Hydraulic Valve Adjustment THE EASY WAY!
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- Опубліковано 3 лют 2019
- I'll show you how to adjust your hydraulic valves or lifters the easy way! This is a very easy method that never fails. This valve adjustment technique works on essentially any engine with a hydraulic flat tappet or roller lifter. It's not make specific and will work on Chevrolet, Ford, Dodge, etc.
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Finally, a how to video using layman's terms. Everyone else wants to get all technical and make this a thousand times more difficult than it really is. I tried their way and I still had clatter. Tried this way and just kept going thru until they were tight.
@@lacidrainl5192 I still had issues. I finally realized I needed to ditch the clapped out roller tip rockers that previous owner installed and replace with factory stamped ones. Also put in the new push rods that came with the kit. All is good now. This channel has given me so much more confidence to get in there and tackle stuff I used to shy away from.
@@honkylips69your name cracked me up lol
@@Sir_Catnip Thank you Sir!!!
I’ve been watching Derek for years now and went back and watched all the videos he’s posted and honestly he is my favorite Content Creator. No matter what’s going on in the world or in my life anytime I see a video is posted I watch it. I’m not one for wanting to meet those that I enjoy watching because I know they aren’t the same off camera. But It would be an absolute honor to meet Derek. If you see this Derek I am glad to have been apart of your journey and I believe you deserve everything you have and more. You have worked so hard for it. Congratulations on 1.5 Million and many more to come! 🎉🎉
Brother I feel exactly the same… this dude is a inspiration, I’ve always wanted a son so that I could have a relationship like Derek has with his boys. But I actually just bought a 74 Squarebody k25 camper special with a 383 stroker and a 700R4 and a custom adapted NP205 transfer case on-er and boy I’ll tell you what…. I took her out front of my suburbian household and gave-er a good ol floggin, popped that sucker in two wheel low and roasted the 35” mud terrains and whelp….. I think I collapsed a few lifters and possibly ruined the cam…. She’s a knockin like a good ol Jehovah’s Witness, so I’m watching this here video to get some tech tips cause I’m about to replace all that junk. Thanks to VGG for being the go to! We love you guys!!
I’ve put off replacing my valve seals for a year because I didn’t know how to do this.😵. Derek is a national treasure!
Says a lot about a guy when he posts such a good video and 5 years later I’m returning to it to help with my LT1 rebuild.
Thanks Derek. For all you do
I remember when this came out
I’ve never done anything like this then
And here I putting new heads on a sbc for the first time watching a video I watched 5 years ago not knowing what the fuck he was doing
I was just like “car talk=cool”
My first boss taught me this method. I was fresh out of tech school and knew everything/nothing. I had trouble believing it could work, but it does.
This method works. You sir are a jedi
😎👍
What about after you turn the crank a full turn and the rockers are loose again?retighten them?
@@151bradhatt Yes
@@151bradhatt you have to go at least 2 full turns, every 90° of rotation, adjust whatever is loose!
Huuuuuuge thank you! Iv been dickin around for a year with the valves in my 289 and this method has resulted in the best running engine Iv ever had!! THANK YOU!! As a fellow Minnesotan keep the rubber on the road.
Just used this method and worked perfectly! Thanks for passing on info that I will pass on to my little ones.
This is the perfect method for a simple guy like myself. Never seen this before, thanks for the tip!
A guy has been watching your channel for quite some time. I’m building my first motor and I’m installing the final bits. Thank you for this! Every other video I found wanted me to attend Harvard or get a digical degree. Appreciate you.
This worked magnificently! Went thru it two full rotations and set them 1/2 turn each and BAM! Fired up like a new one. Thanks for the lesson
Awesome how a guy keeps it simple and helps others!!!
You, sir, are a shadetree genius.
I've been around small block chevys for over 30 years, and have NEVER seen or heard of that method! This proves that you'll always learn something new! 😉👍
Do you spin the pushrod till it can't spin anymore or till there is tension. Which one?
Very slightest touch. Cant move up or down but no pressure,that is zero lash
@@ViceGripGarage thanks man
Have you pred soaked or primed the lifters before or are they dry?
