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Thanks, Hunter! These are still not my favorite for CrossFit/heavy lifting, but at the end of the day, I get their utility for some athletes/lifters, and after they break in they do feel a bit better. #stillthicccccthough
So glad I took the time to search out your full review. I am currently waiting on my Trainer + to come in the mail and your first review already had me thinking I had made a mistake in buying them. Now, I am excited again to get them! Thank you for updating! :)
Awesome - and noooo, I never want my content to give you buyers remorse. It's all part of the learning process and we all interpret gear a little differently! But yeah, the Trainer+ and Court Trainer both took a bit to grow on me due to being used to the OG Trainer, but they're solid shoes. Keep me posted on how you like them!
If you own the Trainer +, inspect the top eyelets. They're made of plastic (instead of the OG's metal eyelets) and the shoestrings wear through plastic eyelets, into the surrounding Super Fabric. No Bull replaced my shoes (warranty), however, those plastic eyelets are a definite design flaw.
Still confused about the benefits of the higher stack height. Seems like ylu can use a softer midsole to make it more comfortable. Awesome content as always!
Yeah, I’m personally not the biggest fan of it either, but I do think it could be beneficial for those with wide/flat feet that need a bit more support from their shoe’s midsole, IMO! Thank you 💪💪
I haven't personally, but I'm curious if anyone else will chime in here. I wonder if that has to do with the volume of the shoe. Do you feel like you have a lot of space between your foot and the upper?
Hi Jake, I combine boxing, HITT and resistance training. Can you recommend a shoes to suit boxing as well as these activities as I haven’t seen any reference in you very excellent videos👍
@@thatfitfriend Hi Jake- thanks very much!!! I’m a US10.5 - Width 104mm - Length 270mm. I tend towards over pronation. I Normally wear ASICS standard width running shoes. (Gel sonoma 5 trail running) No idea for heal drop- As these shoes won’t be for running I’m probably looking for a transition shoe; too flat might be a bit extreme. Really like the idea of very durable. Im 41- won’t be lifting crazy heavy but will be trying to build up some strength with squats / deadlifts slowly after a few very ‘off trained’ years. Weary of the CrossFit shoes and I don’t think the stiff midsole will work for boxing/HITT/functional circuit - my ASICS are ok but I tear the uppers around the base of the big toe and I don’t feel too stable during squats and lunges - hope that’s descriptive enough- appreciate your reply- keep up the awesome work 👍
Two questions. Are these still pretty waterproof like the OG? And have you had a chance to use the Court Trainer? Seems like an amalgamation of the Trainer and Trainer+.
So i'm looking into these as my general daily wear gym shoe. I tend to lift most days of the week, and follow it up every day with an hour long walk on the treadmill or a short jog. Do you think i'd be better off with these or the regular nobull trainers?
Great review! Im looking for a shoe that i can wear to Disney for a few days but then use in the gym when i get back. Do you think these will hold solid walking for 8 hours a day?
Thank you and I do. This is actually crazy, but I’m down here now for college cheer nationals and I brought an extra pair of my +’s for my old coach and he’s been loving them. What freaking timing 😂
Would live to see a Nike Jordan 1 revieuw the pros and cons of that shoe for lifting lol I think it's better than converse, you can spread your toes more and the sole is less compressible btw all those shoe youre filming all the time do you buy these yourself or do company's send them for free to you?
I can try to add that to the list - I’ve never worn Jordans in my life and I don’t want to do them a disservice 😅 It’s about 50/50! Some companies will send models, but I buy some as well. For example, in my last string of shoe videos I bought most of the models including the NOBULLs, On shoes, and Allbirds!
Would you choose the Nano X2 or the more expensive Trainer+? Trying to find the more versatile overall better valued shoes for general training. Thank you!
The original trainer gave me plantar fasciitis really bad. Do you think with the reworked midsole I should give these a shot, or just stick with different brands?
I think they would definitely help, but I’m not sold they’d be a perfect fix! That being said, if you have something that’s working, then I’d stick with those and hold off on these.
Love your shoe content! What’s the best way to reach you? I’m a PT and strength coach. I run a channel Overhead Athletics and think we could come up with some type of cool collab (foot assessment / shoe fit). Btw what would you recommend as a cross trainer with spacious toebox, relatively low drop, and a good sturdy design?
