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  • Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
  • In 1996 Paramount Pictures took a shot at creating another Indiana Jones franchise with The Phantom. Starring Billy Zane as Kit Walker, the latest in the Ghost Who Walks lineage it mashes together action, adventure and romance into a pretty okay package with some wonky internal logic. Thanks for watching our Caravan Of Garbage review!
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  • @mrsundaymovies
    @mrsundaymovies  10 місяців тому +682

    Shang Tsung & 60

    • @thomasbicknell175
      @thomasbicknell175 10 місяців тому +19

      Pin this

    • @travisdk84
      @travisdk84 10 місяців тому +74

      it's too late your nerd cred is irreparably damaged and the comments section is lost. It was a nice run but I imagine the next video will be a ukulele apology before vanishing into obscurity. I will miss you mrsundaymovies, i hope Ben from canada lands on his feet

    • @lachlanb3470
      @lachlanb3470 10 місяців тому

      Nup you're fucked, we all heard it

    • @RD-zx6py
      @RD-zx6py 10 місяців тому +33

      Confusing Shang Tsung for Shao Kahn? You will taste no victory!

    • @sinceremage9
      @sinceremage9 10 місяців тому +5

      This was a helpful video Mr Clement

  • @rileyscherer129
    @rileyscherer129 10 місяців тому +2625

    I think this might be the most Mr. Sunday Movies video ever made. It has weird culturally specific Australian anecdotes, a Ben from Canada interjection, a movie very few people have seen, a TV show from the sci Fi network with a failed pilot, and a defenders of the earth cutaway. It's truly everything I want from the weekly planet gang

    • @xxxtkvxxx
      @xxxtkvxxx 10 місяців тому +123

      Couldve used a cranky knife

    • @KiwyGal
      @KiwyGal 10 місяців тому +46

      @@xxxtkvxxx yeah where was recurring character Cranky knife in this ??

    • @clintmcbride7830
      @clintmcbride7830 10 місяців тому +35

      And he made fun of Mr. PRONOUNS. God watching that jackass get roasted is never gonna get old.

    • @mrdgenerate
      @mrdgenerate 10 місяців тому +11

      confusing Shao Khan and Shang Tsung bothered me. 11:13

    • @clintmcbride7830
      @clintmcbride7830 10 місяців тому +9

      @@mrdgenerate really? He misspoke. Pretty common thing most people do.

  • @alexrpayne
    @alexrpayne 10 місяців тому +614

    James called ‘Shang Tsung’ ‘Shao Khan’, everybody get him! Also Ben’s input is always phenomenal

    • @Stinger420
      @Stinger420 10 місяців тому +12

      I think what he meant to say was 'Motaro.' Heh!

    • @kaybaumann4989
      @kaybaumann4989 10 місяців тому +4

      GET HIM! 😡😤

    • @charleswood123
      @charleswood123 10 місяців тому +4

      Boo this man

    • @TT-md7mm
      @TT-md7mm 10 місяців тому +1

      FR, TWP editors are ALWAYS on point.

    • @Shaqsonville
      @Shaqsonville 10 місяців тому

      That really ruffled my feathers

  • @zurban4313
    @zurban4313 10 місяців тому +306

    I love how they’ve given the editors so much creative control that Ben can just interject in this video to give his take on this movie. I love you Ben ❤

  • @JosephDickersonUX
    @JosephDickersonUX 10 місяців тому +89

    Met Billy Zane at a con earlier this year and had to talk to him about The Phantom, specifically working with Patrick McGoohan in one of his last films. He was incredibly kind and I happily got an autographed Phantom headshot!

    • @farticusmaximusOG
      @farticusmaximusOG 10 місяців тому

      Should have asked him about "I woke up early the day I died" 😂

    • @sanguillotine
      @sanguillotine 3 місяці тому +4

      Billy Zane was kind enough to kill my wife in a tragic car accident in Nevada. It was 1999 and I was stone cold sober, I remember because I strongly desired a stout drink. Billy Zane was driving his classic Chevrolet Corvette, you know the one, when you swerved into my lane, seemingly without any reason, and slammed into my car. Now, my pregnant wife of four years was in the passenger seat without a belt on because it was uncomfortable on 5 and half month pregnant belly and this caused her to go flying into Billy Zane’s handsome and muscular arms. He caught her, but not without a price: her life. Using her soul he was able to repair his car. I was baffled by this and altogether shocked. He whispered to me before driving off “I call that ability ‘Blue Harvest’.” I could hardly believe it because I knew Blue Harvest was also the working title used for George Lucas’s 1977 film Star Wars.
      I have forgiven Billy Zane though because he’s too handsome for me not to.

  • @benmeier5199
    @benmeier5199 10 місяців тому +528

    I LOVE when Ben gets to interject and throw in his own 2 cents on something. Go editors!

    • @thebalzan9475
      @thebalzan9475 10 місяців тому +24

      He's completely right though, the Phantom is awesome.

    • @stephenocalla3708
      @stephenocalla3708 10 місяців тому +18

      Ben interjecting as Voice of God is always a fun tangent

    • @mosquitopyjamas9048
      @mosquitopyjamas9048 10 місяців тому +1

      A bengend…. A leBend? Ledgben? Yea legend ben

    • @joshuacarrig9370
      @joshuacarrig9370 10 місяців тому +18

      Its such a great tonal shift from fun, ridiculous but informative goofs to like a serious film-critique video essay.

    • @arsarma1808
      @arsarma1808 10 місяців тому +1

      @@stephenocalla3708I like it when they don't ben and you just get a shot of him squinting at the camera.

  • @basilciccone1679
    @basilciccone1679 10 місяців тому +187

    James podcasting shirtless becomes way more funny when you consider the fact that the only person who would see would be Mason

    • @egodreas
      @egodreas 10 місяців тому +23

      I just assumed they were both naked. Why wear clothes when you don't have to? I'm not.

