Transgender athletes banned from elite international track and field events l GMA
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- Опубліковано 23 бер 2023
- The World Athletics Council, the international governing body over track and field, announced a ban that prevents transgender athletes from participating in female events after going through male puberty.
#transgender #trackandfield #news #abcnews
Finally some actual sanity and common sense reasoning from a governing sports body! 👍
dude, FINA(Swimming) & WRC(Rugby) made these decisions 2022.
World Cycling Body increased from 12months to 24mnths the transition time period to show consistent testosterone decrease & the maximum permitted plasma testosterone level has been lowered from 5 nmol/L to 2.5 nmol/L (maximum testosterone level found in 99.99 percent of the female population).
@@gmmonomotapa2889: Okay. Thank you for pointing that out. I will now amend my original comment:
Finally some more actual sanity and common sense reasoning from at least three governing sports bodies! 👍
@@scottlalexander510 No worries Scott. You have yourself a good weekend.
Next we need to ban athletes who work out because their strength gives them an unfair advantage. Also, ban people who come from wealthy families because their wealth gives them unfair training advantages. And I personally don't think manly looking women should be allowed to compete because they're typically bigger and stronger than other women. And no Hispanics or Blacks either because they often excel at athletics.
@@gmmonomotapa2889 still not enough
This needs to be a rule in every high school league, and college as well.
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@@pinkbuttercup2023it really isn’t. It’s necessary
@@Baller4Life1 Absolutely, it honestly should have never gotten this far. This is ridiculous at this point.
Believe me schools wil follow soon enough. People are sick and tired of the whole woke culture and are opening their eyes. They’re starting to fight back and let the real voice of the people be heard. The moment they started messing with our kids by putting those crazy books in the library, pushing political views onto them and letting intact trans “women” into bathrooms/changing rooms was the moment we had enough. These people have no morals and value and they’d happily kill people to force their point.
@@TNTkeynine Why don’t you care more?
Great to hear this. Let women compete against women. Not against men who were unable to succeed as athletes until they 'declared' themselves to no longer be men.
Trans women don’t “declare themselves are women🤡” because they are “Men who were unable to succeed as athletes”
Transwomen are women, and thinking they only transition just for sports proves that you’re just transphobic and dumb tbh
Where is the outcry for transgender men to compete with men? Why do we only hear it one way? Oh, that's right, because transgender men are still biological women and can't compete with men.
There is no man subjecting themselves to gender reassignment and the prejudice against trans people just to try to gain some kind of athletic advantage. Delusional 🙄
That's one easy way of phrasing it. In this case, it may be the real reason.
Regardless of what anyone says or argues about, ...a trans is male ...as born ....a male. It is only his hereditary gene makeup that determines his PHYSICAL end makeup ...how tall, how fat, etc., etc.
You can throw all the hormone treatment you want at someone, particularly after puberty, and he will have already started his physical growth far more accelerated than any female. The guy might want to be female all he wants. HIS attitude is not going to change. It is "authorities" who should be taking the correct stand and realize this is a guy ....an athlete no less ..who is wanting to compete ..against females. He could also very easily have ulterior personal motives ..such as INTENTIONALLY CHEATING to beat ALL FEMALE RECORDS. Whatever the reason ..this is an ATHLETCI GUY no matter which way you want to try to angle it ..and the guy is making ALL the authorities look like a bunch of amateur organizers/leaders.
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Just because you feel like a woman doesn't mean you don't have stronger muscles/ bones, and normally a height advantage. I'm not saying that is always that case, but especially when it comes to high level athletes it almost always is. All other sports administration's need to follow suit...PROTECT WOMENS SPACES!!!
Just because you think you are a woman does not mean you are one. This is why there 2 separate categories. Ridiculous that as a human race we have to waste time to state and regulate the obvious. Ridiculous.
There is no such thing as feeling like a woman or feeling like a man. You are either a woman (adult human female) or you are not. You are a man (adult human male) or you are not. Men have no idea how it feels like to be a woman because they have never been a woman.
There’s no such thing as “feeling like a woman” any more than there is a such thing as “feeling like a Black American” or an immigrant, or a baby boomer.
You are what you are and if someone has a problem with their natural reality, that’s their personal issue, not a social one for the rest of society to remedy. Glad to see common sense creeping back into mainstream culture.
