CHEAP, Easy Scatter Terrain! | Home Made modelling plaster for tabletop terrain!
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- Опубліковано 9 бер 2020
- OK, so NO, you don't need to stock pile TP for your terrain projects. This video was actually just a complete fluke and bad/good timing (depending how you look at it) with current events as my shipment of Luke's Modelling Compound from Geek Gaming was destroyed at the boarder, and I had no Sculptamold!! So thought I'd have a little fun at the beginning there before releasing.
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For the record: While you can use TP when you run out of sculptamold, as this video brilliantly shows. It doesn’t work both ways, you CANNOT use scultamold when you run out of TP.
Instructions unclear, pancakes taste awful.
Black Magic Craft LOL !!! ... Best comment ! YOU WIn ! ; D
Hahaha, yeah that was pretty good Jeremy😆. Man, there was just no way to make it feel like I wasn’t trying to bake something with those bowls. Maybe I need a hub cap or something more manly next time to mix in.
I am so glad I wasn't eating or drinking anything when I read this comment, otherwise it might have quite literally killed me. As it is, I did laugh out loud which is something I don't normally do when watching videos or reading comments, so well done sir.
So funny
what the hell happened here
Stock up on that TP before it is too late and the world has fully converted to bidets!!!
Or 3 sea shells????
Love the videos!!!!
@@MarkLewis... I was thinking the same thing
@@SneilYman Yeah... Bad movie... funny part.
Except for one issue with that... bidets require water... and the utility prices for water (and electricity) have been escalating for years now... it's as expensive to drink water at our house as it is to buy the most affordable bottled drinking water. "Utopia" comes with escalating costs. True story.
@@damuses1452 Man that sucks. My city tap water is free and is so good there's a company that bottles it basically straight from the tap and sells it.
Not using TP for this, while TP is easy to use, i find soaking some regular newspaper and those newspaper advertisment inserts (the non glossy stuff) to be basically free. Just raid your local paper trash can and fish out days old newspaper. Soak it in water over night and put it into a cheap blender (or use your home blender while the wife's not looking). Then mix it with plaster and PVA glue*. I find it to be much more durable than the TP stuff.
Edit: *PVA glue is optional, but if you throw in some starch as well, you get a super smooth paste, which you can sand, if needed, but will hold fine details. I got that idea from one of the papermache channels that do the big papermache sculpts and such.
This, and paper towels work just as well as TP. This is basically just a mild papier mache/plaster mix - a technique known to all old train hobbyists for about half a million years now.
What starch/pva/plaster ratio do you use?
I love how this channel caters to my pitiful attention span with cool little on-screen animations
Hahaha😁
I love watching your videos. Its amazing how small of a community the minatures, and minature terrian world is. When i was researching on the subject about a year ago, i was initially investigating 3d printers. It became obvious early on that tabletop minatures played a huge part in reviews for 3d printer capabilities because of the detail involved. That in turn opened me up to other people printing minis, and i noticed that too was a small core group of people as well. Well, when you watch enough of those videos, painting those minis comes up and not long after that i discovered, yourself, goobertown, and black magic. Im subbed to all 3 of you guys now because of the great content you all put forth. Thank you for documenting your passion for us to see and learn from.
I'd LOVE to see a video on making your own molds like the ones you use for scatter terrian. (I know those ones were purchasable, but im referring to your comment on possibly a future video) My 12 year old daughter is really crafty and id love to be able to make stuff with her from start to finish. Especially if we'll be stuck in quarantine in the near future. 😧
From one Canadian to another, Fantasitic Channel! When i talk to people about your channel i always throw in there, "and he's Canadian too" 😃
Sorry for not replying properly earlier but thank you for that well thought out comment. Love that, and you’re right about the community. Such a great group with this hobby.😊. I’ll definitely be doing the home made rock moulds at some point! And yeah, crafting with your daughter through this quarantine craziness sounds like the perfect way to spend time together.😊
If you're in Australia you can get a Sculptamold alternative called Sculpt-It Modelling Mix from Officeworks, it only comes in 10kg for $69 but it works out to be about half the price of 10kg of Sculptamold which is roughly $140 - $150. I imagine other countries must have alternatives like that as well.
Toilet paper = apocalyptic currency.
you laugh now but wait till it becomes a reality...One of the first luxuries to go with the apocalipse
I have used it as a currency during my time in the military.
@@mscandlex with the coronavirus and multiple countries here in the EU shutting down all social activities, most stores are running out of toilet paper actually.