@@ViceGripGarage but they still got to spin right
I learned that years ago my dad didn't teach me jack so I had to depend on the old hot rodders around the house to show me the tricks ......good stuff Derek love your show
Thanks Todd
Hey Derek! I saw this method before on other videos but no one explains it as plain straightforward as You. Thank You.
It's about 30 degrees and snowing here in Germany, so a guy will go and try this on his 460 in the driveway.
Your way is without a doubt- THE EASIEST WAY EVER!!!!! I went 2 full revolutions just to be sure, but the 90,90,90,90 was all it actually needed! Super easy!!!! Thanks!!!!!!!
Glad it worked
Do you have to pre soak the lifters
@jimmytheriot8978 no
Had to come back here and say thank you for making it simple to do and understand, absolutely worked perfectly on my Chevy 350
I followed your method to valve adjustment when rebuilding my 305... it worked like a charm!!! Thank you
This WORKED GREAT! Thanks so much. I tried at least 3 other techniques and still had issues. Tried this and the start started and ran after sitting for over a year with valve timing issues.
Wow... I am about to do my 1st time adjustment on my 1st F150 pickup ever. This makes complete sense to me. I am gonna do it this way. Thanks for the insight and technique.
Derek.... you're amazing! I use a variation of this method on my motorcycle. Dont use timing Marks anymore or anything. Literally throw her on a stand in 5th gear, roll the tire and as soon as they drop off the lobe I gauge, adjust and keep going. Works like a charm
My 90 K5 was blowin smoke on startup. After watching this i had the courage to change all the valve seals on the 350. Keep up the great videos, you never know who actually needs to see them!
Getting ready to put heads on my old work truck this weekend. I work on tractors and farm equipment I’ve set a bunch of solid lifters but never hydraulic thanks for the help love your channel
By far one of the best vids I've watched on YT. Easy to understand and works great! Outstanding video!
With or without a cold beverage!
Trying this method on my 83 bronco tomorrow, very simplistic 👍🏼
I’ve watched your videos for months, mostly for fun. Until I had a rocker arm break in my Huskee lawnmower and the pushrod came loose. Thanks to you, I knew how to find zero lash and preload. Thank you... you saved me money!
Thanks for making it so simple. Enjoy the vids, keep up the good work!
Your dad taught you - you're reaching your kids. That's GOLD. We need more of it.
Thanks Gary
@@ViceGripGarage Yes Derek , with you teaching your kids the way you do they will be way ahead of the game as adults .
@@bobdavis3389 They will be driving electric cars as adults and wont have valves.
This is the same method my Father taught me when I was about 14, I am 36 now. I never forgot it and have always had great success with it!
Nice memorie
A year ago. Derek was so serious and no clowning around. He's really got a personality now! Fun no matter! Good job feller!
That is a super simple way of adjusting hydraulic lifters! I am in debt to you sir! I’ve never thought of it that way. Thank you.
Nothing short of genius! Thanks.
Best video I have ever seen for valve clearance. Thank you so much. You eased my fear.
I’ve been a big fan for over a year. This made me a bigger fan. I had someone put sugar water in my gas tank last week. I caught it, cleaned my tank but didn’t pull plugs to get water out, started it but it blew the head gasket. Never went this far in repair in my 15 years since getting my license but I could never afford to pay someone to fix my vehicles. I got it put together till the point of valve adjustment and this is by far the most helpful vid I’ve seen for it. Thank you Derek!
Well, that was the last one I needed to watch. I've now watched all episodes of VGG. Great contact. Love your sense of humor. I'm looking forward to more episodes! Hopefully you will get enough followers you can quit your day job and do this full time, that would be awesome!
That sure would be awesome! Here's hoping
Awesome video, I am rebuilding my first Holden (Australia) v8, and I wasn't 100% on adjusting the rockers....you Sir and this video are fantastic. Thank you 🙏
There's a screamin' little 308 in an Aussie movie called Acolytes. Curious if you've seen it? Btw, movie ain't for the faint-hearted.
I'm building my first 350 now for a 86 Monte Carlo SS. I always look for VGG videos first and this one is gold. I was intimidated with doing the valve adjustments but i was able to follow along with this and got it done in a couple hours. Can't wait to finish up and fire off my first engine build. Thanks VGG. I love the channel.