I'm fairly responsive on IG (@jake_boly) - a collab sounds dope! Check out the Haze Trainer and the TriBase reign 4. Those are both solid options for the contexts of your asks!
Awesome review! Thanks. I’m wondering if they’re actually motion control shoes. They’re marketed as motion control but not all shoes marketed as such are truly motion control. Meaning, if you try to bend the shoe, does the middle stay stiff? Or does it bend at the middle? I need true motion control and I appreciate the help!
It bends a tad, but not much. I can send you a vid on IG highlighting this if you want - this way you can get a more specific look/can answer more questions before investing and pulling the trigger.
@@thatfitfriend i have the primus 3 lite and geo racer knit. However both models have been thinning heavy on the sole. I messaged vivobarefoot and they will replace them for free, so thats cool. Will also get the new decon low model in obsidian and i have the Magno esc for winter.
I am a long distance runner, looking for a shoe I can hit leg day hard in, and turn around and run 1 mile on a treadmill with post workout for additional cardio. Is this the shoe for that?
Hi Jake! Can you recommend a shoe for me? I have wide, flat feet and I prefer something with low to no drop. I’ve been training in Converse but my feet slide around a bit too much when I’m doing HIIT workouts. I do a combination of weightlifting (mother over 250 so far), HIIT workouts, and functional training. I’ve been combing through your reviews, but no luck yet. I tried the STRIKE MVMNT Haze trainers but there’s not enough room in the upper part for my feet.
Are you interested in something more minimalist? If not, you could try the Solstice XT 2, could be a good well-rounded option. The Adidas Total would be good for your lifting asks, but may fall short for HIIT. Both of those models have zero-drops and wider constructions.
@@thatfitfriend I’m baaaackkk 😂 so loved the room in the toe box of the Solstice but it was too tight in the mid foot. I stumbled across your glowing review for the RAD ONE. Thoughts? Or any other suggestions?
@@thatfitfriend Hey Jake- just looking for a good overall crossfit shoe that can provide stability and enough flexibility for things like box jumps. I’m current using the nano x and they just feel too big, too wide. I don’t feel a good grasp or “grounding” when lifting. Also, this might sound silly, but they feel too “chunky” specially when doing things like jump rope.
@@cris_heals NOBULL Trainer+ will be good, but also feel heavy due to their thicker midsole. Nike Metcon 8 is meh due to its heel. Great for lifting, but lacks versatility. Have you considered other models? RAD ONE and Haze Trainer are some of the stronger trainers for CrossFit atm, too, and worth exploring!
@@thatfitfriend I looked into the Haze and RAD. Thank for the suggestion since neither came up on the basic “best shoe for crossfit” google search lol. Leaning towards the RAD not for the higher drop I’m 5’11 longer legs, so I feel like it would be better. I watched your videos comparing them. Nice work! Thank you!
@@thatfitfriend I bought Adidas trainer V. And my feet hurt real bad in those. They are the worst when I am moving my heel up and force the feet down. I was using Ski Erg and it just killed my feet even though there is not much feet movement.
@@theTORCHD Gotcha! I'm not completely surprised that an Adidas model didn't work for that fit context. They can run a little narrow/cause some discomfort for wider/flatter feet. NOBULL Trainers could be an okay option, but you may also want to explore the Nanoflex TR 2 (if you want a budget model) or Altra Solstice XT 2 (if you're not rope climbing or too worried about stability). Those models should fare a little better for your needs! Any shot you can get into a Dick's Sporting Goods or running shoe store and test some models on feet?
@@thatfitfriend Jake you are an amazing person. First of all. Thanks a lot!! And secondly, I am located in Canada (no dick’s here. Lol), I’ll go and try out the Nanoflex TR 2.0, because yes, as I am new to CrossFit, I want to have stability and learn rope climbing as well. :)
That’s a multifactorial question that lacks a ton of context. Why not both and rotate them accordingly based on what allow you to perform your best, plus, to expose your feet/ankles to different stimuli and ranges of motion? No shoe is inherently unhealthy for the feet. The barefoot shoe crew has created such a strong narrative that regular shoes are unhealthy - it’s so silly, lol.
