6 Technologies The Borg Should (Not) Assimilate
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- Опубліковано 27 лип 2024
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Here are my picks for some technologies that would severely ramp up the danger factor of the Borg in Star Trek that are still attainable by the Collective.
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One of the most terrifying things the Borg could assimilate are tribbles. If they had tribbles they could just Zerg every target.
A borg tribble? You are evil for even saying that! I love it!! Hey I'm the type of person who drinks Pepsi out of a Coca-Cola glass.
If I remember correctly, there was an assimilated tribble in Star Trek Online
@@aurongrande6141 Really? Ha! Thats awesome! I was wondering why no one has done that yet.
@@hpgwellscraft It is indeed in the STO game, Tribble of Borg.
True!
If the Borg assimilated Plot Armor, they'd be unstoppable.
Seven of Nine did :)
@@michaelfitzsimmons8393 she didn't assimilate plot armor. She assimilated hot armor. It will subdue any weeb or fanboy in a nano second. 😉
How about if the Borg assimilated Section 31?
@@Goodiesfanful Star Trek Online had an alternate timeline they assimilated the Romulans, so their vessels had cloaking devices. It was pretty creepy just flying along and a Borg cube or two decloak in front of you.
Just like Batman!
I've got one for the list: the synaptic transmitter from the VOY ep "Memorial." It can insert memories and cause hallucinatory experiences at interplanetary distances. Imagine the Borg using it to transmit the experience of being part of the Collective to every planet and ship in an entire star system, pacifying it all for as long as it takes to assimilate everyone and everything...
Worse....imagine them using it to project a peace and comfort, a want and need to reach the Borg and bring any and all greatest technology with them 👀
Existential horror rising ☹️
@@sirhenry9313 Or a matrix style perfect world while we are pacified in the real world. Hmmm. How do we know that is not the current world.
You know what is a scarier thought? If we look at how the Borg already communicate with each other with no limit of distance, technically they could modify their already existing technology to do this already. Unimatrix Zero proving that a false reality being projected can/will in fact happen, just a little tweaking and the Borg have everything they need to do this. And as we have seen on VOY in both "Unimatrix Zero" and "The Omega Directive", while the Borg primarily learn through assimilation (and adaptation), they do have the means to investigate and experiment.
@@RolandWolf If this is their idea of a perfect world I'd hate to see an imperfect one...
The "think tank" from Voyager series had neutronium armor, some sort of dimensional phasing ability, and a few other advantageous technologies the Borg would like to have
Assimilating the Think Tank themselves would generate all kinds of new tech and horrors
Given that the Borg have already an understanding of Temporal Technology, I think one of the most dangerous things for them to assimilate would be the Krenim Time Ship from ST:VOY 'Year of Hell Parts 1&2'. The ability to alter a timeline without actually needing to travel through time, like they attempted in First Contact, is an improvement, but the technology on the ship would give them an enormous advantage just with it being able to stay out of phase with normal space time.
The temporal incursions from the weapon would only serve to further demonstrate the Borg paradox though: If a species is not very advanced, it is almost not worth assimilating; If a species is on par with the Borg, little is still to be gained to advance Borg 'perfection'; If a species is far superior than the Borg, new technology may be gained, but it makes the species able to resist if not win against the Borg. Once the Borg start to wipe out other civilizations like that though, they will need to learn to breed on their own, and research their own technology, things they have not opted into.
One supposes they wouldn't have to wipe out whole civilizations, however. A Borg Ship isolated from the tempiral effects of the weapon could, say, eliminate the enterprise, retain the knowledge of the Federation (despite the "First Contact" event being lost), then sync back up with the Borg Collective as a whole and direct a cube at Earth.
It's not a dissimilar play from the time-displaced drones in FC and ENT trying to contact the Borg Collective, really.
A problem would be that maybe, just maybe, Annorax's supposed "insights" into time weren't ENTIRELY insane, at which point the Borg's incursions would he wildly innacurate, as I cannot see the Borg bothering to account for time's "Moods" lol.
On the borg paradox: The borg still gain knowledge and technology even from losses though, most of the time, Species 8472 being an exception. An advantage of being a hive mind, even if the entire attacking force is wiped out, as long as they can get scans of the enemy, observe tactics and technology and maybe board and access enemy ship systems, or do a tiny bit of assimilating, then they have gained something from the attack. It's a reasonable theory that they keep half assing the attacks on earth/the federation to farm star fleet inventiveness.
Guardian of Forever. It would devastating if The Borg managed to find and use it, as it can do similar things to the Krenim Time Ship, although any sort of time travel ability would be bad if The Borg got ahold of it.
Their calculating nature would bear far more precision than the flawed biological minds of the Krenim crew. They would put it to absolutely devesatating use, erasing ships and species entirely that offer them too much resistance and use it to steer themselves into the level of dominance they seem to seek..
One of the most powerful, yet overlooked features of any time travel is the ability to send data on future scientific discoveries and blueprints back in time. I don't believe the borg are signatories to the Temporal Accords and I can see them fully exploiting any temporal technologies they already have.
I imagine the borg spend most of their time building server farms just to contain the data they're getting from possible future timelines where they've already conquered the galaxy.
What would make the borg truly terrifying is a technology which would allow them to invade and conquer timelines where they've *previously been wiped out.* As the video stated, a Collective capable of conducting operations across thousands of universes and alternate timelines would be essentially unstoppable.
On the other hand, it would have almost no reason to continue assimilating past a certain point due to redundancy of information.
Borg: "You have been assimilated."
Founder: "Ah, yes. Here you are," handing a pile of mechanical and electronic bits to the drone, "you can have this back. I don't need it."
Borg: "Stand still. You will be assimilated."
Founder: "*sigh* Okay."
Borg, a few moments later: "You have been assimilated."
Founder: "Again. I have no need of this junk. Here you go." Handing cyborg parts back to the drone.
Borg, raising a mechanical eyebrow: "Stand still. You will be assimilated."
Founder: "Perhaps I should speak with your manager."
Q are too powerful, but there have been instances of Q being stripped of their powers. If one of them were assimilated, imagine the knowledge the Borg would gain.
It's probable that other Q keep an eye on Q that have been stripped of power, and would pull them out if any Borg appeared.