Women has demanded to be equal with men through the Fem movement. Believing that women and men are equal and deserve equal rights. Quite simply, FEM movement is all about all genders having equal rights and opportunities. Its about respecting diverse womens experiences, identities, knowledge and STRENGTHS and striving to empower all women to realize their full rights. WHATS THE DAMN PROBLEM STRONG WOMEN!!
It's simple...Sometimes you "feel" like a nut, sometimes you don't...
As a woman, it just killing me when they are referred as a “woman”. This is just disrespecting the real women to the highest!!!!
But let them my dear for we have something special that they don’t and that is we can produce a pheromone that only real men can smell and attracts them. Now those men playing as a woman can’t do that.
I say Lady-boys, "feminine males." They can have THAT word and leave WOMAN to women born as such.
It's not a fair or true comparison, Woman's sports are for Woman only
They want to call real woman , ‘cis woman’. Like enough with the labels
@@ssaleem2
That's the most ironic and insulting part of all!
When it comes to them, suddenly TRANS W are Women, but when it comes to actual biological women, all of sudden...CIS & Cisgender needs to be added!
So while Trans are quick to say that Trans W are Women, notice how you've never heard a trans say, "Women are Women"
You'll never hear them say that, and there's a reason.
You've never heard a trans refer to women who are not lesbians and only want men) as straight women or heterosexual Women and there's a reason for that.
You never hear Transgenders refer to women as just WOMEN... and there's a reason for that too!!
Straight Ppl don't understand the manipulation and conditioning that's being done when they adopt certain trans/LGBTQ lingo.
Many transgenders are ashamed of who they are, the trans identity is a reminder that they're not women but still male, so now, they wanna call themselves WOMEN without the trans/transgender part.... this is why they constantly keeping saying Trans W are Women but you never hear them say TRANS W are TRANS W.
Why is that?
The fact that this is even a discussion is mind-blowing.
Right 👍
They should be bared, they are not woman.
The factory was legitimised this subject is crazy. I completely agree with you ,why is this even a discussion
Welcome to the liberal utopia.
I guess humanity really are just bored out of their mind.
They deserved to be removed. Time to put common sense back into our sports.
And to public places where they require sane people to call them by what they prefer to be referred to
Well done. It's fair for women athletes.👏
“The protection of the female category” so well said, thank you❤
Shut up
Can we get this ban in the bathrooms now with the same line of reasoning ? “The protection of the female category [and children].”
@@ssaleem2 No good feminist thinks trans women are women. No scientist, either.
Finally some common sense.
This is good. The crazy thing is how they lump in the women with genetic disorders with the weirdos like lia thomas.
THAT is wrong.
Transwomen are absolutely NOT women, but caster semenya absolutely IS
We live in a world where people make a sensible decision and the crazy people are crying about it
Exactly, they made the visible decision to indict Frump, and all the Republicans are crying about it, lol
Let them cry.
@@rayj.4527 exactly mate. im an ex boxer, if i identified as a woman i could easily kill a female with a single shot. is that what the loonies want? thought not. its all or nothing, not pick and choose what you want to fit. thank fk theres some sense finally.
I get your point, but you could've worded your comment a bit better, that's pretty much normal lol
define crazy
Well it's about time!! How is this even a discussion in the first place?!
The trans community can say whatever they want, but the rest of the world can’t say a word or they will be shunned as transphobia.. that’s “bullying” on the highest level! Men and woman have feelings too..
EXACTLY
It's gaslighting. Feminists should be angry about women having to compete with men. If anything, they should say that we finally have 'women' that can compete with men! Isn't that what feminists have wanted for decades?
I agree.
@@geev3416 I treat this person the same way I treat anyone else! A cheater is a cheater. If they don't want me to say anything, then they don't want to be treated equally.
Protect women’s rights!!!!
That;s exactly what they've done.
But whatabout equality
@@skyelark155 What about equality? Make your argument, I'll rub your face in it. You seem like the stupid type, all mouth and ass, no substance.
@@skyelark155 Where is the "equality" in letting grown biological males compete with biological women ?
On an average, trans women have got advantages of height, muscle mass, lung capacity, strength, bone mass, better cardiovascular functions, larger airways etc over cis-women.