@thatfitfriend Thanks for the reply I know this was a year old post l o l. Trying to find a decent cross trainer for my outlier feet l o l. I got flat feet and I wear custom orthotics. But my ankles tend to rotate inwards too. Have you tried the goruck ballistic trainers? I thought about trying them too. A lot of these shoes you can't try on unless you order them first
Do you think these would be more suited for longer walking/hiking than the originals? I normally just use mine for weight training and short walks. Just ordered some but I'm questioning if I should have stuck with the original trainers since I know I like those.
I think they’ll be better for longer walks, but the hiking may be an issue depending on the terrain you’re tackling. If it’s casual you should be okay - keep me posted on your thoughts!
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The biggest plot twist in shoe history!
In all seriousness, great review. Loved the detailed look.
Thanks, Hunter!
These are still not my favorite for CrossFit/heavy lifting, but at the end of the day, I get their utility for some athletes/lifters, and after they break in they do feel a bit better. #stillthicccccthough
So glad I took the time to search out your full review. I am currently waiting on my Trainer + to come in the mail and your first review already had me thinking I had made a mistake in buying them. Now, I am excited again to get them! Thank you for updating! :)
Awesome - and noooo, I never want my content to give you buyers remorse. It's all part of the learning process and we all interpret gear a little differently!
But yeah, the Trainer+ and Court Trainer both took a bit to grow on me due to being used to the OG Trainer, but they're solid shoes. Keep me posted on how you like them!
If you own the Trainer +, inspect the top eyelets. They're made of plastic (instead of the OG's metal eyelets) and the shoestrings wear through plastic eyelets, into the surrounding Super Fabric. No Bull replaced my shoes (warranty), however, those plastic eyelets are a definite design flaw.
Damn, now you’ve got me wanting to try a NoBull for the first time in years!
Haha, I’d say hold off on this one until there’s a need for a new model!
Still confused about the benefits of the higher stack height. Seems like ylu can use a softer midsole to make it more comfortable. Awesome content as always!
Yeah, I’m personally not the biggest fan of it either, but I do think it could be beneficial for those with wide/flat feet that need a bit more support from their shoe’s midsole, IMO!
Thank you 💪💪
As usual the best review
I appreciate you rocking with me!
@@thatfitfriend which your preference out of these and the Goruck ?
Awesome review!
thank you thank you!
One issue I've had with nobull is the insoles tend to move and ride up the back of the sho towards the heel. Has anyone else had this issue?
I haven't personally, but I'm curious if anyone else will chime in here.
I wonder if that has to do with the volume of the shoe. Do you feel like you have a lot of space between your foot and the upper?
Please review Nike metcon Zoom Turbo 2!!
Waiting for it’s release in the United States! Should be soon!
Hi Jake, I combine boxing, HITT and resistance training. Can you recommend a shoes to suit boxing as well as these activities as I haven’t seen any reference in you very excellent videos👍
For sure! What’s your foot width? And also, do you have a preferred heel to toe drop?
Any other context can help me suggest the shoes for you!
@@thatfitfriend Hi Jake- thanks very much!!! I’m a US10.5 - Width 104mm - Length 270mm. I tend towards over pronation. I Normally wear ASICS standard width running shoes. (Gel sonoma 5 trail running) No idea for heal drop- As these shoes won’t be for running I’m probably looking for a transition shoe; too flat might be a bit extreme. Really like the idea of very durable. Im 41- won’t be lifting crazy heavy but will be trying to build up some strength with squats / deadlifts slowly after a few very ‘off trained’ years. Weary of the CrossFit shoes and I don’t think the stiff midsole will work for boxing/HITT/functional circuit - my ASICS are ok but I tear the uppers around the base of the big toe and I don’t feel too stable during squats and lunges - hope that’s descriptive enough- appreciate your reply- keep up the awesome work 👍
Two questions. Are these still pretty waterproof like the OG? And have you had a chance to use the Court Trainer? Seems like an amalgamation of the Trainer and Trainer+.
IMO, yes! Upper is relatively unchanged. I have not yet, I need to invest in a pair. They're on my list of "to-do" models!
@@thatfitfriend thanks Jake!
@@AndrewAllen83 welcome! I’ll try to get through this model in the next month 💪 have a few models in the queue and will prioritize these for ya!
@@thatfitfriend just mail them my way! I’ll take care of the rest.