The only opportunity would have been during the Q civil war, when all Q in reality were affected.
"If the Continuum has told you once, the Continuum has told you a million times...
*DON'T PROVOKE THE BORG!!!"*
When talking about alternate realities, I wondered what the Mirror Borg would be like? I think the books had them as just really really bad version of themselves. But I'd like to see a good version.
MU Borgs are more or less the same of Prime Universe, but ruled by a King and with better legs.
As the Queen said, you think in such 3 dimensional terms. Mirror Borg are just the Borg, same as other Temporal or Dimensional Borg, all are the same collective.
I think the good Borg should be like monks assimilating technology peacefully. Only taking people voluntarily. They would travel around the galaxy helping people asking people to joint the collective while helping as many people as they can whether they choose to be assimilated or not.
@@greggougeon4422 Picard
@@kelvinalexander8596 I haven't seen past season one of Picard. Does this happen
The Borg assimilating a traveler is the origin of the Combine from Half-Life 2.
There are indications VOY that the Borg have Assimilated Voth. In an episode where Seven manifests multiple drone personalities, one of the writes a love letter which speaks of going into and out of torpor, (suggesting possibly reptilian biology) and suggests their lover leave their "Circle" (Academic or professional groupings used by the Voth) to visit.
Notably this persona speaks of being on a colony, suggesting that the Borg can overcome them, and that the Voth' s mobility in their city-ships, combined with their isolationism, may be what has kept the Borg off them thus far.
I was going to say this: the Borg have assimilated the Voth. We've seen Voth Drones.
@@KimPossibleShockwave Oh I didn't know that.
@@williambell3304 Yeah -- IIRC it was in one of the Voyager episodes where Borg tech malfunctions.
We see unassimilated Voth standing in Borg alcoves with dozens of other species (including Humans and Bajorans): they were meant to be the unassimilated selves of the personalities in Seven's head of the Drones aboard the wrecked Borg Cube.
The borg have the problem of “I see it so lets take it”…. Also being the biggest and most powerful bully on the block is you will eventually encounter somebody/something that is more powerful then you and your on your own as your getting your butt kicked as everybody is watching your demise cheering on your defeat.
They also have the problem of thinking like locusts or the morons from The Lorax. Their philosophy seems to make them incapable of innovation or creative problem solving. So the only way to advance themselves is to steal it from others. Problem is that if they assimilate the entire species, then that species will no longer be creating anything new either. They are so obsessed with expansion that they destroy the only resource they care about, new stuff.
I seem to recall that the plot in one of the early-ish TNG novels (I think it was Vendetta) revolved around the Planet Killer encountered by Kirk being a prototype for an anti-Borg weapon. The real one showed up.
I mentioned that as well
A member of Guinon's El-Aurion race found a second machine and used it to get revenge on the Borg and to hell with the billions who get in her way
@@dragonweyr44 Yea, that sounds about right (been years since I read it). But I think that it was designed to be an actual anti-Borg weapon from the start, if I recall correctly.
Voyager actually engaged in another Planet Killer in the Comics. Kim (?) knew exactly what it was due to being a Kirk Fanboy... but Seven elaborated that the Collected HAD engaged against one before, and broke off it's assault due to it essentially being more trouble than it was worth.
@@rogerw5299 That's right
In the post-"Endgame" novels "Homecoming" and "The Farther Shore" a Borg "virus" dubbed "Royal Protocol" assimilates Janeway into a Borg Queen and a Doomsday Machine (specifically the same one from 'The Doomsday Machine') was referred to as being an anti-Borg weapon and had "merged" in defeating the renewed Collective. Once the Planet Killer was mentioned I immediately thought of these novels because they were an interesting take on the continued Voyager timeline
Actually, I believe you mean the missing 97 changeling infants, not 98. Quark sold a sick infant to Odo who then died and fused with him to give Odo back his shapeshifting abilities. That is in addition to Laas.
Did it actually die though? I assume it's memories and experience were merged with Odo and since Odo was a huge part of those experiences I would imagine that he wouldn't have gained much from it. I would assume that since that point odo was essentially two beings in one matrix. Kinda hard to say at that point that it's actually dead.
@@DeathBYDesign666 I think that it's bonding to Odo was more on the line of a skin graft in our world
The original donor dies but the recipient is healed
Did you include Laas in your count by any chance?
@@dragonweyr44 I literally mentioned Laas in the last sentence of my post.
@@dragonweyr44 That might be the case, but hypothetically speaking we don't know that. Either way I don't see the infant changelings experience would have changed Odo very much regardless. Odo has decades of experience and the infant only a few weeks, it would be like adding a minute of extra footage into a several hours long movie, it won't change the context very much.
The Borg Queen does seem to be at least aware of some of these things, For example, in Picard season 2, the alternate timeline Queen not only knows who Locutus is despite him never having existed in that reality, but she can easily determine a point of divergence in the timeline. She knows who and what the Watchers are, that's for sure.
Much like how the Federation has it's "Prime Directive" to try not interfering too much in the affairs of less developed civilisations, I think that there are more... developed, or advanced civilisations in the galaxy that have a similar policy. Organians in TOS would be an example, where they only reveal their true selves after the Federation and Klingons make too much 'noise' on their home planet.
And while the Borg Collective are not at that level, I think the Borg Queen, ironically, as an individual, is at that level. She knows that if she even thinks of taking advantage of the things you mention here it would earn the hostility of the others.
This kinda ignores the inherent weakness in the fact that the Borg can only assimilate what the nanites can penetrate. This is why the Borg suddenly found themselves losing very openly to Species 8472 .
What that plot failed to acknowledge is that failing to assimilate something does not equal being unable to destroy that thing.
@@Matt-yg8ub While it is true they dont explain that directly in the episode we do get some info that helps us understand it. For instance we find out that in Fluid Space the only living race is Species 8472 and that they are an ancient race, highly evolved. It stands to reason that their defensive abilities could easily out match that of the borg. We also learn that their ships are Bio based, in fact they are almost identical to that of Species 8472 who we see are very resistant to energy weapons. Sometimes you dont need to be told anything directly to understand it.
@@ASavageEye Other way around actually. Age has nothing to do with it. With no competition in fluidic space, 8472 would stagnate and atrophy. The biological similarity between them and their ships made it laughably easy for Voyager’s EMH to develop a way to kill them both… in short order. Biological technology is inherently fragile
Compared to synthetic tech…. The Borg of all people would be experienced in manipulating it.
