@@davidjacobs8558 so it’s good and bad. It’s good for speed and scale. Not having the tail like a regular helicopter we are use to makes it a have terrible tail authority. On a speed heli you only use the tail for take off and landing. You don’t need a tail fin because the tail is so high off the ground. It’s a cool design for sure!
@@alishanmao they are, as far as I know the TDS has never done 300kph but very close. The TDR2 has done it on 16s but this one has the power to go even faster.
@@westhobbiesrc8051Most people use a 10s setup for TDS, fastest 10s speed I know of was Holger at 29X kph avg. So far TDR2 has been faster on 10s, too. Always referring to competition results using a camera system.
problem with so much heavy batteries is the 'cog' and then one wonders how much additional power is really been produced due to power to weight ratio....interesting project though. Well done.
@@andyMSH700 having the motor in the back and very long tail it makes up with having both battery’s so close to the main shaft. But you want a nose heavy helicopter with speed flying. You want the nose to drop when checking. Also, it’s only a little heavier than a 14s setup and the power difference is almost double (if it handles all of it.
@@andrewmagee1666 Last video I made was so long ago that I had a sony ccd camera on a linkage tripod on the tail boom connected to a 900mhz transmitter and on the ground I had a MyFlyDream antenna tracker with a patch antenna connected to a Hauppauge PVR and then to a LCD screen (computer monitor). There was so much snow in the image I thank the almighty I still have the bird.
I could see this copter being used in close combat warfare. Slap an fpv camera and a latch to hold grenades. An experienced pilot could have a hay day.
@@dreams2reality410 this would be a extremely expensive combat drone. This heli cost more than most people’s car. Regular drones are better because they are cheap and easy to get. This a rare heli with only 65 ever made.
@@TL_RC so the head has a centrifugal cone and above 1600 RPM the cones spin out and “lock” the head solid. Under 1600 RPM it “unlocks” and allows the head to float. Makes it so there is no vibrations or resident vibrations at lower head speed for spooling up and down with a solid head.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 Thanks for that description, sadly I don’t enough about helicopters to know the difference. I only know of flybar and fixed. Is this similar to a Robinson without flybar but with rotordisk able to tilt? Ps, I have a variable pitch quad (using tail rotors) and have put them into ducts while testing before holding a large scale x22 vtol. Getting direct drive multi blade large heli rotors is proving difficult. (700-900 size)
@westhobbiesrc8051 Hmm, that's weird, your description has two statements. Physical Operation, and Reason. But they are opposite statements. I am not saying the function does not do what it is supposed too, but that sounds strange. Maybe it's would be useful of you only wish to alter rotor speed at a specific pitch. That could potentially work well for high speed. I have never heard of that terminology or that type of mechanism in model helis, however, Hanselit are very fast!
Having a goosky s2 and seeing the power that helicopter can put out with a little 7.5mah 3s battery, 16s just sounds crazy to me! Can't wait to see what it will actually do!😮
Thank you! So went 16s for a few reasons, one of course is powerrrr! 20k watts (if the gears hold it) two is amp draw, higher voltage is less amps and more power. Three is because I’ve never seen a TDS on 16s! lol
Hi Jeff, if you wanna pronounce "Henseleit" the right way, just say "light" for the last syllable. The first part is already OK in your articulation. 👍😊
@@JeromeDemers there is no auto pilot, all manual control. Head is a locking head by centrifugal cones that spin out over 1600 RPM. Air speed sensor measures air speed. How fast it’s going.
@ GPS is great for speed but unfortunately these helis are full carbon and the GPS will not pass through the carbon gap it would have to go on the out side but that disrupts airflow and risk of it coming off. Pitot tube is true airspeed and not ground speed, just anther way to do it.
I strongly feel that the US Military should employ an entire fleet of heli-pilots, if not simply for surveillance purposes. You'd hear this thing come in and 100 guys would be spraying the sky with lead and they'd have almost zero chance of making a lock on it.
I know we have drones(quads/fixed wing, etc), but are they specifically using RC Helicopters for anything? It would be pretty funny to watch the response to one of these in the field.
most RC helis are within visual range control, but military drones are FPV. skills are not interchangeable. it's like a regular plane pilot would not be a good RC pilot and vice versa. different set of skills.
@@josephpk4878there are several autinomous helos in service already, have been for a while way before ukraine. The Navy comes to mind if you'd like to try this new thing called google, it'll let you just ask a question, like are there unmanned helicopters in the military, and it'll answer it for you.
I've got to admit, I'm a fan of your need for speed. I didn't know this was a thing. When yoiu say the head is locked or unlocked, what does that mean?
