Trans hate crime law: How JK Rowling challenged police on misgendering and won
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- Опубліковано 9 тра 2024
- “It's kind of a bit sick making that suddenly we have to just swallow this whole thing that a whole other group gets to decide what it means to be a woman. So I understand Rowling’s anger about this.”
JK Rowling will not face prosecution after she made a series of posts on X calling trans women men and challenged the police to arrest her in protest of Scotland’s new hate crime laws. The author argued the Hate Crime Act places "higher value on the feelings of men performing their idea of femaleness...than on the rights and freedoms of actual women and girls."
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JK ROWLING is a hero for NORMAL people.
Aye, when there's nothing normal about JK....
she's a Witch in sheep's clothing!
no she is not, she literally hopped on the LGB bandwagon as soon as it began, like so many others despite the fact we told them it would end up like this. she is simply inconvenienced and is protecting herself, not you
She is fighting men in womens spaces. Hooray for her
@@rara3538 Don't be so ridiculous. JK is standing up for all women. I admire her greatly. She doesn't need to do what she's doing - she could have a very quiet life. However, she is using her platform for good as she, and many others, see it. You are being incredibly niaive and clearly don't know the background of this situation as what you're saying doesn't actually make any sense.
@@maxoreilly2698 Wasn't that when she came wading in uninvited to the Theist\Atheist debate that was raging all across the internet at that time, tho, was it?
She was quite deliberately fighting Christians, in church spaces, while using evil methods to do so, but hey, that was different, right?!
Her rank hypocrisy is sickening....
Transwomen are not women
I don't think trans women and biological women are the same and I don't think trans women are men either. Transgender women in Thailand use the term "Lady Boy" (or Kathoey). I think it's a wonderful term. They know they are not men, yet, they know they aren't women either. It's more in line with wearing "woman-face". Just because one feels and acts like a cat, does not make it so.
@@HorribleProgram-ew6ei Hurty worty thought police, bunch of Orwellian muppets.
@@HorribleProgram-ew6ei (Scotsman) I'm dying 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@HorribleProgram-ew6ei
John Beaton is a Transwoman. :)
@@WaldoBC The only qualification needed to be a transwo man is to be male. Ofc transwo men are men.
In humans sex is binary and immutable.
Paraphrasing Thomas Paine:
"If you are afraid to offend,
then you do not have freedom of speech.
The Scottish law against hate crime forbids stirring up hatred. Would you call that being offended? Do you actually think there is free speech in this country or there should be? Would you feel comfortable with people being able to stir up hatred against you? Have you heard of the Official Secrets Act? Libel laws? Do you think there is free speech over that? Hate does not just offend, it threatens people's safety.
That makes so little sense 🤦♀️
@@LouiseBrooksBobDefine 'hatred'.
Erm im pretty sure people say bad things about me all the time. we grew up with sticks and stones may brake my bones but words can never hurt me. You lot are absolutely pathetic wanting laws in place to stop people saying nasty words to you. Little melt@@LouiseBrooksBob
@@LouiseBrooksBob The Hate Crimes Act forbids expressing 'dislike' of someone's ideology if they are in a protected category. That is not stirring up hatred or threatening anyone's safety. Read the Act please!
I'm with JK .The problem is we have ended up with men identifying as women and going in womens changing rooms. That is out of line . Plus they want to enter womens sport. Thats dangerous. Many women have been injured.
"Many such cases"
You really think a man who identifies as a man isn’t going todo that? 😂 criminals are known for following laws you people still thinks it’s 1990
77% of sexual crimes are perpetrated by some one you know (family or neighbors), 99.9% are not transgender people. So this woman is all fired 🔥up about a problem that doesn’t exist!!!!
I'm sick to death of constantly hearing about the "Trans Community"
Then stop talking about us and leave us alone
@@moif_velocitaBit of a double edged sword, that. Being left alone would entail not asking for special privileges.
@@Hartley_Harenobody asks for special privileges the only stuff you actually see is all political grifting lol it’s there to make you angry so you agree with the other side
@@Hartley_Hare I'm not aware of Trans people asking for any special privileges - unless of course you believe that equality is a special privilege?
@@moif_velocitasurely transwomen wanting to enter women only spaces is a special privilege?