Just drawing on the plots of contemporary Trek movies you have Plasma coolant that liquifies organic mater on contact, Thaleron radiation that turns organic matter to ash and metaphasic radiation that affects longevity.
With minor tweaks, Borg Nano probes were adapted to kill 8472…. Imagine what they could have done with a self replicating nano swarm released into fluidic space.
@@Matt-yg8ub You are miss understanding what I said about Fluidic Space. I didnt say they never had any competition but that they are the only beings living there. In their tens of thousands of years of history it is safe to assume they had competition, otherwise why evolve at all? Also Fluidic space does have boarders with regular space so in all likelyhood they had encounters with many other technicallly evolved species. And age has EVERYTHING to do with it. The longer a species exists the more they learn and evolve, thats just inescapable nature at work.
The fact that the EMH was able to adapt the nanites to penetrate 8472 biology and the Borg did not actually only proves the one huge flaw the borg have...their inability to conseive new ideas. The Borg take knowledge and use it but they dont know how to come up with new technology on their own, that would require imagination they dont passess. Their lack of ability to defend themselves is due to their lack of ability to learn about what 8472 was using against them.
And what makes you so sure those other things would even work against 8472? Their ability to survive in open space with no protection proves they are resistant to radiation for a start. Fluidic space had extreme density and was itself corrosive so Plasma might not do a damned thing to them either. Thats the thing about Science Fiction....you dont know ANYTHING for a fact so anything is possible.
@@ASavageEye Plot… that’s the only reason why a computer program the Borg have access to, can “innovate” their own technology beyond what the collective can do
I assumed Q would be top of the list as just imagine The Borg with the powers of Q the entire universe could be assimilated in moments with just a thought
The Q seem so far above most species in terms of capability that I can't imagine them being threatened by the borg. The Q teenager was even told off for provoking them in the Voyager episode "Q2"; presumably they are not a big threat to the Q if their children feel safe enough to tug their tail, so to speak. Maybe not the best analogy as often smaller animals do this to larger ones lol, but my point is they're clearly not a threat to the Q.
Strange he didn't mention it at the end when he listed species he considered too powerful but perhaps it goes without saying, given the Qs almost god like abilities.
Indeed, it would be terrifying, but a Q would never make themselves so vulnerable. In the FMV game Borg, Q just camouflages himself as a Borg.
It's by no means certain that the Q even have a biology as we understand it for the Borg to assimilate. I suspect the Q are and will always be so far beyond the Borg's reach that it's just not possible.
And then theyd leave for another Galaxy or universe or just kill themselves... Think about it, Q are basically gods, alll knowing and powerfull... what would you ever want to Assimilate after that?
I'm sure that if a Q was in a weakened state (as Q himself was at least once) and the Borg got a hold of it, that the collective would 'adjust' the Borg to remove anything or knowledge of the Q.
Man I would love a Dominion vs Borg storyline in any of the shows
That would explain the number of heavy warships the Dominion have, if they are to keep the Borg at bay. They have thousands, and they would need everyone of them.
I suspect that the Jem'Hadar's addiction to the White is in part to prevent the Borg from assimilating them. The Borg would see them as subtracting from perfection with such a handicap.
Meanwhile, Vorta are ordered to kill themselves when captured.
It all seems set up to avoid allowing the Borg to learn Dominon secrets.
Perhaps even that was why the Dominion was so hostile to the Federation? They realized very early that the Federation behaves much like the Borg in that they learn and adapt but through observation rather than assimilation. The Federation would (and did) figure out Dominion tech. Federation officers with this knowledge would then be themselves assimilated, giving the Borg unacceptable levels of information on Dominion
I would like real star trek back instead of woke trek which is awful.
@@VVeremoose The Vorta would likely all suicide before they could be assimilated, but the Jem'hadar? Their White or its effects can be synthesized by the implants, since that's their job across various species' biologies.
The Founders can't be assimilated: when it was attempted, the Changeling just compressed the nanoprobes into a ball and, well, tihS them out.
@Mike Baker you assume the Borg could synthesize the White. And even if they could, the Founders could change the formula for the next batch of JH as soon as they figure it out.
What it comes down to is, are the founders better at bioengineering, or are the Borg better at inorganic engineering?
Plot armor. Assimilation of this would render them immune to all threats.
I mean... canonically, the Borg already have access to time travel, so plot aside, they've already won. The moment they assimilated that technology, they would've absolutely dominated the entire galaxy. That's still a huge plot hole in First Contact as far as I'm concerned. Why did they travel all the way to Earth to use the time travel vortex? The location didn't seem to matter, why not just use it in the Delta Quadrant, travel back however many years, then go to Earth the normal way in the past? No resistance, no problem.
The only problem might be a bootstrap paradox.
Location may, indeed, have mattered - just in ways unclear to us.
@@aholland20132 How? They made a vortex requiring no gateway or anything, just the ship. Why would the ship have to be anywhere near its end goal if it could just travel back in time at any point?
Time travel in Star Trek is a plot hole. It has rules except when it doesn't. It is reversed except when it isn't. It is tightly controlled except when it isn't. There is zero consistency with it in the franchise. Not complaining if the story is good, but it is what it is.
@@ODST_Parker I think that they could have, but doing it from Delta Quadrant would not only require control over The Omega Molecule, but would require enough of them to produce the needed energy that the risk of destabilization would, if realized, wipe out ALL FTL that uses Subspace in the GALAXY!
I'm assuming an exponential increase in power requirements with distance increasing, of course, to explain why the Borg Sphere had enough energy to use it at the target planet.
The borg assimulating romulan cloaking device and trully perfecting it to the point where its imposible to detect them untill its to late on a mission that involved not time travel but a time altering weapon in the atempt to win against the iconians.
While I am sure they do have access to it, they never seem to use the psychic powers of the races they assimilate.
Imagine a Borg cube that can just dominate your mind immediately upon arrival and force you to submit to assimilation.
I've always assumed that psychic powers are fundamentally linked to individuality. The Borg collective is too large and decentralized to force a singular will on another species.