    • @Hotrodimusprime
      @Hotrodimusprime 10 місяців тому +2

      Love that you added a lil heal versus baby face in the vid . Sometimes he can be a bit much, but can only appreciate the inclusion.

  • @theethanharvey
    @theethanharvey 10 місяців тому +386

    Ben the editor killed it with his explanation. Great work!

    • @steverogers7601
      @steverogers7601 10 місяців тому +1

      the sarcams was off the charts!

    • @StudioInkblot
      @StudioInkblot 10 місяців тому +31

      ​@@steverogers7601he was being very genuine

    • @ofidiotabagista5259
      @ofidiotabagista5259 10 місяців тому

      Ben the editor should become the show host and leave the show hosts to edit sometimes.

    • @PedroJNolastcallssII
      @PedroJNolastcallssII 10 місяців тому +5

      I agree he nailed it !!!

    • @Aileil
      @Aileil 7 місяців тому

      That was a beautiful interjection.

  • @NotSoFinalProductions
    @NotSoFinalProductions 10 місяців тому +41

    The Phantom is also hugely popular in Papua New Guineau, where he's a cultural icon promoting everything from safe sex to literacy after his introduction to the country in the early 1940s, to the point he adorned warriors' shields in the 1970s-1980s Civil War.

  • @groovymovies390
    @groovymovies390 10 місяців тому +151

    We need more Caravan of Garbage episodes that include very specific explanations of Australian cultural stuff - like show bags. I hadn't thought of show bags in years, and hearing Mason talk about them in this was absolutely glorious.

    • @jamjamcamjam
      @jamjamcamjam 10 місяців тому +2

      we need a sequel to the famous Souvlaki Hut commercial rant episode

    • @RictusHolloweye
      @RictusHolloweye 10 місяців тому +2

      In Brisbane we have the Royal Queensland Show, which we call the Ekka, and the showbags were my favourite part.
      Twelve-year-old me got the Nightmare On Elm Street showbag... and I still have the plastic glove that was in it!

    • @anaussie213
      @anaussie213 9 місяців тому

      All ripoffs of the (Sydney) royal Easter show. The original and the best.

  • @thomasmann2929
    @thomasmann2929 10 місяців тому +191

    I really feel like Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow should be a part of this pulpy series!

    • @barryallen2569
      @barryallen2569 10 місяців тому +17

      'Sky Captain' and "The Spirit" definitely made me know it when I saw it, and I feel would make wild, classic episodes 😂

    • @Dilemina
      @Dilemina 10 місяців тому +4

      All of these movies are better than The Spirit

    • @jamesoblivion
      @jamesoblivion 10 місяців тому +2

      Tommy guns?

    • @coreyroberson4550
      @coreyroberson4550 10 місяців тому

      @@Dilemina "Come on. Toilets are ALWAYS funny!" That movie really was terrible.

    • @Teamo86
      @Teamo86 10 місяців тому

      Agreed

  • @5uper8eedle
    @5uper8eedle 10 місяців тому +96

    Just that bit of James and Mason improving the villains dialogue over the same second of footage looped, had me in stitches. Nice job Ben

  • @mistermastermind528
    @mistermastermind528 10 місяців тому +127

    Ben's interjection comments is exactly why I enjoy this movie despite the criticisms. Billy Zane's performance is really good, he's eloquent, and has a presence. I like that it's a period film and you feel it straight away as well as the adventurous nature of it.

    • @SeasideDetective2
      @SeasideDetective2 10 місяців тому +5

      The supporting cast is very good too. Treat Williams makes an excellent villain, and I also appreciate the fact they got James Remar for this. Remar is one of the great B-movie actors, and really underrated.

    • @mistermastermind528
      @mistermastermind528 8 місяців тому

      @@SeasideDetective2 Treat Williams is always a...treat. He is sorely missed. And yes, I enjoy the rest of the cast also.

  • @Top_Hat_Walrus
    @Top_Hat_Walrus 10 місяців тому +240

    As a Swede I have to tell you Australians that we Swedes have also claimed Fantomen (The Phantom) as our own. We have surströmming canisters ready to be deployed in Melbourne, Sidney and Adelaide. You have been warned.

    • @thebalzan9475
      @thebalzan9475 10 місяців тому +6

      Yeah but we have Frew comics who have the longest running print run of the Phantom (that includes some reprints of Fantotem)

    • @dylanmahaffey8920
      @dylanmahaffey8920 10 місяців тому

      Can't believe Australia and Sweden are going to war over the Phantom.

    • @Top_Hat_Walrus
      @Top_Hat_Walrus 10 місяців тому +17

      @@thebalzan9475 that may be true but did you ever have Fantomenläsk (The Phantom Soda)? Didn’t think so!

    • @didrikschubertsson8673
      @didrikschubertsson8673 10 місяців тому +7

      ​@@thebalzan9475 We had him as a mascot for one of our zoos! Also we made him blue which works so much better 😁

    • @didrikschubertsson8673
      @didrikschubertsson8673 10 місяців тому +3

      Damn straight he's ours! Fantomen Krönika here we go!

  • @DeckWizard84
    @DeckWizard84 10 місяців тому +59

    Bruce Campbell wrote about his experience trying to get this role in his autobiography. He said that was when he realized he was never going to me a major movie star. He was told through the whole casting process that he was a shoe-in and that they were screentesting Billy Zane as a formality. Then he didn't get the part.

    • @GamesFromSpace
      @GamesFromSpace 10 місяців тому +7

      That would have been a MUCH better movie.

    • @kamdan2011
      @kamdan2011 10 місяців тому +1

      Especially when Joe Dante was supposed to direct.

    • @SmallSpoonBrigade
      @SmallSpoonBrigade 10 місяців тому +1

      @@GamesFromSpace I liked the movie, but Bruce would have nailed it. This wasn't that long after Brisco County Jr.

    • @simonmandrakejones
      @simonmandrakejones 10 місяців тому

      ​@@kamdan2011 Joe Dante and Bruce Campbell would have been awesome.