I gotta say Man, You definitely drew me in with your explanation and Then story about your Dad. My Grandpa always did it that way to the point . When its done its done. You Rock Brother!
Hey, Vice Grip Garage! Thanks a lot for the info, I just used your valve adjustment method on my 1973 Ford 300 6 cylinder. Now if the carburetor would just get here I will be on the road again! : )
Love that motor !
That is the exact same way my dad taught me how to adjust hydraulic lifters and like you, I have been doing it this way since. Never fails me.
Thank you for keeping it simple! Makes me less nervous about doing it.
Thank you , you are the 2nd video to show this way. Reading your comments I’m a believer. All other shows firing order, feel for compression on and on.
Thats how my grandpa did it. Keep it simple!
Yup! 👍👍
I watched countless videos on adjusting the valves on my my 97 Camaro SS 350 LT1 before I stumbled upon this one. It was a lightbulb moment and it made so much sense how you simplified the process. I had over tightened and under tightened rockers and my 350 sounded like a diesel. Followed the procedure outlined and she is purring once again!
Omg that the best advice ever! Just finished adjustments as explained. The result exceeded expectations!
YOUNG DEREK WHATTTT ITS BEEN FOREVER SINCE I SEEN THIS VIDEO!!! AND IT GOT ME MOVING THRU THIS HEAD JOB!!
This is way easier that the traditional way I did it. I will be doing this method from now on!
You mention in you ad video about teaching people. While you humorous videos are fun more like this are needed keep it up
Thanks Luke
Man alive! This will take away all of the fun with adjusting roller rockers and oil flying everywhere including onto brand new ceramic coated headers! Thanks for sharing.
Used this method this morning putting my sbc together. Works well
The Second video I found like this. Can't wait to work on my engine
👍👍
Works for all of em. Best way to do them!!
This is AWESOME! I'm doing this on my SBC as we speak in my Garage. Thank You Brother
I'll repeat myself , this is amazing . I just watched your big block build . I've never seen it done this way . No book tells you to do this . I;ve always started with top dead center in #1 , then follow the book as to which intake and exhaust to adjust , rotate 360 degrees and go by the book as to which E or I valves to adjust , your method is by far eaisier and you can't get mixed up . , as I have done , LOL
Is he adjusting it until the push rod will not spin between his fingers? Or just until he feels some presure on it?
Great tip! Thank you! I love this channel!
you bet thanks for watching
setting up a 327 sbc just what i needed thank you sir !!!
You bet!
Derek tremendous help working on finishing up the valve train on my 460 build and this is a HUGE help thank you!
I saw a lot of other videos on adjusting valves on fords. Totally confusing and didn’t make sense. Thankyou and your dad for the easiest way I’ve seen to adjust valves!
I trust you. It totally makes sense!
I've tried static (by the factory manual) and running (also by an older factory manual iirc), even bought a set of deflectors to prevent oil splash (don't do that, just cut some valve covers if you want to do it running). This method looks like the simplest and most trouble free/idiot proof method. Thank you!
You're welcome buddy!
@ViceGripGarage this video just saved me from pulling my hair out. Thanks bud!
You should be a shop teacher. Very methodically and very calm when teaching..... super!
thank you friend
Never new that. Thank you so much for sharing this video. That is really going to help me next time I rebuild a motor. I've always had that problem
I’m so glad I came across this video,This just helped get my Sbc 350 to fire up. I had my valves to tight on my 1st adjustment.
Just enjoying my Saturday rewatching VGG videos, they are as good the second time as they are the first!
You're awesome man! Cheers!👍
Cheer’s to you as well!!
this works perfect just put a 302 in our shoebox i used this method and zip fired up and ran perfect 1st shot
Nice Joe!
I'm doing a 302 gonna try it.
Hey vicegrip just want to say thank for sharing your video to a guy like me that have never adjusted valve before n my life and it certainly worked everything you do and that's what I did an my 389 Pontiac runs great, thanks again clarence Washington.
Great content. That was how we were taught at the dirt track.
This is brilliant, thanks for sharing!