@@RobisonRacing68 so on this heli the head floats, there is a centrifugal cone inside the head block. Above 1600 RPM the cone slings out and “locks” the head solid. Under 1600 RPM the cone goes in and allows the head to float and no vibrations with a solid head at low RPM.
The local flying clubs here are starting to separate helis and fixed wing. Helis are just too loud, dangerous, they regularly crash, batteries ripped open from crashes, blades flying at high speed goodness knows where after crashes, etc etc etc. Each to her/his own so I suppose. I tried to explain to this crowd and just received a rather cool reaction. They are allowed so they get to play and the others basically have to leave.
You club folk ruin everything and most members actually suck at flying whether fixed wing or rotor !! Go figure and you guys have access to a sanctioned field and still can’t get right !! Smh but worry about other peoples toys go back in the house and stay there !
"It's not even struggling" No, but it would seem the battery is. I think I heard that the battery has gone down 40% since take-off in just that short time up to that point. If that's the case I'm glad I never got one. As expensive as those things are only to get a few minutes out of it??? NOPE HARD PASS
@@HannTheftAudio with speed flying you don’t care about flight time lol 2 minutes is all you get/want. When pulling 350 plus amps the whole flight, yeah… the flight time is short lol
We have next Year the world Championship in RC Heli Speed in Germany, your welcome 😊
@@verfurthgmbh6437 I really hope to make it to Germany for 2025 World Cup!
OMG this thing is a beast! So cool. You've done it again my friend.
@@smaze1782 I can’t wait to get more flights and turn it all the way up!
Beautiful machine - Keep us posted on how those batteries perform
@@MAD4HELI oh these battery’s are perfect! 400 amps and almost no sag! Love them
THIS! Excellent idea!
It definitely seems like a great idea! lol
I like how the tail rotor is placed higher up in this model.
hope more manufacturers implement this type of tail on their RC helis.
@@davidjacobs8558 so it’s good and bad. It’s good for speed and scale. Not having the tail like a regular helicopter we are use to makes it a have terrible tail authority. On a speed heli you only use the tail for take off and landing. You don’t need a tail fin because the tail is so high off the ground. It’s a cool design for sure!
Awesome, Jeff!! Can't wait to see it wide open!
thats what she said
These are really fast helis. I think the company has done a 300km/h flight long ago
@@alishanmao they are, as far as I know the TDS has never done 300kph but very close. The TDR2 has done it on 16s but this one has the power to go even faster.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 Well then you must fly it like you stole it buddy and we can see the real speed
@@westhobbiesrc8051TDR2 has done 300+ frequently also on 15s, 14s, and even 10s on very rare occasions.
@@westhobbiesrc8051Most people use a 10s setup for TDS, fastest 10s speed I know of was Holger at 29X kph avg. So far TDR2 has been faster on 10s, too. Always referring to competition results using a camera system.
problem with so much heavy batteries is the 'cog' and then one wonders how much additional power is really been produced due to power to weight ratio....interesting project though. Well done.
@@andyMSH700 having the motor in the back and very long tail it makes up with having both battery’s so close to the main shaft. But you want a nose heavy helicopter with speed flying. You want the nose to drop when checking. Also, it’s only a little heavier than a 14s setup and the power difference is almost double (if it handles all of it.
Nice flying Jeff, you definitely got this speed flying nailed, Great job 👍👍👍
@@allanbassett-v1j Thank you! I’ve been putting in countless hours of fight time and tuning, ideas and builds to get here! I appreciate it!
I miss doing this so much.. My Raptor 90 converted to gas is right there 2m from me and hasn't been outside for 10+ years
well go fly it!
Everyday you don't fly, P. Diddy wins.
If you make a chopper video I will watch! 🤔😉😁
@@andrewmagee1666 Last video I made was so long ago that I had a sony ccd camera on a linkage tripod on the tail boom connected to a 900mhz transmitter and on the ground I had a MyFlyDream antenna tracker with a patch antenna connected to a Hauppauge PVR and then to a LCD screen (computer monitor). There was so much snow in the image I thank the almighty I still have the bird.
Do it!
Thing looks like it's put for blood! Amazing work
Thank you! Let’s see if our Idea works! It should be very very fast.
What a great helicopter! I wish I could afford the blade hubs on it…
@@backpages1 it really is! Definitely not a cheap helicopter by any means but a monster!
Cool cop ter
Super cool
@@cbr1thou Thank you! Next time out I’ll add more power and get a good 170mph pass and see how it does then add all the power!
Heck of a amps to noise converter.
@@patrickradcliffe3837 and this is low low power! lol
@westhobbiesrc8051 well, the way the power was counting down on 8s packs, that's a lot of amps making noise. Almost scary fast on that slim profile.
