The newest version of this machine has a real on the back that feeds a braided stainless cable into the center of the curb for extra support and to stop it from cracking and separating.
They do offer curb machines now with the wire roll however it's really only common where they have hard freezes and shifting soil. It doesn't prevent cracking, it only prevents separation after cracking which is already very uncommon. -21 years of curbing experience.
This is a very common lawn feature in central & south Florida...it lasts forever. They used a mix that's less runny so it dries faster b/c it rains basically everyday in FL. It still takes about a month to fully cure. You can also get customized designs & colors.
It would be nice to see if Lil Bubba can go the other direction - right to left. Also, showing how they complete the pour if there isn't enough room for the machine. In prepping for Lil Bubba, did they use a trencher to remove the sod? Just curious about details of the process.
The sod was cut away with a shovel in places that needed it. I had pulled out old shrubs and was re-doing the whole area with new plantings, so the area was pretty open and waiting for the curbs. When the curb gets close to a sidewalk or other stopping point the curb is slopped down and a small space left to allow water drainage....those areas were hand finished.
Can you adjust the machine so that it lays down the mow curb as even with the surrounding lawn so that it does not stick up in the air too far, or does that depend on the depth of the foundation? Also, if the ground is not perfectly level so that all the wheels, and the machine itself is level, doesn't that affect you finished product?
The machine will follow the contour of the ground and nothing is totally flat. If you carve out the ground you could level and make the curb lower and align more to be flush with your grass. You really want a curb to keep mulch back and allow string trimmers to work without kicking up mulch.
Very cool. Complaints that it's not up to milspec standards are misplaced. A job is done to a budget or done to a standard. If you want high standards then expect a much higher price.
I was considering this for my yard, but have little faith in it not cracking and becoming uneven with the intense heat and freezes on clay soil in north Texas. What's the average life of these curbs?
I changed my sprinklers to a drip irrigation system, the video for how I did that is here ua-cam.com/video/jGVegyraAno/v-deo.html&ab_channel=TheLazyDayz
I believe it would make for a more solid base ...since there is no force against the curb i.e. cars bumping against it, etc. it has done well since being installed. I sealed the cement and no issues thus far.
@@cynsational8700 I used a sealer that can be bought at Lowes, it works well and you definetly need it. The cement gets black and moldy if you dont seal. I reapply every 2 years.
@@LazyDayz316 Do you mind sharing the exact one you use? Different brands differ and if the one you have is working for you I'm interested in that exact one.
@@cynsational8700 This is it! You can get concetrate and add water to it...or get one already diluted and ready to use. www.lowes.com/pd/Eco-Advance-Clear-Flat-Concentrated-Mildew-Resistant-Mold-Resistant-Waterproofer-Actual-Net-Contents-16-fl-oz/50224777
Joe VK it’s the same basic principles they use for street gutters and all of those are poured with no footings, no rebar, no wire, etc and they do just fine. The theory behind all of this is that because the curbing is poured directly on top of the ground and there is nothing pinning it down trying to keep it from moving so it will actually move back and forth in minute amounts which will in turn prevent cracks from occurring and that’s why it’s important to trowel in expansion grooves or put saw cuts in every 8-10’ so that when it does crack it will do it at that location and prevent ugly cracks from occurring elsewhere if that makes sense. If you inserted a short piece of rebar into an existing driveway, walkway, or foundation and “tied” the curb to that then it would crack all over because it would be tied in place and can’t move like it wants to
How do you keep it so flat. Its been build up on me. Starts over lapping itself. What am I doing wrong. How much water do you use. I've been using 4 buckets of sand to 1 concrete full bucket and 3 gallons of water.
The cost will depend on wether you choose to add a fancy texture, special shape curb, or a stained (colored) finish. We didn't go with any "extras" and it was $425
They hand finish the entire curb with a trowel shaped like the curb being poured. When they come to an end the curb is slopped downward "pinched off" sort of and finished very nicely.
I would say fairly close, the machine has to have room to operate, roll on it's wheels, etc. Check with a local business that does curbs...they could look at your property and tell you what is possible.
I have one small hairline crack in the back of the house...I bumped it pretty hard with my lawn tractor wheel when cutting the grass. Overall it is looking good though!
If you don't mind me asking... how much per foot would you consider a good price? I'm looking to get quotes but unsure what would be a reasonable price. Thanks for the response and video!