Newspaper paper gone through a paper-shredder works as well, maybe better since you can get long strands of paper.
And it's free.
Some even use this to create a papercrete shell as a roof on earthbag domes/housing, so it has great potential in wargaming where we need to make shatterproof terrain.
Surely DM Scotty has caused shortages in the past? Haha
I'm loving this budget crafting. I'm always trying to save some money.
Thanks for the advice! I'm just getting started with all this, and there are so many options for materials!
Love the idea of using foam as a space filler. Thanks for the video
Great video. You continue to motivate us to keep crafting
I use one of those radiator style electric oil heaters to dry out projects in the winter. Works a charm.
I've just discovered your channel ( I apologise) FANTASTIC, content , ideas, commentary , music and quality of diaramas is on point, also showing mistakes made is a breath of fresh air ( it happens ) and the ways to get over it is a welcome break. I will now binge Watch all your uploads and please keep them coming.
P.s. we have no toilet rolls in the UK now anywhere, so at least when we die, our asses will be clean.... hilarious 😂😂😂😂😂😷 Much love from across the pond
Lol haha
Thanks for the kind words Ian and happy to have you on the channel! Glad you’re enjoying the content😊
I mix my TP with the water then run it through an old big kitchen blender before adding the plaster. It makes a smoother mix and mixes with the plaster better. It's also easier to judge the amount of water you need so as to mix the right amounts, not too much or too little.
Sweet trick i have made "homemade" paper from toilet papers even newspapers too! I even added cotton! I enjoyed this video and I look forward to even more terrain videos! So cool keep 'em comin'!
You might want to make some resin molds to hold the rock molds. You can then remove them to de-mold but have them to keep the rock molds shape and level the rock molds while they dry.
If you don't have plaster of Paris, you can also use baking flower instead. The effect is the same.
A couple of cheap and easy ways to get your watered down tp to be fluffy is 1: if you have a multi speed drill, use a spare mixer blade. Or 2: go to one of the big box stores and get a cheap food mixer. Or three go to a thrift store and get a used food mixer. Get a large mesh strainer while you're at it. Put your TP in a mixing bowl add water till it's about halfway up the TP. Press the TP into the water till all the TP is wet. Use the mixer on low and mix the TP and water till it's completely mixed. Now pore the TP into the mesh strainer and let it drain till there's almost no water dripping from it. Dump/scoop the TP back into the mixing bowl and use the mixer again to fluff it up. Now add about 1/4 the volume of plaster into the bowl. Mix on the lowest setting of your mixer and slowly add a little by little bit of water into the bowl till you have a cottage cheese look to it.
Though if you want it to work best you will have to completely dry the broken down TP and refluff it before mixing the plaster to it. You can also make large batches this way and store it for later use, but only if the TP is completely dry. They you just use what you need at the time by adding water bit by bit and mix to a cottage cheese consistency.
Yes! It is a savior recipe. Sculptamold is literally unobtainable in my region. I'm very eager to try now your TP stuff -)))
And here's some rocks that I prepared earlier. Now you'll need too preheat your oven to 400 degrees and mix until just combined...
Good life lesson on leaving the plaster in the mold. I haven't left it longer than a day or 2 so it's good to learn from your mistake :)
Great way, went to experiment! I'm trying to finish the witcher diorama, inspired by your work with Luke.=)
Man I just love This method.
Amazing way to do quick terrain and even my bases for kings of war.
ivan De leon or you could get sculptamold for like 17 bucks...
@@thomaskiser3886 But this still works great and is a fraction of the cost if you want to save. but yes, you can do that too.
Well, you can't find that fancy sculptamold in Mexico.
:^]
Really nice and simple. I’ll try this for my next diorama thanks
You are the first Canadian I have ever heard saying eh at the end of a sentence. I have actually been in Canada twice for a couple of months each time. Its sonething I always wondered about eh!
Well I think its safe to say I'll never look at cottage cheese the same way again....
Side note: I *really* need to buy some of the Woodland Scenics rock molds. Emil over at Squidmar did a really cool video where he used one and some UV Resin to make some really convincing chunks of ice.
i cant say how much i love seeing canadian product, as a french canadian i find it hard to find the equivalent product the Uk use , but with you i can simply read it :D
If you do not have access to plaster, flour works as well, just prime it with a primer after it dries to stop it from falling off and it helps preserve the flour. You can layer the paper and flour and then add a flour mix over the top. Use wood glue for the top layer once you form your shape and then prime everything... You can use the same methods to make masks but fair warning, it can stink if not primed totally, that is why you top it off with a wood glue before priming it with a primer...