And a lot of these can't be changed with hormonal therapy, because some of them are intrinsic characteristics of a human body. A human body is much more than the few glands secreting testosterone or estrogen , especially after the person has passed his/her puberty.
@@skyelark155 Nothing is equal in this world and certainly not men and women!
95% of people agree with this ruling and want to see it in Highschool also
AMEN TO THAT 🙌
MORE LIKE 99.9% AGREE. ONLY WACKJOB LIBERAL DEMOCRATS
College as well
Try 99%. People forget most of the planet full of white westerners. No one in Bangladesh is saying transwomen r women
99% it's just those cun* woke lefies are always online shouting when they're suppose to be working for their startup tech company
justice was done women do not have to submit to this atrocity
Mr. Thomas just doesn’t get it.
I’m soooo happy about this. A good step in the right direction to protect the integrity of women’s sports 🙏🏼
It should be pointed out that athletes like Castor Semenya is not transgender. She naturally has a XXY chromosome with female genitalia. There are other athletes like her such as Mbomba who naturally have high testosterone. They are different from athletes like Lia Thomas who transitioned after puberty through drugs and surgery.
This is a good distinction. I happen to think that the WAC's new approach to both transgender and intersex athletes is correct.
Yes good point. But probably these intersex people and trans people can compete in the new third category.
While you are absolutely right, Ms. Semenya is not transgender, rather she is intersex....her naturally high testosterone is the result of having internal testes.
Testes (whether internal or external) is the reason why biological men also have naturally high testosterone and gives both intersex individuals and biological males an advantage over biological women.
I do not believe trans athletes who have transitioned should be allowed to compete with cisgender women. However, female athletes with naturally high levels of testosterone deserve more consideration. More science based data should be collected to determine if there is an unfair advantage. Is it ethical or safe to force them to take drugs which may have harmful side effects? There are some athletes who have said the drugs made them feel awful. I enjoyed watching Castor run. She was unaware of her condition during most of her career and the way she was publicly humiliated was shameful.
@@178fireman there is no need of any more data, there is plenty already. Their exposure to testosterone during puberty has given them certain clear advantages, regardless of if they were born with it. If you have similar levels of testosterone as a man, and have internal male testes, then you should compete with men. Simple.
How has common sense become news?
Wow... Finally justice for women
As a man. Thank you for protecting female sports. I want to see more phenomenal competition and athletes emerge .
true I want to see real women on top of the podium. It was nice to see the Eileen Gu dominate in extreme skiing and become a spokes women for women sports. The trans gender just win and take the money and run. None can be a spokes person, and they don't care because they just want to win. BTW didn't they have to take drugs to do the transistion.That should be an automatic ban. As for the ACLU, they are a disgrace and are not protecting women, they only protect and push the trans agenda...
Exactly, you think I wanna see a man playing in the LFL (Lingerie Football League)? GTFOH!
HE IS A SHE !!!!
Same, It has been a hot water issue and thankfully we're making advances
Great news for women's right to fair play! Biology matters, especially in sports because we compete with our body, not our identity. Thank you World Athletics for protecting women's rights!
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She's a woman that naturally has high testosterone levels. She's a South African athlete by the way. Unfortunately you have been misinformed.
@@weziefaith5484 We're commenting on the actual video which is primarily about trans women. Did you watch the video or was the thumbnail all the viewing you did? 😂 We know Caster is a woman, she's allowed to compete if she lowers her T levels, which is fair. This network is a joke and shouldn't use that thumbnail to spread misinformation about the actual topic.
Very well said
Who watches womens sports anyway. Why watch that when you could watch the best athletes compete which are men. Womens sports like the WNBA only exists because the NBA gives them money since the wnba loses $10 million a year. If anything transgenders in womens sports makes it more exciting. Any womens sports that does not make money & leeches of the male leagues to survive should just be abolished.
If one wants to be Transgender - that’s their right. However, how is that fair when they want to compete in a women sport? These people should stop whining!!!
About bloody time ffs!