So i'm looking into these as my general daily wear gym shoe. I tend to lift most days of the week, and follow it up every day with an hour long walk on the treadmill or a short jog. Do you think i'd be better off with these or the regular nobull trainers?
Yeah, IMO these will be better compared to the normie trainers!
Great review! Im looking for a shoe that i can wear to Disney for a few days but then use in the gym when i get back. Do you think these will hold solid walking for 8 hours a day?
Thank you and I do.
This is actually crazy, but I’m down here now for college cheer nationals and I brought an extra pair of my +’s for my old coach and he’s been loving them. What freaking timing 😂
@@thatfitfriend that's awesome! Enjoy your time and thanks for your help!
Would live to see a Nike Jordan 1 revieuw the pros and cons of that shoe for lifting lol I think it's better than converse, you can spread your toes more and the sole is less compressible btw all those shoe youre filming all the time do you buy these yourself or do company's send them for free to you?
I can try to add that to the list - I’ve never worn Jordans in my life and I don’t want to do them a disservice 😅
It’s about 50/50! Some companies will send models, but I buy some as well. For example, in my last string of shoe videos I bought most of the models including the NOBULLs, On shoes, and Allbirds!
Would you choose the Nano X2 or the more expensive Trainer+? Trying to find the more versatile overall better valued shoes for general training. Thank you!
Not necessarily, both should work fine for your context, so I'd go with the the model that looks the best/has best price point for you!
The original trainer gave me plantar fasciitis really bad. Do you think with the reworked midsole I should give these a shot, or just stick with different brands?
I think they would definitely help, but I’m not sold they’d be a perfect fix! That being said, if you have something that’s working, then I’d stick with those and hold off on these.
Just get barefoot shoes and let your feet work like they're supposed to. Don't be a lab rat for dumbass companies and their "advanced" soles..
Going to want something minimal/barefoot to fix that
Love your shoe content! What’s the best way to reach you? I’m a PT and strength coach. I run a channel Overhead Athletics and think we could come up with some type of cool collab (foot assessment / shoe fit). Btw what would you recommend as a cross trainer with spacious toebox, relatively low drop, and a good sturdy design?
I'm fairly responsive on IG (@jake_boly) - a collab sounds dope!
Check out the Haze Trainer and the TriBase reign 4. Those are both solid options for the contexts of your asks!
Is this shoes good for f45 training? Or what is the best for f45 training?
It can work!
Nano X4, Nike Free Metcon 5, Altra Solstice XT 2, PUMA velociti 2 all work as well :)
Awesome review! Thanks. I’m wondering if they’re actually motion control shoes. They’re marketed as motion control but not all shoes marketed as such are truly motion control. Meaning, if you try to bend the shoe, does the middle stay stiff? Or does it bend at the middle? I need true motion control and I appreciate the help!
It bends a tad, but not much. I can send you a vid on IG highlighting this if you want - this way you can get a more specific look/can answer more questions before investing and pulling the trigger.
Its unclear if these shoes have a big toe compartment. The old nanos had that. Recently switched to vivobarfoot though.
Which model are you rocking from Vivo?
I just bought the Asana and Geo Court III for review!
@@thatfitfriend i have the primus 3 lite and geo racer knit. However both models have been thinning heavy on the sole. I messaged vivobarefoot and they will replace them for free, so thats cool. Will also get the new decon low model in obsidian and i have the Magno esc for winter.
@@greenwolf2299 they’re pretty good about replacing which is dope! Thanks for sharing! I love both of those models for training
I am a long distance runner, looking for a shoe I can hit leg day hard in, and turn around and run 1 mile on a treadmill with post workout for additional cardio. Is this the shoe for that?
Eh, hit or miss.
I think you'd better off with the Nano X3 or TriBase Reign 5, though. Go Reign for a lower drop and Nano if you like a higher drop!
Hi Jake! Can you recommend a shoe for me? I have wide, flat feet and I prefer something with low to no drop. I’ve been training in Converse but my feet slide around a bit too much when I’m doing HIIT workouts. I do a combination of weightlifting (mother over 250 so far), HIIT workouts, and functional training.
I’ve been combing through your reviews, but no luck yet. I tried the STRIKE MVMNT Haze trainers but there’s not enough room in the upper part for my feet.
Are you interested in something more minimalist?
