I am SAS&SBS Full General Alison Sarah James MC (49 MCs, rating 001 de facto all my life, serving on every special operation) having passed all tests at same standard as the men.
Actually , in the police in america, middle aged woman want the fitness tests to be made easier for them. They claim that being held to the same standards is sexist
Bear in mind it's a job 99.99% of male service personnel can't do either. I'd bet that if you ran the numbers there's probably only 500 people in the entire British Military at any one time (including serving SF) who are physically and mentally capable to be SAS/SBS.
I think that what he was trying to say between the lines is that SF requires more than physical fitness or mental stamina. That's what makes the difference between SAS SF and other SF categories. You have to understand that the Brit SAS is an entirely different animal in the military landscape and has been unable to be replicated anywhere else in the world. And the British Army knows this.
@@77Stringerwe had a female op in one of the JCUNI dets, but the course for this is very different to selection. However, any SAS entrants still had to do the whole ops course to be accepted.
My dad Terry Jickells ran SAS selection with other colleagues of course and he would say this: I'm a sports fan and watch athletics and at no time is there a mixed 100-meter or 1,500-meter race. The reason is simple, men and women are built differently. It's exactly what Bruce is saying.
And you now have failed male athletes identifying as women ,and the woman are complaining quiet rightly that it is not fair as the man is stronger etc Take the recent boxing,,They cant have it both ways
there are mixed 4 x 100, 4x 400 races .. given that 99% of missions are not DA 24/7/365 TV highlights RAMBO.. but many are in denied areas, support intel collection, action etc.. just sending US/UK/Western white guys into the most difficult denied areas doesn't work.
G.I. Jane Viggo's quote is as valid as it ever was. When I was in the army, we had a saying 'if you can't pull me out of a burning BMP, I don't want you in my platoon'.
When i became an engineer we had three women in the unit, two clerks and a cook. About a year later there was an influx of young girls who didn’t like the idea that they were privates and we were sappers, so they pestered the powers until they were allowed to go on the FEs course and gain the rank of “sapper” and the extra 20c pay. So the they get their qualification and the pay and then go back to their pots, pans and computers. Only one girl out of the dozen or so actually got out in the field and got her hands dirty. The army spent thousands training these women and got nothing in return, complete waste of time and money.
They haven't no manners nor gratitude too, For the more that we help 'em, the less will they do, But mock at the rank and pay of a sapper - "Sapper" Rudyard Kipling
A sapper ain’t higher than a private. Private is a rank and give it the respect it deserves. Private’s all over the world have done it just as well as any other ranks. Don’t label it like this. Check any countries military awards and honors and you will see a lot of private’s..
Standards set and maintained as they should be: one standard for all, no discrimination involved. Much respect for the protection of your SAS standards as we can already see the degeneration in the overall quality and abilities within our Canadian Armed Forces when you allow Wokeness rules to pollute these standards.
@@ZATennisFanThat’s the problem. The weak minds of many a politician and law maker in the western world have allowed liberal/marxist agendas to override common sense and erode what have previously been solid, hard and fast standards developed over many lifetimes. This will be written about and commented on in the years to come. Hopefully not to be repeated.
An ex navy chef I used to work with said that some of the stokers would struggle with the fitness tests as they were big heavy guys and they couldn't do the bleep tests that women could manage. Rightly so, he said if you have to carry a casualty up multiple decks or run charged hoses then you want the big guy. You aren't running anywhere on a ship for any length of time.
Glad you mentioned the M1. Being British, I didn’t get to use it properly, but certainly good fun. I come from the old SLR days with the same 7.62 as the G3, but it was about 10 feet long 😁. My favourite, GPMG
I cant remember who said it but it was a US SF instructor, "we would love woman in the service, BUT!, It turns out that when you throw 120 punds of gear on them, and ask them to go do 25 mile marches in mountains, they just crumble".
ALOT of people today are too weak to face that reality. I dated a female marine and she was tough as nails and could throw punches like a dude, but she had a messed up back after 4 years in the corps from matching miles with full 75lb pack.
@@scottcoley1906 Brecon beacons is differnt level, if its wet it will be boggy and muddy at parts, so your feet will sink into the mud making it even harder.
The women in the SRR are there to blend in for surveillance reasons. They would not pass the basic Commando Course if tested on an equal setting as the men, but they often are allegedly very good in the covert roles I've heard.
My late buddy, known to Lyndsay, met his wife-to-be on ops (NI) in the 90's. Women have been doing these elite roles forever (plenty of WW2 female heroes working behind enemy lines). Our other late buddy had women on his selection course for the SRR, which is heavily based on the regt selection. So women are nearly at the peak of SF roles already, it's just that their physiology isn't robust enough for the weight and rate of covering ground required on that top step. I've seen super fit female soldiers who can box, shoot, run like the best of us, but it's that last bit that makes the regt men only for now. Many thanks for the video ☘️
There were a few females who served alongside these guys in Northern Ireland working with "The Det". Although not as physically demanding as SF selection it was still physically and mentally arduous. There is a great book called One Up by "Sarah Ford", not her real name.
The det don’t work with the SAS, they work for the det when asked. The last thing the det want are SAS troopers kicking about. They are not often suited for the role
@@andrewscott8950 There are more SAS troopers in the Det than any other unit. A significant number do a two year attachment. Also, there is a process called Sugar where SAS/SBS do a shortened SRR course so they can do do their owm, and the nost hazardous jobs without need for SRR who are currently suffering an identity crisis
@ they can be spotted a mile off, as for ex regiment guys, making the up most of it bullshit. Sure plenty in SRR but they wouldn’t make selection when it was 14 int for NI. SpR Det are totally different. Many ops in NI, you wouldn’t want regiment folks there, they fucked a lot up. CTRs digging in sure, but not the work of the det.
British SF's have ability and aptitude selection criteria developed over decades of operational deployment's world wide. If the selection staff have any doubt in an applicants condition in meeting these criteria they will not waste any time in consideration. This is the plain truth and has made our armed forces tough and resilient. Who would want to challenge this, what benefits would be seen by reducing the criteria and has anyone even considered how this would effect the operational readiness of units, the recommendations from past and currant operators and the cost financially.
Remember back around 2003ish at a certain place where the Regiment had a reserve squadron seeing a female up a ladder on a building with a few men doing a bit of training. Honestly don't know if she was a medic or up there to clean the widows but she was carrying a weapon on her back. Puzzled me for years if they had tried females in UKSF(R) to see if it would work. Then again was in a briefing once where there was a young Asian guy stood to one side who looked like he was barely 8 stone and about 5ft 4", after the intro he started taking the briefing and was fully badged.
