We are in the Highlands of Scotland and part of our farm is such difficult terrain that you can not even get a tractor onto it. Our goats are how we are going to be getting tools and equipment onto that part of the farm to repair and replace fencing, clear out the silted up streams so they flow properly again and so drain parts of the land to make it useable for sheep to graze. It has been interesting starting their training. I am surprised at how well they will follow and how when they stop it's not to refuse to go, but to assess the situation and work out the best way for them. Your videos are invaluable to us!
@@flock_ness that sounds like a perfect goat job. I'm from Germany, working on a half nomadic sheepfarm. My packgoats are only 9 months old right now, but I'm so exited to use them as well :) We don't necessarily need them, but I will cross Europe with them after school. Do you know what laws I have for England, Scotland and so on? I don't know if I will include it for my long hike, but if it's possible with the laws it would definitely hike Scotland as well
I have been hiking long trails since I was a kid. In my late 29 y had an accident and ever since I can't hike with my heavy load for long, I once almost fall in to a deadly place, so now I see this and gives me hope to continue solo hike safely 🤠, thanks for this great idea.
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I just listened to your episode on the homesteading podcast. This video is truly inspiring. Everytime i see a goat I get giddy and extatic. Thank you fir providing the world with your information.
I am a giant fan and I also raise Alpine goat they are magical creatures for sure! I had to watch all of your videos backwards now I finally make it to episode number one and I'm even more impressed than ever! You are an amazing amazing man and we are all blessed to be able to share and your love for these beautiful creatures! Yesterday I just sold four of my bucklings who are going off from where I live here in the Ozarks to New Mexico to become pack goats! They're going to have a good life! thank you again for all you do and I'll keep watching all your videos!😊❤
I just discovered your channel and I immediately fell in love with it! you had a brilliant idea and the relationship you have with your goats is so beautiful and genuine. your excursions must be magnificent experiences!
Dear from Europe. We've got pack goats way longer. I work on a traditional half nomadic sheepfarm in Germany, so I know some sheepherds that used packgoats. Pretty interesting to see it from an american perspective. And actually the US improved way more in saddles and so on, that's why I need to spread my research to the US. Your webside is actually very helpful, thanks for all the work and passion you're putting into it :) I don't have someone close who still is used to packgoats, but that's not a reason to stop. My goats are 9 months old right now and I want to hike from Croatia to Spain and trought Germany. I'm so excited 😍. (Sorry for every mistakes that possibly are in my writing, English isn't my first language)
@@PackGoatscom Your content about saddles is really helpful, in Germany we only have two saddlers that also do saddles for goats, but only traditional Swiss saddles. Really interesting to see the improvements from the US. I've got only a few questions right now: How realistic is it to get them "street save"? Can they learn to walk on a sidewalk? Like right know they can do it, but because they are living in a flock with >600 sheep and 80 goats, so we are always use dogs to coordinate them on streets so that has nothing to do with the street saveness I need. I have 4 goats right know, but I want to start my journey with only 3. Is 3 enough, I guess it is? Because I can also take a bagback, I just don't wanna pack that pretty much myself and I love goats. Hope it's understandable (thanks to my teacher from secondary school to not give up on my English 😊😂)
Being an amateur radio operator I first saw pack goats from Steve WG0AT. Your channel is just as fun to watch as his. Keep up the wonderful educational content.
Early pioneers in Australia used goats as pack animals to deliver supplies to the far outback stations they help to open up this country along with the camels but little is known in this country about what they did. So I was delighted to see them being used again. I now breed American Alpines in Australia and saw another possibility for them other than dairy
Years ago I spent 9 days and 8 nights packing through Mongolia with locals and their horses. One morning a horse that was all packed up just turned around and ran back home! We were halfway through our trip. Took a few hours for someone to chase him down and bring him back.