We stand with J. K. Rowling🙏
I stand with her right to have an opinion, whether I agree with it or not. We should be able to debate the facts in a civilised way.
I stand with J.K. Rowling
You name says it all please sit down before you embarrass the rest of the celts 🤦♀️
@@redwiltshire1816Are the Celts a hive mind, then?
@@Hartley_Hare you mean common sense? Yeah most of us have common sense especially when it’s being lied to by grifters
They wouldn’t dare arrest J K Rowling. It’s the small people they will go for.
Correct, mate 💯🙌
Nobody should have the right to say what they think. WoW. What kind of oppression is this ?
What she means is that nobody has the right to say something she doesn't agree with.
My heart breaks for Scotland. This law is the height of nonsense. Also this Yasmin woman is taken seriously over there? She doesn't seem to grasp the basic concept of free speech and why it is important.
If you judge by press reports the law contradicts UK and European law.
But it doesn't.
The law is fine .. pure pantomime politics from Westminster politicians and associated lackies.
Who's that Yasmin woman... is she just trying to raise the hate meter.
She's a big starmer supporter.
Yes absolutely, 5 years ago who cared about trans ,live and let live, good luck to you, but now we must use their language, woman don't have a say or screamed at if they speak, they want your kids, no women's sport or spaces, rapists are women,gender affirming care(destruction)for KIDS,what did they think would happen .trans activist's started all this ,there now being told to back off , hate it and use word like genocide against them, what a joke.
Yasmin is a race and minority agitator. The older she becomes the more ridiculous, and incoherent she is.
A very wise and well experienced lady journalist for who I have quite some respect.
I’m bitterly disappointed at Yasmin’s stance, and really shocked by her irrational dogmatism at points in this interview. She’s actually a very courageous left-wing woman. I have admired her intensely for many times publicly calling out conservative Islamic misogynistic practices like ‘modesty clothing’ (even writing a book about it), as well as denouncing Islamist extremism and daringly, the complicity of some in the Pakistani Muslim community with grooming gangs.
What makes this even more baffling, is that just a few years ago, she interviewed a left-wing ‘gender critical’ feminist, Karen Ingala-Smith, on her book Defending Women’s Spaces for A Woman’s Place UK, a feminist organisation also committed to women’s sex-based rights. It was a very good, fair interview and though she was cautious, she seemed to get it then, that silencing women on this with ‘transphobia!’ is no different from silencing critics of Islamic extremism or misogyny with ‘Islamophobia!’ However, I had no idea she’d flipped so far the other way since then. That way round is extremely rare!
I can only assume because of her now spouting absurd ‘progressive’ talking points that she’s chosen political tribalism over doing her own research, and it’s stopping her seeing her cognitive dissonance. People should look carefully at her brave past record of breaking with her tribe, and not judge her too harshly or give up hope on her. She’s taken a lot of flak for that in the past from other Muslims and ‘progressives’. I suspect she’s exhausted by that fight and has convinced herself that this stance will give her some protection on the other issues she wants to keep calling out…. and from the huge amounts of racist abuse she gets online even when not talking about race issues. I doubt it will. .
Yasemin is typical for the JK Rowling haters. She has not read a word of what JK Rowling actually wrote. Only what her haters say. JK Rowling is very reasonable in this question and the large majority likely agree with her.
Actually not true the majority actually thinks she’s a quack and these comments are actually providing many people online with free entertainment thank you 😂
@@redwiltshire1816are these vast numbers of people you claim think jk is a quack, all professional virtue signallers in their own echo chambers?
@@melmorrison1400 you just said a whole lot of nothing I’m sure the entire cast of harry potter are all political figures 🤦♀️🤡 just because you use big words doesn’t mean your right go back to American politics
@@redwiltshire1816 You don't half talk a load of bilge.
@@apollomemories7399 my half your comments are just you saying trigger words you should polish some aluminium 🤣
This is one of the dumbest conversations I have heard. Well done Ella for being sane and articulate.
Somebody needs to say very loudly that JKR's fear is not that women are at risk from trans women, but from MEN POSING AS TRANS WOMEN, something that the law facilitates. The difference is hugely significant.
Rowling no longer draws that distinction
Both are true.
You old people are really behind aren’t you? We’ve already covered this argument years ago
Trans women are still men at the end of the day and so as with men in general there will a subgroup of them who do pose a threat to women despite their female gender identity.
