(1682) Review: 3D Metal Printed TSA Master Keys
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- Опубліковано 20 сер 2024
- In video 1682 we'll try out the brand new3D metal printed Lockmaster Luggage Master Keys that fit all 7 TSAprofiles. You can find these at: www.zieh-fix.c...
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Yep, that is the correct finger most all the time!
yep. one great finger. best finger on your hand, hands down lol
Lol
@@techfreak244 - give that man a hand :)
If I said it once, I said it a thousand times: every TSA 007 lock I have encountered so far can be jiggled open with pretty much anything that fits into its keyway.
My experience confirms the above
Same here ...
the TSA007 lock I have feeled like a single pin to pick.
Put in the tenser, find the binding disc, click, open.
See EGEETOUCH.
I'm not sure why they needed all 7 keys, at least 3 of them could have been replaced with a mini Bogota rake.
I can do it with a broken pair of tweezers... And without any experience of lock picking.
Love the choice of finger!
I use it for my phone (LG with back finger print)
Interesting that these needed to be 3d printed. I'm surprised that someone (in china probably) hasn't made a sintered metal mould for them. Also would have expected that traditional CNC machining would have been more cost-effective for a batch run. I'm sure a hobbyist with enough time on their hands could have made most of them with simple hand fitting
Chinese sellers do sell the tsa 005 & 007 for very little money.
It is being sold. Around $10 a key.
@@Zieh-Fix , could you reveal what material stahlstoff (ich sollte meine Frage auf Deutsch anfragen) is used for these keys? What type of tool steel? Do you use the Deutschland made EOS machines?
@@Zieh-Fix The only way that this could SOMEHOW be more economical than CNC milling/laser, is if you ALREADY owned the manufacturing hardware. AND you made them in ridiculously small quantities. Like a dozen sets. Total. Ever.
Did you guys get conned by some 3d printer salesman? Or are do you not have anyone with manufacturing experience/expertise working for you? Your reasons literally don't make sense in the real world.
Also, are you REALLY going to claim that these are direct metal printed? Because if they are, you must have some process that is DECADES better than what is being used right now. You should be trillionares with every major manufacturing company BEGGING to licence your methods.
@@SunnyWu I have both tsa002 and tsa007 out of zinc from a chinese seller for 2-3$ each. And they work very well. They will break if you apply unreasonable force though
Wow 2 videos in one day. Thank you for trying to keep us distracted so we stop thinking about wanting to go out side for at least a few minutes!
Wasn't expecting another video today, and a huge giveaway to boot. You're awesome Bill!
Gerard DeLuca Saturday’s video must have went out early
@@jeffp7368 Hmm, hope that doesn't mean I registered for the weekend giveaway early. That would mean I entered twice this week, and if not and I enter again tomorrow it'll look like I did it twice for next week. I don't want to seem like I'm trying to cheat, I think he disqualifies people for that.
Another reason to get a set of keys like this is hospitality. I work at a hotel and people are constantly losing keys for things. I have a set of handcuff keys, my personal lockpick set and would love a full set of TSA keys. Had to cut one of those TSA locks off of luggage (not difficult but annoying) because the user lost it's key.
Maintenance guy? Ours has a hook, rake and a tensioner in his uniform
one lock i had, had a little indicator next tot he TSA lock, that would turn green if the TSA key was ever used
Amusingly, those indicators do not fire if the TSA keyway is actually picked (other models use a little red marker that pops up)
I've had success opening a variety of the 007 locks just by using an L-rake (City rake) with no tensioner, in the same manner as a jiggler.
I have done the same.
I've done it with a pair of tweezers...
„Securing your cardboard-door with a masterlock no. 3“ made my day 😂
to be fair: the lock does its purpose.
I would rather kick in the cardboard door then get out my lock picks.
lol " the correct finger ". Miss you, Bill!
So far, I have success with the TSA 002 and TSA 007 which are the most common to me in my region anyway. The 007 could be opened with city rake or worm or bogata with a small tensioner most of the time. I found that the 002 is especially vulnerable to a Sparrows worm rake even without a tensioner. Just insert, jiggle and I can turn it in seconds.
Everyone's favorite finger, excellent choice Bill!
I like how they have the locks numbered like there are going to be hundreds of lock styles.
TSA didn't design the 'lock style' mechanisms, they invited existing luggage manufacturers to apply for their existing lock designs to be approved. That's why the TSA004...
The only one they really keep secret is the TSA006 design that is registered to each approved manufacturer.
Bill was showing you guys that I'm #1 in his book. 🙂 Thanks, Bill!
