Where & How To Mount a Pump on an Outdoor Wood Boiler | Alternative Heating
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- Опубліковано 11 лип 2024
- In this video, Jeff Luff of Alternative Heating & Supplies will teach you where and how to mount a pump on a wood boiler. Learn all the best practices before, during and after the installment.
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Very informative videos keep them coming
Any suggestions? Working down my list and want to make sure the list keeps growing.
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@Killian Solomon yea, been watching on instaflixxer for months myself =)
I'm working on getting my boiler built and set up and this channel has been invaluable. Thanks for all the great information! I am just getting ready to install pump now, so it was perfect timing for this video, I had no idea the pump need to be horizontal.
a man with good command sense 👍👍
Awesome video. Thank you
Glad you liked it!
This makes perfect sense. My Hardy H-4 has the pump mounted on the high side. I don't think I have room to change it to the low side. I will pursue this after this years burning season.
There is always a way! I'm sure you will figure it out... Happy Heating.
Never would have thought to move my pump. Question regarding that if I move my pump to the lower port do I also move my temperature sensor or leave it in its current location? I have an earth outdoor wood boiler, specifically my mountain man 400 series. I would upload a picture to show you but I can’t here
Ok so I took the advise and moved the pump to the lower inlet and the return to the upper. On my boiler there is a temperature probe that controls the fan when to turn on to heat the water. Should I have it mounted on the lower port T or the upper port T ? I have an earth outdoor wood boiler.
Could this pump be used with a solar hot water collector and a water to air heater?
This video would’ve been more helpful about a month and a half ago about getting the air out of the system,
But I got itworks great extremely happy with my new heating system,
I used a hot water heater for my heating source and took apart my furnace and put a heat exchanger in there,
And I’m loving it,
Cost a lot less to heat and it’s a lot hotter to.
I have had a lot of calls about pumps this year for some reason. Happy heating
my high port is actually more like in the middle of the tank. Low port is at very bottom. The pump is on the high port and I have issues with water boiling. I plan on moving the pump to the low port. My question is: would it be better to make a new pot at the top of the tank and return there. There is a cover on top that I could drill a hole and even weld a fitting to. Thanks for all the great info.
No to the port at the top, unless you send the water all the way to the front on the top. The water is simply mixing in the back of the boiler only with most boiler designs. Ideally you want water returning to the front top of the boiler and and supply from back lower port to mix all the water in the boiler.
I have a 4400 wood master I have my pump on the bottom and the return on the top, but they r both on the same side of the furnace only because the dealer was very positive about this concept but seeing ur video and ur diagram on the board, u have them on the opposite side of each other is this they correct way for my furnace?
I would recommend you put them they way I show. Woodmaster also agrees with me. A lot of dealers do this part time and not really sure of these things. Jeff
I’ve been in the oil field to long apparently. We have different definitions of large pumps. Big is any fluid pump motor over 100hp.
You are correct, 100 HP is a big pump.. LOL
What determines the need of a check valve on you’re pump
So this is my setup.. after watching your video I realize it's wrong so it's switching these two since they are so close really make a big difference? I'm having some temperature issues is there any chance moving the pump would resolve that??
Not sure. Move them and Hope! two birds one stone!
I am installing a Aqua therm pressurized wood boiler. They show the pump installed at the bottom of the boiler pulling from the house and pushing into the bottom of the boiler. Hot water to the house goes above the boiler through a air scoop and then down to the house. Do you think that it should be reversed or since it is pressurized this works? Thanks
I'm not familiar with pressurized boilers, so follow their directions. Happy heating.
Hello, I have a Central Boiler system. It is about 65' away from my house. The pump is on the boiler. It heats my home through a coil in the plenum and it heats my hot water. Both are right next to each other in the basement. I just bought a unit to hang in my garage and heat the garage. My question is: since the furnace and hot water heater are in the basement, do I need another pump to pump the water from the basement to the ceiling level in the garage? It will be about another 20' away horizontal, and then about 10'-12' vertical.