Society has lost its mind how could we even have issue to argue with this 😂
Right, it’s beyond simple. And human feelings let something sooo simple turn into such a traumatic chaotic issue. For one, ignorant parents letting their 6 year old kids parent them. This week the kid said, I don’t want to be a boy anymore, and then little Michael starts crying, then mom takes him to a dumb psychologist who wants to make a name for himself, and gives it some weird diagnosis. And it goes downhill from there. And society has to pay the expenses for expensive hormones and surgeries, etc. And we’re the blame if they want to commit suicide, because we believe in biology, over their personal feelings against science and what they want to see in the mirror!👎🏽
To be fair, feminism spent so much time man hating, he rearranged the definition of a woman to fit in. Be careful what you wish for or wrath on.
Wrong can become right to anybody wanting to be recognized.they often wiling to let go of reason or fairness for validation.
It's not about your identity, but your physicality, which is not a social construct! You can't "decide" to be weaker and smaller!
actually you kind of can...cocaine! lol
exactly and men have bigger physicality so men pretending to be women is a huge problem
I mean this is a different case since she was born with both male and female chromosomes.She is intersex which I wish the video would have clarified but Nah let’s make the video more friendly to please everyone hmm
@@guinnmyahslaysstaymad yeah she’s perfectly fine genetic thing also I don’t think it’s that big of an advantage as she’s not a full blown dude
Very well put .
I am surprised it took you this long to realize how wrong you were. Let them compete in their own category!
The right thing to do. The insanity of a few is finally stopped at last!!
At last someone is standing for our female athletes! Bravo!!!
Transphobe.
It should apply to all sports as soon as possible. You are not banned. You just have to run with other men because you are a man.
Should trans men be able to compete against women?
@@2Beasty nope. You want some 7 foot dude in a skirt playing basketball with your high school daughter? In locker room with her?
@@2Beastyyes they are originally women you don’t see this on man sports because women can’t be men in sports they are just stronger
Very clear!!! 👏. They can still compete! They just have to compete with humans with their same genetic material “XY”
@@M.Swigglezno, women on testosterone, while weaker than biological men, are stronger than regular women. They made a trans dude compete with women in high school wrestling and "he" bodied all the girls. Testosterone is a performance enhancing drug that increases muscle mass and growth.
Finally common sense.
The world is finally fighting back. One small step for people. One giant step for humanity. I’m so glad common sense is being enforced
So glad this is happening. People are coming back to their senses 👏👏👏
The world is healing lol
@@VincentMcmanus. Yes. You'd never know it, listening to the news and politics. It's all doom and gloom. There are actually a lot of good things happening right now.
@@Lydynthmn agreed 100%. All the news media care about is sharing negative news, but the reality is people are realising the truth
You mean liberals. The rest of us have retained our sense😂
@@Jlitt-yw2zm Nah, just the far-left. Those of us in the center-left hate those people as much as the rest fo you do.
Center-left wants clean air, water, electricity, public transport, infrastructure improvements, better healthcare, abortion rights, more time off for new mothers, etc.
Far-left supports guys calling themselves women and participating in women's sports, and even wants children to undergo gender reassignment surgeries.
Both are liberal, but we are not the same.
On the other hand , I think we know why women who transgender to "men"
don't compete in men's sports.
Maybe why the transgender boys don't compete against other males😮
Right lol. Now wouldn't that be a sad sight. I think even ladymen know they are female and it wouldn't work out for them favorably.
How would anyone know?? .. of course they do, lol. With the right drugs, they can outperform many biological men.
They were born men. It's a messed up feeling
They literally just interviewed one in the video you’re commenting on
I thought this was a facebook joke and recently found out transgenders have actually been competing against women. LOL
ABOUT F-IN TIME! THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF THE END FOR THIS BS!
Bless all the biological women, especially female athletes of the world 🙏 May your endeavors eventually bloom beautifully.
Women have a human right to single-sex categories in sports.
Women have A Period men don't
@@GGAMB ok then...women go through menopause men don't...I can do this all night Long. No womb mean no woman. No ovaries means no felopian tubes. I mean dam what do you want?!?!
@Khalil 8991 they had periods at some point as well. Hence had eggs and still do have their ovaries in them.
Those cramps hurt like crazy too.
@TNTkeynine I don't know your definition of gender and I have never heard the term gender sports...so I guess I have never cared about gender sports. I'm really not sure what that is. I do, however, care about same-sex sports. I watch women's sports in the Olympics every couple of years. Also, the women in my family taught me to care about women's rights my entire life.
What took so long to come to this conclusion?