Absolutely!!
Wow adjusting valves has always been the reason I pull out my book... wow... thank you so much. My dad taught me how to work on cars he worked on them his whole life for the Navy, air force, and general motors. He was a walking textbook and he had an hour process for this lol
You bet Michael! Thanks for watching
I see that uniform in your picture. USAF is a good branch. Taught me how to turn wrenches as well. I appreciate the service to our great nation.
@@benross647 hey thanks bud I'm in communications. It's a whole side of the world people can't even imagine
I have been dreading replacing the head gaskets on my engine because of the valve rods but this gives me confidence to give it a go. Thank you.
Outstanding; My dad taught me engine running; half a cardboard box lid pinched on the bottom of the valves to guild the oil back into the crankcase. Adjust while running 1/2 turn after no tick tick.
6:10 Thats waaaaay easier than the other garbage I've been doing
I was taught a very similar method, you start at TDC set zero lash rotate 1 full turn, check and set zero lash again do another full rotation and if everything is good then give it 1/2 to 3/4 turn to set preload and your done. It's worked every time I've done it and it was taught to be by a old school engine builder. Very cool to see it used by someone else, it definitely brings back memories!
Thanks for helping out the people that want to do this adjustment on their own, I am one of them, do you think it's necessary to do 90 degrees turn to check for clearance like his doing the adjustment or I am fine by just setting it at TDC set zero lash, then proceed with full turns until is zero lash, then add 3/4 turn, i have a 1997 mercury mountaineer 5.0 L, i want to fix my clattering on the valves, the only thing is that I do not want to open the whole thing just the valve covers, how can I spin the pushrods. Trying this method, please help me out, thanks.
@LuisMartinez-fr9gq you'll have plenty of room to rotate the push rods by just removing the valve covers. From what I've learned both methods have the same outcome, the way I do it just has fewer steps. Now here's the problem, these methods only work if you have fully adjustable rockers and if I remember correctly, factory ford heads of that year have pedal stool style rockers which mean that they are tightened down and torqued to spec, everything is preset from the factory so double check before attempting any adjustment. I suggest buying a service/ repair manual from your local auto parts store. Now here's another suggestion, if it's a lite chatter you can usually quite it down by using a oil stabilizer like Lucas oil stabilizer (I use it in everything new or high milage) just make sure to follow the directions on the bottle. I hope this helps and remember, don't just take one person's word for it, always do your research and good luck with your repairs.
Hi friend thanks for your replied, I like your honestly by explaining things, sincerely I appreciated what your are telling me in regards to my car it has to be torque down, I am going to get the book just to double check type of rocker arms. Again thank you for your help. I will keep digging just to play safe. I am worry about it but I hope I can get it done with all the support I have received. Thanks.
Thank you and your father I'm assembling a csb 350 for my fiancée to put in her dad's mud truck its a long story but I'm just really trying to get it done for her so she has a chance to drive it and this is going to save me some serious time which hasn't been on my side in awhile now. It's also my first complete build I'm no mechanic but I'm trying and triple checking everything
Thank you very much for your show. I used to watch only movies but know I find myself watching. I've never been able to work on vehicles. My dad could fix anything on a car. Watching your show I've learned a lot.
By the way I love VGG hats.
Thanks bro!
The easiest SBC adjustment. Been using that method forever. Works every time. Edit- I was always taught to soak the lifters in oil first. I guess some do it dry. Soaking has always worked for me.
There is no reason whatsoever to soak lifters. Put some assembly lube on them as you're dropping them in. Adjust the pre-load.
Prime the oil pump before initial start-up.
not necessary
Soak lifters? Hahaha....smh.
I’m going to use your method tomorrow on my 327 Chevy. Thanks for the tip. Very helpful. Almost foolproof.
I'm in the process of rebuilding a 1966 chevelle with a 396. Just put the heads on with a multi layer steel .080 head gasket and I'm going to try this method you've shown. Simplest and most thorough way I've seen, thus far. Thanks, bud.
You bet man! Message me if you havr questions
Finally thank you
My dad drove with his knee too, he didn’t intentionally teach me that but I learned it anyway 😜 and my step father taught me to adjust rockers and valve lash 🤷🏽♂️ true story
The best way to set valves on any hydraulic cam. Period. Derek is the man. Just swapped heads and used this method. Perfect.