Empaths focus more on emotion. Telepathy is understood by the Federation but is never replicated. I suspect there's a bit of futuristic spirituality involved that the Star Trek authors didn't want to quantify.
@@protiod wouldnt the borg queen be able to use psionics then?
as she is the will of the borg thus represents the borg as a single indivuial.
in theory then the borg queen should be the most powerfull non ascended being psionic in the universe.
expect perhaps the iconians though even they can be assimilated going by some of star trek online explorations of alt timelines.
@@wilmagregg3131 There is a theory that the Queen is psychic, and used that ability to resist losing her identity and take control of the collective.
@@protiod There are a lot of sub-sapient psychic organisms though. Those should be weaponize-able by the Borg.
They learn more from the attempted resistance.
the USS Discovery
Spinning borg cubes just appearing out of nowhere powered by Shrooms
Three from the STO game I know you've encountered would also be terrifying:
The Annorax temporal ship
An actual Iconian
The Excalbians
Annorax time ship would be reduntant for time travel purposes and its weapons useless because Borg want absorb, so erasing would not make much sense.
In one mission of STO they have done it.
Borg assimilate Iconians, and Tal Shiar and the fun begins (I belive that is the mission with the excalbians and Pres. Lincoln)
With number 3 the founders I had already thought of a scenario where while the assimilation would be incomplete the founder would hear the hive mind, calling a mockery of the great link. The founder would also give his Jemhadar an impossible order, to kill him to save the link. Ther "god" gave them an order they cannot refuse but is against their very being to obey. I 'm the on to pull the trigger would most likely kill himself to atone.
I'm a failed writer, but I had a fan fiction I was going to write about general Martok observing a Dominion/Borg war in the gamma q, leading to his being captured by them after helping end the situation. The Jem'Hadar can not be assimilated cause of the ketrisil white making them die within hours of assimilation, the aorta on the other hand . . .
Oh yes, some ships crashing into cubes too :)
The thing is you have to kill all of the Founder. If you don't, what's left becomes a new founder.
would be easier for the to get the Vorta to kil them. One of the Wayouns was willing to kill Odod to get a different Wayoun.
Before I started this video I got the impression that this would be a joke video about technologies that the Borg should not assimilate because it would be harmful for them to do so. 😆
Like The Particulate, from Knuckle Cracker's game Particle Fleet?
Or perhaps The Creeper, the enemy in all other Knuckle Cracker games.
The Google AdSense AI might be dangerous for them. Or the UA-cam censorship AI 😂😂😂👍
A specie who the Borg shouldn't assimilate is another borg hive because the nanites work like an immune system where what's assimilated takes part of the network and finds out it has been compromised and since there's now two Borgs in one hive they evolve their own version of cancer. Janeway did this to a Borg queen by letting herself be assimilated while carrying borg nanites from another reality.
@@robertagren9360 There are lore, offical or not, pointing that the Borg have been annihilated several times only to reemerge. Perhaps in the form of some survivors but also the possibility of total Borg extinction followed by a rebirth in the form of people finding ancient artifacts infecting them. The Borg can also be reborn from scratch by people loosing control of their use of cybernetic augmentation. Maybe hooking up your brain directly to the internet wasn't such a good idea after all...
Yeah that's what I was thinking. Like an old earth laptop with windows Vista on it.
A few other terrifying thing would be cloaking devices, the Krenim timeship, a Prophet, underspace from the Vaadwaur or Turei.
they old cloak of romulans was already onbsoplete but the phase cloak. The borg must have deamed cloaking as romulans and kilingons have useless because they assimuklated both species. I think the cloak of the EDO gaurdian is phased cloak. With regular cloak you are still there and if detected very vunerable, With phased cloaking weapons not tued to it would just pass. The onnly reason the federation didn't have cloaking tech was the treaty with the Romulans. The cloak is hardlly a threat to for help to the birg except to ability to detect it. By TNG cloaking is 400 years old as it was in ENT
Aren't Prophets and Pah Waiths purely energy beings? They're kinda like the Q but limited to a very small area.
As I recall, according to apocrypha, the Doomsday Machine was, in fact, created by a race specifically to fight the borg, though I'm not sure the borg are as old as the doomsday device.
Supposedly by Guinan's people, according to one book. One of her people would merge their mind into the machine, making it more deadly than just an AI controlled weapon. I assume that the one Doomsday Device from TOS had that person's mind die or cease functioning, as I doubt they would attack worlds of non Borg peoples.
Supposedly it was Gynan's race.
The problem with the Doomsday Machine is that I can't see the Borg choosing to use that tech. Sure, armor is handy... but the Borg solution to getting damaged is to build many small, redundant systems that can all be routed around as necessary. While it's never shown, to my knowledge, the implication is that if you blew a Borg ship into chunks, each chunk is perfectly capable of functioning on its own, after the appropriate damage control/duct tape is applied.
Let's say the universes of Babylon 5 and Star Trek were to merge. Imagine how horrifying it would be if the Borg were to get Shadow tech? Shadows are basically billions of years ahead of most races, even other firsts ones races they are millions of years ahead. The Shadows are techno-ogranic and their ships are virtually indestructible. Not to mention access to jump-gate tech, which if they amplify it enough, they can cross dimensions like the Vorlons (enemies of the Shadows) did when they developed a jumpgate that was able to cross over into the Thirdspace dimension. That would be another way they could become a multiversal threat.
I would agree for the most part. As shown though there ship's are far from being indestructible but they are very powerful. Their tech as a whole would be similar to what the borg and 8472 would be if they came together. A merge of organic and technology. But it would be super creepy to see in any case.
Old does not mean more advanced. The Shadows are very advanced for B5 universe, but even the first ones are less advanced than Star Trek races.
Oo this sounds like an idea for a video series, hahaha
It wouldn't happen! If the Borg tried, The Shadows and Vorlons would exterminate them! Mind you just imagine if they tried to assimilate the Daleks or Time Lords in Doctor Who! Then they would be truly frightening!
Imagine if they would gain the technology of the Necrons from Warhammer 40000
A Dyson Sphere, advanced technology that is run on Omega particles. I dont know why they havent gone after the one found by the Enterprise. On that note why haven't the Federation put lots of their resources into it.