The thumbnail is leading. That's caster semenya and she's not transgender
Thought so too...
She was born a female but happens to have differences in sex development which makes her body naturally produce high testosterone levels matching male counterparts.
Biologically, he is a man... Thats why she needs hormone suppressing treatment
❤ BRAVO!!! Should have happened a long time ago. Bring back some sanity and decency to society.
I'm curious why it's banned? Do they actually have that much of an advantage? I think I need to go look at some studies about it.
@Teeny-zj9dx ur brainwashed
@@Teeny-zj9dxthey do it’s a massive advantage in muscle fibers bone density, power and explosiveness, look up a study and they all agree. People like yourself annoy me, when you don’t research 😊
@@Teeny-zj9dxif they didn't then there would be no need for a ♂️/♀️ category in sports
@@Teeny-zj9dxlook at the real world results!! You have men failing in a sport so they decide to pretend to be women and dominate.
I'm happy to see a lot of the comments are for this! It's just not fair when it comes down to it and this needs to happen with all sports and all ages. Has nothing to do with transphobic or anti anything. It's just what's fair!
No 1 supports trans athlete, jst the elites
AMAZING PUT IT IN EVERY STATE
That's the best decision to insure fairness among athletes ...
All i wanna say is,it's about time people start acknowledge the truth ✊
Finally, this decision shouldn't even be a question. Can't wait for all sports to make this decision.
What’s shocking to me is the lack of support for these transgender athletes. How did they even get these policies implemented? They shouldn’t have EVER been allowed to compete in the first place. Frightening to think about…
Caster Semenya is not even transgender!
Insane that we had to go this far for normalcy but it's a lesson for future athletes to "stay in their lane"
Should not even be any question. They were not born women
Finally, sanity prevails
Grow up
@@TNTkeynine GET LOST
@@TNTkeynine How about you instead seeing that you are the only delusional person in the comments crying about something that SHOULD have happened.
@@TNTkeynine you lmfao 🤣
Correction to below, I meant to say that Caster Semenya grew up in a THIRD world country, and therefore did not receive appropriate care for his intersex condition.
In addition to his body, his voice is male. Caster Semenya is male, period. He should not be able to compete against women. Hormone suppression is not enough, the committee did not go far enough. If an athlete has XY genetics, and went through puberty as a male, it's too late, there's a permanent advantage. Allowing intersex athletes like Caster Semenya, who is obviously way more male than female, to compete with six month's suppression of hormones, is still not right or fair. He should not be able to compete in women's spirts, at all.
Agreed!
She is not a male. Period
This shouldn’t even be a discussion… But 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 protect the woman category at all cost!!!!!!!!!!!
Finally rules are brought in to protect women's sports 👏🏿👏🏿
Like women's sports is in dire need of protection. Stop it with your hysteria.
@@sisterdoublehappiness9714 like it's not
@@sisterdoublehappiness9714it is in need for protection and is being protected now
@@sisterdoublehappiness9714 you’re so mad women aren’t born with dicks.
@@sisterdoublehappiness9714 oven if it’s not. They don’t need mentally ill min playing against REAL females. While their only in their own mind a woman.
Because everyone else including their own body knows their a MAN.
Just because their own brain is broken an tells them something incorrect. Don’t mean level headed non broken brain people. Need to agree allow or follow that broken ass nonsense.
So no they don’t need protection no sport does. They just not do what’s fight an F peoples feelings.
They want to play as a fool. They need to do a mentally ill league of its own. Do others that don’t know who they are can play against like people.
Finally common sense ❤
Not sure what her full point was regarding the fact that most people cannot define transgender. However, most people agree that gender identity should be irrelevant for sports. Women have a human right to sports categories based on sex, biological sex.
Really get your facts right the makes have extreme advantage interma of muscle quality fiber density and then they change sex but not the muscle consistency and compete in the female category and is like doping and winning in a
I always wonder why they scream about being misgendered when they themselves have been misgendered from birth. I'd love to be a zebra with black stripes but I guess I'll be a zebra with white stripes. We are all humans in the end so who gives a damn! The chinese.