    • @kamdan2011
      @kamdan2011 10 місяців тому

      @@simonmandrakejones I think the boys here got it wrong when they said Sam Rami was slated to direct this.

  • @Oliroller
    @Oliroller 10 місяців тому +51

    The Phantom comic was huge in Sweden. There was sweets, sodas and milk branded with the phantom. And the comics also collected stories from Mandrake, Tom Strong, Linda and Valentine and Jerome K Blanche.

    • @jensaversjo316
      @jensaversjo316 10 місяців тому +7

      And they're still releasing new comics up to this day here in Sweden. (We also had a Phantom amusement park)

    • @Hablagrabla
      @Hablagrabla 10 місяців тому +1

      @@jensaversjo316 Shame it's gone... I remember being a young boy and "dared" to talk to the Phantom. Felt like a big boy then.

    • @Shadowunderrock
      @Shadowunderrock 9 місяців тому

      Came here to say this. Also laughted a little when they said autralians likes him because of stockholms syndrome.
      also: stockholm syndrome is not a thing, the hostages in stockholm took the bankrobbers side because the police was shooting at both of them.

    • @vanyadolly
      @vanyadolly 8 місяців тому +2

      I'm Finnish, but the Phantom was such a huge part of my childhood! Unironically just a fantastic comic

    • @Aivottaja
      @Aivottaja 6 місяців тому +2

      It was huge and still is well known in Finland as well. I just recently bought some Phantom beer.

  • @pendantblade6361
    @pendantblade6361 10 місяців тому +11

    Ben dropping the essay to defend the pulp era hero writing was the best part of this video.

  • @jasonstark5575
    @jasonstark5575 10 місяців тому +214

    To Ben the Editor: your role for these videos is priceless. Your brilliant video clip references and choices and timing make the comedy of these videos a complete package. You are more than an editor. In my mind you are a producer, and I credit you as such. Thank you!

    • @clintmcbride7830
      @clintmcbride7830 10 місяців тому +11

      This channel wouldn't be what it is without the editors. It would still be great, but that bit that elevates it beyond greatness would be missing. Truly masters of their craft.
      Would be cool to hear more from Ben and Lawrence directly in the future.

    • @sinceremage9
      @sinceremage9 10 місяців тому

      ^^

    • @AvoidAvoid
      @AvoidAvoid 10 місяців тому +2

      ben was amazing here. per usual. ben 4ever

    • @T0asty-
      @T0asty- 10 місяців тому +4

      The editing of this channel is a big reason why I stick around. The references and gestures Ben puts in, plus IN context, often WITH the actors of the movie?
      absolute masterclass.

    • @Jillbles
      @Jillbles 10 місяців тому

      Yep, facts.
      Generally, I'm not super into podcasts; it's the editors making these into visual media that brought me in & keep me here every week. Good job, editors!
      (And, OK, also James & Maso 😆)

  • @AverageDrafter
    @AverageDrafter 10 місяців тому +40

    I just imagine Billy Zane seeing Ben's interjection and thinking "See? This guy gets it!'

  • @arthur.m2528
    @arthur.m2528 10 місяців тому +72

    Not even 2 minutes and we're already going deep into Aussielore, it's a certified banger

    • @hamshankscps1049
      @hamshankscps1049 10 місяців тому +4

      The more Mr. Sunday I watch, the more I wonder if Australia is actually real.

  • @slightlyaboveaveragebutaverage
    @slightlyaboveaveragebutaverage 10 місяців тому +40

    Billy Zane is perfect in this role. It's a shame that Raimi didn't get to direct it. Would probably be up there with darkman and spiderman.

    • @DavidLLambertmobile
      @DavidLLambertmobile 9 місяців тому +1

      Actor Bruce Campbell of Burn Notice, Evil Dead 🎭 was almost cast as The Phantom. He really wanted the role.

    • @Aivottaja
      @Aivottaja 6 місяців тому

      Agreed. If anything, Zane was perfectly cast.

    • @Aivottaja
      @Aivottaja 6 місяців тому

      @@DavidLLambertmobile As much as I appreciate Campbell, I wonder if he could have done it without coming across like Ash Williams in purple tights.

  • @bigkmoviesandgames
    @bigkmoviesandgames 10 місяців тому +72

    The fact that Billy Zane put on the outfit looked at himself in the mirror and thought "yep, we're making this thing." is hilarious to me.

    • @jollygoodfellow3957
      @jollygoodfellow3957 10 місяців тому +17

      With a body like that, you would.

    • @bigkmoviesandgames
      @bigkmoviesandgames 10 місяців тому +3

      @@jollygoodfellow3957 lol

    • @cl114c0777498d
      @cl114c0777498d 10 місяців тому +10

      @@jollygoodfellow3957 with a body like that, it's an obligation to the world if anything.

    • @braydenroberts8190
      @braydenroberts8190 10 місяців тому +4

      @@cl114c0777498dI imagine he looked at his reflection and had a religious experience.

    • @captaintoyota3171
      @captaintoyota3171 10 місяців тому +1

      Yeah one of few who actually looked pretty much exactly like the comic. I mean they did a 1930s serial film with 90s production value. Its not the real 1930s but its not suppose to be

  • @craigh4691
    @craigh4691 10 місяців тому +26

    I have always unironically loved this movie and I think Ben perfectly articulated why

  • @jakew5115
    @jakew5115 10 місяців тому +7

    Phantom, The Shadow, Flash Gordon, and Rocketeer are all part of what I call Wholesome Heroes Movies.They all just feel good to watch and each hero feels morally upright.

    • @SeasideDetective2
      @SeasideDetective2 10 місяців тому +1

      Superman doesn't count? He's the ultimate in wholesome. And I'd include Batman, too, except for the fact that he killed a few people in the very beginning. But if you're a superhero, don't you have to be, say, the Punisher in order to be "unwholesome?"