All I know is what was on the side of the machine "Lil-Buba". The company who did the install work owned it, I did not....not sure what other manufacturers are out there. I suggest a google search and you should find what you need!
There are various curb sizes and shapes that can be selected. We chose this very simple and smaller version that is about 6” wide and around 5-7” tall (it slopes).
I had another person comment that a newer machine does actually pull rebar from a spool as the machine is making the curb I have not seen one but it would definitely be stronger if you need it to be.
Yes, the slump rate is on the dry side, the installer said that it is supposed to be that way. It has been over a year since we installed it and it still looks great so far!
It’s going to take more than 2 people to keep this operation moving unless you are paying for a ready mix truck standing by all day with Concrete although from the photos it does look like it does a decent job
@@davidwatkins9163 dude! When you watch a video, absorb what is going on. He said 175 linear feet at least twice. That's probably why he didn't respond.
Just lay that straight on the dirt.. no sort of base to keep it from sinking and cracking? I don’t see that looking good very long. Should show a video a year from now.
They packed the ground before laying the curb, no sand base or anything. All cement will crack even new driveways I have seen poured and relief cuts placed. After a few years, they crack. I have a couple cracks, one where my riding mower hit the curb and another random one.
It went well with two guys, cement sets up so keeping the machine "fed" with cement allows the curb machine to never stop and get the job done quicker too.
So, did that include the sod removal or did you do that , i liked the dyed look of some projects it accented other colors of what was planted, the dye is cheap that they add its the clean up of the equipment i suppose
The men did the sod prep/removal as needed. I did not get the dyes added to my curb,I have seen the colored and stamped curbs also and they look good too. It’s really all about budget and preference. Thanks for watching.
You don't use footings for curbs you tool. Footings are used for structure, curbs aren't designed to be structural. They are intended to be a containment. Spend some time in the concrete business then come talk to me.
It's been several years and it's doing very well, I sealed it with a with a good quality cement sealer. I agree this would fail if it was a car lot curb,etc. and vehicles bumped against it, etc. The curb just holds soil/mulch in place and looks nice, no undue pressure slamming against it.
I can do 4000 ft. in 1 hour by myself and I only have one arm. There I got you all beat! I also got both balls blown off in Iraq. I have a govt. job now it starts at 8 but I don't have to be there until 10 because the first 2 hours they just sit around scratching their nuts. Take that.
That curb won’t last a year the most maybe couple months. The most important thing when doing this either stone or retaining wall etc it’s base!!! That has no base at all what kind of work is this? Horrible !!
We bought our house and it already had this type of edging already and love it so much. Can rub the mower right along it too.
This is Gorgeous!! Love how it turned out. I’m going to have to look into this.
The newest version of this machine has a real on the back that feeds a braided stainless cable into the center of the curb for extra support and to stop it from cracking and separating.
that sounds like a great idea
What is it called? cannot find it.
@@aSTaRRBoRNN the curb debot they’re located in Wisconsin
They do offer curb machines now with the wire roll however it's really only common where they have hard freezes and shifting soil. It doesn't prevent cracking, it only prevents separation after cracking which is already very uncommon.
-21 years of curbing experience.
Any update on how this held up? Thinking about getting into this and adding it to my renovation work. Any thoughts, pros/cons?
This is a very common lawn feature in central & south Florida...it lasts forever. They used a mix that's less runny so it dries faster b/c it rains basically everyday in FL. It still takes about a month to fully cure. You can also get customized designs & colors.
will not last in the cold regions. Here in Canada they look nice at first but will crack and heave and separate.
How do yall think it would do in Dallas Texas
It would be nice to see if Lil Bubba can go the other direction - right to left. Also, showing how they complete the pour if there isn't enough room for the machine. In prepping for Lil Bubba, did they use a trencher to remove the sod? Just curious about details of the process.
The sod was cut away with a shovel in places that needed it. I had pulled out old shrubs and was re-doing the whole area with new plantings, so the area was pretty open and waiting for the curbs. When the curb gets close to a sidewalk or other stopping point the curb is slopped down and a small space left to allow water drainage....those areas were hand finished.
Looks good. I'm going to go by the machine and make money doing that now.
Hey i’m thinking about doing the same thing and am wondering how it went for you?
Did you make it happen
I would imagine you can color mortar just like concrete?
Yes
Dude, looking for a side business or a main job this is it.
