Science behind kickflip weight distribution - Shift weight before jumping!
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- Опубліковано 4 лип 2024
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In this video, we study the science behind weight distribution of kickflips.
Have you ever had this experience that you find your board land on the heel side as you are practicing flicking? In my case, my board always landed on the heel side but every kickflip tutorial seemed to have said that I needed to jump straight upward like ollies. What's really causing the difference? Can anyone explain it scientifically? Let's see if we can.
I just hope this video can help you figure out what could be causing your problem.
So please take a moment and try to study this in detail.
I'm trying to eliminate subjectivity from my explanation as much as possible by referring to scientific and physics theories. Please use my 3D models to solve your "why."
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This is the channel I was looking for. I can't do any trick unless Its explained to me like this. Hell, I couldn't even drive a stick shirt car until I learned the mechanics of when and why it has to shift. I need things explained in depth before it clicks in my brain. This channel will get bigger. People always ask questions that the person doing a tutorial can't explain. But you do. Keep it up and this channel will blow up for you. Skateboardimg is getting bigger and bigger these days. Ppl are hungry for this kind of knowledge to the point it frustrates them bc they can't find it on UA-cam. Good work.
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I've been working on my kickflip for a while now. I've never heard any of this advice before. Can't wait to try it out. Thanks
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I'm very happy you put out a video showing the weight distribution of kickflips. Everyone's always asked me " How do you kickflip so good" and I've literally told everyone " You have to shift your weight backwards " and it's worked wonders for everyone. No one talks about this online but now there's this video :).
Finally someone who understands me. I’m trying my best to explain things as objectively as possible but it’s being really tough. I’d really appreciate it if you could correct me if I say something wrong in the future videos.
@@whythetrick Remember dude you're never going to make everyone happy, it's impossible. Just put out your videos and the people who like them will watch them, forget everyone else.
after spending *so much* time trying to kickflip i finally landed one a week after watching this video!! thank you so much!!
When I do my kickflip I jump straight up and my board flips just fine, doesn’t land heel side
I think yours is doing that because of foot placement, your back foot is on the pocket toe side and it’s causing your board to slightly twist heel side. Try popping on the center of the tail and maybe it won’t happen as much!
I think the board goes heelside more for you because of a few factors. You’re popping off the toeside of the nose, as well as opening your front shoulder. Both will affect the natural trajectory of your flick. Also, I think you can try thinking of the flick as pushing the edge of the nose under itself towards toeside to create the flip motion, rather than just sliding out off the side (sorry if this sounds confusing 😅). It seems help me even out the momentum of the flick so the board doesn’t go heelside quite as much.
Hey man! Would you make an analysis of consistent perfect Ollie’s?
the shift your weight backwards tip helped a ton
Yo these tips on kickflips really help me understand how the trick works I never thought about jumping back a bit bc when I do then stationary I get the constant and I didn’t take into mind that it lands behind the original popping point so ima take dat into consideration when trying rolling hopefully I get it
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Just wanna say this video and your other kickflip video finally helped me start landing kickflips consistently. When I started shifting my weight back, the board would finally start staying under me so I could put both my damn feet on!!! thank you!!!!
You are very welcome!
I studied this last night and did a kickflip today! Thank you so much. I'm beyond grateful ❤️
ive been waiting so long for someone to do this videos. i had a lot of trouble learning kickflips by myself, and when i watched every other tutorial none of them spoke about these little things that makes the trick happen. im really happy someone did this, thanks. btw i have a lot of insights about kickkflips, especially about the differents ''types'' of kickflips people do and the common mistakes about each one. i have no intention on making a video myself or anything. i just want to talk to you and share what i have learnt maybe you could give good use of this info to help other skaters.
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Can you do one on pressure flips. It seems perfect for a physics breakdown
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Really good video I feel like I’m the only one struggling with this problem
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That's what I do....heelside down before u snap
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if you pull your back foot back into an almost front shuv position but kick straight down like an ollie it will help keep it right below you (no board shifting behind) and pop higher. you may hav to adjust your body position a little a keep your front foot a tiny bit more centered
a bit like he does here in the first slomo clip ua-cam.com/video/jC47GDAPyOs/v-deo.html
This is going to go big one day!!
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I do find most of the time when I kickflip my back foot toe drags like crazy, I'm gonna try this weight shit thank you!
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can you make a heelflip and 10 videos!! would really appreciate this content!!
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Thanks
Like others have pointed out, it's the shoulders. Look at say, a Tom Penny or Reynolds kickflip. It's straight. Look at Alexis Sablone. She kickflip front 5050s hubbas. Love your channel though. Keep it up.