This is amazing! I never knew goats would be able to carry weight like that or follow you around without stopping all the time to munch. It's is obvious that folks have definitely been underutilizing them for a long long time
I love the channel and concept. We have a herd of 20 Nigerian Dwarves and while not large they can surely be put to work. I'm getting to know these animals and the more I do the more I love them. They are indeed highly intelligent with distinct personalities. Great channel
Why goats haven't been used for packing until recently is quite beyond me. They would have been quite helpful during the pioneer days. Oh well. We know now...🐐❤️
@@robertsandberg2246 I'm also surprised. In Europe we use them way longer. Nomadic sheepherds and the Swiss stockmans used them sometimes, but because donkeys and cows are also there it never was necessary to use them.
i support whatever he said 100% i have been seeing goats since i was a kid well im muslim so we have been raising goats and my great grand father was a sheperd and my grand father raised goats and now my dad is doing the same thing and even im interested
I have seen old references to goats as light draft animals, hauling sleds and even carts, so why not carrying packs? Their climbing ability and balance across precarious paths make them perfect for it. They are also insanely friendly, like dogs, so they stay with you, just as your video demonstrates. Thanks for posting.
Prior service? I’m guessing Army the way you carry yourself. 15W10P here. I love this. I have a great big national forest to explore, and demons to exercise.
i really dont know how i came here, but just wanted to let you know that you are doing gods work man. Teaching people about animals is something that is way underrated. Since i found your yt channel im actually interested in goats and this looks so peacful. Keep it up. hope all your goats are healthy and happy out there :) much love from germany
i would love to live off the grid and survive with goats. I hate city living and i just want to see the beauty of My Lords earth. Thank you for sharing with us God bless you and continue to be safe traveling the back country
As a preteen in New Zealand I used a goat (tahi) as a pack animal for bow hunting trips into the high country, he was essential to carry out all the meat. I’m 63 now and live in Australia and there has been a long tradition of goats being used as pack and draft animals here to back to before the turn of the 19th century. But hardly heard of now animal liberationists are the biggest problem now and have managed to get all goat cart racing at school show days etc. stopped. Sad to see.
It's interesting that the sport originated in WY...the state in which I reside. For me, it may possibly come full circle. Good stuff man. This might be a solution for me to continue to hike, after multiple spine surgeries. I've started many colts to pack and ride, so I'm very familiar with them, but they can be dangerous to be around for me now, and impractical on the trails I prefer to hike. Goats are definitely manageable.
I get it, I’ve ruptured L4 five and have had surgery as well as stem cell injections. I can still walk like a bad man so all I need is good goods to follow and I’m in heaven
@@PackGoatscom sounds like just the right workaround. If they can pack the 3/4, I'm good for what's left. A week on trail for me means about 50#s between resupply. If I'm just lugging a day pack, maybe my water, and electronics, they could haul the big ticket items. That definitely would be a game changer. Thank you Sir, for introducing the sport. There isn't a dog bred, that could haul the weight. Llamas are cumbersome and unresponsive, and equine are impractical. Just as you stated. This is a cool.
I can’t believe I’ve never heard of this. So, they mostly feed themselves, carry all your stuff, don’t just run off AND you can sit there an pat and chill with them after a long day on the trail, longer probably because it carries most of your stuff. I wondered with patience and time how many things you can teach a goat. Do they come when you call them if your out in the woods and they are foraging a little far away from camp?
Incredible job!. I see the reasoning for using goats. The Spanish Legion ( La Legion), in the parades has a goat by them. They took goats when in a military campaign as they feed by their own and provide milk and meat. Not so sure if they use them to carry loads.
This has been fascinating, more eager to go out to hike now. As a forager / gem prospector soon. I get that goats are best for the trails as you mentioned for logs, less dangerous than horses, & more relatable pets than lamas. Still I wonder what your opinion is on donkeys as a 2nd best option atleast? I mean donkeys may not be as good for log hopping, tho they are nice animals, less dangerous than horses, more friendly than lamas perhaps? I'm just from the Las Vegas desert & we have burros, their look like a mix of rabbits & horses evolution wise.
When I was a kid my mom and dad got three but we never got them trained so we just played with them and took them for walks every day. Still have one left in the pasture with other animals.