@@Morthatron No wasn't a Gurkha. Have served alongside few Gurkhas and they are some of the most polite and quiet people you'll ever meet, but are highly professional and extremely proud people. We should be glad they serve in our Army and we should always look after the ones who have served. Funny story about the Gurkha Engineers. They have their own training troop to do the Combat Engineer training (may have changed these days??) When I did my Combat Engineer training remember seeing the Gurkha troop coming back from a PT session and basically carrying the PTI who was blowing out his backside.
I used to work with an ex RN chef and they set the fitness tests so that women can pass it. He said you might get a 6'4" stocker who struggled with the running aspect but if someone has to carry you, on their shoulder up a few ladders or haul charged hoses then you're going to want the big guy. No-one is running anywhere.
@@OZMAN1964 If you truly believe that than you were in a really POG unit that had zero physical requirements to do the job. And if you try and tel me you were in a combat arms MOS, I call bullshit.
I'm assuming you have never been anywhere near Academy football. Those matches are not some battle of the sexes which is often portrayed and used by people online to take the piss out of women players when they lose. They are normally arranged by the women's teams behind closed doors as training exercises. A female team may want to play a lads team because they want to push themselves against a bigger side physically for training reasons. Teenage Academy boys from 14's/15's etc give them that challenge as plenty of them are bigger but not all and they are of standard to beat them. They go into the game knowing they will lose but it's the competition and data they are after at elite female level. It's the same with female boxers, they will often spa with men. No female boxer/football team expects to beat the men, it's all for training. It's rather pathetic men taking the P1ss out of elite women athletes because they can't beat men from behind their keyboard. No female athlete ever said they could.
Women can play a role in Special Forces, but it isn't the same as top-tier male Special Forces. I know some who tested for Special Forces in Norway, and here we have our own unit for that kind of cooperation "Jegertroppen". It doesn't mean they are the same, nor do any of us think that.
I remember when my older sister complained about doing house work and my dad gave her the option of doing house work or going outside and doing wood. She chose house work.
Though different but also similar, there were some very brave women that deployed behind enemy lines with the SOE during the second world war. Probably not as physically able as men but very effective none the less.
There are women in the Aust SAS , but they are linguists and electronic warfare personnel. There are rolls for them because its not all hand to hand combat and pack marching.
Stand by that H&K G3 Zombie apocalypse choice. I used it for decades (in the Army) and it never failed me. Sure, it is heavy, but it is fairly accurate, hits like a cannon, and can operate under most conditions, provided you take care of it too. Something getting hit by that weapon will show it.
But the training is now the same across tier 1 uksf. So it’s not like a woman could pass SRR instead of SAS. It’s the same. Specialisation or continuity training is where the UKSF differ.
Wrong, SAS/SBS selection isn’t the same as SRR selection. A woman who passes SRR selection would not pass SAS/SBS selection, it’s entirely different. SRR isn’t anywhere near as demanding or arduous as SAS/SBS so the selection requirements reflect that. SRR is all about information retention and how quickly you can adapt and move on to the next thing, learning multiple languages, how to talk to people while blending in, how to stay unseen etc… women aren’t capable of joining the Royal Marines Commandos or the Paras never mind the SAS/SBS…
@@tgns8977I agree 100% , but apparently there has been 2 women to pass RMC lympstone commando test for a green beret, wether they were given the same exact standards we shall never know??? It will be top secret to avoid huge uplash , actual commando women many men cannot pass the test, won’t be long before P company parachute regiment has woman in some capacity either?
NZSAS has been open to woman since around 1999 but none have made it. NZSAS do have a female team attached to the regiment that can go with the NZSAS on a mission if they're going to be dealing with females from the local population. I'm not sure what they call the team but they're not badged members of NZSAS
@DJThompson-x4e when did a woman complete the 10 day selection process and 9 months training cycle to be a badged member of the regiment? I read an article about 12-18 months ago and it said no woman had passed selection..
Women served in The Det with distinction. Some women are actually better than men in many roles, and vice versa. A clever army uses that to its advantage,
Ill give an example of difference. The professional Brazilian Woman Soccer team played against a 15youth Australian mens team and lost. They are the best in what they do, but when it comes to fiscal things, is just not the same, its how we humans are build! And special forces, if I for example go down, girl you gotta have the strength to carry me with all my gear out of that. Standards should be the same when the risk is human life, don't go easy on life
@@frankiebegbie I searched in English and i cant find anything about it. Only stuff in Portuguese i can find. Also I dont think there is a video of the game, since it was a friendly match
@@frankiebegbieit wasn't Brazilian, it was the under 15s Newcastle Jets (a local team of 14 year old boys), Google Matildas vs under 15 Newcastle Jets
Women don't make it to SAS. CAG allows a few women to provide operational support in covert missions, but they don't go through the OTC, so they are not trained as assaulters. Is that clear now, mate?
It's not a matter of fitness (i.e getting the heart and lungs to accept overload), it's the sheer grind of carrying heavier and heavier loads over open ground in as quick a time as possible and, sorry, most women can't physically do that.
In the UK, there are a few women who work 'alongside' special forces. They work in the area of espionage - MI6/James Bond without the bollocks - and are capable of infiltrating without being as 'visible' or as much of a 'perceived threat' as men. Small teams of men and women are far less likely to attract attention, likewise. They are trained to the same standards, except for the physical capabilities required of Special Forces personnel, which 99.9% of men are incapable of matching.
I'm ex-SAS, and no woman could do what we had to do, to watch a woman trying the same jungle training course that l was on in Sungei Siput near lpoh in Malaya would be hilarious! We men found it very tough and looked a sorry sight. One man said to me,"lf my mother could see me now, she'd cry." Creepy crawlies, some of them dangerous, abounded.
Unfortunately the lowering of standards is a disaster waiting to happen in many western militaries (not to mention police/law enforcement). How are all these short tiny women and sometimes men able to do everything that they need to be able to do?
That’s the problem here in America, the standard is just that THE STANDARD. And if you can’t pass at the same standards as the men then you’re not cut out for it. That goes for Rangers, Special Forces, The Unit etc.
It may sound brutal in this day and age, but I’m sure every service member (current or veteran) has a story to tell about serving with females on Ops. In my experience, they absolutely have their place with surveillance, HUMINT and interrogation duties, but during physically demanding training they will find it difficult, especially over a protracted training period. If i recall, there have only been 3 or 4 females to have ever passed ‘P Company’ (pre-parachute selection). P Company culminates in several arduous tests over 5 days, rather than continuous assessment over several months during UKSF Selection. I don’t believe any female has ever passed Royal Marines Commando training. Both P Company and Royal Marines courses are known to be extremely arduous and notorious courses in the British Military, but not a patch on UKSF Selection, which often finishes with less than 10 successful candidates from an initial course of 200+.