A clean kickflip doesn't "roll over" to the heel side. In _reality_ , the physics are different from what you say here, because the timing of the initial start of the flick and whether or not it starts simultaneously with the pop is extremely important here. If you flick 'late', more _after_ the pop was fully initiated, you will have a more 'stationary' flip rotation, in the air, instead of doing this "roll over" to the heel side. The laws of physics do not predict the flick to be a main force, always guiding the board heelside actually. In your own example comparing take off and landing positions 2:00 it is _extremely_ obvious there's some serious leaning back before you pop. It's so extreme it looks like you're making a small turn into leaning back and _then_ you pop. There's no way your body barely moves there. It actually moves a lot, in terms of weight distribution. There's a reason why the more clean kickflips almost look like the flick is 'going behind you'. It has to do with the skater keeping their chest hanging above the toeside of the skateboard. In those kickflips you can pretty much stay exactly at the spot you took off from when popping the tail.
By the way, this is similar to how a beginner pop shove it tends to involve a 'jump forward' to catch up with the board, when a pro doing a properly scooped pop shove it can keep it exactly underneath them. Same thing for tre flips. If you have to jump 3 feet to catch up with the board in a tre flip, you're not doing it right. It's still a tre flip, it still counts. But a proper one does not involve a massive shift in weight distribution and jumping in any other direction but up.
Another video idea is a breakdown of why luan Oliveira's kickflips are so high and clean. It's a mystery
I’d do that if only I could Kickflip like him…haha
Here before a million
I’ll make it happen! Thanks for the comment!!
Do hard flips please
Is it possible to change variables within the model? I have a theory about center of mass vs center of gravity within the squat stance, and how they relate to the kickflips beginning shoulder position. The theory stated/shown here is correct to an extent, but at this movements peak the energy transfers to the skateboard itself and invites unnecessary force that has to be overcome as gravity begins to pull the body down. Love the content, been kickflipping for 25 years and have always wondered the physics behind it. I can send you a few videos that show you what I mean, and which variables could be adjusted.
Interesting. Would you mind uploading them on UA-cam and sending me links? Thanks!
You 100% go heelside when you kickflip.
That's why kickflip backside 50-50 is easier on a ledge than frontside or even popping into the backside 50-50 sometimes.
This is the exact problem with my kickflips and heelflips, I’m trying to lean heel side, jump backwards, and lift my heels but it took me all day to land a clean kick flip, how do I jump back further and more? It feels like I’m jumping backwards but I’m not that much
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Hi sir! my respects for your genius work, I have a question, do your models allow to change the tricks to show them on goofy stance? that would be dope Greetings!
hi thanks for the comment.
swapping between regular/goofy stance is not available yet.
I will consider developing one if I get to receive similar requests. thanks for the input anyway!
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Do a heel flip with counter clockwise foot wrap around the board is it possible or a one foot fakie manual to bigspin? I almost got them both but have tried like giger times and haven't stuckem
And today we are studying a trick Scien-ty-facly Orz
My problem is I can barely get the thing to flip around half the time and I feel like whenever I change my board as in the board brand my muscle memory is completely gone I had a real skateboard board which I learned kickflips on and than I got an almost and everything thing felt entirely off and ever since I haven't been able to do as good as the other board I guess I should keep my setups consistent too but I have hard time believing it's the board or product when in reality it's just my lack of skill
I kick straight forward, using force properly I'm able to flip the board as if it is on a swivel.
Usually people land in the back with one foot, you are the first one to jump in front of the board. But good work.
Please give it a shot and give me a feedback.
Once you know how to flick while landing in front of your board, landing with both of your feet is not that different.
@@whythetrick I can already kickflip.
This is a great for understanding as I can't land consistently. However Is it possible that your shoulders are rotated facing forward causing the board to shift more to the heels side than when a pro does it?
I think it is possible.
1. Opening shoulders probably let my body weight shift to the heel side more.
2. With my body weight on the heel side, as I pop, I eventually would push the tail of my board toward the toe side.
3. Then, the tail becomes a sort of "pivot point," and the nose will correspondingly be swung to the heel side.
Nonetheless, this does not mean you can't kickflip with your shoulders opened. It's not like I recommend it to you, but at least you don't have to be worried too much about it.
@@whythetrick thanks for the prompt response. I really think your channel has huge potential in teaching people who prefer this kind information rather than the usual "just commit" advice.
You are very welcome.
Please come back anytime.
Check out Luan's kickflip, he does it exactly like Whythetrick explains: ua-cam.com/video/6PSbWxnW730/v-deo.html
@@whythetrick in a way you might be teaching people bad habits here.
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Hehe thanks.
Will be posting more how to clips. Let me know if you have any preference please.
Same thought. Saw this video and assumed this guy had thousands of subscribers.
