh I was waiting with my article for like 2 weeks for you :)) thanks!

  • @c64cosmin
    @c64cosmin 11 місяців тому +1

    Don't forget this was all done years before by Microsoft with the HoloLens, I had played with it a bit in the past and made some apps for it too, essentially it is the same thing, just that HoloLens was true AR.

  • @dexterjaekel
    @dexterjaekel 11 місяців тому +4

    Great review. I love your takes on it

  • @aaiuto23
    @aaiuto23 11 місяців тому +1

    I used the Vision Pro for 10 days before returning it yesterday. I came to the same conclusion that you did in the end: this tech is incredible, but it's not there yet as a consumer device for the general public.

  • @Noah-ns2tx
    @Noah-ns2tx 11 місяців тому +21

    finally i hear bad things about the vision pro and not just "this is the best thing ever with no flaws"

    • @tyawesome111
      @tyawesome111 11 місяців тому +3

      THIS!!!! Everyone else reviewing it that I've seen just raves about it and doesn't really know the VR market like Thrill does

    • @Deliveredmean42
      @Deliveredmean42 11 місяців тому

      I mean, there were a few since launch. So not entirely true. Especially if you look pass the "thumbnail" from trusted tech reviewers.

    • @JohnDoe-wg1uj
      @JohnDoe-wg1uj 11 місяців тому +3

      what? every review ive seen has said it has many flaws

  • @VR-Fanatic666
    @VR-Fanatic666 11 місяців тому +1

    Finally, a software review on the inside of the product, by a professional that is not just flexing the new expensive hardware he just bought.... With a combination of no understanding of VR equipment (99% of youtube VP reviews) Best VP review to date.
    Too many people want to tell you about what they have with no idea what they have.
    Thanks Thrill!

    • @VR-Fanatic666
      @VR-Fanatic666 11 місяців тому +1

      11:13 A wild Pussy Cat APPEARED (Battle?)

    • @VR-Fanatic666
      @VR-Fanatic666 11 місяців тому +1

      If i could play VRC on a Vision Pro, It would be my Spicey Tuna

    • @VR-Fanatic666
      @VR-Fanatic666 11 місяців тому

      Apparently saying pussy gets MSG deleted

  • @groovejunky2549
    @groovejunky2549 11 місяців тому +5

    The definitive review is out. As as a VP and Q3 user I feel like this was very fair to both units and I like the conclusion you drew about how they compliment each other by focusing on different areas of the user experience. We do have a long way to go, but after working in VP for weeks now I’m convinced we are going there.

  • @benbionic
    @benbionic 11 місяців тому

    I’ve been loving my Vision Pro, developing for it and porting my apps is kinda odd but nice. It’s so nice to have my standalone apps no longer struggle with frame rates.

  • @luckylanno
    @luckylanno 11 місяців тому +5

    Pretty much nailed it. I got to say that it is the first headset that I've been able to wear comfortably for 10 hours a day. I think that mostly it comes down to the options for the facial interface.

  • @The_Python_Turtle
    @The_Python_Turtle 11 місяців тому +1

    Watched all 20min. Loved this review. Thank you thrill ❤

  • @Cobbbler
    @Cobbbler 11 місяців тому +15

    After watching this review, it's just so obvious that all the other reviewers have nearly no experience with VR or knowledge of the industry...

    • @PSYCHOV3N0M
      @PSYCHOV3N0M 11 місяців тому +2

      So annoying right??
      The non VR expert UA-camrs praising the hell out of the Vision Pro without mentioning important drawbacks like high persistence, lack of shared experiences, etc.

  • @Millicente
    @Millicente 11 місяців тому

    I agree with basically everything here. I really loved the AVP when I tried it and I'd love to buy one myself but I can't justify it right now for what it does and doesn't do. It does make me very very excited for the AVP 2 and Quest Pro 2 though, even the Quest 4 by extension. One of my problems with Meta has always been UI and user experience. It's why I own an iphone, it is just intuitive and apple really does do fundamentals so well that you don't have to think twice about anything. On the Quest I'm always expecting to have to tap something multiple times, or pull the trigger multiple times, or for some part of the OS to crash.

  • @dimakor5914
    @dimakor5914 11 місяців тому +7

    I bought Quest 3 recently just to watch for myself wtat VR is about. And to watch movies lying down in bed. This is the great thing about Quest 3, the price tag. 500$ is not a big deal.

  • @BlazingTigerStriker
    @BlazingTigerStriker 7 днів тому

    This is exactly the kind of content I was looking for.

  • @Kevinlift
    @Kevinlift 11 місяців тому +8

    Finally made a video about this

  • @Goodsdogs
    @Goodsdogs 11 місяців тому +1

    Do you have anything like testing standards for VR headsets it be interesting to see your methodology/standards that are important to you/us.

  • @tebasak1
    @tebasak1 11 місяців тому +5

    Finally the only review of the Pro that matters!

  • @mac2phoot
    @mac2phoot 11 місяців тому +1

    YOUR ABSOLUTELY WHAT WE ALL BEEN WAITING ON.....POINT BLANK PERIOD

  • @CBGENESIS
    @CBGENESIS 11 місяців тому +4

    I actually think that vision pro is actually damaging the perception of VR with its price tag like the mobile/Google cardboard headsets did. Vision pro will get boring a year after without proper controllers or satisfying gaming functionalities this headset will never age well. Uncomfortable, too heavy, too late and too expensive...

    • @dtz1000
      @dtz1000 11 місяців тому

      It's kind of cheap compared to the Varjo XR-4.

  • @MMC619
    @MMC619 11 місяців тому +1

    Without big games like mass effect and others I don’t see vr ever becoming popular

  • @joekavalauskas8767
    @joekavalauskas8767 11 місяців тому +4

    I’m worried about our boy. He is can I ask this without getting downvoted… what’s with the mask inside your own apartment?

    • @mrfacephone
      @mrfacephone 11 місяців тому +3

      Looks like he's made a character out of being a paranoid sheep.

    • @ThrillSeekerVR
      @ThrillSeekerVR  11 місяців тому +2

      I just don't show my face, about it

    • @allanshpeley4284
      @allanshpeley4284 7 місяців тому

      @@ThrillSeekerVR Can you tell us why? Are you trying to protect your privacy? Do you have horrible acne? Were you disfigured in an automobile accident? Are you insecure about your looks?

  • @98tillnow
    @98tillnow 11 місяців тому

    This is the only Vision Pro video. I’ve been actually waiting for

  • @stcredzero
    @stcredzero 11 місяців тому +9

    If a VR headset makes Phia's jaw drop, there's something to it!

  • @MrGridStrom
    @MrGridStrom 11 місяців тому

    This is by far the best video on youtube demonstrating what the Apple Vision Pro can actually do. I'm totally blown away.

  • @Esoto826
    @Esoto826 11 місяців тому +5

    Thank you so much for your insightful review and I love that Hatsune Miku shirt.

  • @jerrycaddie838
    @jerrycaddie838 11 місяців тому +1

    I'm surprised you didn't mention the passthrough is not as amazing as advertised. Its great but we were told its like looking out a window, but its like looking out a tinted, slightly grainy window. Not as bad as quest 3 but I wasn't expecting passthrough to be even slightly a problem.