Real Helicopter VS RC Helicopter
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- I attempt to fly a real helicopter and an RC helicopter for the first time.
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@@therealjimmysworlddid not cleater use to on the helicopter,, well where's the turbo 🤪
SELL the helicopter tooo dangerous
Those Flybar heli’s are very easy to fly… inside a large room, with no moving air. But if there’s more than just a little bit of wind, they’re about useless. The gyroscopic function of the flybar is always trying to keep the rotors level. That’s great if all you want to do is Hover. But if you want to travel in a direction other than Up or Down, you need control of Pitch. And that’s difficult to achieve when the flybar is constantly compensating.
So when wind starts to blow you off course, you have to yaw into the wind, and pitch forward as hard as you can. And unfortunately, those types of swashplates just don’t allow for enough pitch authority.
@@calvarycustoms6681 very clear way to tell jimmy He needs to sell It! save the money buy a bell 500 later .come on Jimmy wake up
Yeah, sell it too build a panic room, and live in fear, do that!😅@@lifehealth489
You need a real RC helicopter not a cheap eBay toy.. look up Bert from BK Hobbies down there in Florida. He will walk through a true radio controlled helicopter..
How does he do that, is he a ghost?
lol ..thats wher i just bought my set of theta swash servos from for my strike 7...bert is very reasonably priced
Better yet, get a helicopter simulator.
EBay crap makes for better UA-cam viewing though. Guessing it was intentional.
Yes
Instructor knows his stuff cool calm & a great collective, exhausting first lesson just relax & feel the torque you're going to love this just like Garrett does, well done😊
Hovering was a constant battle for me until I hit 20 hours or so. Not that I was bad at it, but it took a ton of focus and active trying the entire time before that. When flying helicopters, everyone has the same experience: You fight the controls for a bunch of hours and then at some point, it just "clicks*. Like your brain finally creates the nueral pathways required to fly overnight. I went from standard fighting the bird (Robinson R22) around the 20 hour point and then went to fly the next day and suddenly felt like a hovering master. It quite literally happened overnight. It wasn't until after I talked to my CFI about it when he told me yep, that's how it goes, and that's around the normal amount of seat time it takes to happen.
So even if it feels discouraging at times, like maybe you aren't getting the hang of it, just stick with it. It'll click at some point and you'll become one with the machine.
I found the real deal much easier than the RC version specifically because when you're sitting in the aircraft you have positional and directional reference. With RCs it's all over the place depending on which way it's pointed. Also the feedback you get from the controls is a BIG help.
dont forget that carb heat! icing conditions even in the summer has taken a lot of good people to the ground.
Being an Army Aviator, you have a bunch of guys green with envy for your little helicopter. I remember waiting to refuel at Ft Rucker watching all of us new guys bouncing up and down hovering waiting for fuel, as the week went by we all smoothed out.
I always told my new students we were going out to do some hover rodeo. They would understand afterwards 😁
My father spent a year building a RC Cessna 182 in 1974. We had a RC runway close to home. His buddy took it up landed no problem. My father put it in the tree line in 1 minute He laughed rebuilt it. Crashed in again 6 months later in 2 minutes. He said hell at least I'm getting better 😂 what a simple man no anger ever just😊
It seems sometimes, rc planes seek out trees and are drawn to them. From my personal experience.
You should do some rc plane stuff they are really cool
WOW--there is alot to flying one of those things---well done, Jimmy !!!
Nice! Learning to fly is the most dangerous part.
I got to fly an R44 as a part of an introduction to flight training session I received as a gift. It’s crazy how small the inputs are to fly, very slight and small movements! Such a very precise machine!
Great compliment from your CFI, Jimmy.
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I think the RC copter is called a fixed pitch .The real looks like fun I got to fly a simulator but have never flown a real one.
Well done. Jimmy! I am very impressed. After being with instructor 45 minutes. :-))
A friend of mine would fly his remote Helicopter in a hangar on our Army base it was his no wind practice area. 😂
I had a similar experience to Jimmy with a helicopter. I was already a commercial, instrument and multi engine airplane rated pilot. We were doing some major work on our Twin Beech and there was a helicopter at the same location. I took a 15 minute flight in the helicopter. It was one of the most confusing things in aviation that I ever had. None of the flight controls worked the same in the helicopter as it did in an airplane. For example. you push forward on the control stick. The airplane goes down, but the helicopter goes forward. That was the one flight I took in a helicopter. I am glad I had the experience, but did not do any more helicopter flying.