Yasmin's thinking is flawed. Our biologies do define us. Our bodies are who we are. ‘Women’ is a reproductive category. Women’s biology determines their need for separate categories in sport, medicine, in safe spaces for changing, prisons, refuges, government statistics, etc. But women’s biology doesn’t limit them intellectually, professionally, or socially. The feminists Yasmin is so upset about understand this distinction between definition and limitation; she obviously doesn’t. What some call ‘misgendering’ is telling the truth about someone’s reproductive category, not an act of abuse. Others can lie about reproductive categories if they want, but they have no right to expect me to lie about them, and forcing me to lie is a breach of my human rights.
Yes, our biologies do define us. Very much so. Trans people wouldn't exist at all if this wasn't true. The problem is, biology doesn't define identity
Yasmin is conflating biological reality with biological determinism. She somehow thinks that merely accepting that 'woman' is a distinct biological category, separate from 'man', that somehow means that women belong in the kitchen. Which clearly is not what anyone, least of all JK Rowling, is saying.
I agree, and that is very well expressed
@@Wendyj55 Thank you.
Very eloquently said- and I think this is the common view amongst informed individuals on this issue
The truth is not hate, and neither is criticism
They younger woman is the only switched on person in the conversation.
Well done JK Rowling for not being afraid to speak the TRUTH!
Religion isn’t a race! Unlike biology, it’s a choice.
Not if you come from parents of a certain religion.
Ye it's not a choice in puma tracky countries
@@Roadrage565. In a free society, religion is a choice. Sorry if you live in a country God forgot about.
@@JPabloRL Example: if you are born of a Jewish mother you are a Jew by Race. You may choose to practice Judaism or any other religion. Therefore you are born into specific Race that is also a Religion and you may choose to practice the Religion but cannot choose your Race. Judaism is a Race AND a Religion
@@micheleyoungblood Jewish isn’t a “race”. It’s an ethnic group, a culture, a nation, a collective society joined by similar thoughts and actions.
Not at all determined by biology.
Yasmin claims to be a feminist and yet fails to acknowledge that women are oppressed on the basis of their sex. I'm completely in agreement with Ella. Oh....and trans women are men. 😊
Biological reason isnt a crime.
Anybody has the right to be what they want and anybody has the right to disagree end of this nonsense
Maybe I missed something but I don't believe biological determinism has anything to do with this issue. The biological determinism that this woman rightly fought against was about society forcing certain roles, limits and value on to women because of their biology. This modern trans-activism wants to eliminate biology from what a woman is, these are not the same things.
Also, let's address what this law's real intention is: it's a blasphemy law wrapped in a veneer of a hate crime law. I guarantee that if this law stands in a year or so maybe a little longer the majority of cases will be about religious beliefs primarily based on opposition to Islam.
I've noticed this about Yasmin on recent issues I've heard her talking about, she's gone bonkers!
She’s always been bonkers. I don’t understand why she’s given anny air time!
Ah yes THOUGHTCRIMES. How 1984!
The law itself is ridiculous, it is poor in terms of written law as it is impossible to control
Haven't seen Yasmin for ages.
As reassuringly nutty as ever.
agree! 😅
Can’t watch any more of her drivel
Whose? Rowlings?
@@moif_velocita Do you see her on screen?
@@moif_velocita the author of the Harry Potter books
@@denisbarry958 😘💕
@@moif_velocita You might be a tool, but you don't have to waive it about in public. You know exactly who was talking drivel.
30:38 'As a Muslim man' he claims to have experienced 'racism'. What race is Muslim again?
Yes, the same applies to Jews. The Jewish faith is not a race - anyone can become a Jew.
Middle eastern? Or did you forget about the Middle East?
Muslim is a religious category isn’t it?
:).... seems to have confused people this!
Good point however!! Muslims are all races but you bet they will use this law against critics of islam.