Thanks for the channel. I've been picking up pointers from your vids for a while now. We're in western MT and have been easing into packing for 2 years. We have 6 Alpine x that have done 1 overnighter and about 10 partially loaded day hikes recently. Archery season is around the corner and I'm really looking forward to taking the boys. Sometimes it seems a little overwhelming, but seeing other dudes getting after it really helps.Thanks again. NB
Do you castrate the billy's that you use? I know you breed your own distinct pack goat, but do you keep these breeding billy's as pack goats? Sorry if you've already answered this question, am only up to this first video of the series 😊. Am looking forward to learning all i can from you tho. Thanks for the great content.
I'm curious about your hay barn/goat barn construction... how do you keep rain/snow from getting the goat area and hay wet? Is there anything you add in the winter to keep the snow/wind out?
@@PackGoatscom Yeah I found them. Thank you! I have 4 dwarf goats now but will do some test runs with them and eventually get full size. I have been catching up on your videos and will be taking my kids and goats on adventures soon.
I have one mature Alpine buck, and (2) Alpine bucklings....The bucklings are almost 3 months old ...all of them get along fine... I want to leave all three males intact....will they all continue to get along as the younger bucklings mature? Or should I have them banded?
Hey Marc, when your goat packing and your goats are browsing on random vegetation along the way or at camp do you have to be mindful of poisonous plants? I live in the Pisgah Forest mountains of NC and we have our share of them. How do you mitigate this? Thanks
John Roberts Yes that can be an issue almost everywhere. With all the stress of trying to track what everyone is eating I gave up and counted on them learning what gets them and what doesn’t. A goat is very wise in what they eat. I’ve never lost a goat in years and thousands of miles of hiking. That said I’m careful in neighborhoods more so as those are plants they have less experience with.
@@zinknot mine love eating poison ivy and when they do and then I pet them which I do a lot I get it all over me cuz I'm highly allergic. No what I'm talking about is plants specifically poisonous to goats. I live in the Appalachian mountains where goats are not native to and there are more species of plants here than anywhere else in the world. And from what I gather from other people that own goats in this area there are plenty of plants to look out for. So far I've learned that wild black cherry tree leaves when they fall and wilt produce cyanide and when the goat consumes them it can make them very sick and sometimes cause death. I have wild black cherry trees in my yard and they eat the leaves that fall but I have not had a problem. I try to play close attention to what they eat but I've heard there are others. I actually pulled up a website that talks about 10 varieties of plants that include Walnut, Black oak, rhododendron, and mountain laurel to name a few
The town where Phillip II was born, Alexander the Great´s father, was named "Goats" or in Greek "Aiges" (pronounced :. Eges/E-yes, Greeks have 2 "E"s, Ai and E, both pronounced as "E" as in "elephant"). Aiges was the capital city of Makedonia by his birth, but he moved the capital over to the town of Pella, when he grew up and became the king.
I love your videos I am 69 year old hiker that is thinking about having one goat to help with pack weight. Love goats had milk goats for years when younger. Where would I get harness from?
The sport will need guys like this guy to keep them trained them and then have guests come but most people aren't going to go buy heard of goats to go backpack
It’s a non-issue for the most part I have thousands of trail miles with only one semi incident and even that was nothing. You’re overly worried about it here’s an article I wrote that will help you to know what my plan is. packgoats.com/pack-goats-and-predators-how-to-prevent-issues-before-they-occur/
@@PackGoatscom thanks for the reply! Random youtube recommendation and immediately it sounds awesome and you got a great channel. Only thing I thought of that I was going what if
Does anyone pack dwarf goats? I have had 3 Nigerian dwarf goat wethers for about a year as pets. I walk them (dog collars and leashes) for an hour or two around the sidewalks of my neighborhood. I should like to find a pack that would comfortably fit one to carry a couple of water bottles and a few treats when we walk.
Hey Marc, I've been watching your videos all morning. I mentioned previously, getting into this sport as a way to continue hiking with some personal physical limitations. Would a goat be ok singularly as my trail companion, or would it be better to have at least 2? I've not been around goats much, so pardon my naivete on the subject. Am I enough of a "herd" in the mountains, so to speak? The PCT can get busy in places, and I'm just trying to envision simplicity, while still having a pack animal/companion. Thanks for the information you share.