Derek you have come a long way! But these older videos are still GOLD!
You have done a lot for car culture! Keep making old stuff less intimidating for enthusiasts!
Who seriously down votes videos like this? He did a good enough job explaining it. Will be doing this shortly on my 350. 👍🏽
Thanks man... just rebuilt my first 351w for my plow truck and I just wanted to be certain it's done the same as the sbc's. I greatly appreciate you spreading the knowledge you have. Thank you my friend
Does this work the same for 351w in a f150
@@tavo24vv27 yes.. its worked great for my 5.8L f150 4x4. Except I followed the ford specs on rocker arm torque specs. Which is 22-ftlbs after finding zero lash on top dead center of each cylinder you're lashing valves on. 2 full rotations will allow you to lash each cylinder in firing order one quarter turn at a time.
Hello my friend thanks for your explanation. I want to ask you if I can do what you did on your ford 5.8L, I have a 1997 mercury mountaineer 5.0L, I have not open the valve covers yet but I know a mechanic told me that I have a clatting on the heads, I want to take the opportunity to do this myself by listening and reading from people like you, do you think my truck goes by torquing like yours or I just need to set zero lash then 3/4 turn to adjust, please help me out my friend, thanks in advance hope you know more than me about my vehicle. To adjust valves.
@@LuisMartinez-fr9gq you need to research is the 5.0L for that year Mercury is a roller Cam and Roller lifters before anything. If they are roller then yes you can do it the same way Derek from VGG shows you in the video. Knowing the firing order and going cylinder to cylinder by order will save a lot of time and hassle.
@@LuisMartinez-fr9gq hydraulic roller lifters only need zero lash with one HALF turn after zero lash. That's what I did and it ran great. 👍
Second video I saw that showed the same technique. So I'm sold! Thanks
Thanks Derek! I love this video, I like rotating at least (4) 90's and preload 3/4 turn after zero lash is confirmed. Love the channel you crazy man. Cheers from Motown.
Yeah my dad taught me this in the mid 90's in front of the local general store, a young neighbor kid showed up and had an engine tick in his old 80s c10, dad said it was an easy fix, pulled the valve covers and did it right there in the parking lot, got him to bump it over with the starter
sweet😎
I watched my uncle do this on a 75 Cheyanne while it was running lol
Your Father is a wise man and so are you for following his advice.
Derek you are the man. Thank You for posting this. I have been doing it the hard way for years. This gives me that little extra time for enjoying my creations!! Keep up the great work.
I have done this method a few time and it always works you are 100 percent correct Derek @ViceGripGarage
You are onepretty smart cat BRO,love your channel
Thanks stacy
Literally the way I've always done it.
nice
Hey Derek thanks for the help man. You have taught me so much man keep up the work we all enjoy it. I'm from Maine but would love to travel to Minnesota again.
Thank you I needed taught this kinda method all the forums I've read were Greek to me! Much appreciated
A guy is getting pretty good at this whole utoober video making thing, eh?
Cheers!
Tryin to learn myself up! Got a few good mentors.
@@ViceGripGarage you said this will work on any lifter. What about Rhoads lifters?
I did not say "any lifter". I said, hydraulic lifter, huge difference. The science behind the operation doesn't change with brand name. Its either hydraulic flat tappet, hydralic roller, or its a solid - plain and simple
Do you half to a just timing when you change from 1.5 to 1.6 rocker ratio?
Dame right you are! Your starting to make me think I could be that guy. Your the best!
Thanks for showing that
you bet!
We do it the same way. I would mention your method is great for dry pushrods and lifters. My method for both lubed and dry is up and down movement to get to zero lash. If they are lubed and you spin them you can actually depress the lifter. Hydraulic is so forgiving though. that's my 2cents. Great vid.
Well I’ll be dipped!!! I just used this method on a 1985 454 crusader marine motor . Perfection! Thank you.
I use the same method... it was my grandpa that taught me... I usually run a 3/4 turn on factory Chevy lifters but a half on high performance sets
Nice