If not, you could try the Solstice XT 2, could be a good well-rounded option. The Adidas Total would be good for your lifting asks, but may fall short for HIIT. Both of those models have zero-drops and wider constructions.
@@thatfitfriend I’ll give the Solstice a try, thank you! Also my comment was supposed to say nothing over 250…not mother 🤦🏻♀️
@@deemaabuabdo5633 haha, I used context clues there!
Def lmk if that works, if not, back to the drawing board!
@@thatfitfriend I’m baaaackkk 😂 so loved the room in the toe box of the Solstice but it was too tight in the mid foot. I stumbled across your glowing review for the RAD ONE. Thoughts? Or any other suggestions?
Im debating between the Nobull trainer + and the Metcon 8.
Give me more context! What are you comparing specifically?
@@thatfitfriend Hey Jake- just looking for a good overall crossfit shoe that can provide stability and enough flexibility for things like box jumps. I’m current using the nano x and they just feel too big, too wide. I don’t feel a good grasp or “grounding” when lifting. Also, this might sound silly, but they feel too “chunky” specially when doing things like jump rope.
@@cris_heals NOBULL Trainer+ will be good, but also feel heavy due to their thicker midsole.
Nike Metcon 8 is meh due to its heel. Great for lifting, but lacks versatility.
Have you considered other models? RAD ONE and Haze Trainer are some of the stronger trainers for CrossFit atm, too, and worth exploring!
@@thatfitfriend I looked into the Haze and RAD. Thank for the suggestion since neither came up on the basic “best shoe for crossfit” google search lol. Leaning towards the RAD not for the higher drop I’m 5’11 longer legs, so I feel like it would be better. I watched your videos comparing them. Nice work! Thank you!
Hey Jake, I have flat feet and my feet tend to hurt when I am doing my crossfit workouts. is this shoe good for flat feet?
What are you currently wearing? How does that model fit through the midfoot?
@@thatfitfriend I bought Adidas trainer V. And my feet hurt real bad in those. They are the worst when I am moving my heel up and force the feet down. I was using Ski Erg and it just killed my feet even though there is not much feet movement.
@@theTORCHD Gotcha! I'm not completely surprised that an Adidas model didn't work for that fit context. They can run a little narrow/cause some discomfort for wider/flatter feet.
NOBULL Trainers could be an okay option, but you may also want to explore the Nanoflex TR 2 (if you want a budget model) or Altra Solstice XT 2 (if you're not rope climbing or too worried about stability). Those models should fare a little better for your needs! Any shot you can get into a Dick's Sporting Goods or running shoe store and test some models on feet?
@@thatfitfriend Jake you are an amazing person. First of all. Thanks a lot!! And secondly, I am located in Canada (no dick’s here. Lol), I’ll go and try out the Nanoflex TR 2.0, because yes, as I am new to CrossFit, I want to have stability and learn rope climbing as well. :)
Vivo barefoot or no bull for healthier feet ?
That’s a multifactorial question that lacks a ton of context. Why not both and rotate them accordingly based on what allow you to perform your best, plus, to expose your feet/ankles to different stimuli and ranges of motion?
No shoe is inherently unhealthy for the feet. The barefoot shoe crew has created such a strong narrative that regular shoes are unhealthy - it’s so silly, lol.
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They look like Hoka's.
Do they run warm
Yes, most NOBULL trainers do
@thatfitfriend Thanks for the reply I know this was a year old post l o l.
Trying to find a decent cross trainer for my outlier feet l o l.
I got flat feet and I wear custom orthotics. But my ankles tend to rotate inwards too.
Have you tried the goruck ballistic trainers?
I thought about trying them too.
A lot of these shoes you can't try on unless you order them first
No Bull, more like All Bull.
😂😂
lifting performance compared to Nike Metcon 7/ 8 ?
Eh, not my favorite due to the toe spring and thicker midsole! Metcons outperform these for strictly lifting.
@@thatfitfriend interesting!
Do you think these would be more suited for longer walking/hiking than the originals? I normally just use mine for weight training and short walks. Just ordered some but I'm questioning if I should have stuck with the original trainers since I know I like those.
I think they’ll be better for longer walks, but the hiking may be an issue depending on the terrain you’re tackling. If it’s casual you should be okay - keep me posted on your thoughts!