One question: How do you defend against predators? If I did this in my local woods here in Maine the coyotes and bobcats would be trailing us all the way.
I really want to make a through hike of the entire the pacific crest trail with pack goats but instead of doing it normally I want to only subside on goat milk, water, and fish and game caught along the way. Is this even possible or am I crazy??
Thrilled to have found you. New homesteader in N.E. KS. I have 4 goats, Both my does are due any day. 1/2 Alpine, 1/2 Spanish, and their dad is Kiko. Rather than buy a motorized contraption I am going to train the kids that are due to carry the tools I need out to the fields. Raising chickens in 10 x12 pens that can be moved with human strength, however if I could get the goats to pull them, that might help me as I get elderly. Can goats be trained to pull carts 12' on flat terrain? The pens need to be moved every day, so it would become part of their daily routine.
@@inhalefarts A massive dog who carries much less weight or an extremely well trained bear. Nothing is going to carry heavy loads AND actively protect you, gotta pick one job to focus on
A lot of people talk about worm problems in goats. Some attribute that to confinement forcing them to graze rather than browse. I wonder, what has Marc experienced with his goats and parasites?
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We are in the Highlands of Scotland and part of our farm is such difficult terrain that you can not even get a tractor onto it. Our goats are how we are going to be getting tools and equipment onto that part of the farm to repair and replace fencing, clear out the silted up streams so they flow properly again and so drain parts of the land to make it useable for sheep to graze.
It has been interesting starting their training. I am surprised at how well they will follow and how when they stop it's not to refuse to go, but to assess the situation and work out the best way for them.
Your videos are invaluable to us!
Homestead In The Highlands That is wonderful!! What fun.
I am now following
@@PackGoatscom what breed of goats are in the into? With the really long horns
Forget the tractor, start walking.
@@flock_ness that sounds like a perfect goat job. I'm from Germany, working on a half nomadic sheepfarm. My packgoats are only 9 months old right now, but I'm so exited to use them as well :) We don't necessarily need them, but I will cross Europe with them after school. Do you know what laws I have for England, Scotland and so on? I don't know if I will include it for my long hike, but if it's possible with the laws it would definitely hike Scotland as well
goats: hooman is good to us, we love hooman, we will forever follow hooman.
I have been hiking long trails since I was a kid. In my late 29 y had an accident and ever since I can't hike with my heavy load for long, I once almost fall in to a deadly place, so now I see this and gives me hope to continue solo hike safely 🤠, thanks for this great idea.
Good luck, mate!
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Me too my knees are giving me trouble
I thought my family was the only family that love goats. Thanks for leading the way!
I just listened to your episode on the homesteading podcast. This video is truly inspiring. Everytime i see a goat I get giddy and extatic. Thank you fir providing the world with your information.
@@JOKable25 kind of you to say 🙏🏻. So glad you feel inspired.
I am a giant fan and I also raise Alpine goat they are magical creatures for sure! I had to watch all of your videos backwards now I finally make it to episode number one and I'm even more impressed than ever! You are an amazing amazing man and we are all blessed to be able to share and your love for these beautiful creatures! Yesterday I just sold four of my bucklings who are going off from where I live here in the Ozarks to New Mexico to become pack goats! They're going to have a good life! thank you again for all you do and I'll keep watching all your videos!😊❤
Very kind words. Thankyou. Glad you find them helpful and cheers to giving your young boys a job.
I just discovered your channel and I immediately fell in love with it! you had a brilliant idea and the relationship you have with your goats is so beautiful and genuine. your excursions must be magnificent experiences!
Very kind of you to say so. Cheers
This is amazing! Actual dream "job" right here. I am following for sure
Combining exploring nature with animals like goats is such a cool idea.
Goats love this . The climbing and being out in the wild
Love them goats!
Excellent video & way cool 😎👋🏿
Dear from Europe. We've got pack goats way longer. I work on a traditional half nomadic sheepfarm in Germany, so I know some sheepherds that used packgoats. Pretty interesting to see it from an american perspective. And actually the US improved way more in saddles and so on, that's why I need to spread my research to the US. Your webside is actually very helpful, thanks for all the work and passion you're putting into it :)
I don't have someone close who still is used to packgoats, but that's not a reason to stop. My goats are 9 months old right now and I want to hike from Croatia to Spain and trought Germany. I'm so excited 😍. (Sorry for every mistakes that possibly are in my writing, English isn't my first language)
@@hundifischninchenpony well, I look forward to being helpful in making your goal possible. Let me know how I can support you heading down that path.