Most often you don't need to add another pump. hook it up and see. If your not getting enough heat buy a larger pump. You won't know until you try. Jeff
My boiler has the pump set up on the bottom, but it pushes towards the boiler instead of pulling from it. Would I be able to just flip the pump around and reverse the flow or would that cause an issue? Since it would go through the furnace heat exchanger before the sidearm exchanger on the water heater.
Yes you should be able to do that. If you want flip the supply and return pipes too to keep the sidearm first. Make the existing supply the return and vs versa. Jeff
I'm curious, have you ever considered mounting an electric water heater element in the jacket of the boiler just to keep the water freezing if you were going to be gone for a week or something? seems like you could have it set so that it only comes on at a lower temperature as a safeguard.
Shad Peters I would think you could just pipe the boiler through the electric water heater and then turn the water heater on when you are gone, or a tankless water heater
@@buzzsaw301 this is heating a shop and there is no water heater.
If you had to (with no fire burning in the stove): Turn your home(shop) thermostat up as high as it will go so the circ pump on your stove runs continuously. The circ pump running would keep it from freezing.
Just circulating the water (into the house and back) without a fire will keep it from freezing. I used a "freeze cube" to trigger the pump motor (plug and cord attachment) when the outdoor temp drops below 36F (and it also turned on a light). Then it occurred to me that my $12 fix was the only thing avoiding an $8,000 repair, if the freeze cube fails for some reason and I crack the water jacket! Now I simply switch on the circulator whenever the weather forecast is below 40F and I'm not ready to light a 24/7 fire to heat the house for only a few hours a day. The wasted electricity on my 1/6 hp circulator for a few days is minimal cost for the "insurance". Of course, I can still use the freeze cube light as a reminder to check. ETA: Forgot to mention, my loop is only about 30 feet long and includes a brazed plate heat exchanger in the warm basement.
Wireing one
Black wire to black wire and white to white. Hard to mess up. Jeff
Do pumps get worn and become less effective gradually? But if the GPM is lower, how can I tell if it is pump wear or build up in HX, I have 2?
Yes they do, there is a lot of sediment in the water that slowly and surely chew down the prop in the pump which reduces the pumps effectiveness. You will need to install a gauges the tells you your GPM and beside that there is no way I am aware of of determining that HX has build up.
Hello,I need your help I have a 007-HBF5-J pump assy for my outdoor wood boiler can you tell me how far this pump can push the water.
I have looked but cant find that info.
I watched a video of yours and I saw you mention different pump numbers and how far they would push,but I cannot find it again.
Thanks
0 to 20gpm and max 11ft head. Specs are on Google. Head pressure is how hi it will pump straight up. Every 90 degree turn that is in that loop equals 1ft of head pressure.
A lot of variables and to many to mention. The Taco 007 is a small pump and is only designed to pump around a house zone. So it won't pump to far.
What will happen if the pump is straight up not side ways I got to for 7 years on no prob nice tutorial.
Sometimes nothing like in your case, it is what the manufactures recommend. Also when breaking the seal they don't water dripping on the motors or electrical part of the pump.
Couldn't you just crack the the cap on top of the unit and purge air out that way?? Wouldn't the pump push the air out and vent to atmosphere??
That usually doesn't work, those little vents are for micro bubbles... in the systems that are already bleed.
M
If you can hear your pump running inside your house there is something wrong with the pump. They are very quiet. Also the pump doesn't need to be outside to keep it cool. These pumps are used in indoor applications far more often than outdoor applications considering outdoor boilers are a very small minority of hydronic heating systems. Otherwise the video was good.
Well most women have supersonic hearing and can hear things we can't, my ol lady even says she hears me thinking...something I didn't even know I did according to her
Adam Bauman NASA has hired my ol lady to listen for 👽
The folks at Garn pull from the top, I’ll bet they’d like to argue. 🤦♂️🤷🏻
I have seen several manufactures do the same thing, I have found this way to cause serval issues. They way I do it seems to solve all those problems. Your choice...
@@AltheatsupplyLLC no, I totally agree with the way you recommend, it just seems strange that such an expensive boiler that’s been around forever would be doing it backwards as they are.