Another great one! I'm impressed with your quick learning....I think you have transitioned quickly from SEL....into complex, multi engine it has really been great to see how safely you have moved and your help transition looks to be just as smooth.... you give the rest of us hope.
Thanks for sharing another great one.... also fun to see your "cameraman" fly the toy better than.... kids can be so aggravating..... lol
there is a second sting there but it's been painted over. because students are flying this it happens all the time the Stinger gets stung quite a few times. hahahehehe
New government regulations will force you to register your RC Aircraft with the FAA and install a beacon so your location can be shown while flying the RC Aircraft but some of us RC folks will not comply 😂
I like how Jimmy is playing with his toy and his wife is just working away.
You need to compare the full size to a 4 channel (full control) helicopter, I've been flying RC Helicopter for about 30 years, & it's much harder, they drift around like crazy.
wow.. THATS CRAZY!
Helicopters. Belt & braces 😮
Definitely the unsafest way to get off the ground. Bet your brain was totally frazzed!
Fab vid though. Great content.
I have 40 hours of rotary time. Long story, but learning to fly straight and level or make turns is easy. It is hovering that will kick your tail rotor. And the pedals are officially anti-torque rotor pedals.
14:51 Also just sayin' it was painted and wrapped when he got it. 😂
yup, they polished a turd to unload that death machine
@@ar15gator 🤣💯
@@ar15gator Seems like one nightmare to the next eh.
1:10 the rc heli is missing a swashplate, likely designed for forward flight only
another nice video
I might have missed something what is up with the 310???
great job jimmy you got this,
this is only the beginning
Suprisingly the first time i flew a helicopter the same thing happened😅
I love how the trim motors are zip-tied in. Is that standard?
Does anyone else get reminded of a dragonfly when they see a helicopter? The cockpit windows look like giant compound eyes, and the tail is skinny.
Perhaps robotics will get to the point where instead of skis, the aircraft will have legs and could land on uneven ground.
I love to come out and fly the 300
hey Jimmy at all three things are just the beginning now you have to look at all the other things there's about 12 things to look at
That sheet metal strap holding the tensioner looks sketch af.
A 350 Cu In engine usually develops 260 HP why is it that you only get 180?
Thats a direct drive with no colective pitch
I've got about 40 mins in one, and only about 5 of hovering.
I'd love to do more as it's in the top 10 best things I've done.
I can fly my flight-sim easily, but the real thing.... I had the same pendulum and oscillation issues. Sure most do as the controls are super-sensitive. Not at all like my Bonanza. Just think where you want to go, and it happens, by magic.
How did you get your hands on Cletus McFarlands helicopter lmao
Omen......... What could go wrong 🤣
Should have bought a 6 channel collective pitch rc helicopter to get the real challenge.
Anyone can fly a 3 channel fixed pitch rc helicopter
A li-ion battery that old probably would need to be replaced to fly that thing.
Edit: never mind. I saw you sorted the battery issue.
Juggling on the unicycle. On a small boat
Set your trims Jimmy
Jimmy, I think yall need to respect those toy helicopters a lot more 😮 those blades can really do some damage.... Nicely done I hovered and turned on my first lesson and yes it gets complicated easy to start swinging like a tier swing .. 😂 I still like fixed wings better... FIXED BECAUSE THE OPPOSITE IS BROKEN 😂 I kid helicopters are cool but to complicated much more maintenance and more money Jimmy...
If we are talking apples to apples, the real machine is much easier to fly than a flybarless non gyro stabilized R/C helicopter. You wouldn’t have a hope in hell of remaining airborne for more than 10 seconds or so if you were to try, say, an old MicroMold 300 without a tail gyro.
Been there done that.
Way to go :D And by the way, flying an RC is way worse than flying the real deal
The rc copter has no engines on it. It has electrical motors. Engines require fuel.
Rest of the video is very good.
Definitely the rc
Rc planes and helicopters are always harder to learn to fly because you are not in the seat.......no sense of feedback from the airframe .....you are on the ground trying to co-ordinate the control movements based on what your eyes are telling you not what you can feel.
You did well !!!
Ill stick to my MD500e in mfs2020
Trees and helicopters ....
The dreaded "dead mans grip" I remember it well back in 1996 when i first learned to fly helicopters, and yes in a similar helicopter, a H269b ( H300 ). I went on to do150 hours for a commercial license, in that same aircraft. Well done jimmy, aweome job in 45 minutes flying, now im looking forward to seeing your first auto-rotation. That's definitely gonna be a popcorn 🍿 moment, for sure 😂
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This is not a r/c helicopter but just a toy for children. It not even has a swash plate. If you want a real comparison then get a real r/c helicopter with collective pitch and all control functions of the real one!