There's been quite a few to pass both all arms versions of the respective courses (which is impressive) but none have been through the full depot training.
@@OMT988 It just proves the point that for almost all female soldiers SF is out of their reach.. one Officer in 20 odd years of open selection? Good fo rher, I bet she is fit as fuck, but she is not going to be doing grunt work.. The only fear is having different standards for initial selection for any course...
What is interesting is that women tend to dominate roles where analytics are widely used. Women predominantly were recruited at Bletchley Park as code breakers plus in the SOE. There are specialist roles for different people in society. You probably will find young computer kids working for MI5 or MI6.
He says it's obvious that the standards wouldn't be lowered but unfortunately it's not obvious: standards for the rest of the army have been slashed so women can pass them. I served as an SAS reservist and I was pretty fit but I wasn't an exceptional athlete. My sister, on the other hand, was an exceptional athlete who ran cross country for the county, played football and rugby and rowed for Cambridge University and was a decent climber and mountaineer. She was about as tough as it gets for a woman but when she put on my full SAS bergen she wilted and said there was no way on Earth she could carry that. We're just different.
Who’s arguing for women to be given preferential treatment in selection? If the MOD or Pentagon aren’t demanding that women be given a leg up or be allowed to work to a different standard in Tier 1 units, then why are we even debating whether women can pass selection?
There probably is physical restrictions for women concerning SAS selection.I see benefits for establishing a seperate women’s selection course I am sure there is a place for highly trained specialist females and a female branch of the regiment why not.
One woman, a Surgeon Lieutenant failed the All Arms by 10 seconds, the instructors said fitness wise she was really good, but the time was the time, don’t know if she attempted it again
Only one. A female captain, she was also an Ironman type athlete. As far as I’m aware not one female has passed the Royal Marine selection. YET! Paras and Marines don’t want them though and it’s common sense.
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The key words Lindsay has used are 'passes legitimately', and he is absolutely right, I've had any amount of people having a go at me when I have written that a woman 'passing' Para selection here in the UK was unlikely to be a legitimate pass. This is reality.
The main thing being they're not paras. One was/is a Rupert so she'd have spent most her time learning how to be twat and the other was/is a medic if I remember. Not all Parachute Regiment are Paras. Need to do depot and be in an infantry battalion to be a Para. Can't just rock up do a little pre parachute regiment selection course and p coy for 5 days and think you're a para just because you've got a maroon lid
I think the SAS have got it right. Women eligible but have to meet same standard, which is almost impossible physically. None have passed as yet. But who knows: one day?
@@neiljobe3065My comment was in response to his statement that he made around 4 minutes, “women are banned from being SEALs”. That is false. It wasn’t meant as a comparison.
guys, people who now.. i live in merthyr tydfil, 5 miles from the storey arms n pen y fan, ive seen sas on selection up there, many many times in my 52 years. on winter and summer selection, sas reqruits have died up there on selection, fit, tough, rock hard men. and ive not seen one woman, do that yomp, in full gear, with a weapon, ammo, supplies, extra ammo gmpg, gren@des , mortars or law`s and make it up over the first rise!
Women are great at certain roles . Look at the SOE WW2. Incredible tough and taking on tasks like covert radio ops that were vitually suicide missions, with nothing but torture and death at the end.
I am so glad he said that most people would say that women should not be in the SAS, because I thought he was going to give the woke answer. I for one believe that women shouldn't even be in an infantry regiment, unless that regiment is made up entirely of women. I'm all for women being in the military to fullfil certain roles, but there's a good reason why historically, men have done the fighting. Also, I remember being in Northern Ireland in South Armagh and an RUC cop was shot with a Barret 50 cal, it was so loud that the multiple commander initially sent the contact report as an IED. 🤣🤣
To be the best, you can take only the best. Pigs will fly before any woman would meet the standards required. There is one standard, and there are such differences that makes it impossible for women. That is reality, and reality bites
Anyone who has ever worked any sort of practical job will quickly tell you how lifting heavy things/ hard work was deemed a "man's job". I know I have had many such experiences in my life. All about equality until there is a moving box.
Didnt the US marines already run this experiment? Training women for front line combat units they found they couldnt carry as much, couldnt go as far or as fast, their bodies atrophied faster in teh field and every unit they were attached to had lower combat effectiveness. What are we most interested in - maintaining capabilities or not hurting some feelings.
Not one single female has passed Royal Marines Commando training. In 22yrs 5 females have passed the All Arms Commando Course (the 5th passed last week). Passing All Arms Commando is not the same as passing RM Commando training. To date 4 females have passed All Arms P Company and 1 of those is a fully badged member of the Parachute Regiment whilst the other 3 are from associated Corps.
Here's a perspective that I've never seen mentioned. Let's assume that a woman was able to make it through SAS/SBS/Seals etc selection. My question would be how effective could she actually be because she would be outed by the press incredibly quickly just because of the size of the story it would be. The PR machine would find that incredibly hard to resist. Also very few people would believe she made it without the standards being changed...
I like how the european country (can't recall if it was Norway or Finland) did it. Instead of training to be special ops. they are trained by the special forces operators themselves to be elite support for the special operations for specific type of missions that required female soldiers. Basically, the women might be as capable as the main spec ops, but they are combat capable as any elite infantry or airborne bridages out there.
Jobs where physical activity is an important attribute (Solider, fireman, oil rig worker etc) should have a single standard. Putting other people in physical danger just for the sake of diversity is wrong IMO.
Regarding women in any area of mlitary service. The key word is equal. So if they meet the required standards, then they are good to go. Applying DEI politics only ruins the meaning of any standards. It only means that boxes on forms are ticked and not that the work gets done. I wonder how Tulsi Gebhard would do? She certainly has the aptitude. I do respect this lady who has quite a career in the US military. Regarding the G3 rifle. It is a great weapon but a bit of a pig to strip and reassemble. The roller block system can be awkward. The telescoping butt version is easy to carry even though it weighs about the same as the FAL L1A1.Which is much easier to strip and clean in the field.
Just looks like a standard apple watch with a karky strap. All saints t shirt. Who spends 100 quid on a plane black t shirt. Feature wall in the background, that will be a nightmare to cover on the next fashion cycle. Sas or no his wife best be responsible for his clothes and interior design!