The “ie“ in “Zieh“ is spoken as the “ee“ in “see“.
Zieh-Fix (Zee-Fix). 😉
Well done Bill. I have seen a few videos on these high tech printers. It’s amazing what they can do nowadays. Stay safe
Wendt makes some awesome stuff bill!
I have a handful of #7's. I can pick them all in a few seconds each, using only a Sparrows Shank. Place it in the keyhole against pins, rock it like it were a city rake and apply clockwise tension at same time. Only thing I noticed is most are hard to pick with shackle under tension.
2 videos in a single day!? Very nice little set of keys I'd love to play around with but holy, that translates into a whole lotta Canadian pesos! Great video!
Nice job. A few of those TSAs, the combination locks can be beaten by just holding the shackle and decoding it. I don't consider them an actual lock. I just keep mine at 000, they are really just to keep my boxes from popping open. Great Job, Bill, very interesting.
Whoa, two uploads in a day :)
Great set of keys - very useful
I have a #7 master TSA lock, and I can pick it with a straight knife pick and a tensioner. You don’t have to deal with fancy bitting or anything. It’s like 1 pin that matters for mine. Maybe it’s just defective.
Great review Bill well done keep up the great work/vids. :)
it's really great to see the TSA keys however as A Locksmith i see no point in having them i can pick it with a S rake or cut the lock its so easy no need to spend all that money on keys. if i spent that money on key blanks id make so much more back.
The first, of course, is Security through obscurity. And that is the last.
Wow awesome keys, wish I had some. Thanks Bill keep up the great work!!!!
Those are completely awesome
2 vids in 1 day. The lockdown has hit and Bill is bored already.
TSA 007 may be the most common on the market but I can jiggle them open without any specialised tools - I have a broken pair of tweezers that allows me to open 007. I can't explain why it works but it does.
I’ve got a Abus combination luggage lock that has an indicator so you can see if it was opened with a key. I prefer those over the ones without the indicator.
5:30 if you cant tension the keyway, cant you just tension the "shield"?
Usually yes, but there's a few engineering tricks that can stop that. Doubt any of the lock companies would do it, but still
I think the TSA will simply take the look and throw it in the bag instead of locking the bag back up.
It is faster and easier, so why not? Days are busy.
I think I understand why the TSA keep cutting locks off the baggage that Deviant Ollam takes with him. A lot of those locks being key retaining and quite a few required a lot of wiggling. The TSA probably just don't want to bother with them and find a pair of wire snips a better lock opener.
Thanks. Most of the information was new to me and found it interesting.
What’s up with the 3 downvotes? Are 3 TSA agents pissed off cause you got your hands on those keys?
The product is overly expensive. I mean: If you can get it on "someone else"/company money: Fine. There is real expense, craftsmanship, warranty, service etc. behind it.
But: For the most common key ways, you can get the keys cheap from china. For the less commons keyways: Assume the lock cost 50$ dollars and the key set cost 400$: How many locks with uncommon keyways can you cut, before it becomes economical to buy these keys? (Noting again, that you can get the commons keys on ebay)
also he did not show all keys in use (showing how uncommon those keyways are and thus how over priced the product is in terms of usage value)
Michael Frey None of what you mentioned is Bosnian Bill’s fault. Except not showing that all the keys worked. Even then I think it was enough that he showed the 3D metal printed keys work. The more difficult keys to print were his focus. I think you might have missed the point of the video.
It's nothing to TSA
For the keys that 3D printed plastic snapping was the problem, could you just leave a gap for a regular tensioner? That would take all the twisting stress off the key and it would only be used for raising the pins. It would probably have its own complications, and wouldn't work for some of the designs, but it would be a lot cheaper than these metal ones if you could get it to work.
Awesome. An early bird video. Will wait till tomorrow before entering giveaway. Lol.
Weren't the locks worthless even without a master key?
They are useful against pickpockets. Pickpockets will unzip bags, but they have to be quick and can't jiggle the bag too much as the owner is right there and possibly even wearing it, in the case of backpacks. The security level needed to make a pickpocket's job much harder is pretty low and if you've just come off a flight and are jet lagged, you probably don't want to be digging around for a lock that is overkill for guarding against pickpockets on the way to your hotel or hostel.
@@dbattleaxe true
@@dbattleaxe Anyone with a ballpoint pen or small screwdriver can just pop open the zipper in the middle of it. It does of course show tampering though, while using a key or picking is going to prevent the luggage owner from discovering the theft as quickly.
@@greendryerlint So, instead of a TSA lock I might as well use heavy duty cable ties?