    • @DavidLLambertmobile
      @DavidLLambertmobile 9 місяців тому

      I'm 52, I never got how Doc Savage was never remade, newer 1980s 1990s film or TV script. Savage could of had Arnold Schwarzenegger or Dolph Lundgren. In the 2000s maybe The Rock: Dwayne Johnson.

  • @lanagievski1540
    @lanagievski1540 10 місяців тому +83

    As a povo Aussie, I grew up on Phantom comics because I was too poor to afford X-Men or Batman. Phantom was MY GUY. I’ll always rep Phantom hard.

    • @SmallSpoonBrigade
      @SmallSpoonBrigade 10 місяців тому +3

      For many years they ran the Phantom in the newspaper. I had no idea that in some parts of the world that there were comic books made.

    • @mumsageek1883
      @mumsageek1883 10 місяців тому +3

      One year I got an X-men comic in my showbag. Felt like I'd won the lottery! :D

  • @elliot303
    @elliot303 10 місяців тому +144

    As someone who has grown up in Melbourne I am so glad that they have explained the royal Melbourne show to the largely American audiences.

    • @harktheheral
      @harktheheral 10 місяців тому +12

      We have these, too. We call them fairs - county or state-level agricultural festivals that have evolved to have shows and rides and small games and food to a captive audience, who flock to it for the few weeks they're going on, to be sold crap for too much money.
      They're super fun.

    • @jonathanclarke4529
      @jonathanclarke4529 10 місяців тому

      What do you mean by largely American audiences?

    • @TheDudeDiary
      @TheDudeDiary 10 місяців тому +1

      @@jonathanclarke4529😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I mean……..

    • @KeithFraser82
      @KeithFraser82 10 місяців тому +3

      As a Brit, I enjoy learning obscure facts about Australia from this channel.

    • @jonathanclarke4529
      @jonathanclarke4529 10 місяців тому

      @@TheDudeDiary Have you looked into the stats?

  • @alterpanda8988
    @alterpanda8988 10 місяців тому +8

    i love when Ben jumps in either just a reaction shot or him having a whole take expressed like in this video, good job Ben.

  • @hatandbeardmedia5925
    @hatandbeardmedia5925 10 місяців тому +4

    Ben got it 100% correct and the broadness and cheesiness of it is why I love it. It captures that old Hollywood feel and just takes pleasure in being a big ridiculous adventure without trying to make the character anything more than he is. It's refreshing to see a superhero movie that recognises that it doesn't need to try and validate adult fans who feel embarrassment for enjoying childish things by making it dark and gritty or deeply psychological. It's a man in a purple lycra suit with a horse called Hero and a wolf called Devil, who fights crime and lives in a cave shaped like a giant skull - just go with it.

  • @greenisnotacreativecolour
    @greenisnotacreativecolour 10 місяців тому +53

    The Phantom was definitely the most purple character in Defenders of the Earth most of the time. What an icon.

    • @LuisSierra42
      @LuisSierra42 10 місяців тому +4

      I think a Defenders of the Earth would work perfectly as a meta parody in the same vein as 21 Jump Street

    • @dupersuper1938
      @dupersuper1938 10 місяців тому +1

      Now I have that theme song stuck in my head...

    • @spaceghostcqc2137
      @spaceghostcqc2137 10 місяців тому

      @@LuisSierra42 I concur, these are very classic characters that have shown their appeal through multiple reincarnations. Cyberpunk Phantom 2049, 80s glam Flash Gordon, Mandrake the Magician's turn in musical theater...

  • @Stardonis
    @Stardonis 10 місяців тому +81

    Man. The 'Ben From Canada' part was great. It's a well written aside that takes the video to another place. We are lucky for that guy.

  • @medalion1390
    @medalion1390 10 місяців тому +50

    I’ve always liked the fact that, while the Phantom was among the earliest superheroes in comics (predating Superman), he was typically depicted as having no genuine superpowers, and mostly relying on his intelligence and physical skills (which he originally honed in Burma, Kandahar, Vestibular, and Bengal).
    However, early on in its inception, Lee Falk had initially planned for him to have the ability to telepathically control animals, and apparently this was going to be brought into the movie with an early draft involving him manipulating elephants, tigers and even a pod of blue whales during the climax, but this idea was ultimately axed due to budget concerns.
    It was actually because of this that the director ultimately decided to combine “Kandahar” “Vestibular” and “Blue Whale” to derive the movie’s working title of “Blue Harvest” which was coincidentally _also_ the working title for the 1977 film Star Wars.

  • @jamesa120
    @jamesa120 10 місяців тому +12

    My brother and I watched this movie pretty much every week growing up and we loved it. In my late 20s I started watching Dexter with my now wife and I kept telling her how Dexter’s adoptive dad was from The Phantom and all she could say is what the hell is that?? Great review guys!

  • @DerStreifenralf
    @DerStreifenralf 10 місяців тому +19

    Billy Zane opening a door is my new favorit thing. Thanks Ben!
    Stellar editing

  • @uosdwiSrdewoH
    @uosdwiSrdewoH 10 місяців тому +53

    "He was born in 1872 and died in 1932 which makes him 50." Sorry, it makes him how old, James?

    • @mrsundaymovies
      @mrsundaymovies  10 місяців тому +59

      Hey man, I gave up math when I gave up teaching

    • @kosefix
      @kosefix 10 місяців тому +9

      Our gain is appearantly also Australia's children's gain. 😂

    • @SmallSpoonBrigade
      @SmallSpoonBrigade 10 місяців тому +1

      You must have missed 24 years ago when nobody could figure out when the new century actually starts. The years 1900 through 1909 are just how long it took to settle it without the benefit of modern calculators.