@@redwiltshire1816so middle east is a race? Whoosh wow you are thick
I remember Jan Morris too, Jasmine. I remember the reporting when she transitioned. It was rather sensational, to be sure, but soon died down because Ms Morris kept her head down and simply got on with her life. She was a wonderful writer. She was modest, and unassuming, and got on with her life in a quiet and professional manner. She was accepted without question pretty much everywhere as what she wanted to be: a professional and talented woman. She did not shove her trans nature nor her sexuality down anyone's throat. She did not scream at very high decibels, "I AM TRANS, and what are you going to do about it?" She did not declare she was a woman (while still hedging her bets by keeping her male genitalia) because she wanted to win sports medals in women's sports that she was incapable of winning in the men's sports. She did not cynically declare she was a woman (keeping the male genitalia) to receive favourable treatment in prisons. She went through years of great difficulty to do a proper transition because she felt she was in the wrong body. Therein lies the difference between Ms Morris and many (not all, by a long shot) trans people and their defenders today. They are strident, arrogant, deliberately confrontational, and very, very annoying. If they were to shut up, and just go about their business as whatever they want to be accepted as, very few people would have a problem with it. It's the stridency and the unnecessary in-your-face confrontational attitude that makes people angry; not the transition itself.
Bro wrote an entire essay in yappanes 😂
Jan Morris' daughter has written about how unpleasant her father was.
@@herbertlongfellow7702
Bet he had nuffin on my Dad, see i used to work 18hrs a day down mill for 2p a week and when i got 'ome, my Dad would cut me in two wi' bread knife then dance on my grave singing, 'hallelujah'!!!
Now you try telling that to the kids today and they won't believe ya, uh-uh. :P
JK Rowling should be given the highest award we have. A great woman.
Freedom of speech DOES allow me to abuse.
Proving how useless it is
The definition of 'abuse' is very elastic.
Anytime someone judges me for being a straight white male from now on, the first thing I'll do is check if they're Scottish 😂
Is that a common problem? What are the circumstances that happens? (Genuine question)
@AndreS_22246 jeez, you need to get out more mate.
@AndreS_22246 it's happened a handful of times, only ever online. It's happened twice during discussions around females safety in the street. I have a wife and 2 young daughters but even that excludes me from the discussion apparently, because I'm of the demographic most likely to be the source of danger, despite me talking sense.
@@real-lomas-chenko the violent trans activists are pretty bad towards women.
Better still, Scottish of Pakistani origin. I'd be more comfortable with that speaking as a straight white male Scottish person myself.
The lack of any logic in support of this new law is alarming. The first lady suggested they had thought it through, but the fact that they need to do a "working group" to see if women need protection suggests otherwise. Baffling that this made it into law. And on April 1st too.
@1:21 - you have fought against something your entire life...without understanding what it is? "Biological determinism" is the idea that *human behaviour* is directly controlled by an individual's genes (nature over nurture). However the categorisation of individuals into male and female - across the animal and plant kingdoms - is not "biological determinism" in any sense of the term. Rather it is simply a description of observable biological characteristics with regards to how an individual passes on genetic material for reproduction. "male and female" in this sense are simply a biological reality found across many species. Saying something like "everyone's mother is female and everyone's father is male" is not about sexism, social constructs, or determinism. It's simply acknowledging the basic observable biological reality. What you are implicitly arguing for is so spurious, anti-feminist, and anti-scientific, it is risible - the idea that being a woman is about "clothes, hair and makeup" coupled with a "feeling".
Shouldn't adults have enough self respect to 'cope' with someone's opinion of them? Being 'offended' is a choice, surely? Dangerous waters we are in globally. Governments are enemies of the people.
Yasmin, you need to do a bit more reading and listening. Our bodies do define us. It doesn’t mean we are inferior to men, just different. Women need accommodations made for them in order to safely navigate the world. Most men are not sex offenders or rapists, but you can be sure that those men who mean us harm will use the opportunity that this law will afford them to act with impunity. Wake up Yasmin. Men and Women are different, but equal in value.
I think Yasmin needs to be careful - misquoting JK Rowling. JK DID NOT say that all trans women are rapists. That could be classed as defamation of character. Coming from a so say feminist, it's a disgrace.
It’s unbelievable what is happening in Scotland, it’s literally 1984 being used as an instruction manual.
All this talk that it's not a crime, KJK has been arrested in England and questioned for stating biological fact and for being, I quote, "being untoward about p*dophiles." The only reason no-one arrested JKR is because she's rich and famous. This will end up happening in Scotland now.
"I've fought all my life against the view that our bodies define us." Well - yes, they define your gender. Duh.