Yeah, the TSA will cut the cable tie open (and so can a pickpocketer), but so will they cut open a lock, if they do not find the keyhole or key within "reasonable time".
@@sarowie Did I say you shouldn't use a TSA lock? If you don't, all you're going to get is your suitcase back with the lock cut off. Maybe a cable tie too would be helpful though. If you find the tie missing but the lock intact, you at least know it wasn't the TSA, as they do leave a note after rifling through your stuff.
YT Channels all signing off "Stay safe" and I'm constantly waiting for the "stay legal" follow up...
Likely it was kept key retaining to not accidentally give away their key, would have loved to see the TSA leave their key on my tsa lock when they searched my bag
TSA rarely relocks the bag, just tosses the TSA opened lock back inside the case.
I've got the same tsa006 lock. I love it.
That's pretty cool. Thanks for sharing
How very rude, flipping the bird at the lock or is that just a quick review of the secondary security access?
well, the tertiary access (wire cutter) is also easy to access.
But honestly: I might as well use a zip tie as tamper seal then a TSA lock.
Sometimes even the TSA uses wire cutters, because they do not find the keyway.
And even if they find the key way, they might trow the lock in the bag instead of locking the bag up.
So really: a tamper seal is better then a lock, especially if the zipper of the bag could be bypassed in an other way.
Can there be another giveaway of this stuff specifically the keys because the prices is outrageous😅
that $400 set of keys is missing the safe skies "torch" key. TSA 007, 002, and safe skies keys are cheaply available on ebay.
Oddly enough, when I printed the keys in my FDM printer, only #7 came out right. Worked great in the 4 locks I tried. They all printed beautifully on my resin printer though.
try to open a TSA007 lock with a jiggler/wave rake. TSA007 tend to open with jiggling.
My TSA007 is also a good lock to learn single pin picking - it feels like only having one binder.
So really: No wonder why a printed key works. A paper clip would be over engineered for the job.
Wow great stuff bill thank you
I remember opening one of these with just a tension wrench 😂
Nice Video .... The TSA-Keys are very small and fragile, why the do not create a key like the ABUS 85/15 or 85/20 ...
€451.24 is a serious money for me. I'll be waiting for the Chinese make the 'cheaper version' and use rake pick to open 002 and 007 meanwhile. LOL!
The quality of German made are exceptional!
I bought a TSA002 and TSA007 for ~$10 (+S/H) on Wish (just for fun). :D
The 002 works fine in a lock I bought in the local hardware store (Haven't tested the 07 yet).
Side note: Haven't also the internal documentation (with nice photos of each key) "leaked"?
I'd just print out the outline on paper, stick on it a sawblade or thick feeler gauge and cut it.
Use the photograps for reference where needed and metal files/sandpaper where precision is needed.
Bada bing bada boom, you've saved €462.91 (minus ±$10 material costs).
You did the finger for the finger print lock...
Bill's that dude!
Correct finger lol I'll change my phone lock to that finger too
Since there are STLs available, wouldnt it be easier and possibly cheaper if one CNC them on a large scale
I would bet its more so the TSA agents don't send their keys away
It seems like casting these would be easy now. One could make models, and cast them out off brass. I know it doesnt sound as sexy as direct metal laser sintering but it would be cheaper. ESP if people were willing to do their own clean up
very nice
I think this is a day early. On the locklab website, it says the giveaway for friday is a set of sparrow dark shift picks.
Expensive keys.
Yes cheaper than $1200 but still very expensive. Come on China, I thought you would have this done by now : )
It has been a while since this video was published. Does anybody know a place to get a full set of keys? The 002 and 007 is easy to find on China sites and such but the rest of the keys not. Not going to pay an arm for a 3D printed set. Figure by now somebody (most likely in China) would be making these by now on "regular" key cut machines - as said 002 and 007 are but the rest seems hard to find for some reason. Most of them are just regular small wafer style keys.
Can you try to 3d print these keys with a strong resin like Hard-Tough from eSun?
I guess I do not get the fuss over some cheap looking locks? I have some lineman's pliers that would cut the cable on any of these :) No expensive 3d printer required :) and I have a 3d printer btw
A strong cable tie would act as a tamper seal.
Those TSA locks do not, because you can get keys for them.
(and you can use any common bypass technique for primary mechanism)
Bill, Bosnianbill.
Wouldn't it be possible to use the same 3d print plans, use a free Linux cad program to design a negative and print a two part mold from hard resin, then use a copper + alluminium alloy to cast the keys from? I'm surprised Adam savage hasn't played around with this idea.