"Are the standards the same?" "Of course they are. That's why there are no women in the SAS" THIS Just keep the standards the same. The rest will take care of itself.
I’m guna say something now I want it to be took in this context when a special forces soldier is captured they are tortured badly and beaten and expected to give their lives for the mission. Now imagine a massive headline story that a woman special forces soldier has been captured and raped and tortured for days then killed their would be uproar of why was she their doing that very dangerous job even if she chose that career path. Think on that 1
I knew a woman who could carry twice the load of any man at a builders she delivered too. including putting one man to shame when he's legs went to jelly claiming up a ladder with a bag of cement under his arm for a challenge against her. she did it with ease with one bag of cements under each arm, she was half his size but had twice the motivation.
I don’t think that there are big, strong men from the Paras that can’t get through it. I think there are big, strong men from the Paras, that have the MENTAL strength to get through selection. I’m sure there’s been a good number of overweight smokers that HAVe got through, because they FUCKING WANT TO.
I have a lot of stories from military buddies about supposedly the first two women on selection dropping out and crying within a few hours, standards dropping for women at Lympstone just as we're told they're being raised for all to put the capital C back in Royal Marine Commando, women officers who couldn't get anyone to listen to them in simulated combat at Sandhurst with a survival rate of 0 getting commendations and transferred to an infantry regiment then fast tracked through the ranks... but you never really know what's true unless you see it yourself.
I'm not sure what exactly my one mate does now, but he used to be a PTI in Lympstone. For the first time in his life he's thinking about leaving the Marines altogether because it's just not the force he knows.
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I am SAS&SBS Full General Alison Sarah James MC (49 MCs, rating 001 de facto all my life, serving on every special operation) having passed all tests at same standard as the men.
The standards are the standards, lower them for NOBODY.
AGREED. Weak links gets people captured or killed.
Yep, and the standard comes from war-time operations. The enemy and the operation do not care what gender you are. It is what it is.
Actually , in the police in america, middle aged woman want the fitness tests to be made easier for them. They claim that being held to the same standards is sexist
The only question is are the standards appropriate? Many ´jobs´ have pointless requirements, are these?
I believe they are real, but I am a flyboy....
Yes, they are appropriate. Obviously.
Bear in mind it's a job 99.99% of male service personnel can't do either. I'd bet that if you ran the numbers there's probably only 500 people in the entire British Military at any one time (including serving SF) who are physically and mentally capable to be SAS/SBS.
And SRR
I think that what he was trying to say between the lines is that SF requires more than physical fitness or mental stamina. That's what makes the difference between SAS SF and other SF categories. You have to understand that the Brit SAS is an entirely different animal in the military landscape and has been unable to be replicated anywhere else in the world. And the British Army knows this.
@@MikeH401I think there are woman SRR officers
@@77Stringerwe had a female op in one of the JCUNI dets, but the course for this is very different to selection. However, any SAS entrants still had to do the whole ops course to be accepted.
@@MikeH401 no SRR doesnt compare with SBS SAS
My dad Terry Jickells ran SAS selection with other colleagues of course and he would say this: I'm a sports fan and watch athletics and at no time is there a mixed 100-meter or 1,500-meter race. The reason is simple, men and women are built differently. It's exactly what Bruce is saying.
And you now have failed male athletes identifying as women ,and the woman are complaining quiet rightly that it is not fair as the man is stronger etc Take the recent boxing,,They cant have it both ways
@@norb0254 Yeah, a good point - can't think of everything mate.
there are mixed 4 x 100, 4x 400 races .. given that 99% of missions are not DA 24/7/365 TV highlights RAMBO.. but many are in denied areas, support intel collection, action etc.. just sending US/UK/Western white guys into the most difficult denied areas doesn't work.
@@aaronrey2658 That's a mixed race mate -not the same thing at all - 2 males and 2 women. As for the latter, I haven't clue what you're on about.
There’s half women cops and half fire volunteers women my state. Society suffers.
G.I. Jane Viggo's quote is as valid as it ever was. When I was in the army, we had a saying 'if you can't pull me out of a burning BMP, I don't want you in my platoon'.
When i became an engineer we had three women in the unit, two clerks and a cook. About a year later there was an influx of young girls who didn’t like the idea that they were privates and we were sappers, so they pestered the powers until they were allowed to go on the FEs course and gain the rank of “sapper” and the extra 20c pay.
So the they get their qualification and the pay and then go back to their pots, pans and computers. Only one girl out of the dozen or so actually got out in the field and got her hands dirty. The army spent thousands training these women and got nothing in return, complete waste of time and money.
They haven't no manners nor gratitude too,
For the more that we help 'em, the less will they do,
But mock at the rank and pay of a sapper
- "Sapper" Rudyard Kipling
A sapper ain’t higher than a private. Private is a rank and give it the respect it deserves.
Private’s all over the world have done it just as well as any other ranks. Don’t label it like this.
Check any countries military awards and honors and you will see a lot of private’s..
@ i never said it was, i just said the girls had a problem with it.
@@python27au I know, never said you did.
My comment still stands for those that don’t know the difference.
Standard woman behaviour
Standards set and maintained as they should be: one standard for all, no discrimination involved. Much respect for the protection of your SAS standards as we can already see the degeneration in the overall quality and abilities within our Canadian Armed Forces when you allow Wokeness rules to pollute these standards.
Your "wokeness" comment distracted away from your substance. You all need to stop use the term "woke" because you ALL do not know what it means.
Just look at how it's working for the NZ Navy.
Equality of opportunity not equalitu of outcome. They are two very different things.
@@ZATennisFanThat’s the problem. The weak minds of many a politician and law maker in the western world have allowed liberal/marxist agendas to override common sense and erode what have previously been solid, hard and fast standards developed over many lifetimes. This will be written about and commented on in the years to come. Hopefully not to be repeated.
@@davidh6300 exactly ...its a F**king disgrace...
An ex navy chef I used to work with said that some of the stokers would struggle with the fitness tests as they were big heavy guys and they couldn't do the bleep tests that women could manage.
Rightly so, he said if you have to carry a casualty up multiple decks or run charged hoses then you want the big guy. You aren't running anywhere on a ship for any length of time.
The G3 was also used in Rhodesia. The main weapon, however, was the FN FAL. Same 7.62 bullet. My first wife for four years. ❤
Glad you mentioned the M1. Being British, I didn’t get to use it properly, but certainly good fun. I come from the old SLR days with the same 7.62 as the G3, but it was about 10 feet long 😁. My favourite, GPMG
I get to use the M6 everyday often on the M62 and sometimes on the M5
Can't be elite with two different standards. Simple as that.