That women has no sence. She wants the law because it suits her. Not a thought for the other people.
I appreciate the host’s questions but his bias towards adopting a dogmatic taxonomy just so people at large can talk about LGBTQ issues is terribly narrow minded. It’s like saying families have to agree to rules of etiquette before engaging in a candid dinner conversation. Rules about what words can or cannot be used becomes the conversation which steals attention from real topics.
Dump the law and get that dictator out .
What's under a Scotsman's kilt? An ancient question, but the modern answer is "Nothing"
And there’s no provision for hate crimes against women - misogyny rules still!
That is only because they cannot define what is a woman without destroying their own argument.
What is the end game? Do all groups get a name and "protected status" except for straight white men? It's all just special pleading and it's really divisive. None of this is helping anybody.
Olly. The problem with the new law in Scotland is blindingly obvious. It criminalises what so-called hate speech, and it sets a very lax standard about what hate speech actually is.
The threshold is NOT defined. It is up to the individual police officer and given that they are all proven half wits with two hours of training on this. there is no guarantee just what they are going to do.
If she started calling everyone a man and sir does it really require jail? It’s insane!
Using language as a weapon and an argument is a bad strategy. Sex is a biological definition and a pronoun is usually used in the third person so has little to do with the subject. This whole argument is disingenuous.
No sure who the interviewer was at the beginning of this conversation but he was annoying me. He doesn’t understand the scientific fact that “trans women “ are not biological women. This is why people are getting upset
Are these people totally disingenuous?
This trans issue "pump-up" is really the tail wagging the dog. I don't know why this has become such a media obsessed issue in the West. Get over it guys, Let's have some sensible attention on issues that affect everybody. That reminds me... I haven't seen "Priscilla Queen of the Desert" for ages. If the Aussies can make a non vindictive light hearted joke about men in dresses, maybe we can see this for what it is and move on
Grrrr our bodies define us when we are SA'd
I love the barnacles analogy. Humza Yousaf should have removed every single barnacle off the ship that Nicola Sturgeon left. That's what a strong leader does.
It's one thing to fight against the idea that because a person was born a woman and therefore should follow a certain course, that's feminism. Feminism isn't pretending men can become women.
J K Rowling never said that Jasmine, but then this woman has always damned without evidence. Poor Jasmine overshadowed by JK and hey big notice we are defined by our biology
From the start, the whole trans thing was a wedge to hammer in to split the rock of customs of free expression. Breaking such strong social customs is the hard part.
And once the social custom of free expression has been broken, destroying free expression legal protections is straightforward. And inevitable. Nor will it take long.
Really the core principle of freedom of expression isn't "the right to be offensive" - rather it is the ability to speak truth, especially in the face of oppressive forces trying to dictate what is true. As Orwell perfectly put "Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows." The core issue in this debate is that we essentially have a very small minority of people who insist that "2+2=5 for me" - and who want criminalise anyone who doesn't agree with them. Everyone's free to believe anything they want - but the idea that you can criminalise someone for saying "a biological male is a man" is wholly analogous to criminalising someone for saying "two plus two make four".
1 you cant be arrested if you didn't commit a crime in Scotland, she was abroad.
2 she didn't break the law and given her lawyers reputay, she must have known it.
Good publicity mind you.
Our biologies are fixed and immutable. Scientific fact. I am a Caucasian but cannot be a Chinese and would not expect people to accept me as such. Indeed, if I ‘identified’ as black, many would accuse me of cultural appropriation. Although our sexes are fixed, our social choices about what to wear, how to behave, what professions we choose, what political parties we support , indeed our basic values, are all a matter of individual preference. There are fundamental biological differences between the two sexes but culturally people should not be pressured to behave in a certain way, (like what has happened to women in particular in the past). People should be happy with themselves as individuals and their own personalities, values and preferences- without the need to ‘transition’ to the opposite sex, and often undergoing hormonal ‘treatment’ and brutal surgery rendering them infertile. Too many children are being indoctrinated that they are in the ‘wrong’ body , simply because they feel they don’t conform with traditional views of how they should behave and what their interests should be.
The UK is cooked.
at 2:10 Yasmin says that 'we have statistics now that Trans community is more likely to be discriminated against'. I couldn't really find any credible statistics, other than people like her making this claim. Does anyone have the published statistics on this?