Well, the advanced tech part is only ever seen in STO which isn't canon. In canon, it's a mega mega structure that might not have anything all that impressive. The entire point of it was to harvest 100% of a star's radiant energy. In STO they did put lots of resources into it.
@@darwinxavier3516 There was a Dyson Sphere in the TNG episode Relics guest starring James Doohan
@@dragonweyr44 I know, I mentioned it existed in canon.
@@darwinxavier3516 The material technology to build a solid Dyson is far beyond what the Federation has. Imagine what kind of metal that could handle being used to construct such an item. Far beyond Trek hull metal for sure. Close to indestructible as you can get. Imagine the ability to just manufacture that much material? Transmutation on a large scale beyond Fed or even Borg tech.
@@krisgonynor689 All of that is conjecture and beta canon. What we see and what is said in the episode is just that it is very old and very big, and probably required the resources of a few star systems. It could simply be that the builders had a massive infrastructure to pull off something like this. Conceivably nothing is stopping the current powers from doing this other than it is actually an extremely inefficient investment of resources. Even if there was some advanced tech used to do all this quickly and easily, that doesn't mean the tech would be baked into the sphere itself.
Maybe as a part two to this, how about Technologies from outside of the Star Trek Universe (other Sci-Fi franchises) the Borg should (not) assimilate and perhaps alien races outside of the Star Trek that could give the Borg bloody noses or outright defeat them..? (logically, without any bias and within reason, I've always wondered how a Borg & Dalek encounter would honestly go down in keeping with continuity, lore and character, perhaps including extended/expanded media, etc for both sides..?)
Perhaps Certifiably Ingame could do a collaboration video with EckhartsLadder on this..?
Agreed on all counts.
I always thought the Borg had some...interesting limitations. Here's some food for thought:
What if the Borg began cloning all the drones they needed, and even genetically engineered them with whatever traits they wanted/needed?
What if the Borg began investigating, experimenting, and advancing their own technology in the usual way, using their already considerable technology as a starting point?
What if the Borg clad ALL their ships with armor, and used more standard shields in combat, stopping their ships from taking damage WHILE adapting to an enemy's weapons?
Does anyone else think that after assimilating the El'Aurian, and gaining the knowledge of how to call a Q, that the Borg called a Q to try and assimilate it. And, considering Q's reaction to Jr. messing with the Borg in the Voyager episode Q2 perhaps the Q fear the Borg. What if the Borg can assimilate the Q? The Q have shown they can travel to the beginning of the universe. The Borg have been known to travel back in time to change history in their favor. So, if a Q were assimilated the Borg could go back to any point in time and manipulate the timelines to their advantage. Incidentally the whole idea of the Temporal Cold and later Hot War is missing the Borg element, and I think it would be interesting to explore that premise in a new trek series. It would still be inline with the current cannon and would also allow trek to go in a whole new direction. Also assimilating a Q would not be required to make the Borg's inclusion in the Temporal War believable as we see a temporal traveler in the Voyager episode Timeless.
NO CHANCE! They tried before and the Q taught them a bitter lesson I would imagine!
Kirk should be added to the list. With the amount of AI he stumped even going so far as to impress Spock with his logic, the Borg would immediately see the error of their ways if they assimilated him.
The borg would be unbeatable in hand to hand fisticuffs
and seduction
A borg cube pops in the star wars universe, and suddenly they all have lightsabers
Well star wars has some pretty insane Technologies, especially thos build by sith, rakata and celestials
Those are just plasma weapons without the force to properly use. Of course since the prequels made the force biological, the Borg could assimilate and copy that.
@@patrickmccurry1563 do you knwo how hard it is to clone a force sensitive being, i think the borg wozld have a hard time coping that
Assimiliate Midichlorians. Hmm. Sounds like something the Jedi would not teach you, young skywalker.
Aren't the Borg basically finished by 2401? But speaking of things they shouldn't assimilate, Pike's hair - that is just too gloriously powerful for the Borg.
I would also mention the Kobali's technology of resurrecting and turning the dead of other species into the Kobali. If the Borg were capable of assimilating and resurrecting their dead drones or those that were killed, they would basically never run out of the units to assimilate, even when a heavy resistance was put, or some opted to simply kill themselves before turning into Borg drones. With that technology even death wouldn't be an escape from the Borg.
Always thought of a idea a friend gave along time ago..what if Lore succeeded in his experiments to make Borg 100 percent mechanical with a posotronic brain . that in many way would been a very big advancement, but also could have been a even greater weakness. Unsure if that concept has ever been explored in alternate timeline books or star trek online.
I've always thought that if he succeeded, it could have been very beneficial. They would no longer have any need to assimilate biological species. The worst they'd do is steal technology, which might also have changed to either powerful scanning technologies or actual trade. But, then again, it was Lore and he was basically making them worship him, so they'd probably go from assimilation to extermination.
If they got a positronic brain would they still desire organic material at all?? As I think about it, that would be the greatest way to reduce the borg threat. If they don't desire or need organic material then their desire would turn to assimilating technology. They come by, steal your biggest and baddest ship and technology, and then leave. Reverse engineering and then building their own version of the technology has to be vastly more efficient then staying around and fighting while you steal more and more.
@@TheDavemarz TBH if the Borg were just down to stealing tech, I'd just build a ship with everything on it and a note saying "Have at it!" so they'd leave us alone.
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Or like stargate did send them out with the replicators which were mechanical borg. Blew them all uop when they went of the tastey ship
I do suspect the Travellers power requires some perception/awareness of an individual’s place in spacetime which the gestalt consciousness of the Borg might be unable to even understand, let alone replicate. Plus they could probably just think themselves away to escape from any drones.
I’ve also long thought that if First Contact did feature DS9 cameos from the Defiant as mooted, they could’ve had Odo help save the day by being un-assimilateable. The Morphogenic Matrix is easily as alien as 8472’s physiology, and the Federation barely understood it whereas they understood 8472’s rather well.
But of course they could just endlessly throw Jem’Hadar at any Borg ship which showed up, with a bonus that the Borg wouldn’t get much from assimilating them - they’re already super strong etc etc and The White isn’t useful to the Borg at all. So the risk of the Borg even getting a chance to try assimilating a changeling is minimal.