    • @marcusberankis8960
      @marcusberankis8960 10 місяців тому +1

      Math is for nerds only

  • @JeffreyDeCristofaro
    @JeffreyDeCristofaro 10 місяців тому +1

    I used to watch the animated Phantom series as a kid on Saturday mornings, and I even remember the TV spots announcing the film coming out, sometimes in between the actual Phantom episodes, but oddly enough it wasn't until my first celebrity crush with Catherine Zeta-Jones at age 13 with The Mask of Zorro back in '98 a few years after The Phantom's release that I was catching up with her previous movies and finally got to see it on VHS. I enjoyed it far more as a kid than I do now as an adult, but I still do enjoy some aspects - Billy Zane, Zeta-Jones (of course), Patrick McGoohan, the 30's pulp feel, practical FX and stunts, the fact he has a wolf named Devil for an pet dog and animal sidekick, and the Danny Newman score (got the soundtrack at home), excerpts from it actually used for the teaser trailer for Mask of Zorro.
    And I actually met Billy Zane himself at Fan-Boy Expo in Knoxville, TN in 2019 - he's a pretty cool character himself, very fun to meet!!! Although some people liked him best as the Phantom, I actually told him that I enjoyed his character in Tales From the Crypt: Demon Knight the best, and he told me that he actually really had a lot of fun playing that role!!! There are those who love actors when they play heroes, but boy those same actors really have a fun time when they let loose playing villains!😊

  • @ThePhantom628
    @ThePhantom628 10 місяців тому +25

    Ben is right! Its a wonderful amazing movie reminiscent of the 30's done in such a fun way. That vagueness was what made it so good Mr. Sunday, you can over analyze as much as you want, but some things in life are unexplainable and that's ok :D To quote dune, "The mystery of life isnt a problem to solve, but a reality to experience.

    • @SeasideDetective2
      @SeasideDetective2 10 місяців тому

      Except for BATMAN RETURNS and DICK TRACY, this is the only movie I can remember seeing and feeling as if I was watching a comic book come to life. It's difficult to perfectly balance the realistic and fantastic components of a live-action pulp fiction adventure, but these films managed to do it.

  • @Cyklopz007
    @Cyklopz007 10 місяців тому +75

    Billy Zane is terrific in everything he's in.
    Dude, Ben, that was awesome btw. Hellz yeah!

  • @JacobRavenglass
    @JacobRavenglass 10 місяців тому +12

    7:26 For some reason, I just love the intentionality that goes into using a Mario coin image with a Sonic ring tone. It's the kind of brief, subversive visual gag that barely takes a quarter of a second, but for me adds so much to the presentation. Ben and/or Laurence, thanks.

  • @ShorePlain
    @ShorePlain 10 місяців тому +8

    As have been pointed out by the walrus below, Fantomen (The Phantom) is ingrained in Swedish comic/pop culture, and his suit is blue with red/black striped trunks, which my ultra-biased mind will claim to be superior to the purple suit.
    All three of you made me really wanna watch this movie, it looks like a really fun time!

  • @Moffen9T
    @Moffen9T 10 місяців тому +27

    Ben's interruption was incredible. Feel free to do more of those!
    Phortuitous caught me entirely off guard.

  • @jamesoblivion
    @jamesoblivion 10 місяців тому +6

    Phantrivia! The Phantom often appears on the ceremonial shields of tribal people in Papua New Guinea, because GIs stationed there during WW2 shared their Phantom comics with the locals, and they adopted the symbolism of the character into their culture.

  • @BillPairaktaridis
    @BillPairaktaridis 10 місяців тому +20

    The obvious throughline for all of these is that they are based on characters that were popular when the execs at the time were kids

  • @Iacedrom54
    @Iacedrom54 7 місяців тому +2

    Imagine being very excited about something called The Phantom and then finding out he doesn't even sing or live in a theater basement. Phantom 2040 was lit though.

  • @jimichanga4760
    @jimichanga4760 10 місяців тому +4

    I remember watching this as a kid and liking it but after hearing James and Maso talk about it I figured it wouldn't be worth going back and watching. Then Ben popped in and made me very interested in giving this movie another viewing. Thanks Ben!

  • @bensneb360
    @bensneb360 10 місяців тому +32

    Billy Zane is great in this movie, the charisma, charm, action start quality, plus not a lot of people can pull off full body purple. I wish they had made more of these, it has a fun Indiana Jones feel.

    • @SmallSpoonBrigade
      @SmallSpoonBrigade 10 місяців тому

      Yep, it's just a fun movie. Sometimes a movie can just be fun without needing anything else. I've always loved these sorts of movies that involve jungles and temples and lore. It's always been a bit of a mystery to me why they haven't done anything else with it.

    • @lisah-p8474
      @lisah-p8474 10 місяців тому

      Always loved Billy Zane and I had forgotten the ridiculous shape he'd gotten into for this movie. He was making those purple briefs WORK. This video (especially editor Ben's interjection) reminded me how fun this movie was and I really wanna go back for a rewatch.

  • @Joshua-xi4bm
    @Joshua-xi4bm 10 місяців тому +13

    James, Mason, thank you for reviewing these movies. There is a disconnect to these movies even when they came out where it's like, 'who actually wants this?" But my Dad was the one who wanted these. The man grew up reading pulp novels and comics and had a real soft spot for these dated comic movies. We weren't close and I didn't know much about him, but after his death, this makes me feel closer to him. Thank you.

  • @timothylewis2527
    @timothylewis2527 10 місяців тому +1

    I remember watching this as a kid and LOVING it. But, I remember watching a Billy Zane interview where he hyped an action scene were The Phantom runs over the roofs of some cars. I was like "That's it?" 🤣

  • @TheManOfTheHourEveryHour
    @TheManOfTheHourEveryHour 10 місяців тому

    I like how the Kniferoscope works like Alien Prequel Facehugger Eggs, in that a completely gullible sap has to insert their entire face into the aforementioned contraption for it to be able to work. Chef's kiss.