Exactly sports is a merit based system inherently. If you can run 100 m the fastest congratulations you deserve a reward. Give a reward to the slowest person all of a sudden they stop trying and just hope they will win the lottery. Disney only cares for the immediate children. Ain't no door that humans can make that would slow my dad down that day. Bunch ot pansies. Remember my first beer
Exactly. Two XX chromosomes.
I need the people who advocate that trans women are women to define what a woman is first. Then I’ll define what transgender is.
Thank you. Thank you so much.
I almost cried when I heard this news. As a woman, to live in a world where trans-women argue that their rights trump my fellow woman’s right’s is absolutely devastating. I’m so grateful that level heade people are recognizing that women’s right’s are in danger in this world. Unless you know how it feels to go to work, and keeping a straight face while bleeding for seven days, I’m sorry, but we are not competing on the same terms.
Well said!
@@TNTkeynine you are the one who needs to grow up and stop silencing real women. Take your delusion away and stop crying on tiktok of how you're a victim or oppressed when you are not.
I don't do that monthly bleeding thing ... any more.
did not think much about it either way when I did. Dogs know, other people don't.
@@TNTkeynine Fallon Fox, a transgender MMA fighter, has now broken 2 female opponents' skulls.
A man beating on women and named "Bravest Athlete" in 2020. The hate for
women is real.
Grow up. Get educated.
@@TNTkeynine Mentally ill people like you should be the one growing up.
How is this even a discussion
Kelly robinson real quiet on this rn 😂
This is so awesome!!!!!!! People are finally had enough of these guys who lose against men so they try and ruin women's sports by crossing over. I applaud women for finally standing up for your sports. Real women work hard to get to a certain level. It should not be taken away because these guys can't compete and win against men.
Wait, men are going through hormone treatments and identifying as trans...because they are losing against other men? LOL yeah okay
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Comparing intersex and trans is dumb. Intersex is biology. Has nothing to do with gender. They born like that. They didnt transition or were a male competitor at one point and female at another.
Do they have advantages yes. But it is not the same as trans.
You know what is absolutely hilarious about this trans athlete debate. You never hear about trans athletes in men's sports. That is because at the elite level of sports Men always outperform women. Just let them have their own league, or let them compete with the men.
WELL SAID!!!
@@TNTkeynine name me one trans man who has beaten men, and Ill name you 20 trans women that have beaten woman.
@@TNTkeynine Juniper Simonis, Wren Pyle, Jamie Hunter, Victoria Monaghan, Tiffany Abreu, JayCee Cooper, Michelle Dumaresq, Laurel Hubbard, Veronica Ivy, Lana Lawless, Valentina Petrillo, Natalie Ryan, CeCé Telfer, Lia Thomas, Natalie van Gogh, Kate Weatherly, Chelsea Wolfe, Jenna Lingwood, Tiffany Newell
@@TNTkeynine oops missed one Layshia Clarendon. I wont hold my breathe while you come up with one name.
@@TNTkeynine you can’t name one can you?😂😂😂😂😂
Common sense has prevailed 👏
Needs to happen on NCAA, high school and junior highs as well.
Most people agree with this ruling, but of course, the media makes it seem it’s far more controversial than it actually is.
Exactly. Common sense people who are not in some weird liberal bubble agree with this. The media, specifically American media wants to complicate things that need no complication.
Media is sick, especially the far left ones in this country!
@@xoxo20000 PLEASE stop with the politics. That clouds the issue. I vote Democrat most of the time, and I live on the West Coast, and I’ve NEVER supported biological men in women’s sports. But if a reporter were to ask you, you would make it political, whereas this transcends politics; therefore, you MUST come out of your bubble, because I know lots of Democrats who are adamantly against this issue. We’ve been hoping for such a fair ruling like this! It’s common sense based on irrefutable biology!! ❤️
@@marjorjorietillman856 you do support it. You vote for a party that is pushing this agenda 100%. You vote for them, you support this.
BORN WITH A D YOU A MAN BORN WITH A V YOU A WOMEN AINT THAT COMPLICATED
Thank you Sebastian Coe for standing up for truth and sanity! Finally someone with some common sense.
Funny… where are the former women competing with males?
They are all over the world dominating in male sports. It's just not talked about because ................ OK, that's a terrible question because you did not have enough dots behind the word funny. I now refuse to answer due to the dots.!!!!