The fever hit my street.....the neighbor directly beside me and across the street both had curbs done !
Can you adjust the machine so that it lays down the mow curb as even with the surrounding lawn so that it does not stick up in the air too far, or does that depend on the depth of the foundation? Also, if the ground is not perfectly level so that all the wheels, and the machine itself is level, doesn't that affect you finished product?
The machine will follow the contour of the ground and nothing is totally flat. If you carve out the ground you could level and make the curb lower and align more to be flush with your grass. You really want a curb to keep mulch back and allow string trimmers to work without kicking up mulch.
How has this held up? Any cracks? Or movement?
I have two cracks, I caused one with my lawn tractor, overall they look pretty good after a few years
Very cool.
Complaints that it's not up to milspec standards are misplaced.
A job is done to a budget or done to a standard. If you want high standards then expect a much higher price.
How much does it cost per foot
My state, facebook market place $1 linear foot, mininum 500 ft
Is that including labor and materials
@@chadspinalbosd007 What state is that? I got two quotes in California this August, and one was for $9.00 and the other for $10.00 per linear foot.
@@CarlosGarcia-ls4hn Cali is strict on environmental and earthquake requirements, plus inspections and fees.
Usually landscape curbing is not made with concrete, it's made with cement which has not rocks in it. Much easier to smooth out.
Yeah I work for a curb company we use 88 pound bags of commercial cement powder and some sand
What's the difference as far as wear and tear?
I was considering this for my yard, but have little faith in it not cracking and becoming uneven with the intense heat and freezes on clay soil in north Texas. What's the average life of these curbs?
So did you leave the sprinklers in their filmed locations, or move them? I want to do this, but am not sure about the need to relocate things. Thanks
I changed my sprinklers to a drip irrigation system, the video for how I did that is here ua-cam.com/video/jGVegyraAno/v-deo.html&ab_channel=TheLazyDayz
Wouldn’t it be a good idea to put a base down as with all concrete?
I believe it would make for a more solid base ...since there is no force against the curb i.e. cars bumping against it, etc. it has done well since being installed. I sealed the cement and no issues thus far.
@@LazyDayz316 What did you use to seal it? I just had this don't want to regret it.
@@cynsational8700 I used a sealer that can be bought at Lowes, it works well and you definetly need it. The cement gets black and moldy if you dont seal. I reapply every 2 years.
@@LazyDayz316 Do you mind sharing the exact one you use? Different brands differ and if the one you have is working for you I'm interested in that exact one.
@@cynsational8700 This is it! You can get concetrate and add water to it...or get one already diluted and ready to use. www.lowes.com/pd/Eco-Advance-Clear-Flat-Concentrated-Mildew-Resistant-Mold-Resistant-Waterproofer-Actual-Net-Contents-16-fl-oz/50224777
Thank you for the video. I often wondered how it was done and thanks to you, I now know. :)
I would be worried about frost up North. It will break up the first year.
here in northern Alberta(Canada) we use them everywhere and no issue
Any problems develop due to not putting down a footing?
None so far.
Joe VK it’s the same basic principles they use for street gutters and all of those are poured with no footings, no rebar, no wire, etc and they do just fine.
The theory behind all of this is that because the curbing is poured directly on top of the ground and there is nothing pinning it down trying to keep it from moving so it will actually move back and forth in minute amounts which will in turn prevent cracks from occurring and that’s why it’s important to trowel in expansion grooves or put saw cuts in every 8-10’ so that when it does crack it will do it at that location and prevent ugly cracks from occurring elsewhere if that makes sense.
If you inserted a short piece of rebar into an existing driveway, walkway, or foundation and “tied” the curb to that then it would crack all over because it would be tied in place and can’t move like it wants to
Very nice. But, typically, how much does this cost? (per foot)
I believe $4-$7, it all depends on selected curb size, if you add a color, or stamped pattern.
7.00
We do 12 a foot and 1200 ft average a day here in colorado!
How do you keep it so flat. Its been build up on me. Starts over lapping itself. What am I doing wrong. How much water do you use. I've been using 4 buckets of sand to 1 concrete full bucket and 3 gallons of water.
Where you able to resolve this issue.?
Idk if this helps. But we use about 40-45 shovels of cement sand to a 94 Portland cement bag. We get about 100 linear feet with that mix
94 lb pound bag
Looks great.but needs more support(rebar,concrete w/fiber )you know just so it doesnt crack.