@ it’s 16s total, around 20k watts on full power. This flight was only 6k watts!
Some say the rotor is still spinning
@@Maxim.Teleguz we will never know!
Looking good man
Thanks buddy! I’m working on your crashed one now. Getting everything together to start the rebuild. Going 14s on that one.
Wow!Awesome!
I could see this copter being used in close combat warfare. Slap an fpv camera and a latch to hold grenades. An experienced pilot could have a hay day.
@@dreams2reality410 this would be a extremely expensive combat drone. This heli cost more than most people’s car. Regular drones are better because they are cheap and easy to get. This a rare heli with only 65 ever made.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 how much it cost?
Very cool looking machine and can't wait to see it ripping at full speed. What do you mean when you say "the head is unlocked"?
@@TL_RC so the head has a centrifugal cone and above 1600 RPM the cones spin out and “lock” the head solid. Under 1600 RPM it “unlocks” and allows the head to float. Makes it so there is no vibrations or resident vibrations at lower head speed for spooling up and down with a solid head.
@@westhobbiesrc8051
Thanks for that description, sadly I don’t enough about helicopters to know the difference.
I only know of flybar and fixed.
Is this similar to a Robinson without flybar but with rotordisk able to tilt?
Ps, I have a variable pitch quad (using tail rotors) and have put them into ducts while testing before holding a large scale x22 vtol.
Getting direct drive multi blade large heli rotors is proving difficult. (700-900 size)
@westhobbiesrc8051 Hmm, that's weird, your description has two statements. Physical Operation, and Reason. But they are opposite statements.
I am not saying the function does not do what it is supposed too, but that sounds strange.
Maybe it's would be useful of you only wish to alter rotor speed at a specific pitch. That could potentially work well for high speed.
I have never heard of that terminology or that type of mechanism in model helis, however, Hanselit are very fast!
Jeff nice fast helicopter 🚁 now on 16s power, almost can’t believe that you took it easy on it. 🤣👏🏻👏🏻
Having a goosky s2 and seeing the power that helicopter can put out with a little 7.5mah 3s battery, 16s just sounds crazy to me! Can't wait to see what it will actually do!😮
Awesome looking heli and I can’t wait to see that thing rip through the air at top speed
Thank you! So went 16s for a few reasons, one of course is powerrrr! 20k watts (if the gears hold it) two is amp draw, higher voltage is less amps and more power. Three is because I’ve never seen a TDS on 16s! lol
It’s a beautiful Heli! I can’t wait to see what it will do. It did 161mph on 10s at 7,000 watts. We have 20k watts now.
It looks, formidable!😮
@@twooldcampersandadog8169 it’s a beast!
What a machine ❤
@@laxonetrc it really is!
Insanity my man, let er rip.
Definitely going to! Got to see how it handles 10-13k watts first! lol
Awesome machine. what was that flutter sound at 2:47? One of my newest helis does it sometimes and can't figure it out
It really is! Wish they still made them. It’s the canopy flapping at the bottom. I normally tape it and I forgot my tape.
Eats batteries big time! 🤙
@@TAllyn-qr3io at full power the flight time is 2 minutes from take off to landing.
Nice. Very nice. Don't need no jets to turn that into air wolf. Yeah I know I'm old.
Good gawd man that’s crazy
All the powererrrr
Hi Jeff, if you wanna pronounce "Henseleit" the right way, just say "light" for the last syllable. The first part is already OK in your articulation. 👍😊
TomAtoes TomAHtoes they both work
That controller is from the future
what does the air speed sensor do on RC heli? you said "head is unlock" in video, so I assume there is auto pilot that read data from air sensor.
@@JeromeDemers there is no auto pilot, all manual control. Head is a locking head by centrifugal cones that spin out over 1600 RPM. Air speed sensor measures air speed. How fast it’s going.
@ ah thanks! So no GPS for speed! I guest this is much more accurate then other people using GPS on drones and RC cars.
@ GPS is great for speed but unfortunately these helis are full carbon and the GPS will not pass through the carbon gap it would have to go on the out side but that disrupts airflow and risk of it coming off. Pitot tube is true airspeed and not ground speed, just anther way to do it.
Very nice. 👍
How does that work if you for some reason you need to do auto-rotation without the tail rotor being driven. (Near end of video w/ spool down)
@@daviddillon6794 you don’t, in the case of a auto it’s a glided auto but no tail authority so you’re landing like an airplane.
Man that battery drains fast.
@@superskullmaster that’s nothing! This was almost 4 minutes of flight time, at full power it will be around 1:30 flight time.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 yikes
add a fpv cam and a bb 🔫
Holy cow.