@@PackGoatscom Your content about saddles is really helpful, in Germany we only have two saddlers that also do saddles for goats, but only traditional Swiss saddles. Really interesting to see the improvements from the US. I've got only a few questions right now: How realistic is it to get them "street save"? Can they learn to walk on a sidewalk? Like right know they can do it, but because they are living in a flock with >600 sheep and 80 goats, so we are always use dogs to coordinate them on streets so that has nothing to do with the street saveness I need.
I have 4 goats right know, but I want to start my journey with only 3. Is 3 enough, I guess it is? Because I can also take a bagback, I just don't wanna pack that pretty much myself and I love goats. Hope it's understandable (thanks to my teacher from secondary school to not give up on my English 😊😂)
Beautiful hiking and bond with your goats.
This is my new favorite thing
Being an amateur radio operator I first saw pack goats from Steve WG0AT. Your channel is just as fun to watch as his. Keep up the wonderful educational content.
Imagine a goat carrying your radio equipment. With a huge antenna.
Early pioneers in Australia used goats as pack animals to deliver supplies to the far outback stations they help to open up this country along with the camels but little is known in this country about what they did. So I was delighted to see them being used again. I now breed American Alpines in Australia and saw another possibility for them other than dairy
Years ago I spent 9 days and 8 nights packing through Mongolia with locals and their horses. One morning a horse that was all packed up just turned around and ran back home! We were halfway through our trip. Took a few hours for someone to chase him down and bring him back.
This is amazing! I never knew goats would be able to carry weight like that or follow you around without stopping all the time to munch. It's is obvious that folks have definitely been underutilizing them for a long long time
I love the channel and concept. We have a herd of 20 Nigerian Dwarves and while not large they can surely be put to work. I'm getting to know these animals and the more I do the more I love them. They are indeed highly intelligent with distinct personalities. Great channel
I have 0 use for a herd of pack goats, but I still want a herd of pack goats 🗿
Just subbed! Somehow came up on YT suggestions. I love goats, so intelligent and so much personality. Adorable little creatures.
Why goats haven't been used for packing until recently is quite beyond me. They would have been quite helpful during the pioneer days.
Oh well. We know now...🐐❤️
@@robertsandberg2246 I'm also surprised. In Europe we use them way longer. Nomadic sheepherds and the Swiss stockmans used them sometimes, but because donkeys and cows are also there it never was necessary to use them.
Goats for my next camping trip!!!!
Horses or mules couldn't even do that . Awesome .
i support whatever he said 100%
i have been seeing goats since i was a kid well im muslim so we have been raising goats
and my great grand father was a sheperd and my grand father raised goats and now my dad is doing the same thing and even im interested
Wow,,, I had no idea... I will definitely will share this video to my WhatsApp friends.... Thank you very much for allowing me to watch this...
I'm pretty good at seeing things like this I think this sport will continue to grow for the next 400 years
I had no idea this was even a thing. But it’s really cool and now I want to know more
I have seen old references to goats as light draft animals, hauling sleds and even carts, so why not carrying packs? Their climbing ability and balance across precarious paths make them perfect for it. They are also insanely friendly, like dogs, so they stay with you, just as your video demonstrates. Thanks for posting.
Prior service? I’m guessing Army the way you carry yourself. 15W10P here.
I love this. I have a great big national forest to explore, and demons to exercise.
82c here, The goats would be great for packing survey equipment through rough terrain.
>be me, human
>raise goats for 10,000 years
>suddenly realize they can help hunt other ungulates
you reckon without my attack deer sir
Your channel is awesome. Please keep the videos coming.
i really dont know how i came here, but just wanted to let you know that you are doing gods work man. Teaching people about animals is something that is way underrated. Since i found your yt channel im actually interested in goats and this looks so peacful. Keep it up.
hope all your goats are healthy and happy out there :)
much love from germany
Thanks for watching!
i would love to live off the grid and survive with goats. I hate city living and i just want to see the beauty of My Lords earth. Thank you for sharing with us God bless you and continue to be safe traveling the back country
Then go. You are the only one stopping you.