Great channel! Quick question regarding both ollies and kick flips. When crouching down before the raise + pop, the hips/butt are rotated frontside (6:43), and the butt is "pointing backward", but when you land the hips/butt are not rotated frontside (6:47), and the butt is "pointing heelside". Why, when and how does this happen and is it necessary? :)
This is by far the MOST excellent question.
Quite an insight.
I was planning to talk about this in the future but you are already there.
OK, here're reasons why my butt rotates.
- Simply put, it's a matter of action and reaction.
- My front foot goes to the heel side as I flick.
- By the time my front foot flicks, my entire body's in the air.
- In order for my front foot to be able to go to that direction in the air, there needs to be an offsetting force.
e.g.
In obstacle race, they need to lower their upper bodies when they jump over hurdles. ACTION AND REACTION. By lowering their upper body, they can elevate their lower bodies.
In kickflips, similar things happen.
As you flick your front foot toward one direction, there needs to be a sort of reaction.
@@whythetrick Do you mean that your hips/butt need to be rotating from frontside to neutral to allow your front foot to "rotate"/kick/move from neutral to frontside? Does the same reasoning apply for the ollie, but then your front foot needs to move forward to level out the board, rather than move "frontside" to flip the board?
>Do you mean that your hips/butt need to be rotating from frontside to neutral to allow your front foot to "rotate"/kick/move from neutral to frontside?
Yes, I do mean it.
>Does the same reasoning apply for the ollie, but then your front foot needs to move forward to level out the board, rather than move "frontside" to flip the board?
This is also correct.
When they do boned ollies, for example, they lower their front foot and their backfoot rises in reaction to the movement of their front foot.
It's your muscle memory and pristine technique. Remember it's all mathematics, including you. You are a variable. People Subconsciously turn their shoulders, or position their feet incorrectly without knowing it.
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By board lands toe side
You could be jumping too far off to the heel side. Any video I could see?
@@whythetrick none on my UA-cam but how do I stop jumping that way
idk man i think that your kickflips might straighten up the more you do them be cause thay theory you have can apply but on a profesional skateboarder kickflip
my 360 flips go at least 3 feet in front of me but it feels like it stays in one place.
How do you Treflip? Do you flick hard?
@@whythetrick yeah I learned to tre 22 years ago and I've always told people that you really need to flick as hard as you scoop.
@@whythetrick another really important thing is the way you're leaning. if you learn to lean heelside as you flick it makes it easier.
@@whythetrick were you being sarcastic? lol
don’t stand with your chest facing forward, keep good posture, flick forward not diagonally.
Thanks for the comment. Mind sharing why you think so?
@@whythetrick after spending about 2 months trying to get my kickflips
locked I changed my technique almost completely. obviously the technique exists in your head and when executing you come as close as possible to what i just said. no offence man but your kickflips look like ass and they look like that because your chest is totally facing forward. so basically i just watched pros doing perfect kickflips and i realised. when you flick all with your foot more horizontal and less diagonal or vertical you guide your board in the right direction plus you get more drag for higher pop. trust me change your technique im no physics major i’m just some dude that got a result.
ua-cam.com/video/cC7VEqn-mUM/v-deo.html
@@whythetrick I think staying with your shoulders as parallel to the board as possible while popping and flicking (bc popping is very important when kickflipping) allows your pop to be straight up, and straight down. As well as it makes your flick direct right off the edge of your board (right before your board begins to curve). Doing these things keeps the board under you more. For a great example watch Maurio McCoy Or Franky Villani’s kickflip
@@whythetrick ua-cam.com/video/KmzpoXSAoe4/v-deo.html
he kicklips pretty much exactly the way i’m trying to describe
Your back foot is in the pocket. Most people have it in the center of the tail.
Most advanced skaters do their kickflip straight without jumping back beacuse their flick dosent carry the board back like your dose
Thank you for your insight!
I was waiting for different perspectives like yours.
My contents definitely have room for improvement and might contain inaccurate information. It is your voice that allows me to correct it.
May I know exactly where I can find the kickflip you mentioned in your comment?
Bro smh🤦♂️
Dude your board always goes heelside because your SHOULDERS are ridiculously open for some reason. Most people's kickflips tend to go backside if anything, which is toeside, because they don't open up, because you SHOULDNT open up on a kickflip
This is the exact problem with my kickflips and heelflips, I’m trying to lean heel side, jump backwards, and lift my heels but it took me all day to land a clean kick flip, how do I jump back further and more? It feels like I’m jumping backwards but I’m not that much
This is the exact problem with my kickflips and heelflips, I’m trying to lean heel side, jump backwards, and lift my heels but it took me all day to land a clean kick flip, how do I jump back further and more? It feels like I’m jumping backwards but I’m not that much
Leaning on the heel side helped fix the problem, and also lifting both my heels to get a clean land helped to land clean.