Need all the powerrrr!!
Dont crash it with 2 lipos in the nose😂
@@Sir_Dookie any speed heli/plane that goes in there is nothing left.
How do you charge 8s?
@@owntor1 I have a few different chargers but my main is a ISDT p30 which is a 8s capable charger.
How nice it is to be able to make a Helly copter like that... How much money in creation
You're crazy! Insanely crazy! But, that's ok😂👍😁
I would imagine it would be the belt drive that would give out first. It would have to be mega tight not to strip the teeth!
@@richardmiddleton7770 I’m actually not worried about the belt. More worried about the plastic gear. Belts are fine at 20k watts on my comet.
I strongly feel that the US Military should employ an entire fleet of heli-pilots, if not simply for surveillance purposes. You'd hear this thing come in and 100 guys would be spraying the sky with lead and they'd have almost zero chance of making a lock on it.
How do you know we aren’t doing this.
I know we have drones(quads/fixed wing, etc), but are they specifically using RC Helicopters for anything? It would be pretty funny to watch the response to one of these in the field.
most RC helis are within visual range control, but military drones are FPV.
skills are not interchangeable.
it's like a regular plane pilot would not be a good RC pilot and vice versa.
different set of skills.
@@josephpk4878there are several autinomous helos in service already, have been for a while way before ukraine. The Navy comes to mind if you'd like to try this new thing called google, it'll let you just ask a question, like are there unmanned helicopters in the military, and it'll answer it for you.
Wow how Nose heavy is it
Pretty nose heavy but that’s what we want for speed!
how long will this fly if you take it easy?
@@Buy-n-large at this power level probably 6-8 minutes. Turned all the way up around 2 minutes.
I've got to admit, I'm a fan of your need for speed. I didn't know this was a thing. When yoiu say the head is locked or unlocked, what does that mean?
@@RobisonRacing68 so on this heli the head floats, there is a centrifugal cone inside the head block. Above 1600 RPM the cone slings out and “locks” the head solid. Under 1600 RPM the cone goes in and allows the head to float and no vibrations with a solid head at low RPM.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 ohhhh like a centrifugal clutch! Interesting!
Gyro stabilizer, yaw control.
Holy cow that is so stupid. And I love it.
The battery runs down so fast
@@Noneyurbusiness oh that’s nothing! Under full power flight time is about 2 minutes from take off to landing.
Is it gonna be fast?
@@jacksonmarshallkramer5087 very fast!
16s?!
@@FB0102 yes! 16s
You know the big thing at the moment is mini drone warfare…….is this not much faster than a small attack drone ?
@@ykdickybill this helicopter will do over 200mph.
Is there an electric smoke system???
@@jerrodbeck1799 no…. Only if the something burns up lol
My Drone has 6s now Yo!
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Ughm... hold my beer :>
How top speed????
Looks like its 50% battery
@@duyle7031 yes there is still power left
my god :0
The local flying clubs here are starting to separate helis and fixed wing. Helis are just too loud, dangerous, they regularly crash, batteries ripped open from crashes, blades flying at high speed goodness knows where after crashes, etc etc etc. Each to her/his own so I suppose. I tried to explain to this crowd and just received a rather cool reaction. They are allowed so they get to play and the others basically have to leave.
Heli dudes suck fr, wish my field would do something about them
Less noisy than a quad, legit. Get over yourself.
You club folk ruin everything and most members actually suck at flying whether fixed wing or rotor !! Go figure and you guys have access to a sanctioned field and still can’t get right !! Smh but worry about other peoples toys go back in the house and stay there !
Damn, 150 kph without trying? That's fast even for planes
@@Zoey_the_Rat it is! This setup will do 200mph no problem! I was only running low head speed and 4-5 degrees of pitch.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 what kind of aerodynamic sorcery makes it this far?
@ lots of power! lol
don't forget to build a female companion for your monster before it gains sentience and -1 life you by chasing you to the edge of our flat earth.
"It's not even struggling" No, but it would seem the battery is. I think I heard that the battery has gone down 40% since take-off in just that short time up to that point.
If that's the case I'm glad I never got one. As expensive as those things are only to get a few minutes out of it??? NOPE HARD PASS
@@HannTheftAudio with speed flying you don’t care about flight time lol 2 minutes is all you get/want. When pulling 350 plus amps the whole flight, yeah… the flight time is short lol
16S?,, What is that like a 150KV motor? Dang!!!!!
@@garrykennedy5484 yes 16s, no it’s a lot higher then that lol
lol
Good god, 16s !!. Monster is understatement.. man that heli is sexy. 🫡