They just need their own category and you set your own bar that other trans gender compete against. Whether you compete alone or in numbers sets the record score. I don’t see the big deal in having a trans category. Or is because they don’t want to compete against other trans. Why? Because they know I won’t win if I compete against another ‘male’ but I will if I compete against biological women.
It's not a trans lifestyle issue, it's a biologically unfair physical issue. Geez how how hard is that to understand. If a sub-group of people want to compete then start a separate organization like the Special Olympics. I'd have thought most athletes would want fair competition. How ya like it now Rachel McKinnon? The overwhelming majority disagree with you and now you won't be able to take advantage.
I hope they go back and right the wrong and award the biological women the medals they rightly won .
@Arthur Morgan not subhuman, I sould have said subset.
Still, it's not only about transgender, it's about elite intersex athletes who have both male and female sex characteristics and have been called girls or women since they day they were born. You're saying to someone like Christine Mboma or Castor Semenya who have Olympic medals, that they should compete in a special ghetto because of the way they were born.
@@jkf9167 not unlike special Olympics? There's no good answer unfortunately.
Choose from among the literally hundreds of other competitive things you can do without cheating or oppressing women. As a heavyweight adult, I can't compete in kid's karate tournaments even if I identify as being 10 years old. Plus they'd send me back to 6th grade or so if that's the case.
@@jkf9167 not old, baby turtles make it to the sea, snowflake.
I'm with Richard Dawkins on this one. When it comes to athletics (as opposed to a mental activity, like academics), your biology (sex) is what matters, not your psychology (gender). It's nice to see that these sports leagues, whose rules are determined by EXPERTS, are making well-informed decisions.
Your view is reasonable, but my understanding is that it's not Dawkins' view. He doesn't seem to believe that gender identity even exists.
@@synchronium24 well he doesn't care about it. He cares only about sex.
@@synchronium24it do not exist, they are merely social construct. Human born as a COMPLETE PACKAGE between mind and body and gradually LEARN TO ACCEPT WHAT YOU BORN TO BE as you grow up. A meaningless shortcut like unnecessary surgery and drugs do not change anything.
@@synchronium24 Why would you think gender identity exists? Have you read who is behind this theory? Have you read on Dr Money the founder of gender identity? He was a child sexual abuser who drove his two test subjects (children) into developing into mentally unstable adults who eventually committed suicide. He alone was responsible for their deaths and sexually abuse a LOT more than these two test subjects. It was a failed experiment that everyone holds up as fact.
@@SnakeSagacity People are born with body-brain dysphoria. Get with the times.
Having compassion for someone that truly struggles about who they are doesn't mean that I will lie. Not accepting truth can be unbelievably difficult, so I have no mean/cruel intension as I tell the truth - - we have no control over our gender, surgery and injections can't control truth.
Nice to see the rest of the world is not buying into this nonsense.
I am glad this ruling has finally been taken however when referring to Caster Semenya, it is not her fault she was BORN with naturally high testosterone levels!
That's the difference between a TRANS and a natural BORN person with naturally high testosterone levels!
No operation was needed for Caster Semenya to acquire naturally high testosterone levels and she should be allowed to complete AS IS!
Caster is male. He has 5-ARD which is a DSD that only affects males. Sympathy for him but he shouldn't be allowed to compete against women.
@@canonicaltom Caster was born female and raised as a female. The fact that she has a high testosterone level then other females does not make her a transgender. She is an intersex. Respect her
@@canonicaltom She* her*
@@sam15342 A trans is a trans! There is no recognition other than their original gender and if they don't want to live with it, dump them in the ocean with all the other lgbtq'rs
@@canonicaltom The fact that you want to lump Catser and label her as being a man despite the fact you KNOW that she was born as a female shows that you are part of the problem.
This shouldn’t have even happened in the first place. Even babies have different size expectations according to CDC depending if they are a boy or a girl. For the defenders of “it doesn’t matter” there are indeed small biys and big girls but that’s why they are divided in percentiles. The 99th percentile boy is bigger than the 99th percentile girl for the fact that they are different genders
This sounds really rough on both ends .
YES!!!!!
They should have never let it happen in the first place.