I cant remember who said it but it was a US SF instructor, "we would love woman in the service, BUT!, It turns out that when you throw 120 punds of gear on them, and ask them to go do 25 mile marches in mountains, they just crumble".
ALOT of people today are too weak to face that reality. I dated a female marine and she was tough as nails and could throw punches like a dude, but she had a messed up back after 4 years in the corps from matching miles with full 75lb pack.
…like fkn croutons!
Many men also react the same!
@@garagenigel Yes, the drop off, of male cadets is like 99%, but the 1% do make it.
@@scottcoley1906 Brecon beacons is differnt level, if its wet it will be boggy and muddy at parts, so your feet will sink into the mud making it even harder.
The women in the SRR are there to blend in for surveillance reasons. They would not pass the basic Commando Course if tested on an equal setting as the men, but they often are allegedly very good in the covert roles I've heard.
There are females in british comandos who passed the same course as men.
@@gregorywigley6884 No, not on equal settings and also none have yet passed te Royal Marines training so don't get making crap up.
@@gregorywigley6884AACC is NOT the same as passing out as a royal
@gregorywigley6884 All arms is different from royal marines training.
Simp 🤓@@gregorywigley6884
None in SAS but a good few went into 14 Int/The Det....that became SRR
The Det was Northern Island specific in my day. Needed them for undercover to act as partners etc
Have a read of James rennie book called the operators, women were totally on the pointy end, a few involved in firefights
@@studavies1967 brilliant book 👍👍
@@studavies1967 I just randomly saw this comment. I am guessing that you were born in 1967 and your name is Stuart Davies?
Correct.....
My late buddy, known to Lyndsay, met his wife-to-be on ops (NI) in the 90's. Women have been doing these elite roles forever (plenty of WW2 female heroes working behind enemy lines).
Our other late buddy had women on his selection course for the SRR, which is heavily based on the regt selection.
So women are nearly at the peak of SF roles already, it's just that their physiology isn't robust enough for the weight and rate of covering ground required on that top step.
I've seen super fit female soldiers who can box, shoot, run like the best of us, but it's that last bit that makes the regt men only for now.
Many thanks for the video ☘️
The standard is the standard - an individual passes or fails.
There were a few females who served alongside these guys in Northern Ireland working with "The Det". Although not as physically demanding as SF selection it was still physically and mentally arduous. There is a great book called One Up by "Sarah Ford", not her real name.
I’ve read the book, very good read.
The det don’t work with the SAS, they work for the det when asked. The last thing the det want are SAS troopers kicking about. They are not often suited for the role
@@andrewscott8950 There are more SAS troopers in the Det than any other unit. A significant number do a two year attachment. Also, there is a process called Sugar where SAS/SBS do a shortened SRR course so they can do do their owm, and the nost hazardous jobs without need for SRR who are currently suffering an identity crisis
@ they can be spotted a mile off, as for ex regiment guys, making the up most of it bullshit. Sure plenty in SRR but they wouldn’t make selection when it was 14 int for NI. SpR Det are totally different. Many ops in NI, you wouldn’t want regiment folks there, they fucked a lot up. CTRs digging in sure, but not the work of the det.
From memory, I believe she is mentioned in Michael Rennie's book......
Bricklaying has also been open to woman as well but try to find one that actually does that job.
Im a British carpenter and I've seen women in every trade since around 2000 onwards no joke
@divins774 well there you go proof they should be put on front line combat duty.
I’ve not seen any trade that is solely men EXCEPT I’ve never seen a female scaffolder
@@Oldguy1900 oh there's some fit ones aswell nowadays years ago they were all raving manly lezzas nowadays there's some surprisingly hot ones
@josephfoulger9628 and how many men vs the 1 woman doing those jobs? 100 to 1, 1000 to 1 ?
Absolute grip strength, nuff said
British SF's have ability and aptitude selection criteria developed over decades of operational deployment's world wide. If the selection staff have any doubt in an applicants condition in meeting these criteria they will not waste any time in consideration. This is the plain truth and has made our armed forces tough and resilient. Who would want to challenge this, what benefits would be seen by reducing the criteria and has anyone even considered how this would effect the operational readiness of units, the recommendations from past and currant operators and the cost financially.
Another great episode
Remember back around 2003ish at a certain place where the Regiment had a reserve squadron seeing a female up a ladder on a building with a few men doing a bit of training. Honestly don't know if she was a medic or up there to clean the widows but she was carrying a weapon on her back. Puzzled me for years if they had tried females in UKSF(R) to see if it would work. Then again was in a briefing once where there was a young Asian guy stood to one side who looked like he was barely 8 stone and about 5ft 4", after the intro he started taking the briefing and was fully badged.
That little Asian dude was probably a Nepalese Gurkha
@@Morthatron No wasn't a Gurkha. Have served alongside few Gurkhas and they are some of the most polite and quiet people you'll ever meet, but are highly professional and extremely proud people. We should be glad they serve in our Army and we should always look after the ones who have served.
Funny story about the Gurkha Engineers. They have their own training troop to do the Combat Engineer training (may have changed these days??) When I did my Combat Engineer training remember seeing the Gurkha troop coming back from a PT session and basically carrying the PTI who was blowing out his backside.
I used to work with an ex RN chef and they set the fitness tests so that women can pass it. He said you might get a 6'4" stocker who struggled with the running aspect but if someone has to carry you, on their shoulder up a few ladders or haul charged hoses then you're going to want the big guy. No-one is running anywhere.
Its really simple, its not about sexism or discrimination. Let people do the jobs they can do and that's exactly whats going on here.
Women are not built to be warriors. I have first hand experience with this as an infantryman deployed to iraq in 2007. We are not the same.
> imagine one trying to drag you and your patrol order to safety....no thanks.
but hey...human shields seem all the rage these days
WINNING !
nOOooo
Not from what I saw, as good as any man.
@@OZMAN1964 The point is...to be in SASR you have to be better...than ANY MAN > not " equal " to one..
@@OZMAN1964 If you truly believe that than you were in a really POG unit that had zero physical requirements to do the job. And if you try and tel me you were in a combat arms MOS, I call bullshit.
@@OZMAN1964You're deluded. Female medics couldnt carry their own kit
I was at an English cruise port and unusually there were two armed officers, the female officer was literally half the size of the male officer.
But as the phrase goes "Nobody outruns Mr Heckler and Mr Koch".
@MrBertybob Unless they're jumped, as in the Manchester airport incident.
