I watched one of your videos and got hooked. The way you explain things is amazing. Love the videos we need some wheeling videos🤘🏼 absolutely amazing production as well
Garrett you did great man! I did this swap prior. But regardless you put this out the community and I’m grateful! It’s a full how to for us 4th gen 4runner owners. Thank you ! You rock. Love the music love the editing! Didn’t miss a single step!
The center locker was mostly for the full time 4wd, which was standard on all v8 4Runners. On Full time 4wd models, the transfer case had a torsen differential which when not locked had a 30% front and 70% rear power distribution. When locked, its basically the same as 4 HI (50F/50R power distribution). The manual tcase has no torsen diff (hence the shorter case), as it's not a full time 4WD case. Hope this helps.
Came here to say the same. Manual transfer-cases are part-time. Meaning they are either engaged or disengaged. They don't have a torsen or some other diff inside that allows for slip between front/rear, so they do not need a center lock. They are fully locked when in 4-hi or 4-lo.
nicely done, been thinking of doing manual tcase swap for a while since my actuator o ring is leaking, a known problem for us V8 owner. you make it look so easy and simple. lol. got me looking at tcase online.
Great video man! Lots of helpful information and shots, I'm going to have to get this done now. Regarding the front driveshaft I've seen a couple people mention they swapped in a 1st gen Tundra front driveshaft and it's basically the perfect length for this application.
Love the details! Very inspiring! I have an '06 SR5, and I can appreciate your sentiments about how long it takes to shift between the modes on the transfer case! Thank you for doing all this!
I had ECGS rebuild and re-gear my diffs. They are also warranted and the shipping wasn't horrible. I highly recommend going this route. That being said, if you are running a 4th gen 4Runner, early FJ Cruiser (2007-2009) or GX470, they all have the smaller 8" rear diff which is known to break because of the higher torque motors and added weight of these vehicles (ask me how I know). I would seriously recommend swapping an entire rear axle assembly from a 5th gen 4runner or 2010+ FJ Cruiser as Toyota upgraded to an 8.2" thats a big stronger than the 8". It's a direct bolt in swap. I did this swap on my 4th gen V8 runner, along with re-gearing and adding ARB air lockers. ;)
@@grantorresmo7609 Michael’s comment is great information🤙🏾 I went the ECGS route as well and it’s definitely more cost effective. I personally went with the 8” but highly debated the 8.2” swap. I didn’t feel knowledgeable enough so I stuck with the 8 but if you can do the 8.2” the definitely do it. There are people that are way more knowledgeable in the gearing area than me but I’ve definitely contemplated posting a video on it. If you look at my Instagram @thereal_alpha_line you’ll see a reel I made of me swapping the gears
There's another option for the ADD/engagement issue. If you convert to manual locking hubs (not sure how feasible that is on 4th gen) you won't have the full time drag on the front diff when 4wd isn't engaged. Front axle shafts will last longer cause they wont be spinning, and gas mileage will be marginally better. This is a common mod on 3rd gen.
@@Garrett_Logan o i get you absolutely 💯 i'd have to look into the rerouting for sure. I personally wouldn't mind it, but I have 3/5 year olds, so would have to have it, at least until they're older 😆
When going from 2wd to 4hi do you have to be stopped and neutral or can you switch while drivin? Fkn sick video. Been waiting on a comprehensive tutorial to do this myself. Thank you man sick rig sick vid 🤙🏼
Any issues with binding when turning after this since the front diff is always engaged looking in to doing this on my 3rd gen 4runner that had the electric transfer case and was wondering if you had binding after
Well my dash is lit up like crazy right now anyway lol. My lights are on due to the aftermarket cats and a abs sensor. But connecting the yellow and brown wire will make your lights go off
@@andrewgroshong4617 mine no longer works, however my 4x4 ecu is still unplugged and I have a couple other sensor issues I need to fix that could affect this
@@Ljt-31 honestly I have no idea of the exact numbers, I’ve done quite a bit so a new build video and price breakdown video are definitely in order. I think I’ve added around 11k worth of stuff, but I’d really have to go back and do the math. I have quite a few expensive parts like a regear ($3,200) Roof top tent ($3,200ish) Rear bumper ($2k) and the list goes on. I’m going to do a build video and then right after that do a cost breakdown video as well
I have the same thing in mine but with a switch wired up to actuate the ADD. If I actuate it and just constantly leave it engaged, will it have the same effect as what you did? Any downsides to this? Great video
@@Bbchamp1 okay gotcha, if you leave it engaged then essentially it should have the same effect as if you did it the same way I did. As far as any downsides there shouldn’t be any, but if I’m wrong then someone correct me here in the comments lol
@@Bubbamsr2011 that’s a good question, honestly I’m not educated enough in this area so I really can’t say, but I’m sure someone here in the comments knows. I’d post this question in the Facebook group🤙🏾
I watched one of your videos and got hooked. The way you explain things is amazing. Love the videos we need some wheeling videos🤘🏼 absolutely amazing production as well
Thanks haha!