Pretty cool looks like it takes alot of skill, if the machine is not alone a right it would be crooked lol
Has any try this on a little slope?
Yes, I have neighbors with them on a small slope,
what kind of mix you used??
Approximately how much would a job like this cost?
The cost will depend on wether you choose to add a fancy texture, special shape curb, or a stained (colored) finish. We didn't go with any "extras" and it was $425
for how many feet
How did they do the end when they are backed up to house
They hand finish the entire curb with a trowel shaped like the curb being poured. When they come to an end the curb is slopped downward "pinched off" sort of and finished very nicely.
11:27 Where can you rent or buy that machine.
Is this a CDF mix
What type of Portland?
Portland cement 94 lbs bag and cement sand
dis you buy or rent the machine?
I had a local business do the job
I want to purchase this
How close to the fence can that machine get?
I would say fairly close, the machine has to have room to operate, roll on it's wheels, etc. Check with a local business that does curbs...they could look at your property and tell you what is possible.
It doesn’t look terrible. I just prefer a nice looking brick or rock layout rather than concrete
they can stamp that print into these curbs also just costs extra to finish it like that
Yea we do that here in colorado colors 415/417 in your mix will give you a nice brick color followed by a stamp roller with the brick design!
Quiero un máquina de esas dónde la puedo comprar
What cost are we talking about
$4 to $7 depending on curb size/shape and if you stamp a pattern on it. Also you can add colorant, these would all be add on costs per foot.
How is it holding up?
I have one small hairline crack in the back of the house...I bumped it pretty hard with my lawn tractor wheel when cutting the grass. Overall it is looking good though!
If you don't mind me asking... how much per foot would you consider a good price? I'm looking to get quotes but unsure what would be a reasonable price. Thanks for the response and video!
@@dillonthompson9656 he said elsewhere its 4-7$/ft
Check out the reviews before you do that. Some of these places are troublesome.@@dillonthompson9656
can you make the music go just a little bit louder,
resting on soil, I'm sure it wont crack at all.
you obviously don't know what you're talking about
Roots lift it, boom
I like Lil' Bubba
What's the proper name of that machine? Thanks
All I know is what was on the side of the machine "Lil-Buba". The company who did the install work owned it, I did not....not sure what other manufacturers are out there. I suggest a google search and you should find what you need!
Looks nice, but in a cold climate with freezing and thawing everything heaves. I would imagine that would crack up good.
your probably correct, this is a hot climate area
should add a foundation in cold climates
@@dw2843 wht type of foundation would this require for a cold climate like Minnesota ?
width and depth?
There are various curb sizes and shapes that can be selected. We chose this very simple and smaller version that is about 6” wide and around 5-7” tall (it slopes).
I had another person comment that a newer machine does actually pull rebar from a spool as the machine is making the curb I have not seen one but it would definitely be stronger if you need it to be.
@@LazyDayz316 lol I wanna see one with a rebar spool
What all in your mixes? Sand, Portland and ?????
And color if u want that's all
Where did you rent the curbing machine?
I hired a company to do the work.
Love it!!
Did you rent the machine?
No, the curbs were done by a local business.
No, We had a local business install them.
TheLazyDayz how much per foot?
Isn’t it kinda dry?
Yes, the slump rate is on the dry side, the installer said that it is supposed to be that way. It has been over a year since we installed it and it still looks great so far!
Dude sounds like Kip from Napoleon Dynamite
It is Aaron Ruell "Kip", he actually works for this Company now since ending his acting Career...
Did I get ya? :P
That concrete is supposed to be dry like that. 0-1 slump concrete .
Fukn sweet man
Love it
NJ slotguy uses the same intro music
I wonder U will take the job.
He does!
How much does something like this cost?
It depends on the size of the curb and add ons like colorant and stamping designs in the curb. I kept it simple and it was around $400
What the the name of that machine?
It’s going to take more than 2 people to keep this operation moving unless you are paying for a ready mix truck standing by all day with Concrete although from the photos it does look like it does a decent job
two guys did this in about 3-4 hrs.
@@LazyDayz316 how many feet was it?
@@davidwatkins9163 dude! When you watch a video, absorb what is going on. He said 175 linear feet at least twice. That's probably why he didn't respond.
@@weejohnbb😂
@@weejohnbb "Dude?"