Its called a fly bar RC helicopter .You should probably buy a proper RC helicopter because that thing has no controls or swash plate or servos or anything really but I think you know the type I'm talking about.
No props.... They're rotors.
✌️🙏👍
Did you know that the rotor on the real deal is just a big cooling fan for the pilot? When it stops spinning in the air, the pilot starts to sweat immediately. Ba dum tss.
Also all electric things does not work on electric it is a scam it work on a smoke when it escape the item stop working
I was an instructor at Ft Rucker in many aircraft including the TH-55 (Hughes 300). Great aircraft, fun to fly. If you can fly it you can fly any Helicopter.
You need a collective pitch r/c helicopter
That’s what he has, or it wouldn’t go straight up, Shirley?
@@johnnunn8688 A collective pitch R/C helicopter will have a swashplate to provide the ‘collective’, a fixed pitch doesn’t have a swashplate (this model doesn’t), so it’s fixed pitch. On a fixed pitch heli, height is controlled by the engine throttle.
So fun, recently got a few finally getting somewhat comfortable flying them, honestly don't know if I ever be able to do the crazy tricks some of the people do with them, but at this point I'm happy with the fact that I can actually keep them in the sky without crashing 😂, well sometimes anyway. They are so tricky to fly it boggles my mind watching the pros fly them like they do!
One of my Helicopter instructors once told me that learning to fly a helicopter, is like trying to pull a red hot metal rod out of your arse with bear hands.
Torque pedals Jimmy..
even on a RC helicopter models, usually on the opposite joy stick controls of the remote, you have to ‘counter act’ the high torque on lift off, this is also with real helicopters, when lifting off the ground. And with real helicopters, when you take off, and the revolutions of the main blades is set, with the proper engine revs’, its collective, torque and stabilise with cyclic..
I’m gonna be another one to suggest trying a collective pitch RC helicopter
Best description of rotorcraft flight controls I've ever seen. Learning to hover is a real workout and took me longer that 45 minutes. After watching you I started to tense-up a little. Likely bringing back memories from over 50 years ago in Army flight training. You did great!
This video is the best overall explanation of function and control of all rotorcraft....Wow!
Jimmy is now flying Helicopters, He'll be making more BAD DECISIONS! LOL
Jimmy, I have travelled the world, worked in remote places where few people ever go (Arctic, desserts, jungles, etc) and flown in many different small to large aircraft. Mostly, everywhere I worked, I had to fly in choppers, again small to large and most in between.
Of ALL the very near misses that I experienced, many of which were miracles that I survived, most were in helicopters!
Please take care, I enjoy your channel more than most , because you are such a crazy guy, and I would hate to see you “buy it” in a chopper…….
Jimmy, I taught advanced rotary for a number of years…best advice in a non-pc manner, “hold the cyclic like your gentleman’s sausage! Gentle grip is all you need!’
selling it better too dangerous , holding the cash like grandma in a firm grip is all you need .
glad to finally see some helicopter content!!!!!
i think i might be a little disappointed in the modification made to the toy helo, did you file the appropriate paperwork and have the aircraft inspected by an authorized child ? - i bet you didn't - what could possibly go wrong !! DID !!
respect to you Mr Fixed Wing gone Rotary, the concentration on your face, (might be wind) and 'by jove i think he's got it' - makes me proud - got me thinking of all them young lads in Vietnam
Awesome after that short a time. From what I've seen most people need about 5 hours to start getting the 'feel'. Now go flying in an aircraft, you will be so much smoother.
You are so much better to own that Helicopter Then JH Diesel was. He would have hurt him self. You did a awesome job Jimmy. I started out flying a toy Helicopters . I can fly them so easy. Then I got into drones. I always wanted to fly a airplane a toy one. I would love to learn to fly a real airplane. Its a dream of mine. I am in a wheelchair. I love watching your channel so much.
I see you cut down the offending tree that ate the toy helicopter
My son in law let me drive an excavator, each hand does multiple things and so do the feet. After I started to get the hang of it I realized if I needed to do something I just did it. If I tried to think it through I couldn’t. While I never left the ground it’s got to be a little like what you were doing. Love it.
An excavator doesn’t go down and crash if you screw up, unless you drive it off a cliff!
Very good parallel. A good excavator operator can pick the wallet out of your back pocket!!