Yeah I’m working on a little something👀
Well done Logan, long time coming I know.. Great job...
I'm going to like and comment after seeing you drop the heavy transfer case by yourself with your kids watching. Been there.
Haha definitely a struggle no doubt!
This was insane to watch. So sick.
Garrett you did great man! I did this swap prior. But regardless you put this out the community and I’m grateful! It’s a full how to for us 4th gen 4runner owners. Thank you ! You rock. Love the music love the editing! Didn’t miss a single step!
@@casewhitted1808 hey I’m just glad it can help someone! Thanks dude! I appreciate it!🙏🏾
Did the manual tcase swap on my v8 last month. Pretty solid video.
Thanks man!
Those kids were invested 🤣 Sweet video though, you definitely have some of the best 4th gen content on the internet 🤙
@@aaronconvery3 they definitely were haha my brothers are always invested in this kind of stuff😂
Thanks dude!
Great vid man! Next time fabricating a rod, use an old hanger or thin flat stock
I’m not doing the swap, but this was an awesome video.
that cut was on point!
Yeah I kinda surprised myself haha
The center locker was mostly for the full time 4wd, which was standard on all v8 4Runners. On Full time 4wd models, the transfer case had a torsen differential which when not locked had a 30% front and 70% rear power distribution. When locked, its basically the same as 4 HI (50F/50R power distribution). The manual tcase has no torsen diff (hence the shorter case), as it's not a full time 4WD case. Hope this helps.
Came here to say the same. Manual transfer-cases are part-time. Meaning they are either engaged or disengaged. They don't have a torsen or some other diff inside that allows for slip between front/rear, so they do not need a center lock. They are fully locked when in 4-hi or 4-lo.
@@michaellundgren1127 thanks for this info man!
nicely done, been thinking of doing manual tcase swap for a while since my actuator o ring is leaking, a known problem for us V8 owner. you make it look so easy and simple. lol. got me looking at tcase online.
@@Asian4runner you can’t go wrong with this swap man! Definitely do it!
Great video man! Lots of helpful information and shots, I'm going to have to get this done now. Regarding the front driveshaft I've seen a couple people mention they swapped in a 1st gen Tundra front driveshaft and it's basically the perfect length for this application.
@@vonrunner absolutely man!
Yeah I have heard of that before, I believe that shaft maybe a bit thinner but I could be wrong
Love the details! Very inspiring! I have an '06 SR5, and I can appreciate your sentiments about how long it takes to shift between the modes on the transfer case! Thank you for doing all this!
@@PRaysCorner absolutely!🤙🏾
Thank you so much for this!! Ordering a t case tomorrow!!
@@santiagomercant9206 absolutely! It’ll be your favorite upgrade by far!
Do a regear video please. I want to regear but don’t know where to start. I don’t want to send my 4Runner to the shop
I had ECGS rebuild and re-gear my diffs. They are also warranted and the shipping wasn't horrible. I highly recommend going this route. That being said, if you are running a 4th gen 4Runner, early FJ Cruiser (2007-2009) or GX470, they all have the smaller 8" rear diff which is known to break because of the higher torque motors and added weight of these vehicles (ask me how I know). I would seriously recommend swapping an entire rear axle assembly from a 5th gen 4runner or 2010+ FJ Cruiser as Toyota upgraded to an 8.2" thats a big stronger than the 8". It's a direct bolt in swap. I did this swap on my 4th gen V8 runner, along with re-gearing and adding ARB air lockers. ;)
@@grantorresmo7609 Michael’s comment is great information🤙🏾
I went the ECGS route as well and it’s definitely more cost effective. I personally went with the 8” but highly debated the 8.2” swap. I didn’t feel knowledgeable enough so I stuck with the 8 but if you can do the 8.2” the definitely do it.
There are people that are way more knowledgeable in the gearing area than me but I’ve definitely contemplated posting a video on it.
If you look at my Instagram @thereal_alpha_line you’ll see a reel I made of me swapping the gears
@@michaellundgren1127 great information dude!