  • @kevinintheusa8984
    @kevinintheusa8984 10 місяців тому +28

    I am not ashamed to admit that I saw this movie 8 or 9 times in the theater, I bought the posters (original one-sheets and all others), and I have it on DVD because it is just that awesome. I also love the other movies you mentioned in this catagorie and I would add Doc Savage, the Man of Bronze as another film that just went off the rails but I loved it anyway.

  • @danielpineda7711
    @danielpineda7711 10 місяців тому +62

    Ben, the constant reshowing of the Unbelievable scene was hilarious. I was dying. 😂😂

    • @Peweskimooxy
      @Peweskimooxy 10 місяців тому +2

      Ha! It was quite the cheap jungle trick!

  • @waskerbasket9601
    @waskerbasket9601 10 місяців тому +1

    Everyone should watch these movies before judging. Everyone in the 90s knew these movies weren’t the greatest, but they still bought the VHS because we loved them anyways. For the 90s they were good pulp comic movies

  • @jeynarl
    @jeynarl 10 місяців тому +1

    James and Mason: lol we love the Phantom??
    Ben: actually it’s really good in its own way

  • @That_Bman
    @That_Bman 10 місяців тому +58

    Out of this current run of caravan of garbage, this is the film I’m most familiar with. That was like a walk down memory lane 😂😂😂 incredible work. The Phantom is a 10/10 masterpiece.

    • @dimitreze
      @dimitreze 10 місяців тому +3

      I watched none of these movies

    • @michaelmulligan8527
      @michaelmulligan8527 10 місяців тому +1

      In America, when this movie released, 711 had a huge promo for the movie. Buy 1 slurpee, any size, get a legit, made of metal skull ring for FREE. My friends and I all rode our little 10 speed bikes to the nearest 711, bought a slurpee, put on our rings, saw the movie, threw out our rings and... you know, I don't recall what happened to the slurpees, but either way, this movie is great.

  • @SamuraiAwesome
    @SamuraiAwesome 10 місяців тому +29

    Love this series of "you know it when you see it" films. The Phantom has such a weird amount of cut through in Australia. I feel like it was on free to air TV all the time in the early 2000s.
    Would you guys do one of these on The Mask of Zorro? It sort of fits the mould of "modern adaptation of a pulp hero" except it was successful commercially and critically, although never spawned any sequels.
    The children yearn for Zorro

    • @mattgilbert7347
      @mattgilbert7347 10 місяців тому

      I was just thinking about how The Phantom was on Australian TV like every Sunday night back in the late 90s early 00s

    • @mattgilbert7347
      @mattgilbert7347 10 місяців тому +1

      I thought Zorro had a sequel...damn

    • @acgeewhiz
      @acgeewhiz 10 місяців тому

      There was a sequel to the 1998 Antonio Banderas one, which I assume is the one being referenced. It came out in 2005.
      There’s been like 50 Zorro movies, so there were sequels to loads of them, lol.

    • @gracejefferson4062
      @gracejefferson4062 10 місяців тому

      I love Zorro! Such a fun movie! There is a sequel actually (The Legend of Zorro) but it suffers from the same problem as The Mummy sequel in that the main characters have a precocious kid tagging along 😅

    • @RD-zx6py
      @RD-zx6py 10 місяців тому +1

      I loved the Zorro cartoon as a kid. Down in Old California...

  • @CWargh63
    @CWargh63 10 місяців тому

    I was nattering on about 1973's Doc Savage: Man of Bronze on one of these comment threads earlier, and I've since realized that it may have been the first major motion picture of a comic-book hero in cinema history! Richard Donner's Superman was not until 4 years later.
    I know it was...campy. But it's poster was totally straight up like a cover of one of his paperback books. The most egregious camp was basically added in post, so to speak - the John Phillip Sousa marching band tune with...lyrics added [GRITS TEETH] as the main theme music; the chugga-chugga choo-choooo locomotive sound FX added over his final slow-motion charge at the main antagonist; both could be removed without anyone the wiser and the camp content would be reduced 75% by these cuts alone.
    It was produced by George Pal, not Roger Corman - and I contend it was the first main market studio produced superhero film.
    Not that anyone should watch it. It's too embarrassing.

  • @surlyslur
    @surlyslur 10 місяців тому +3

    Ben's interjection commentary was fantastic. He should chime in more often. And he's right about "The Phantom".
    AND he's the absolute BOSS of video editing, a true champion of rapid visual gags and whatnots

  • @bloocheez3
    @bloocheez3 10 місяців тому +23

    The Phantom has a weird amount of popularity in Scandinavia too apparently.
    I always felt this movie is underappreciated

    • @DISCO_DUCK.
      @DISCO_DUCK. 10 місяців тому +1

      Was big in Ireland too. I loved the futuristic animated show.

    • @alindberg8001
      @alindberg8001 10 місяців тому +1

      Even had a theme park in Sweden!

  • @Jaggith
    @Jaggith 10 місяців тому +16

    Billy Zane has the greatest pose ever as he's "sneaking" up stairs in the pirate layer. Makes me laugh so hard every time.

    • @mybumstudios1989
      @mybumstudios1989 10 місяців тому +4

      "Layer"? Like a cake?

    • @tristan8940
      @tristan8940 10 місяців тому

      ​@@mybumstudios1989Yes. You'd know that if you'd seen the movie, which nobody has.

  • @finonyaj
    @finonyaj 10 місяців тому

    It's so nice to hear other people talk about the weird way The Phantom is actually an Australian icon bc I definitely couldn't have explained it to an outsider fr

  • @certainpovmedia
    @certainpovmedia 10 місяців тому

    I started vibrating with glee when I realized that they were building to a Defenders of the Earth reference. That was a very smooth one that I appreciate very much.

  • @AnnDVine
    @AnnDVine 10 місяців тому +10

    After weeks of listening to the "Defenders of the Earth" sting in the Weekly Planet intro, I am shocked to hear more of the theme song. I also had no idea it was a comic book crossover series. My horizons have expanded far beyond my mortal reckoning and I am scared!