I’m a union backhoe/excavator operator for the last 20 years and I took some helicopter lessons. Man is helicopter way harder. But you’re right, I have not thought about how to control the excavator in years. It just happens
You think long...You think wrong.
What is that object above instructors head, in cockpit?
Interesting your neighbourhood does not have fences between/ around the houses...how do you keep pets and kids secure?
Looks like there is space on starboard side for another fuel tank. Great video, thanks!
Nice video! 👍
It was interesting to see the mechanics of the heli in detail.
Also, great job flying it too!👌
Glad you enjoyed it
That guy's a GREAT instructor. They do say flying a Heli is more feel than anything else.
Carpe Diem! !! !!!
I've heard the best instrument to use whilst flying a helicopter is your butt. It's far more about feeling and balance than a fixed wing
Dang, Jimmy. I thought you would be wallowing all over the place, but you pretty much had it down quickly. Bravo!
Jimmy's probably about .. um ... 80kg? The instructor is probably ... um, ... 95kg? Standard fuel 16.9 gal, 46 kg.
So that's in an R22 with a useful load of 181kg, so they must have been about 5kg under gross for the lesson?
Jimmy, you need o get a "hobby grade" RC helicopter with full collective, etc. Good luck with your full scale chopper.
Good instructor, good student. I built & flew rc helis for a few years in the 80s. Full size pilots that tried my rcs always said full size were easier to fly.. Just remember to give respect to those little rotating blades, they can be dangerous as lawnmower blades.
You cannot expect to fly a small classical configuration rc helicopter without a gyro stabilized tail rotor servo. Then you stand behind it and you try to feel the yaw control having put the helicopter on a slippery surface. If you are satisfied, then you try to hover. Skid extensions also help in that stage.
Helicopters like small inputs, Jimmy go look up Vario helicopters they make real big scale helicopters my favourite brand did you sell a gas turbine helicopter RC get your buddy at the race track to teach you how to fly it 😂
Jimmy that was awesome job. I ran a highlead yarder it had 13 levers two foot pedals 3 brakes throttle and a whistle you talked to the crew with signals. The guy who taught me said you get this right you can fly a helicopter it definitely is the ultimate multitasking lol
Great job Jimmy. You are 1 of the two percent that can coordinate all three controls and perform a hover in less than two hrs of training. Big pat on the back to you from me. BobP CFI Helicopter.
Jimmy made me laugh at 5pm on a Friday. Kudos kid never been done before. Former US ARMY UH-60D Blackawk commander WO-3. Love your vids.😢
My flight instructor told me if I wanted to learn to fly a Chopper, you need to forget most of what you have learnt on a fixed wing.
The problem with the RC was you didn't say "Clear Prop"!
Im pilot, i fly both almost 30 years ago and i have to say Rc helis are more difficult to fly
I know why your son flys better than you Jimmy he play video games 😂
Full size is easier....be cause you are inside the ship and can feel and see whats going on. That's how I learned to fly full size. Started with an RC model and survived that...lol. I transferred to helping me fly full scale Bell 206L
Flying rc is also like flying in gale force winds.
The most beautiful helicopter
The Schweitzer helos are really cool!
Amazing teacher / instructor.
I am lucky enough to have flown a 'Twin Squirrel' a couple of times (obviously with my pilot owner beside me). From what I remember flying a helicopter is 'a dance'. You are always making micro adjustments & at no time are you static. But then you feel the rhythem & & it just flows... Boy did I sleep well after those flights...
Good job mastering the real thing. I can imagine the helicopter requires you to forget all you know about flying a plane.
A helicopter IS a plane.
Not really @@johnnunn8688
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@@johnnunn8688 Incorrect. Look up the difference between rotorcraft/rotory-wing aircraft and fixed-wing aircraft. They're both types of aircraft, but different types entirely.
Its because your input seems delayed in a heli. Cyclic is like balancing a marble in the middle of a plate. It rolls one way and you tilt to correct, but the marble (heli) still needs to slow and stop from the preveous input before rolling to your current input.
Try a marble on glass, servos in each corner. That's a cyclic control, without all the other controls mixed in as well.
Full 6 degs of freedom control it's fun and rewarding once mastered. (Power, Lift, Torque, Directional Control (Cyclic)).
Thanks for including is in your first lesson. Ever since them first videos, you Jimmy, have made an immense positive in the world of aviation. Wow!
Jimmy what was those ready to eat meals you were showing some time back. And would like the affiliate link to help
Factor75.com I believe are the ones. Delicious