Smaller target
@@andrewturner6642 very true
So womens national teams lose to 14 year old boys in soccer. So its not 3 divisions down its like 10.
I'm assuming you have never been anywhere near Academy football. Those matches are not some battle of the sexes which is often portrayed and used by people online to take the piss out of women players when they lose. They are normally arranged by the women's teams behind closed doors as training exercises. A female team may want to play a lads team because they want to push themselves against a bigger side physically for training reasons. Teenage Academy boys from 14's/15's etc give them that challenge as plenty of them are bigger but not all and they are of standard to beat them. They go into the game knowing they will lose but it's the competition and data they are after at elite female level. It's the same with female boxers, they will often spa with men. No female boxer/football team expects to beat the men, it's all for training. It's rather pathetic men taking the P1ss out of elite women athletes because they can't beat men from behind their keyboard. No female athlete ever said they could.
Before debating this as a men vs. women issue, remember that most men can't pass the selection tests for these jobs.
So what chance do women have. Remember as soon as a trans man destroys women they cry.😅
most men and all women
Women can play a role in Special Forces, but it isn't the same as top-tier male Special Forces. I know some who tested for Special Forces in Norway, and here we have our own unit for that kind of cooperation "Jegertroppen". It doesn't mean they are the same, nor do any of us think that.
I remember when my older sister complained about doing house work and my dad gave her the option of doing house work or going outside and doing wood. She chose house work.
Though different but also similar, there were some very brave women that deployed behind enemy lines with the SOE during the second world war. Probably not as physically able as men but very effective none the less.
There are women in the Aust SAS , but they are linguists and electronic warfare personnel. There are rolls for them because its not all hand to hand combat and pack marching.
I'm sure the rolls are tasty, but let's talk more about the roles.
aussie SF sounds easy. Eat rolls and sit on a laptop, i could do that
Stand by that H&K G3 Zombie apocalypse choice. I used it for decades (in the Army) and it never failed me. Sure, it is heavy, but it is fairly accurate, hits like a cannon, and can operate under most conditions, provided you take care of it too. Something getting hit by that weapon will show it.
Considering that the SAS and SRR share the same base, the Regiment can borrow an SRR lady as and when needed.
Exactly.
But the training is now the same across tier 1 uksf. So it’s not like a woman could pass SRR instead of SAS. It’s the same. Specialisation or continuity training is where the UKSF differ.
@@RalphBrooker-gn9ivSRR selection is different to JSF selection.
Wrong, SAS/SBS selection isn’t the same as SRR selection. A woman who passes SRR selection would not pass SAS/SBS selection, it’s entirely different. SRR isn’t anywhere near as demanding or arduous as SAS/SBS so the selection requirements reflect that. SRR is all about information retention and how quickly you can adapt and move on to the next thing, learning multiple languages, how to talk to people while blending in, how to stay unseen etc… women aren’t capable of joining the Royal Marines Commandos or the Paras never mind the SAS/SBS…
@@tgns8977I agree 100% , but apparently there has been 2 women to pass RMC lympstone commando test for a green beret, wether they were given the same exact standards we shall never know??? It will be top secret to avoid huge uplash , actual commando women many men cannot pass the test, won’t be long before P company parachute regiment has woman in some capacity either?
NZSAS has been open to woman since around 1999 but none have made it.
NZSAS do have a female team attached to the regiment that can go with the NZSAS on a mission if they're going to be dealing with females from the local population.
I'm not sure what they call the team but they're not badged members of NZSAS
Most of NZ sas are woman
correction there are women NZSAS, cause i met one of them, women that don't complete selection are offered ajob as support staff
@DJThompson-x4e when did a woman complete the 10 day selection process and 9 months training cycle to be a badged member of the regiment?
I read an article about 12-18 months ago and it said no woman had passed selection..
@DJThompson-x4e support staff aren't badged members of the regiment.
We used to call them FET’s (Female Engagement Teams).
Women served in The Det with distinction. Some women are actually better than men in many roles, and vice versa. A clever army uses that to its advantage,
Just not SF.
Ill give an example of difference. The professional Brazilian Woman Soccer team played against a 15youth Australian mens team and lost. They are the best in what they do, but when it comes to fiscal things, is just not the same, its how we humans are build!
And special forces, if I for example go down, girl you gotta have the strength to carry me with all my gear out of that. Standards should be the same when the risk is human life, don't go easy on life
sHHHHH " dont mention the war .."
Citation please - I’d genuinely want to read about, or preferably watch, that game.
@@frankiebegbie I searched in English and i cant find anything about it. Only stuff in Portuguese i can find. Also I dont think there is a video of the game, since it was a friendly match
@@frankiebegbie just search it...its easy enough to find
@@frankiebegbieit wasn't Brazilian, it was the under 15s Newcastle Jets (a local team of 14 year old boys), Google Matildas vs under 15 Newcastle Jets
Loved the G3, the HK sights were awesome, SLR was great, but I hated the leaf sights...
Women don't make it to SAS. CAG allows a few women to provide operational support in covert missions, but they don't go through the OTC, so they are not trained as assaulters. Is that clear now, mate?
Bare in mind that people can and still do lose their lives trying out for SAS etc more so in winter but it does happen it's hard core
I would agree about the G3, the Swedish version used to be my service rifle.
It's not a matter of fitness (i.e getting the heart and lungs to accept overload), it's the sheer grind of carrying heavier and heavier loads over open ground in as quick a time as possible and, sorry, most women can't physically do that.
In the UK, there are a few women who work 'alongside' special forces. They work in the area of espionage - MI6/James Bond without the bollocks - and are capable of infiltrating without being as 'visible' or as much of a 'perceived threat' as men.
Small teams of men and women are far less likely to attract attention, likewise.
They are trained to the same standards, except for the physical capabilities required of Special Forces personnel, which 99.9% of men are incapable of matching.
I'm ex-SAS, and no woman could do what we had to do, to watch a woman trying the same jungle training course that l was on in Sungei Siput near lpoh in Malaya would be hilarious! We men found it very tough and looked a sorry sight. One man said to me,"lf my mother could see me now, she'd cry." Creepy crawlies, some of them dangerous, abounded.
FYI GETTIN THE TEA ON IS A VERY IMPORTANT JOB IN THE MOB
Unfortunately the lowering of standards is a disaster waiting to happen in many western militaries (not to mention police/law enforcement). How are all these short tiny women and sometimes men able to do everything that they need to be able to do?
The simple fact is there's no viable reason for a woman to be in the SAS. There are enough men to fill the squadrons
That’s the problem here in America, the standard is just that THE STANDARD. And if you can’t pass at the same standards as the men then you’re not cut out for it. That goes for Rangers, Special Forces, The Unit etc.