That's a good point, the Jem'Hadar are virtually un-assimilable, assuming the Borg can't alter their physiology drastically, which I think is a fair assumption. Not only are their lifespans very short they're physically dependant on a substance only the Dominion can provide. It may well be too much investment for too little return for the Borg.
Interestingly they're almost perfectly designed to fight an enemy that can convert soldiers for their own use, like the Borg. I can imagine the Founders creating the Jem'Hadar as a direct result of encountering the borg, then finding them so useful and effective that they adopted them as their main military force. The main defence being their dependency on white, with their shorter lives being a secondary if less effective defence against assimilation, or perhaps it's simply the shortest time a Jem'Hadar can exist while justifying the cost to create them, on average. Or perhaps it's just the limit of Founder knowledge and skill in biological engineering and they couldn't shorten their life-span any further without other detrimental characteristics creeping in.
It's a neat idea. The fact that the Dominion are quite far from the borg puts a damp cloth on it as a theory but I think it could work well enough to be an official part of canon. If not the sole reason then part of the reason Jem'Hadar were designed the way they were. Perhaps the Founders had some early encounters with the Borg and understanding the enormity of the threat they posed, they designed the Jem'Hadar with the Borg in mind, while also making sure they were an effective general military.
@@mrjoe5292 The Transwarp Network map shown in the video shows that the Borg have access to almost everywhere in our Galaxy - most likely both sides have met each other and found it not worth fighting - the Founders would have no use for the Borg and the Borg couldn't assimilate them, nor waste time fighting the Jem'Hadar as there would be nothing to gain and a lot to lose in such a battle.
This might explain why the Borg didn't attack the Federation during the Dominion War. If the Founders learned there was a Borg Cube in Federation space, and having fought with and understood what kind of threat they are, the war would have ended in a ceasefire and the Dominion would have joined the Fed's in fighting off the Borg (for a price, I'm sure). The Dominion knew if the Federation was assimilated by the Borg, they could never win the war and would probably lose everything in the Alpha and Beta quadrant as well as all of their new allies. They wouldn't let that happen as it would be an enormous threat to them as well.
The Borg knew of the war and of the Dominion, and most likely either decided to wait and see who won and then pick off the winners if the Fed won, but knew not to get involved with the Founders as they most likely are able to stop the Borg since they have already done so in the past. I'd think the Founders may have invented a way to block the Borg subspace communications networks that keep the Collective whole. Then they could either fight off the Borg ships with the Jem'Hadar or use their own "Great Link" to overwhelm the local collective mind on a Borg ship - maybe just long enough to order them to self destruct.
You forgot the holy grail Omega, the borg want it so much even 7 0f 9 mentioned its importance of how many civilizations were assimilated to get more information.
I'd say the omega molecule as it would provide a near limitless power source for the Borg. As advanced as the Borg are they are still limited by power requirements, but with Omega they would circumvent this.
Look to Star Trek Armada 1 for reference.
Given how using Borg technology and very little extra knowledge, Seven was able to hold Omega where it began to stabilize on its own, and all that information has likely been assimilated from Seven when she was temporarily back with the collective in "Dark Frontier" (memories not her consciousness)... then all the Borg need to do is find another source of the ore.
@@j.rileyindependentproductions I recently rewatched that episode, they lost 27 cubes and something 600,000 drones holding the particle for a second and a bit, Seven was inspired by the process of the scientists at the research station, so I think that was a one-off. You are right though, so it's a wonder if the only thing that got in the way was Admiral Janeway disrupting the hivemind, that or it's just bottle episode mentality and doesn't matter anymore.
I wonder if we'll see an episode featuring the omega particle and its disruption of subspace, doubtless numerous timeskips as a ship would take months to leave an area even mildly affected.
Star trek gets this wildly wrong. The Borg could just build Dyson spheres for power. Using an unstable molecule where any error or damage to the storage equipment means the end of FTL travel for many light years around the accident site isn't something the Borg would do. They might pursue the thing for its "perfection" but for power? don't be silly.
You can't assimilate what doesn't exist. The technology wasn't ever perfected or even elevated to the status of working prototype.
@@unintentionallydramatic Untrue. The Borg also assimilate KNOWLEDGE AND INFORMATION. Even if it wasn't perfected, that KNOWLEDGE AND INFORMATION would complete the gap in their technique.
While they have worked on the technology, the Borg haven't been able to develop technology around the Omega particle. If they ever assimilated a species with power over the particle, the galaxy and beyond might be in trouble...
I feel like a founder could resist the Borg by becoming a rock.
Sugar frosted 😂😂😂😂😂
In the now ended post- show DS9 novel continuity a Founder was able to avoid assimilation through compressing themselves and ejecting any nano-probes.
From DS9 we know they can become mist or literal fire.
@@patrickmccurry1563 Facts.👍
I would like to add Vidiian medical technology. Their scientists were able to split Torres into two bodies (a full-blooded Klingon and a full-blooded human). If they had this technology the Borg could easily double or even triple their size.
Also the technology of the Cytherians. In the Nth Degree they were able to provide Barclay with knowledge on how to find them. The Enterprise was able to reach the Center of the Galaxy within a matter of seconds of tv time.
🤔 At first, I thought your subject meant things that would HURT the Borg if they assimilated it, as opposed to HELPING it if they assimilated it. I'm relieved that you straightened out my brief confusion... 😆
There is a book that talks about a founder the borg tried to assimilate it. But the founder condensed itself and pushed the nanites out
I submit that assimilating species 8472 would be a very good thing.
The Borg kept going after them because the Undine were, to the Borg, the ultimate life form.
That makes all humanoid drones obsolete, and all humanoid species as attractive to the Borg as the Kazon.
The Borg would relocate to fluidic space en masse and assimilate all of them, possibly popping into this space every century or so to see if we'd invented anything interesting.
Stepping outside Trek, the worst thing they could assimilate is midichlorians. Imagine drones with Force powers.
I imagined it.
The problem there is the Abeloth Situation.
@@darianleyer5777 A Borg Queen, whose reason for existence is to bring order from chaos, would make the ideal foil for her. That assumes Abeloth didn't approve of the Borg screwing up everything else going on...
Hey, Rick... I have a suggestion for a follow-up video. (#) Things that the Borg shouldn't assimilate for their OWN good. Like... The Kazon. Or a mutated Janeway and Paris. I figure it'd be a funny one for ya. Great vid, bud! -Vic
The the game Star Trek Online, in the Delta Rising Arc of the game, Harry Kim says that even the borg don't assimilate the Kazon...