I love goats ....love the video
thank you for sharing greetings from France!!
Make a PACK GOAT! 🐐
Them goats be packing!
So impressing!!!!
that is sooooo coooool!!! i want goats so bad!
I'm just getting into goats. It happened overnight that I got fascinated with them just as I assume you did. 😊
As a preteen in New Zealand I used a goat (tahi) as a pack animal for bow hunting trips into the high country, he was essential to carry out all the meat. I’m 63 now and live in Australia and there has been a long tradition of goats being used as pack and draft animals here to back to before the turn of the 19th century. But hardly heard of now animal liberationists are the biggest problem now and have managed to get all goat cart racing at school show days etc. stopped. Sad to see.
It's interesting that the sport originated in WY...the state in which I reside. For me, it may possibly come full circle. Good stuff man. This might be a solution for me to continue to hike, after multiple spine surgeries. I've started many colts to pack and ride, so I'm very familiar with them, but they can be dangerous to be around for me now, and impractical on the trails I prefer to hike. Goats are definitely manageable.
I get it, I’ve ruptured L4 five and have had surgery as well as stem cell injections. I can still walk like a bad man so all I need is good goods to follow and I’m in heaven
@@PackGoatscom sounds like just the right workaround. If they can pack the 3/4, I'm good for what's left. A week on trail for me means about 50#s between resupply. If I'm just lugging a day pack, maybe my water, and electronics, they could haul the big ticket items. That definitely would be a game changer. Thank you Sir, for introducing the sport. There isn't a dog bred, that could haul the weight. Llamas are cumbersome and unresponsive, and equine are impractical. Just as you stated. This is a cool.
Love it. Keep em coming. 👍
I can’t believe I’ve never heard of this. So, they mostly feed themselves, carry all your stuff, don’t just run off AND you can sit there an pat and chill with them after a long day on the trail, longer probably because it carries most of your stuff. I wondered with patience and time how many things you can teach a goat. Do they come when you call them if your out in the woods and they are foraging a little far away from camp?
I love your goats especially that brown one just gorgeous
Deborrah Dutra Thank you, that is Thorn, he is super loving as well. He can’t get enough
@@PackGoatscom Is he an Oberhasli?
@@PackGoatscom Is he an Oberhasli?
Mendicus Machli he is a ober/alpine cross
I just saw your vid on Facebook while you are snowboarding with them.
What an art
Well thank you.
Amazing video. Subscribing to see your journey with these animals
WOW. Que. Hermosas. Cabritas. Me encanta. Cómo seben. Consu. Mochila. Jajaja. Que buen vídeo amigo. 👍💪🇲🇽
Mochila de cabra, lol! Si, cabras son bueno animales. Lo siento, me espanol es mal me lengua es ingles.
omg this is awesome!
Can watch this for hours
This is amazing ....
😉
Super cool, subscribed!
Thanks for your support!
Incredible job!. I see the reasoning for using goats. The Spanish Legion ( La Legion), in the parades has a goat by them. They took goats when in a military campaign as they feed by their own and provide milk and meat. Not so sure if they use them to carry loads.
This has been fascinating, more eager to go out to hike now. As a forager / gem prospector soon. I get that goats are best for the trails as you mentioned for logs, less dangerous than horses, & more relatable pets than lamas. Still I wonder what your opinion is on donkeys as a 2nd best option atleast? I mean donkeys may not be as good for log hopping, tho they are nice animals, less dangerous than horses, more friendly than lamas perhaps? I'm just from the Las Vegas desert & we have burros, their look like a mix of rabbits & horses evolution wise.
Amazing trip, beautiful scenery. I got a question: are they all males?
Amazing animals these goats. They can eat any green
A true friends
i want to get a pack goat because i love to hike but am disabled so the amount of weight i can carry is really limiting
Great stuff
When I was a kid my mom and dad got three but we never got them trained so we just played with them and took them for walks every day. Still have one left in the pasture with other animals.