It may sound brutal in this day and age, but I’m sure every service member (current or veteran) has a story to tell about serving with females on Ops. In my experience, they absolutely have their place with surveillance, HUMINT and interrogation duties, but during physically demanding training they will find it difficult, especially over a protracted training period. If i recall, there have only been 3 or 4 females to have ever passed ‘P Company’ (pre-parachute selection). P Company culminates in several arduous tests over 5 days, rather than continuous assessment over several months during UKSF Selection. I don’t believe any female has ever passed Royal Marines Commando training. Both P Company and Royal Marines courses are known to be extremely arduous and notorious courses in the British Military, but not a patch on UKSF Selection, which often finishes with less than 10 successful candidates from an initial course of 200+.
One woman has passed the AACC
roger that
@@szmakesbeats14.
There's been quite a few to pass both all arms versions of the respective courses (which is impressive) but none have been through the full depot training.
@@OMT988 It just proves the point that for almost all female soldiers SF is out of their reach.. one Officer in 20 odd years of open selection? Good fo rher, I bet she is fit as fuck, but she is not going to be doing grunt work.. The only fear is having different standards for initial selection for any course...
Representation should never outweigh qualification. In any role! To try only patronises the representative.
What is interesting is that women tend to dominate roles where analytics are widely used. Women predominantly were recruited at Bletchley Park as code breakers plus in the SOE. There are specialist roles for different people in society. You probably will find young computer kids working for MI5 or MI6.
Women also are tops in archeology as they are good at digging up the past.
I wouldn't even manage to get past the gate at Hereford, let alone complete day 1😂
He says it's obvious that the standards wouldn't be lowered but unfortunately it's not obvious: standards for the rest of the army have been slashed so women can pass them. I served as an SAS reservist and I was pretty fit but I wasn't an exceptional athlete. My sister, on the other hand, was an exceptional athlete who ran cross country for the county, played football and rugby and rowed for Cambridge University and was a decent climber and mountaineer. She was about as tough as it gets for a woman but when she put on my full SAS bergen she wilted and said there was no way on Earth she could carry that. We're just different.
Who’s arguing for women to be given preferential treatment in selection? If the MOD or Pentagon aren’t demanding that women be given a leg up or be allowed to work to a different standard in Tier 1 units, then why are we even debating whether women can pass selection?
Way back in the late seventies when it was proposed that woman should be allowed to apply for selection it was simply not an option.
There probably is physical restrictions for women concerning SAS selection.I see benefits for establishing a seperate women’s selection course I am sure there is a place for highly trained specialist females and a female branch of the regiment why not.
There are women who have passed P Company, 2 l believe, and 1 the All Arms Commando course.
One or two yes.
One woman, a Surgeon Lieutenant failed the All Arms by 10 seconds, the instructors said fitness wise she was really good, but the time was the time, don’t know if she attempted it again
@davidharris4062 P Coy isn't based or failed that way, it's an overall score of events.
Five females have passed the All Arms Commando Course.
Four females have passed P-Coy (one off whom is Para Reg).
Only one.
A female captain, she was also an Ironman type athlete.
As far as I’m aware not one female has passed the Royal Marine selection. YET!
Paras and Marines don’t want them though and it’s common sense.
There are no second tier bullets/ fires/ or bad guys special for those who couldn't meet "the standard".
6:55 The Heckler & Koch G3 is a select-fire battle rifle chambered in 7.62×51mm NATO developed in the 1950s by the German firearms manufacturer Heckler & Koch, in collaboration with the Spanish state-owned firearms manufacturer CETME.
The G3 design traces its roots in the work of a group of Mauser engineers - including two gentlemen by the names of Ludwig Vorgrimmler and Theodor Löffler - who, by the end of World War II, were engaged to implement the roller-delayed blowback system of the Mg.42 machine-gun to the 8mm Kurz Mp.44 assault rifle design. The resulting prototype - dubbed the Gerät 06H - was meant to be the next step in the evolution of the Mp.44, as it wouldn’t need a gas system, which would make it easier to maintain and both faster and cheaper to manufacture
The war came to an end with the defeat of Germany before the project could see completion, but those technicians had a chance to keep working on the idea of a roller-delayed blowback rifle in the following years, first in France - at the State-owned CEAM center in Mulhouse
Cut and paste expert😂
MG42 isn't roller delayed it's roller locked.
14 int and other roles perfect but front line no sorry.
The key words Lindsay has used are 'passes legitimately', and he is absolutely right, I've had any amount of people having a go at me when I have written that a woman 'passing' Para selection here in the UK was unlikely to be a legitimate pass. This is reality.
The main thing being they're not paras. One was/is a Rupert so she'd have spent most her time learning how to be twat and the other was/is a medic if I remember. Not all Parachute Regiment are Paras. Need to do depot and be in an infantry battalion to be a Para. Can't just rock up do a little pre parachute regiment selection course and p coy for 5 days and think you're a para just because you've got a maroon lid
There is 1 fully badged female member of the Parachute Regiment.
Three other females have passed All Arms P-Coy.
If they do let them in, then standards should not be reduced - and that goes for all roles...
The levels and numbers of injuries that occur amongst women candidates for these roles have been life changing for them and in a really bad way.
Says to a Scottish man, “I don’t
Know what it is like over there in England “
Ooops
I think the SAS have got it right. Women eligible but have to meet same standard, which is almost impossible physically. None have passed as yet. But who knows: one day?
SEAL assessment (BUDs) is open to women.
Not being disrespectful but the seals ain't the same league has the sbs or sas uk rm are better in everyway
Yeah…..
@@neiljobe3065My comment was in response to his statement that he made around 4 minutes, “women are banned from being SEALs”. That is false. It wasn’t meant as a comparison.
guys, people who now.. i live in merthyr tydfil, 5 miles from the storey arms n pen y fan, ive seen sas on selection up there, many many times in my 52 years. on winter and summer selection, sas reqruits have died up there on selection, fit, tough, rock hard men. and ive not seen one woman, do that yomp, in full gear, with a weapon, ammo, supplies, extra ammo gmpg, gren@des , mortars or law`s and make it up over the first rise!
United Kingdom
England, Scotland, Wales
He’s from Scotland 👌🙌
Not to forget Northern Ireland as well.
Women are great at certain roles .
Look at the SOE WW2.
Incredible tough and taking on tasks like covert radio ops that were vitually suicide missions, with nothing but torture and death at the end.