@@NikolaiManning In Voyager Seven of Nine mention that the Kazon are unworthy of assimilation since they would detract from perfection. She also tells Neelix that they did assimilate a ship crewed by talaxians and they they became excellent drones. I actually believe that she meant it as a compliment to Neelix.
@@NikolaiManning Imagine a drone with that hair lol.
Thank you for making this one. I love the subject matter. As always another great video.
i think the krenim timeship from year of hell should have been included
It was.
@@briananthony4044 it literally wasn't
@@agnomilted5206 Sorry, there was a timeline correction. It WAS there before the Bureau of Temporal Corrections came by.
@@CptJistuce ah makes sense
There's also the TR117 that O'Brien made near the end of DS9. It is able to engage an enemy without line or sight, so if the Borg got it they could add some nanites to the projectile and assimilate people through walls.
Damn, so no bulkhead will save anyone else from the borg
That's nothing outside their reach right now, being literally a normal gun with a transporter on the end. They DEFINITELY have transporters, and almost certainly have guns(unless they discarded them as primitive and inefficient). Either gunpowder does terrible things to borg nanites, or they can't see the utility(they have been known to be quite single-minded before).
Heck, even without the transporter, a normal gun loaded with nanite bullets would greatly increase their already ruthless efficiency. It seems highly likely that the nanites are injected with a melee attack because they CAN'T be delivered by gunfire for some reason.
Most likely either the violent acceleration would damage the nanites, or they are actually reliant on the attacking drone in the first seconds of infection(perhaps the injectors also provide the power needed to construct the first implants).
Why bother with the bullet when you could just beam the nanites directly into someone's bloodstream?
@@frantisekvrana3902 Excellent point! You're thinking outside the box.
@@frantisekvrana3902 because that's too OP.
The Dyson Sphere, TNG episode "Relics (The one with Scotty) A weaponized Borg Dyson Sphere is just scary.
What if the Borg assimilated a joined Trill? The Borg would then have access to all the memories of the symbiot, including the knowledge that they eventually grow into collosal creatures and lurk in the depths of the Trill homeworld. They could go there and assimilate the elder symbiotes and gain vast amounts of knowledge.
What if the Borg assimilate Darth Vader?
Keep them away from old Nokia phones!
what about the exploding Samsung phones?!
@@nicktechnubyte1184 with those two technologies they could take over the universe
It would be the end of us all!
They would make excellent Snake players
THE real threat is the fire start apple power book
In 6:11, the Doomsday machine is mentioned. If I remember correctly, the Next Generation novel Vendetta featured the revelation that the Doomsday Machine was designed by a race of ancient builders specifically to fight the Borg.
that would be a cool concept
I love a good new idea with star trek. Good video. Haven't watched it yet but its nice to see a nice idea and I know your content lol.
The Voth are a species that the Borg would be able to assimilate and defeat if they crossed paths. If I think of a Borg cube confronting a city-sized Voth ship, the Borg would be thanking the Voth for beaming the Borg cube inside the Voth ship. All the Borg need to do is assimilate just one Voth person or one part of the Voth ship in order to start the assimilation process. After that, we would see city-sized Borg cubes - if there was any benefit to such a thing to the Borg.
I believe what would likely be a larger benefit to the Borg is a technology that may already exist for the Borg and would allow the Borg to easily show the Voth that the Voth city-sized ships are a drop in an ocean compared to the technology the Borg possess. I'm referring to the fact that I believe it may be possible for the Borg cube-shaped ships to combine with one another in order to form one much larger individual ship.
For example, we could see four Borg cube-shaped ships form one individual HUGE Borg ship. Similarly, we could see four of those HUGE ships unite to form one ENORMOUS Borg ship made up of 16 ships. Due to the fact that the Borg ships are in the shape of a "Cube," there is no reason to believe the Borg ships could not "unite" to form one GIGANTIC ship made up of THOUSANDS of ships if it actually would give the Borg an advantage to do so. The Borg would have a ship FAR LARGER than anything the Voth were capable of creating.
What about the Metrons and the Andromeda Galaxy aliens? Their tech would be a grave threat....
I would like to make an addendum to this list:
The Alteran/Lantean/Ancient Knowledge Archives from Stargate Lore. Containing the entire recorded history of the Alterans, going back at least 50 million years, placed in locations around the milky way somewhere between 30 million and 10 thousand years ago.
Sure, its a completely different franchise, but these are the people who developed Stargates (during their journey to the MW galaxy), Zero Point technology (which they had for about 10 million years or so) and is probably on par with Omega in terms of power generation, intergalactic FTL technology (which they had for the majority of their existence as a culture), drones (which are basically guided trans-phasic torpedoes), research on biological ascension (something i know the Borg would never achieve anyway, but still, they'd have the knowledge).
As for the Founders, I think it is stated in hipocrapher that the borg _tried_ to assimilate one, but their liquid biology made it near impossible for the assimilation process to take affect.
Imagine if they learned to synthesize the midichlorians from the Star Wars universe
The Pegasus replicators already had that tech yet couldn't win.
@@netgnostic1627 Another red herring as oit would equires indivuality
@@0011peace Could be, but both the Borg Queen and Locutus seem(ed) quite individual to me - so if individuality is needed to use a highly effective weapon, the Borg would find a way to create some of it, under controlled conditions
@@netgnostic1627 Locutus was special case to try to undestand humanity and individuality. Notie the queen always refered herself as we. She was the representve face like the queen bee. But, the rank and file borg had no indiviuality. But, they didn't have any artisty or other creative types in the collective.
If you remember the final episode of Deep Space 9, the doors to the base are made of "Carbon-Neutronium". That likely means the Dominion also has the technology to forge and machine a Neutronium alloy. As a result, assimilating the Dominion Founders might be enough to machine Neutronium.
Yes I noticed that most people overlooked or not noticed that little fact lol.
I really enjoyed your take on this.
don't you mean there are 97 missing changeling infants, you had the 1 that flew in space and founded the Alpha Quadrant link....but there was the infant that Soild-Exile Odo tried to teach how to change, but it died and used it's last energy to restore Odo's changing ability....that means there are 97 missing...not 98
Don't forget the Jem'hadar. imagine a drone with the strength, speed, stamina, and abilities of the dominion shock troopers, with the implants negating the addiction to the White? Resistance would truly be futile.