Just a law forcing people to participate in a lie.
J.K Rowling 💯💯💯! Voice of logic and reason. Truth is not hate! True feminist.
Yes because nothing breaks gender stereotypes like playing dress up. There's a reason most of her feminist friends disagree with her
What’s misgendering? Calling a man a woman and a woman a man?
Is that illegal?
🌧☀️🌈Let the rainbow be a natural phenomenon like it is a rainbow between photons and water, it has nothing to do with sexuality. This is so annoying.🫤😤🙄
What is a “reasonable” person?? What does “gender” mean?
May be it's just our biology that's defined by our biology?
Yasmin has wilfully misunderstood what JKR is saying. What about women and girls single sex spaces.
I thiink you'll find more people are sick of you Yasmin than JK.😂
"Better protected"
No? The police are already failing to answer calls because of how overwhelmed they are.
'Nobody should be able to say whatever we think'. Thanks Yasmin for saying the quiet bit out loud.
What a lovely highly articulate young lady.
Can Jasmin never get anything right? She spent years telling us Nicola Sturgeon was a great leader and role model and she now backs this nonsense from Yousaf.What planet does she live on?
Yasmin: I once shared a bathroom with a trans woman and I wasn’t scared. Therefore it follows that there are no problems.
More police, more surveilance, more fear, they LOVE it.
Jesus, the male interviewer is so ignorant about the trans issue and impacts on women spaces that he is an obstacle to the debate.
The host doesn't realise they are demanding the title trans is dropped. Court cases, the census now records men as women, NOT trans women.
The INSANITY seems to be spreading
SNP will fall.... guaranteed ....
No one has the right not to be offended. Feeling offended is a feeling. Free speech has to include hate speech or speech that makes you feel bad. Didn't we learn this as children, sticks and stones will break you bones but names will never hurt you.?
It is our attitude toward free thought and free expression that will determine our fate. There must be no limit on the range of temperate discussion, no limits on thought. No subject must be taboo. No censor must preside at our assemblies.... not Humza Yousaf or anyone else.
..and as far as a persons beliefs.. You can't be told to respect someone's beliefs. You can only respect a belief you believe is worth respect. No matter how bad the person feels!.
There is an issue with some using the Trans ideology to promote themselves and to use it for access to young females, and those are the people JK is calling out, you can’t dump all that at attacks at her door
When did feminism mean to side with men over real women?
Why can’t the Scottish government allow people to be honest with what they believe, as long as I am respectful why should I be forced to speak in a way I do not philosophically believe in.
My god what a pathetic world we live in...where telling the truth will get you imprisoned
Yasmin doesn't like freedom of speech, yet she enjoys said freedom whilst saying her views on a public radio show.
"Nobody should be able to say what they think..."
Yes they should Yasmin, thats freedom of speech and its the same freedom you're using to say what you think. If you don't like what someone says, don't listen and move on with your life. Freedom of speech is an absolute across the board.
I may not like some else and their rhetoric, but thats their right and JK Rowling has that right like anyone else to express her opinion... and I agree with her 🤷♂️
Just keep talking and interrupting each other. Brilliant.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
This woman in purple is the one who is being offensive.
As incredibly happy as I am that JK won against the trans madness my question is was it because she's right or is it because she's massively rich and massively famous?
These extremists have undone decades of progress
Miss Gender JKR herself . I don’t think the feminists are saying people are defined by their biology just that their sex is .
And yes .. this woman stirs up nonsense., am with JK Rowling., what has happened to ALL the ones who have threatened jk Rowling ?
THE Love your Muslim Bill . Who benefit from this?
BS Scottish law that means nothing
There will be a very low bar to charge people
I am shocked to see asmin Ali bhai brown I thought she left this country but sorry to say she’s still moaning and growling on and on I hear they have cheap flights to her home country Uganda just saying
"Many of my close friends are in that camp" 😂 Who'd have thunk it?😂😅
Yasmin was saying they're in the same 'camp' as JK. You get that right?
This woman Yasmin .. said everyone who isn’t vaxed should wear a badge ! I remember her well ., she needs to do her research instead of listening reading the BS !
If you say “transwomen” instead of women,it makes men appear as if they are a subset of women. It muddies the water and confuses people.
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