Thanks for sharing. Great idea, I don't have molds. I was thinking of the plaster bandage strips, so thanks. Planning on a Sand dune 12" high (1/100 scale due to lack of space) for Wright Bros. Flight (1/39 scale Bi-Plane including dune crest) as it's about to take off. Thanks again
Your website is very helpful!!
The shocked gasps as you cut the roll really sold me on the video.
Hehehe😝
Wait...am I watching Neil's Meals here? 😂
Fantastic DIY, Neil. PoP mixed with TP for the win. This hack is gonna come in mighty handy for the whole terrain / modeling / miniature community, my friend - and we thank you. Yep.
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Thanks Heather!!😁
Back in the day, you could buy asbestos by the bag at Sears. That was great fiber to add to plaster of Paris. Who knew?
Eyyyyyy, new vid!
Hello, that's a great idea. It's a shame that there are not so many great products like DAP Plaster of paris in Germany. Thanks for the great video, will definitely try to mix the mass with toilet paper. Thanks & greetings - Tino
Your shop is fantastic! Price are so good.
Glad to hear!🙂
Brilliant!! Do you have any videos on tools and materials for dioramas? Cheers!!
I am from Texas but in Thailand now and was shocked when I got a 50 pound bag of plaster for 4.50 US. It's strong too....
Great video. Have you tried to just mixt plaster with your celluclay instead of bothering with the toilet paper?
Just wanted to share a terrain tip from Mel the Terrain Tutor in the UK, rather than using the expensive rubber molds, you can make cheap one time use rock molds from Tin Foil!
Yes I’ve seen that idea. Thanks for pointing that out! Love Mel🙂
Thanks ! I forgot to add the link for anyone interested: ua-cam.com/video/IaLpzNaVUaM/v-deo.html
Liked in the first minute.. I'm loving this.
Haha, awesome. :) Some here don't share our sense of humor and were offended instead of seeing it as some light hearted fun. Glad someone liked it.😊
Hi, I was just thinking that, you can use an old blender for the water/tp, that would shred it up to a fine pulp then mix it in a bowl with the plaster, that should make it a little stronger and remove any big/ long bits that may show up. Just a thought!
Yeah and I thought about this after the fact too. It probably would really help thing out a lot if you were to do that and speed up drying time.
A rotary wire brush works wonders too. Or so I'm told.
I use a blender I picked up for a fiver for exactly this. Works a charm
genial. Saludos desde Argentina!!!
Thanks from France, i try to build a cave with this tips ;)
Great video have you ever use 5 minute drywall mud it has plaster of Paris in it and you get a big bag for the same price you get plaster of Paris in the half gallon
No, I’ll have to give that a go! Thanks for the tip🙂
Was amused when you through out the instant paper mache in the end...the very stuff sculptamold is made of! No toilet paper was needed all along! Still good method that ppl can use on the fly! Cheers
nice trick ! Did you test to mix cellu clay with plaster ? as they are both cheap, it could be a good solution
Cornholio: *Triggered*
The date this video came out.. who would have known we would have a TP shortage... Now I know why :P
If you cut the celuclay 50/50 with plaster of paris, you have sculptamold. Toilet paper and celuclay are the same thing. Same as celulose blow in insulation. They just add boric acid as a flame retardant and insect repellent
Have you heard of the german company NOCH? It has a rock forming system similar to woodland scenics and other really cool stuff for landscape modeling.
Hosted a warhammer game after your video, had great turn out but noticed my terrain was gone and never heard from those people again. I don understand
I have found an awesome alternative to Sculptamold. Use your basic Plaster Paris with GreenFiber R13-R60 Blow in insulation its non itching and it only cost 6 bucks for a huge bag of it . You mix 1 part Plaster to 2 Parts Fiber then pore in your water. About 1 part water for me I'm pretty quick with it. More plaster makes it set faster more water makes it set slower. It can be smoothed and teased to any shape. It drys a off white even though insulation is dark grey. ALSO PICK OUT LARGE PLASTIC STRIPS it can contain large recycled plastic bag strips they vary in colors.
Awesome tip man!🙂
70k subs!!!!! DAMN!!!!