I am so glad he said that most people would say that women should not be in the SAS, because I thought he was going to give the woke answer. I for one believe that women shouldn't even be in an infantry regiment, unless that regiment is made up entirely of women. I'm all for women being in the military to fullfil certain roles, but there's a good reason why historically, men have done the fighting. Also, I remember being in Northern Ireland in South Armagh and an RUC cop was shot with a Barret 50 cal, it was so loud that the multiple commander initially sent the contact report as an IED. 🤣🤣
Woman serve in SRR but that is a lot different to the SAS!!
When it comes to long distance running etc I've always been under the impression that woman hold the advantage.
There definitely were women in the SAS, Ross Kemp outed it all in his series "Ultimate Farce" 4 seasons of it 😂
😂
To be the best, you can take only the best.
Pigs will fly before any woman would meet the standards required.
There is one standard, and there are such differences that makes it impossible for women.
That is reality, and reality bites
Anyone who has ever worked any sort of practical job will quickly tell you how lifting heavy things/ hard work was deemed a "man's job".
I know I have had many such experiences in my life. All about equality until there is a moving box.
The candidates commanding officer needs to approve their soldiers to attempt selection. No commanding officer would.
Didnt the US marines already run this experiment?
Training women for front line combat units they found they couldnt carry as much, couldnt go as far or as fast, their bodies atrophied faster in teh field and every unit they were attached to had lower combat effectiveness.
What are we most interested in - maintaining capabilities or not hurting some feelings.
Absolutely always equal opportunity, but never outcome.
i may be wrong but i think only 1 or 2 have passed the royal marines commando course, wonder how many have passed selection for the paras.
None past, some were passed.
I know a guy, ex RM and apparently a female was given way more chances than men, and so much more assistance
Not one single female has passed Royal Marines Commando training.
In 22yrs 5 females have passed the All Arms Commando Course (the 5th passed last week).
Passing All Arms Commando is not the same as passing RM Commando training.
To date 4 females have passed All Arms P Company and 1 of those is a fully badged member of the Parachute Regiment whilst the other 3 are from associated Corps.
Here's a perspective that I've never seen mentioned. Let's assume that a woman was able to make it through SAS/SBS/Seals etc selection. My question would be how effective could she actually be because she would be outed by the press incredibly quickly just because of the size of the story it would be. The PR machine would find that incredibly hard to resist. Also very few people would believe she made it without the standards being changed...
I like how the european country (can't recall if it was Norway or Finland) did it. Instead of training to be special ops. they are trained by the special forces operators themselves to be elite support for the special operations for specific type of missions that required female soldiers. Basically, the women might be as capable as the main spec ops, but they are combat capable as any elite infantry or airborne bridages out there.
I can't get past what might happen to a female prisoner of war so it's a big NO from me.
Jobs where physical activity is an important attribute (Solider, fireman, oil rig worker etc) should have a single standard. Putting other people in physical danger just for the sake of diversity is wrong IMO.
Regarding women in any area of mlitary service. The key word is equal. So if they meet the required standards, then they are good to go. Applying DEI politics only ruins the meaning of any standards. It only means that boxes on forms are ticked and not that the work gets done. I wonder how Tulsi Gebhard would do? She certainly has the aptitude. I do respect this lady who has quite a career in the US military.
Regarding the G3 rifle. It is a great weapon but a bit of a pig to strip and reassemble. The roller block system can be awkward. The telescoping butt version is easy to carry even though it weighs about the same as the FAL L1A1.Which is much easier to strip and clean in the field.
There’s women who work with the SAS just haven’t done selection
A team is only as good as its weakest link -
That is how it should be done, let them have access but at the same level.
Does anyone know what watch hes wearing.
Just looks like a standard apple watch with a karky strap.
All saints t shirt. Who spends 100 quid on a plane black t shirt.
Feature wall in the background, that will be a nightmare to cover on the next fashion cycle.
Sas or no his wife best be responsible for his clothes and interior design!
Maybe there has never been a woman IN the sas, but if my memory of the news is correct, there is at least one woman who WAS in the sas
"Are the standards the same?"
"Of course they are. That's why there are no women in the SAS"
THIS
Just keep the standards the same. The rest will take care of itself.
I’m guna say something now I want it to be took in this context when a special forces soldier is captured they are tortured badly and beaten and expected to give their lives for the mission. Now imagine a massive headline story that a woman special forces soldier has been captured and raped and tortured for days then killed their would be uproar of why was she their doing that very dangerous job even if she chose that career path. Think on that 1
I knew a woman who could carry twice the load of any man at a builders she delivered too. including putting one man to shame when he's legs went to jelly claiming up a ladder with a bag of cement under his arm for a challenge against her. she did it with ease with one bag of cements under each arm, she was half his size but had twice the motivation.
Sure she did mate and even if true that isn’t representative of the majority of females. They don’t belong in combat roles in the military trust me.
Train hard, fight easy.
Women have served with 14th Intelligence, aka, The Det, the Det could be regarded as special forces
lol
I don’t think that there are big, strong men from the Paras that can’t get through it. I think there are big, strong men from the Paras, that have the MENTAL strength to get through selection. I’m sure there’s been a good number of overweight smokers that HAVe got through, because they FUCKING WANT TO.
If & when a woman makes it through SAS/SBS selection, she'll be there because she's earned it & she deserves to be there.
I have a lot of stories from military buddies about supposedly the first two women on selection dropping out and crying within a few hours, standards dropping for women at Lympstone just as we're told they're being raised for all to put the capital C back in Royal Marine Commando, women officers who couldn't get anyone to listen to them in simulated combat at Sandhurst with a survival rate of 0 getting commendations and transferred to an infantry regiment then fast tracked through the ranks... but you never really know what's true unless you see it yourself.
You wouldn't believe what Lympstone just did to get a female Royal Marine officer through
I'm not sure what exactly my one mate does now, but he used to be a PTI in Lympstone.
For the first time in his life he's thinking about leaving the Marines altogether because it's just not the force he knows.
@directingstaff8525 go on, spill the beans please.....
@@AndusDominae, It made me very sad to read that.
It's not England it's the UK.
Also, women ARE NOT banned from trying out for Navy SEALS.
SMH bro.
England 🏴 🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴
Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should.
Women in direct combat is just a sign of a failed society and a testament to how depraved capitalism/democracy actually is.
Who are you speaking of ? United States is not a democracy.
Exactly.
Tell that to the women in the PKK or someone like the Witch in Ukraine or any number of Russian partisan groups
Can't wait to hear your alternatives to these systems .....😂 come on let's have them..