  • @BooksInTheVoid
    @BooksInTheVoid 10 місяців тому +19

    It's always great hearing Ben talk about superheroes, whether old or new. Thanks Ben

  • @KareemHarper
    @KareemHarper 10 місяців тому +4

    I saw this in theaters and it was one of my last VHS purchases before the DVD era. My life is enriched by you two. The Australian culture and history knowledge drop was straight up delicious. Finger licking good.

  • @nakenmil
    @nakenmil 10 місяців тому +3

    You guys should (by which I mean "could") check out the Nordic-specific Phantom comic book stories. The art is often great, and the stories are PHENOMENAL. The story "The Siege of Malta" is one I recommend for example, the artist Kari Leppanen has a great inking style for black and white that really pushes the negative space. Looks gorgeous.

  • @EverythingPSPOfficial
    @EverythingPSPOfficial 10 місяців тому +4

    I am only here to once again DEMAND the RODNEY CUT

  • @RileyHarrisVFX
    @RileyHarrisVFX 10 місяців тому +5

    Is 1872-1932 not 60? I feel like I’m going insane

  • @optimas99
    @optimas99 10 місяців тому +1

    The phantom holds a rather nostalgic connection to my childhood and his books were easily one of the brighter times of my childhood. Now, I was excited to watch the movie and loved it sans all the magic and mysticism.
    However, as your video made its way to the end, I was disappointed by the sheer 'fun making' of the movie by you guys and just then Ben appeared as the savior and said the perfect words.
    Thank you good sir Ben! You single-handedly made my day!

  • @werewolf_inc
    @werewolf_inc 10 місяців тому +1

    Was it just me that noticed this movie would always be on the tv during school holidays?

  • @unmeshl.6708
    @unmeshl.6708 10 місяців тому +19

    In the comic the color of the suit was originally labelled as Royal Blue instead of purple as a joke between the coloring artists which led to the working title of this film being Blue Harvest.

  • @johncliffalvarez6513
    @johncliffalvarez6513 10 місяців тому +20

    Much like The Shadow and The Rocketeer, despite their short comings, all these flicks including The Phantom were the best things I experienced as a kid. They made me fall in love with the Pulp Hero and explore more of them thereafter. I wish these properties were able to reach a trilogy status.

    • @SmallSpoonBrigade
      @SmallSpoonBrigade 10 місяців тому +2

      And just like those other movies, I have mixed feelings about it not getting a reboot.

    • @bsgtrekfan88
      @bsgtrekfan88 10 місяців тому +1

      its also the fact they all have the similiar tone, lighting, and PRACTICAL EFFECTS! I'm 35 so hell yeah we had the best of those kinds of flicks growing up till....the 00's ruined it lol

    • @johncliffalvarez6513
      @johncliffalvarez6513 10 місяців тому

      @@bsgtrekfan88 Lol, agreed. Here’s hoping for a comeback?

    • @johncliffalvarez6513
      @johncliffalvarez6513 10 місяців тому

      @@SmallSpoonBrigade Yeah, that too. But with the right people. A comeback could be possible.

    • @jonfreeman9682
      @jonfreeman9682 10 місяців тому +1

      All classics in the era when CGI was just coming out.

  • @thunderphoenix440
    @thunderphoenix440 10 місяців тому +1

    Thing that always got me about the Phantom is that his skull ring didn't cause a scar, in the old comics he had funky jungle ink on the thing that if he punched you with it you'd have an instant tattoo that would never wash off.

  • @Mr3rdFloor
    @Mr3rdFloor 10 місяців тому +1

    That Ben segment was absolutely phenomenal…like so we’ll explained and thought out. Also, I loved coming to the comments and seeing that EVERYONE agreed.

  • @Zxromance
    @Zxromance 10 місяців тому +5

    I'm surprised they didn't add The Spirit directed by Frank Miller I think that fits the whatever the hell theme that connects these movies

    • @didrikschubertsson8673
      @didrikschubertsson8673 10 місяців тому

      Cause The Spirit is shit mate and not in a fun way.

    • @filmdetective
      @filmdetective 10 місяців тому

      I think there would be too much CGI for this series

  • @snapshot-tom
    @snapshot-tom 10 місяців тому +3

    I feel like Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow should be in this series of Caravan of Garbage

  • @Ironbreeze53
    @Ironbreeze53 10 місяців тому

    The Phanton 2040 from Peter Chung along with Æon Flux & Reign: The Conqueror were awesome. This from that weird point in the 90’s when Billy Zane was in everything leading up to Titanic.

  • @mouseloehr
    @mouseloehr 6 місяців тому

    Me instinctively tensing up anytime when I hear James say 'Defenders of the Earth'

  • @elneedso
    @elneedso 10 місяців тому +11

    I don't know if it's just the nostalgia of seeing this film as a child, probably one of the million times it seemed to run on Channel 10 after the footy, but I gotta agree with Ben. This film is great. Maybe I'm just a sucker for a globetrotting adventure film or perhaps seeing Catherine Zeta Jones in tight black leather awakened something in me as a young boy.

    • @trayner
      @trayner 10 місяців тому

      I too have the same memory of staying up late as a kid to watch this on TV haha

  • @InfinityDude88
    @InfinityDude88 10 місяців тому +3

    Grew up in Melbourne and as a kid I always used to read Phantom comics with my grandfather so I grew quite attached to the character. Even if his stories are incredibly simplistic, I still think Phantom both in comic and movie form is really fun.

    • @SmallSpoonBrigade
      @SmallSpoonBrigade 10 місяців тому +1

      They were, but it was also a comic from the newspaper comics page. Very few comics can get away with being Prince Valiant. Which was apparently also originally published by the same publisher as Phantom.

  • @sammonroe882
    @sammonroe882 10 місяців тому +3

    I saw this in theaters when I was 7.. I remember thinking I liked it but don't remember a single specific scene.. what I do remember is the theater gave out these awesome iron Phantom skull rings that I wore all the time till I lost it.. most satisfaction I ever got from a promotional handout at the movies!