Thanks man😊
great vid. Could you use the CelluClay (instead of T.P.) and Plaster of Paris to make a homemade sculptamold? It would save ypu from having to throw it away.
Yeah that’s exactly what I plan on doing with it. Had others suggest the same thing🙂
I'm planing on 3d printing some rocks for my diorama that I'm making because I can't find molds in my area for those who have tried it before is it a good idea to use 3d printed rocks?
It's called Papier-mâché. An ancient sculpting technique.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papier-m%C3%A2ch%C3%A9
Paper mache warps and takes ages to dry. The plaster gardens through a reaction apart from the drying process. But yes, very similar. 🙂
I love cheep. You sir are a god
Who needs sculpt putty when you have toilet paper, only issue with getting this tissue is there is none on the shelves XD.
haha I know. It was a pretty big coincidence I started this video right before a TP shortage was about to happen lol!
@@RealTerrainHobbies haha yeah
It’s ok now
Nice pearl handle Cutco knife.
Hehe, I used to sell the stuff years back😋
Neil, Any information on what would be the effect of mixing in to your leftover CelluClay additional Plaster of Paris? Or better yet Old Newspapers or Crape Paper? As a thickening agent.
~Jim
Hmm, have t thought of that. It could work I think? Would make for good filler possibly. Might just give that a go and see what happens!
At the worst, you can donate it to a grade school art class.
I have a bag of celluclay that was given to me and I mix it with plaster of paris.
plaster of paris, I believe, isn't exactly what sculptamold and lukes use, I think they use a more sturdy plaster for less chipping.
Would this work on chipboard instead of foamcore? Not a huge fan of foamcore. Then again!, maybe just me! Do you think chipboard will hold and not warp with all the moisture?
I’m not sure. If I took a guess I have a feeling the moisture would case it to warp 😬
very new to this. trying to replicate this project to determine if i will enjoy this hobby without initially spending too much money. with that said, what is the thick brown paint you use for the base color?
Broken dry wall chunks work great as rocks as long as you primer them before painting:>)
I like how you kept the choir and orchestra out of shot.
Neil, toilet paper could also be substituted with a mash made of old newspaper, that is if people haven't gone back to using newspapers to wipe their behinds like when I was growing up , lol :-D
Preferably he un used newspaper, lmao! :-D
I make it from bicarbonate of soda modge podge and TP when I don't have plaster.it dries very quickly
If I find somewhere toilet paper, I'll give it a try but if I go to my local stores I didn't find cheap toilet paper because the people are crazy. Is it helpful to put these tp in a mixer before watering?
I found it better to wet it first, rather than trying to pre mix it dry. Although good luck finding toilet paper now!😬
Have you considered mixing the CelluClay with Plaster? I mean it IS wood fiber, right?
Yeah someone else suggested this to me. Definitely going to give it a try and see how it works.
Are they actually singing " Corona" in the backing track?
I take it you bought all the TP at the Costco in Seattle as well?
Yeah Josh, sorry man but I can’t be running out of this stuff 20, 30 years down the line.🤷♂️
lol I live in Marysville, the TP was gone, but now they have more, 1 per card though lol
КАК ПЛОХО ЧТО НЕТ ПЕРЕВОДА.МНЕ ВАШЕ ИЗОБРЕТЕНИЕ ТАК НРАВИТЬСЯ.НО ПЛОХО ПОНИМАЮ.НО ВМЕРАВНО СМОТРЮ ЧТО ВЫ ПОКАЗЫВАЕТЕ. СУПЕР.
Dude been to all 5 supermarkets round me can't find a single roll stop showing off because you've got some 😂😂
Lol sorry!
You have a cup for washing your paint brushes, ha! Real Terrain uses a vase.
would be nice if there was a starter set with only the bare minum that you think you need to get started
in the shop
I’ll consider at least putting together a list maybe of the bare essentials. I was thinking about doing a guide for just getting started and I could put the list in there
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Dammit, where is the carrot cake i expected at the end?
Use salt 4 faster drying
i don't know if you have this in Canada but check your local lumber company and check for the blown insulation made from newspaper works great and cheaper than toilet paper i use it all the time. "in place of toilet paper."
Oh nice! Yeah we definitely use that blown in insulation and you are dead on it would make for a better mix. Great tip!
That must be a little tough on the bum.