Pretty cool
No 7 can be opened with a friggin plastic toothpick. Both the curved and straight ones work.
Man! A Dolar costing 5R$! 47$ pick kit is costing 215R$! Like REEEEEEAL expensive in my country for something cheap in yours! Can you imagine?
A metal 3D printer can be purchased for the price you paid for the kit you have
you can buy TSA007 from ebay for like $5.
Cool
Each key costs around $10 on eBay from China. Easy enough to get. Not expensive.
My biggest question has to be that if this TSA key information has leaked so badly, why didn't the TSA change the master key standard?
I think the Article even states that they don't care
You're early, Bill. This is saturday's video.
What is a good beginners lock picking set I can buy?
Would CNC be cheaper? Maybe brass or aluminum casting?
Is there a retro fit lock to upgrade an old hard side Samsonite with the standard key to a #6 TSA lock?
I have found cheep keys on eBay for if I remember correctly £20-£30 for a full set they are all metal ones
Wait... is it Saturday already? O_o Leave it to the Germans to make something well engineered at tight tolerances.
Wer can i buy the lagguge key set?
Too expensive, you can find each key for ~7$ on eBay...
@1234coolman I found tsa keys on ebay.com. Chinese vendors...
@1234coolman tsa keys... But they're not always available as it's illegal haha, I think you can find theses keys on aliexpress or banggood.
Is that cheaper than just buying 7 different TSA locks with different keys? It seems like that would be cheaper you would just need to source a set of locks with the best keys...
evilcanofdrpepper Of the TSA locks that come with a key (some are opened by the user by combination or fingerprint), the key you get is unique to your lock. They’re not one of the TSA master keys. You won’t get any of these master keys when you buy a TSA lock.
Would it be possible to transfer the biting of the pin tumbler keys on a wiper insert or a feeler gauge and use that as a key? That could circumvent the breaking plastic problem.
Transfering biting is easy. Any lock smith as a key copy machine that can transfer conventional cuts. Most also have the tools and expirence to transfer dimple cuts.
Give a lock smith the right key, matching lock and a blank and it's not a technical problem.
(You can also transfer conventional cuts via hand filling)
Any mechanical workshop can also make a drawing of a sample and make copies based on the drawing.
Sir. where i purchase it's
These used to be avail on eBay.
I've asked several times before on different sites and scoured the internet and still can't find an answer to what keeps the key pins from falling out? The image at the 1:01 minute mark illustrates why I can't figure this out.
majbach1968 the pins are probably a bit thicker on the other side
did anyone try a resin printer
Is it not cheaper to buy 7 locks,with keys rather then the 7 keys?
@@Zieh-Fix Thx 👍
My mum had one of these that must have come free with a newspaper because it was a super thin cast alloy body and my mum lost the keys, i thought "The hoop(i was young i didn't know locks) looks thin and weak, i could snap it with a wrench". I got a wrench, tightened it up and didn't even get much tension on it, i would have gotten more tension on my finger before i felt pain, the whole cast body just cracked and fell off leaving the only strong part left(the hoop) on the zippers. It was a fabric suitcase with those cheap think zippers so you can imagine how badly made the lock was.
I don't trust these TSA locks at all.
Wait a minute, did he say that they aren't easy to pick?
Is special that I managed to wiggle the zigzag shaped keyway open with an improvised rake?
It was in my in my first month of trying to learn to lockpick.
not all locks are made equal, even TSA approved locks. 007 and 002 are generally the easiest to pick. I don't have much experience with the others
The only real reason to get these master keys is if you are dealing with hundreds of luggage locks a day or if you are being followed by the FBI and need to leave literally zero trace behind
A standard ball pick will open a 007
It's entirely possible to grab the stl files for the keys, and order your own set off a site like shapeways, for example, to get a 3d printed metal key that works. twitter.com/jessthemullet/status/1221998157422182401 I did that for the 006 key, and you can get the 002 & 007 keys off ebay for a few bucks a pop.
This is the latest repository for the printed keys, and these have all been resized and tested to actually work (with a few different handle options). github.com/johnnyxmas/TSA-Travel-Sentry-master-keys It's also possible to use some tougher plastics in the resin printers, which will hold up better than the fdm-style printed keys. I haven't had a chance to play with those yet myself, but I have no doubt you'll get at least a couple uses out of them.
It's "Tsee Fix" ;)
That's got lost wax casting written all over it.
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1 $50 lock, 1 middle finger. Cool.
is there any other company that sells these types of keys.. over $550 for the set is pretty steep.
These are mostly designed for professionals. If the lock isn't to specs they can also be used to overturn the lock.