Thanks for the channel. I've been picking up pointers from your vids for a while now. We're in western MT and have been easing into packing for 2 years. We have 6 Alpine x that have done 1 overnighter and about 10 partially loaded day hikes recently. Archery season is around the corner and I'm really looking forward to taking the boys. Sometimes it seems a little overwhelming, but seeing other dudes getting after it really helps.Thanks again. NB
Nathan Bay Good stuff man! Have a blast with them this season. I’ll be out there too.
As a fellow Montanan, I would say get orange on them!!!
Amazing!
my inner gypsy loves this
Do you castrate the billy's that you use? I know you breed your own distinct pack goat, but do you keep these breeding billy's as pack goats? Sorry if you've already answered this question, am only up to this first video of the series 😊. Am looking forward to learning all i can from you tho. Thanks for the great content.
Often I will keep them in tact breed them and then cut them at about eight months old and then yes they become my Packers
I'm curious about your hay barn/goat barn construction... how do you keep rain/snow from getting the goat area and hay wet? Is there anything you add in the winter to keep the snow/wind out?
Nice! Where did you get the hardness for them?
Packgoats.com
@@PackGoatscom Yeah I found them. Thank you! I have 4 dwarf goats now but will do some test runs with them and eventually get full size. I have been catching up on your videos and will be taking my kids and goats on adventures soon.
I have one mature Alpine buck, and (2) Alpine bucklings....The bucklings are almost 3 months old ...all of them get along fine... I want to leave all three males intact....will they all continue to get along as the younger bucklings mature? Or should I have them banded?
how do you train them to follow you?
I don’t. They are just bonded by bottle feeding them so they follow out of herd dynamics.
Where do you live?
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Welcome to the tiger country
I always wanted to do a walk across US, and I think I see a way to do it with most of my gear
@@pdzh yes I’ve considered it myself as well
@@PackGoatscom if you do in in few years from now, think about me, I may join on the journey, lol, but with all seriousness I would
Amazing, these goats can walk on logs
You ever see them climbing the sides of cliffs? Logs are easy lol.
What are your thoughts on using pack goats in back country fire fighting?
What amazing goats....,what is the goats breeds name?
Tegar Agung Subagyo Mostly Alpines
@@PackGoatscom this goat breeds looked perfect and so obidient.......in this video..., is other goat breeds can be trained to like this alphine goat ?
How good are they at sensing predators?
This makes me think so much of Beorn in The Hobbit.
People will come and pay to participate in hikes and go with this guy I think it would be too hard for most people to manage their own goats
Hey Marc, when your goat packing and your goats are browsing on random vegetation along the way or at camp do you have to be mindful of poisonous plants? I live in the Pisgah Forest mountains of NC and we have our share of them. How do you mitigate this?
Thanks
John Roberts Yes that can be an issue almost everywhere. With all the stress of trying to track what everyone is eating I gave up and counted on them learning what gets them and what doesn’t. A goat is very wise in what they eat. I’ve never lost a goat in years and thousands of miles of hiking. That said I’m careful in neighborhoods more so as those are plants they have less experience with.
Most poisonous plants don't effect goats. Where I live in the Pacific Northwest many people use them to eat poison oak.
@@zinknot mine love eating poison ivy and when they do and then I pet them which I do a lot I get it all over me cuz I'm highly allergic. No what I'm talking about is plants specifically poisonous to goats. I live in the Appalachian mountains where goats are not native to and there are more species of plants here than anywhere else in the world. And from what I gather from other people that own goats in this area there are plenty of plants to look out for. So far I've learned that wild black cherry tree leaves when they fall and wilt produce cyanide and when the goat consumes them it can make them very sick and sometimes cause death. I have wild black cherry trees in my yard and they eat the leaves that fall but I have not had a problem. I try to play close attention to what they eat but I've heard there are others. I actually pulled up a website that talks about 10 varieties of plants that include Walnut, Black oak, rhododendron, and mountain laurel to name a few
The town where Phillip II was born, Alexander the Great´s father, was named "Goats" or in Greek "Aiges" (pronounced :. Eges/E-yes, Greeks have 2 "E"s, Ai and E, both pronounced as "E" as in "elephant"). Aiges was the capital city of Makedonia by his birth, but he moved the capital over to the town of Pella, when he grew up and became the king.