OMG , 4 hours for 175 ft? Think you need to check out a PR Sting from Borderline. 200 ft an hour, youtube....
Pr sting
I think your borderline crazy
Yea here in colorado we are banging out 1200 ft a day average between 4-6 houses. Done by 1-2pm at the latest!!!!
What if I wanted 4 in in the front is six inches in the back
There are different shapes and sizes of molds to make the curbs, just check with your installer
Thats what she said!
lol
@@LazyDayz316 that's what I was asking I don't know where these other people get their ideas
That's another topic.
Das is ja der reinste Pfusch .. typisch für ungelernte Hobby Handwerker !!!!
Not wet enough
Got to be dry or it will not hold it's shape.
The only purpose of this is as a lawn edging.
Just lay that straight on the dirt.. no sort of base to keep it from sinking and cracking? I don’t see that looking good very long. Should show a video a year from now.
They packed the ground before laying the curb, no sand base or anything. All cement will crack even new driveways I have seen poured and relief cuts placed. After a few years, they crack. I have a couple cracks, one where my riding mower hit the curb and another random one.
It's fine on dirt concrete cracks it's a fact use 1 and half bags cement a mix 👍
C'mon is a concrete edging you need no base for it wtf
Looks like my mexican food from last night.
LOL
LazyDayz wtf?
Who in St. Louis can do this edging?
Do a search for cement curb installers, that is how I found my installer.
u forgot the pattern, and wire through the brick
But you have to have two guys?
It went well with two guys, cement sets up so keeping the machine "fed" with cement allows the curb machine to never stop and get the job done quicker too.
@@LazyDayz316 LOL @ Lillian with the sexist pun
no offense but that curbing is wavy and unlevel it should take less than 4 hours to do 170 ft
Hahhha that’s a fact. Here in colorado we do 1200ft average 4-6 houses each day and are done by 1-2 at the latest!!
No stamp no color plain curb no way dude u cheating the people 😅😅😅 i do this .
It's not finished, and he said that, too.
Expansion joints created. Colour, stamping & sealing yet to come
no the coloring is done in the mix stop it @@jeffsmith5311
I like it plain. That’s how I’m doing mine. Keeps a cleaner look.
I'd like to see a colored one
this looks to involve at least four guys, isnt going to be cheap or reasonable to get done thats for dam sure
wisco It was only 2 men at 4 hrs cost of $425 - well worth it to us.
So, did that include the sod removal or did you do that , i liked the dyed look of some projects it accented other colors of what was planted, the dye is cheap that they add its the clean up of the equipment i suppose
The men did the sod prep/removal as needed. I did not get the dyes added to my curb,I have seen the colored and stamped curbs also and they look good too. It’s really all about budget and preference. Thanks for watching.
that mixture is very dry
I thought so too - but the end result is very nice and solid.
so how many cracks do you have now that its cured
the structure is too weak always had to put a footing to make it stronger that's a fact Jack.
You don't use footings for curbs you tool. Footings are used for structure, curbs aren't designed to be structural. They are intended to be a containment. Spend some time in the concrete business then come talk to me.
These type curbs are purely decorative and to edge a lawn. Not intended for structure, dipshit
You sound so stupid
This is going to crack in a million different places
It's been several years and it's doing very well, I sealed it with a with a good quality cement sealer. I agree this would fail if it was a car lot curb,etc. and vehicles bumped against it, etc. The curb just holds soil/mulch in place and looks nice, no undue pressure slamming against it.
TheLazyDayz the ground must not freeze there ....I don’t think you would have the same result in New York
4 hours for 175 feet!?!?! My two man crew can do 300 feet in 4 hours...
that is great!
Give the crew a medal.!!!!
i like the price of that
better slow and easy then everyone does a good job
I can do 4000 ft. in 1 hour by myself and I only have one arm. There I got you all beat! I also got both balls blown off in Iraq. I have a govt. job now it starts at 8 but I don't have to be there until 10 because the first 2 hours they just sit around scratching their nuts. Take that.
Personally.... i think it looks nasty & cheap.
Like your wife
That curb won’t last a year the most maybe couple months. The most important thing when doing this either stone or retaining wall etc it’s base!!! That has no base at all what kind of work is this? Horrible !!
The base was compacted and it's been fine for several years. I agree, the base is key to any cement job.
Dude it's not the 80's get better music Tim the tool man
Looks like crap, wont last long at all