  • @sneakykamon
    @sneakykamon 10 місяців тому +1

    Shout out to Ben for his take. That's how I've felt since seeing the movie as a kid. Out of all of those movies of its kind, and aside from The Rocketeer, there was always something about The Phantom that just felt right in the way it plays out. It doesn't overstay its welcome, though I wish the movie was longer every time I watch it. And it doesn't take itself seriously. The Phantom is just one of those movies that you can just enjoy no matter how paper-thin the plot is.

  • @noaPlant
    @noaPlant 10 місяців тому +3

    I wonder why this Ben from Canada video was posted on this random Australian channel. Weird.

  • @ljholmes2177
    @ljholmes2177 10 місяців тому +20

    I really think at the end of the day, I really just want you to watch sky high because I think you’d enjoy it. THATS RIGHT IM BACK BABY! SKY HIGH FOR CARAVAN OF GARBAGE!!!

    • @SleeepyJohn
      @SleeepyJohn 10 місяців тому +1

      Fucking great call. If we're doing a trio maybe we can do superhero films that aren't marvel/dc/image etc related. Mystery Men and Chronicle also come to mind

  • @literally-just-a-lemon
    @literally-just-a-lemon 10 місяців тому +1

    Guess us Brisbane-heads have been missing out at every year's Ekka, cause I had no idea about The Phantom showbag thing...

  • @steveg7000
    @steveg7000 10 місяців тому +1

    THANK YOU, BEN! Man, it has been exhausting watching this series of reviews of films that are specifically linked by being "pulpy", and yet they're reviewed and critiqued for not having modern sensibilities where the protagonist is suppose to have inner conflict and the plot should stands up to jaded scrutiny. That's your bad faith more than it is a failing of the films, mates. Seriously, how does Raiders or Wizard of Oz hold up if you try to pick apart the characters' motivations or the integrity of the narrative? They don't. They're not self-conscious of the meta. That's their charm. BEN GETS IT.

  • @SpiritLife
    @SpiritLife 10 місяців тому +5

    Been coming in with a *BASED* commentary of his own!!

  • @conorkirbymacguill
    @conorkirbymacguill 10 місяців тому +5

    Ben needs to have more sections of “I have listened to James and Maso in silence for long enough, here is why they’re wrong “ , lovely stuff

    • @TommaKeen
      @TommaKeen 10 місяців тому

      Yeah, just what the world needs - more editorialising. 🙄 Just edit the video mate

  • @WhatIsItAboutThem
    @WhatIsItAboutThem 10 місяців тому

    THE WAY MY JAW DROPPED WHEN THEY SHOW ALL THE GOONS IN THE CAMP AND THE INDIANA JONES JOKE TRULY HIT HOME.

  • @Wyrmwould
    @Wyrmwould 10 місяців тому

    Dream cast for a Superman/Batman crossover movie that never was: Christopher Reeve as Superman, Billy Zane as Lex Luther, Willem Dafoe as The Joker, and Christian Bale as Batman.

  • @heelmoxley365
    @heelmoxley365 10 місяців тому +7

    I hope this series never ends 😂

  • @Ares91k
    @Ares91k 10 місяців тому +3

    Never even realized that the made a movie of this until this series but i absolutely stan the phantom comics. Legit love them. There are some amazing runs in the mid 90's and early 2000's that are sooo good

    • @SmallSpoonBrigade
      @SmallSpoonBrigade 10 місяців тому +1

      I'm not surprised. I saw it a while after it was released, I want to say that I got it on Netflix DVD, but I can't remember. But, it was out and then it pretty much just disappeared. No sequels and I don't remember it being played on TV at all. Just like The Shadow and The Rocketeer, I don't see any particularly good reason for it to just vanish.

  • @oldmate86
    @oldmate86 10 місяців тому

    Biplanes can take off at speeds of 45kmph and horses can run at a max of 80kmph. That plane scene was feasible!

  • @Pdotta1
    @Pdotta1 10 місяців тому +1

    We need a completely straight, dark, Thundercats.

  • @Fatcat1010
    @Fatcat1010 10 місяців тому +3

    I can never get enough of Ben’s takes on unloved movies. I am subscribed to his channel but there’s never enough of his content for my taste

  • @applebyjakoby
    @applebyjakoby 10 місяців тому +3

    Shang Tsung* 11:14

  • @coloneldashing
    @coloneldashing 10 місяців тому

    So glad Ben hopped in to give a fantastically nuanced explanation of the movie.

  • @SuperBananaSalad
    @SuperBananaSalad 10 місяців тому +2

    I must leave a comment only to support Ben as a creator. Love his music, his channel, can tell he puts all of himself into his work, recently binged his vids again and his little interjection feels just like his video essays it was a lovely surprise ben the editor you are a talented man I love you! James give us a “ben the editors thoughts” doesn’t even have to be every movie but you mention his opinion a lot and we love to hear it read these comments brotha

  • @maddieskywalker2881
    @maddieskywalker2881 10 місяців тому +3

    RIP Treat Williams, forgot he was in this, in fact, forgot most of this movie, but what a great successful businessman/insane murderer

    • @JvS1711
      @JvS1711 10 місяців тому

      I hadn't realised he'd passed away!

    • @leeweesquee
      @leeweesquee 10 місяців тому

      ​@@JvS1711vehicle collision I think

  • @victoriaglascock9991
    @victoriaglascock9991 10 місяців тому +4

    I LOVE this movie! the comic book is amazing too!

  • @Silencio223
    @Silencio223 10 місяців тому +1

    I was surprised Ben didn't mention that Joe Dante was originally attached as director, who said he wanted to push it in more of a spoof direction, but the studio insisted on a more serious tone. I wonder if it would have been more successful, even if it wasn't the franchise they were looking for.

  • @Mitsuraga
    @Mitsuraga 10 місяців тому

    Maso's sea plane slogan absolutely cracked me up.