I recently read a news article, in the Epoch Times, about a young lady who has been devastated by transgender men. At the age
five, she became enamored with running. That was her life. As a top runner in high school, she was all set to receive a collage
scholarship, that was until transgender males entered her sport. There was no way that she could compete. The politically
correct politicians were all for transgenders and would do nothing to correct this travesty
It’s so unfair for naturally born women to compete with them. I don’t know what people are thinking nowadays. But this is a good step to the right direction. I’m just happy for all women. Pageantry should be like this as well.
If there was no unfair advantages at profession level between two genders than there wouldn't be a need to make two different sports tournaments for men and women respectfully! So it's high time there's a another category for the transgender community if they want to compete in professional level or even in school level.
Yes. Thank you.
Thanks God that I see a little bit of justice... it is not fair to be genetically men and try to compete with biological women. If they want to compete do it in a transgender competition...
If they want to compete, do it against other biological men. Do they think they aren't good enough?
I may think I'm 25, but my old fat butt is 65 and nothing I say or do can change the fact😂
It still wouldn't be fair. Lol
As a bloke, I wholeheartedly agree.
What is a “biological woman”? In English, the correct term is just woman.
I'm so happy to hear this! Women deserve to compete against real women and have an equal right to athletic success
Ok but the person on the cover is banned from woman sports and she's a woman
@@vanchenzo_Thats not a woman. Thats a man. An Aphrodire
If the Olympic committee can do this, why can't all these local school boards do the same thing.
Thank goodness.
Fair play but Semenya is not "trans", call her what you want "intersex" or whatever, she was born a female and her having a biological advantage as a female should not get her excluded from anything.
Trans women are a whole different conversation.
Love From South Africa, Caster you inspire your people!❤🇿🇦
Semenya was not BORN a female. If she was then there would be no debate about her gender and she won't have high levels of testosterone. Intersex had been called many different names over the years but the underlying concept is that the person can not be readily defined as a male or female because the the external genitalia (and sometimes also the internal sex organs) appear ambiguous. There is a well known medical condition (CAH) that causes females to produce excess testosterone and it is life threatening and requires treatment
It is the drug users that also questionable but they still manage to slip through. I get if it is biological. That is just not right to exclude someone who was born the way they are or if there but still want to do sports. But how could someone suppress hormones without drugs? Maybe they should make a drug category in sports. Do all the drugs at your own risk.
I understand the ruling but I do have sympathy for her.
Exactly. This is unfair to intersex athletes who have a medical situation
Exactly!
Its about time, needs to be in all sports.
Finally! Glad were moving in the right direction. Should have never been an issue in the first place. A naturally born woman is different from a transgender! Genetically and physically. You can can change your genitals but your bones and innate strength is different.
Castor Semenya isn’t trans…and forcing her to undergo *hormone suppression* is sooo discriminatory it’s not even funny - it’s LITERALLY sex discrimination
Amazing news for all humans.
😂😂 for sure!
trans people are humans too tho.
@@keane6 'muh tho muh'
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@BXM there is no such thing as a trans person. You are either a male or female.
@@zeenuf00 ...what?
The appropriate solution is to be exclusive. Single sex categories.
At last some common sense
Semenya is intersex.
Finally some justice for women
But the girl is intersex tho it isn’t her fault and I wouldn’t call her transgender as they labeled her….this is a condition
Finally someone had balls to do it.
No balls allowed! 😂
🤔🇿🇦 Caster Semenya was born the way she is...
The ban took far too long.
Must be a rule in every single sport at all levels...
I hope this continues with all sports and our female only areas too. Keep them away from our jails, change rooms, bathrooms, etc... ❤
It's about time....this has been so unfair to the athletes who train with little to no hope of a fair competition.
bann it straight . no more bs how much testosterone level , gone to puberty etc. just male and female thats it
I agree with this and it’s totally unfair for a guy to just put on make up and say I’m on a woman team now. Just completely unfair so I’m glad they did this
There's a video of a girl saying something like " Do you really believe someone would transition into female just to win against other women in sports?" And while I know mayority of trans athletes won't do it for that, for me the answer is yes, some people would do ANYTHING to win a competition, no matter what gender, race or whatever. Some people lack sportsmanship and morals too. And being trans doesn't just magically turn you into an ethically correct individual, just like being cis doesn't either.
I definitely believe this....
the term cis in unnecessary, but I agree.
The reasons why they do it are irrelevant.
The hard data and science do not budge to abstract ideas.