@@BlackMagicCraftOfficial hahaha
@@RealTerrainHobbies Luke did do a video where he said he started using blown cellulose insulation instead of toilet paper and discusses the ratios here (ua-cam.com/video/8p4OMTHQ7Eo/v-deo.html). There is another video where he discusses buying large bags of the stuff and he's his usual entertaining self but I can't find that one. I've seen the blown cellulose insulation at Lowe's here in Canada for something like $10 for 10kg. Fair warning, it's well packed in a bag and when you don't open it carefully you'll have that stuff EVERYWHERE.
So the toilet paper shortage... it was you!
I just get the used toilet paper out of the cistern. It’s already “ painted “ with earth tones, so all that’s left is adding the scatter and foliage. And depending what your diet is, sometimes not even that! I save a lot of money this way. And to cut down on the smell I get a whole forest of those scented pine tree air fresheners. Okay. See ya next time.
Lol oh man. That must be quite the table you have there Norm😆
hahaha geez 😂
can i know the name of the song that start at 10:00 please?
It’s called Goths by Bonnie Grace.👍. I love that one.
You could add PoP to the celluclay rather than bin it
I will be doing just that🙂
Hi how to make the molder?
Welcome to cooking with neil
Must have missed something. What is the purpose of the toilet paper when using the rock molds? Why not just use plaster?
Sorry, to make them light weight. Using a lot on this current project and don’t want it to weigh a ton.
I love the music is this video. What is the song?
It’s calle “The Goths” by Bonnie Grace🙂
@@RealTerrainHobbies I love Celtic music like this. Send me a playlist!!! LOL
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This is the reposition-able flooring adhesive I use. If you use it to build miniatures, it’s possibly a lifetime supply for around $30. It is very thick and can be thinned with a little water.
Could you put your toilet paper and water in a blender before adding plaster? Could it make it more smooth?
Yes you are bang on, that is the best way to go about it. I thought of this after the fact as well. :)
I think if customs destroys something like that they should HAVE to replace it free of charge! 😡 What blows my mind is the fact that I hear of SO MANY people having even their clearly labeled item destroyed YET you RARELY hear of them ACTUALLY FINDING any drugs!🤨🤨😒 Obviously they aren’t finding that much since the drug supply on the streets doesn’t seem to be decreasing at all. At least not here in the US. Hope it’s different in Canada!
I do really appreciate these tips! As someone who doesn’t have a lot of money to purchase art supplies. Especially since COVID19 has hit. 😕😞 Thats the irony...COVID has caused us to have tons of free time while being stuck at home...which should mean loads more time to work on art projects..but it’s also caused us to lose work. Thus leaving little to no money for art supplies as we are struggling to even pay bills & buy food.
Those regulations have nothing to do with narcotics, they're to do with toxic, poisonous, acidic, vaporous, carcinogenic, or other hazardous materials. Invasive insects, diseases, microbes, etc. Organic compounds, such as paper material, anything fibrous, or other organic materials (yes, dirt, substrate, media, etc are all organic materials), and anything containing those compounds, need to be properly treated and stored. Frankly, the import and export regulations are *far more permissive than they should be* considering the quantity of material that gets through customs (both ways) that is *definitely* not being properly treated, but the CFIA (and US and EU and etc equivalents) and everybody else are very permissive whenever they can justify erring on the side of giving the benefit of the doubt to the public, for the sake of ensuring minimum proturbence to international trade and economic productivity. They only step in and destroy material when the obvious, preexisting, and universally applicable laws and regulations in question have been entirely ignored (such as when somebody thinks "I slapped a piece of paper on that says what this is" qualifies as certification). They will only destroy properly labelled, certified, and checked materials if they have reason to suspect contamination (or whatever).
Narcotics aren't particularly relevant, in comparison.
I switched to ultra absorbent broken glass
I made a couple of batches of rock castings with legit Sculptamold but I found the rocks' surface to be very hairy. I must have screwed something up with my ratio; went back to lightweight hydrocal which has never been a problem. Granted toilet paper (or newspaper, or shredded paper egg cartons) and plaster of Paris is cheaper, but worried I might end up with hairy rocks again. This stuff does work great for general ground cover though!
This is really cool, but DUDE! That paper mâché stuff? Don’t throw that out, never waste materials if you can help it. It may take forever to dry, but the fact that it shrinks when it dries could come in handy for something some day.
Yeah you're definitely right. I shouldn't have said that. I was planning on keeping it around. Several here have suggested mixing in the plaster and using the Culluclay as the lightweight filler.
People are completely mad since Corona
That thumbnail... ('',) We're hoarding it here in Éire..