There's another option for the ADD/engagement issue. If you convert to manual locking hubs (not sure how feasible that is on 4th gen) you won't have the full time drag on the front diff when 4wd isn't engaged. Front axle shafts will last longer cause they wont be spinning, and gas mileage will be marginally better. This is a common mod on 3rd gen.
I was considering doing this, but didn't realize you'd lose the rear air 😭 but nice work!!
@@skatinemcee I’ll take this mod over rear air any day haha. But I’ve seen someone run a tube so you can still get rear air with this mod
@@Garrett_Logan o i get you absolutely 💯 i'd have to look into the rerouting for sure. I personally wouldn't mind it, but I have 3/5 year olds, so would have to have it, at least until they're older 😆
@@skatinemcee that makes sense haha!
Gentleman and a scholar ❤❤❤
@@albetherechillin haha thanks!🙏🏾
When going from 2wd to 4hi do you have to be stopped and neutral or can you switch while drivin? Fkn sick video. Been waiting on a comprehensive tutorial to do this myself. Thank you man sick rig sick vid 🤙🏼
@@alphaftw1642 yeah so you can just be stopped and switch right into 4HI.
Thanks dude! I’m glad this helps!!!
I hope I get to do this mod one day!
So with the v8 you don't need the spacer? Awesome video, great information!
@@davidgastley1506 with the v8 you do need a spacer, I’d still get the same one I put in the video and you should be good!
Well done man thanks for making this video!
@@4runr absolutely man! Thanks!
This is absolutely awesome. And who cares about the driveshaft, It’s not like the front differential moves.
Thanks! That’s right!
Any issues with binding when turning after this since the front diff is always engaged looking in to doing this on my 3rd gen 4runner that had the electric transfer case and was wondering if you had binding after
@@robbielaw1452 nope no binding
You are nuts!! 🔥🔥
@@yikesforever6006sometimes you gotta be!😂
ayy im thinking of installing 4wd to my 03 4runner that is only 2wd, any thoughts ? Ive heard people use the fj crusier transmission
Yeah my buddy did that, you only need to swap the case I believe
Great vid brotha! this is sick 😎
@@Snipezart ayeee thanks my guy!
What tcases can you use for the swap the fj and newer 4runner ? Want to swap my v8 runner 🔥 vid
@@Ereek444 the automatic transmission FJ transfer cases is what is in both the 4Runner and FJ so that is the one you want to use
with the v8 will i be able to have 2wd then?
Yep sure will!
so what lights do you have on the dash? Im all for mods like this but hate having unnecessary lights on the dash 😅
Well my dash is lit up like crazy right now anyway lol. My lights are on due to the aftermarket cats and a abs sensor. But connecting the yellow and brown wire will make your lights go off
Hi bro ! The ligjts turn off fulltime or only disabled 4x4 ?
@ only the 4LO lights turn on and flash after you swap the cases. Once you do the wiring that I showed in the video then it all goes away
Hey, Awesome video. Does this upgrade effect or disable ATRAC?
@@andrewgroshong4617 mine no longer works, however my 4x4 ecu is still unplugged and I have a couple other sensor issues I need to fix that could affect this
How much did your 4-runner cost to build? and what price should i be looking at to make a overlanding build?
@@Ljt-31 honestly I have no idea of the exact numbers, I’ve done quite a bit so a new build video and price breakdown video are definitely in order. I think I’ve added around 11k worth of stuff, but I’d really have to go back and do the math. I have quite a few expensive parts like a
regear ($3,200)
Roof top tent ($3,200ish)
Rear bumper ($2k)
and the list goes on.
I’m going to do a build video and then right after that do a cost breakdown video as well
@Ok, thank you!
Post some wheeling vids brotha
Wanna see this rig in action
@@Somynigga yeah I added some towards the end but I’m thinking about compiling all my wheeling and camping footage and making a video out of it👀
I have the same thing in mine but with a switch wired up to actuate the ADD. If I actuate it and just constantly leave it engaged, will it have the same effect as what you did? Any downsides to this? Great video
@@Bbchamp1 okay gotcha, if you leave it engaged then essentially it should have the same effect as if you did it the same way I did. As far as any downsides there shouldn’t be any, but if I’m wrong then someone correct me here in the comments lol
Awesome thanks for the reply!
Will this affect the rear e locker on the v8s?
@@Bubbamsr2011 that’s a good question, honestly I’m not educated enough in this area so I really can’t say, but I’m sure someone here in the comments knows. I’d post this question in the Facebook group🤙🏾
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@@looseaxles 🙏🏾🙏🏾🤙🏾