I love your videos I am 69 year old hiker that is thinking about having one goat to help with pack weight. Love goats had milk goats for years when younger. Where would I get harness from?
Packgoats.com
that was magnificent
The sport will need guys like this guy to keep them trained them and then have guests come but most people aren't going to go buy heard of goats to go backpack
Have you ever had a bear attack? What do you do with predator protection? I’m afraid of leaving food at camp I feel like I’d have a target on me
It’s a non-issue for the most part I have thousands of trail miles with only one semi incident and even that was nothing. You’re overly worried about it here’s an article I wrote that will help you to know what my plan is. packgoats.com/pack-goats-and-predators-how-to-prevent-issues-before-they-occur/
@@PackGoatscom thanks for the reply! Random youtube recommendation and immediately it sounds awesome and you got a great channel. Only thing I thought of that I was going what if
Does anyone pack dwarf goats? I have had 3 Nigerian dwarf goat wethers for about a year as pets. I walk them (dog collars and leashes) for an hour or two around the sidewalks of my neighborhood. I should like to find a pack that would comfortably fit one to carry a couple of water bottles and a few treats when we walk.
They say about 25-30% of the goats body weight. So water bottles and snacks should be fine
how do you manage the threat of bears?
Hey Marc, I've been watching your videos all morning. I mentioned previously, getting into this sport as a way to continue hiking with some personal physical limitations. Would a goat be ok singularly as my trail companion, or would it be better to have at least 2? I've not been around goats much, so pardon my naivete on the subject. Am I enough of a "herd" in the mountains, so to speak? The PCT can get busy in places, and I'm just trying to envision simplicity, while still having a pack animal/companion. Thanks for the information you share.
One question:
How do you defend against predators?
If I did this in my local woods here in Maine the coyotes and bobcats would be trailing us all the way.
packgoats.com/pack-goats-and-predators-how-to-prevent-issues-before-they-occur/
Awesome video so outta curiosity how much weight do you put on them?
He said in the beginning 50-70 lbs
I really want to make a through hike of the entire the pacific crest trail with pack goats but instead of doing it normally I want to only subside on goat milk, water, and fish and game caught along the way. Is this even possible or am I crazy??
Norwegian college here :-)
Norwegian Hillbilly like it!
Where do you get the packs for the goats? :)
Packgoats.com
Thrilled to have found you. New homesteader in N.E. KS. I have 4 goats, Both my does are due any day. 1/2 Alpine, 1/2 Spanish, and their dad is Kiko. Rather than buy a motorized contraption I am going to train the kids that are due to carry the tools I need out to the fields. Raising chickens in 10 x12 pens that can be moved with human strength, however if I could get the goats to pull them, that might help me as I get elderly. Can goats be trained to pull carts 12' on flat terrain? The pens need to be moved every day, so it would become part of their daily routine.
I'm sure as long as you have enough goats.
@@hoviksmail update 5 new kids, 4 girls, 1 boy. All 9 goats are very healthy and happy. They have plenty of brush and grass to work on.
just WOW. I have goats, I wish I will teach them to walk with me also.
Can you use goat horns to make horn bows.
No clue
Nice it's like a dog and a mule mixed kinda, if they will protect me that is even better
Human role to goats is to protect them! In return they will carry your stuff.
@@ralphy4813 I need something that is more between a dog and a goat what kind are those?
@@inhalefarts A massive dog who carries much less weight or an extremely well trained bear. Nothing is going to carry heavy loads AND actively protect you, gotta pick one job to focus on
A lot of people talk about worm problems in goats.
Some attribute that to confinement forcing them to graze rather than browse.
I wonder, what has Marc experienced with his goats and parasites?
Those kind of things are usually from keeping them confined in unsanitary conditions.
I wonder if the USMC Cold Weather training center would consider goats?