That’s why I think they haven’t encountered them as the Borg would be able to easily neutralize Dominion ships.
@@brittgayle467 agreed
I don't think the jem hadar could be assimilated because of their dependance on the white, too much effort to keep that drone alive. Remember, the Borg didn't consider the Kazon worth while to assimilate, they won't waste resources on the jem hadar either.
@@athrunzala6919 it's also stated in TNG that the implants provide for the body's needs, so it isn't implausible that they'd be able to remove the dependance on the white.
also, the kazon were primitive savages compared to other spacefaring races. The borg assimilated klingons and probably hirogen, so why not the Jem'hadar?
@@athrunzala6919 the Jen Hadar also had great intellect and their shrouding ability. Assimilation doesn’t require the use of every trait of the assimilated; the Borg would probably have figured out a way to eliminate the dependence upon the white.
6:08 the Borg, or Jerati Borg Queen’s ship was a Doomday machine in Picard season 2, she uses the ship to watch over the portal. Jerati Borg are provisional members of the Federation.
The creators of the show said they took a Doomsday machine in designing the ship
I think they meant that the showrunners based the ship's design on the planet-killer, not that the Borg managed to assimilate one.
@@GrandmasterDevo they actually said, the Borg assimilated a Doomsday machine
Given the facts that they have assimilated time travel (specifically that they've assimilated the ability to travel *_back_* in time), yet never have shown any use of the OP abilities listed here, we can safely assume that they never *_will_* assimilate any of them. Not today, not tomorrow, not e.v.e.r
I would also like to include phineas and ferb in this list.
Behold, the assim-inator!
@@protiod what if we let Doofinsmerts get assimilated inorder to finally put an end to the borg?
I think something like the stargate replicators would make an excellent upgrade to the Borg.
Kirk-era Starfleet had nothing which could damage neutronium armors.
But TNG's weaponry could cause damage. Albeit at a glacial rate, impractical in combat or crisis.
And Voyager's weaponry blasted through neutronium armors several times, thanks to loose writing. It's apparently not considered "impervious and invulnerable" anymore, it's just "extremely strong".
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Some things I could see as additions to this list would be cloaking tech or worse fazed cloaking. A cloaked Borg fleet or worse a Borg ship able to hide inside a planet and such or even cloaked drones could be a serious issue as well. Another would be that planet voyage found that existed in a time field that sped up their time allowing them to advance super fast and develop tech to alter the time they existed in could give the Borg the ability to speed up their own evolution or allow them to invade a ship or planet in that sped up time and assimilate the ship or planet before they even knew they were being invaded.
I think the Borg cloaking was addressed in the series. They have it, but not interested in using it.
The later seasons of Stargate had a self replicating, take over everything, robot swarm that they tried to trap on a planet. On this planet they had built a time trap that slowed down time to a crawl. Before they could activate the time dilation device the robots found the device and sped time up so they could evolve. It was a good episode.
Phased cloaking*
I don't believe the "sped up time planet" would be much benefit from the borg. You actually said what the problem would be "speed up their own evolution" Borg do not evolve, they assimilate. The only thing being on a sped up planet would do, would be to cause the organic tissue part of their body to age rapidly and die.
Think of "One" from Voyager... He was "evolved" in the sense that he was created from technology was more advanced. But a Borg on a sped up planet, would just be borg on a planet with existing borg technology.. If anything it would be the borg NOT on the planet that would start to have technology advancements, as they would be assimilating it from other species that are not on the single planet.
@@ColinRichardson But, sped up on a ship would make it reach destination faster
what about the whale probe from star Trek IV?
Was just about to ask this. In the film, the Probe's communications system was powerful enough to shut down most Starfleet systems, even massive constructs like Starbases or heavily reinforced ground-side facilities like Starfleet HQ in San Fran, practically without trying. It also started whipping up hurricanes on a global scale when it didn't hear the answers it wanted.
There was a tie-in novel called 'Probe' that focused on what happened immediately after the film, and we get a glimpse that what the machine did in the movie was a bare fraction of what it was capable of. At one point, the probe wanders into Romulan space, looking for more planets with whales, and finds one: an ocean world with a minor Romulan oceanographic research outpost. The Romulans had apparently finished their research and had shifted the outpost's operation to harvesting the creatures.
The probe was _not_ happy about that, and destroyed the outpost - though not before the doomed outpost got off a distress call. The Romulans had been tracking the probe, since they thought it was some sort of bonkers Federation trick, so the Romulans were in a position to respond in force: a powerful fleet of heavily armed warships dropped in practically on top of the probe, and opened fire.
It wasn't a battle, or even a slaughter; it was an *annihilation.*
Not one Romulan shot connected, and the probe ripped the entire task force apart in minutes.
one i think of is the Guardian of forever. while it would probably be unlikely to be assimilated it would be terrifying if the borg assimilated it because of what it can do.
Make that impossible. Beta content indicates that at least one direct organic ancestor of The Usual Q is from a different continent of the planet containing the Guardian of Forever.
@@darianleyer5777 Ah okay that is a relief then.
@@BahamutZerodragon Indeed, though anything that comes through it from another eventuality or elsewhere in the Star Trek Universe is another matter.
@@darianleyer5777 well that is just as terrifying then. i am scared.
Okay so hear me out here.
Soong knowledge of android creation.
Borg's primary weakness is lack of subtlety and having to adapt to things they've encountered in combat.
But what if they developed the capacity for subterfuge with superior cybernetics passable as human and we could no longer identify secret borg among us?
Borg spies sound utterly terrifying.
I've always wondered what would happen if the Borg ever assimilated tribbles.
BTW, I have the Borg Tribble from STO for all of my characters so I know it's possible.
The thing that most people, the star trek writers in particular, fail to grasp is that assimilation should give the borg more than just access to the technology that the species had, it allows them to use their existing tech in ways that are more powerful.
Like the Sikarian Spacial Trajector. That sort of tech should do more than give the Borg the ability to use it, it should be applied Collective wide, to every development that the Borg have. With the tech the Borg have and an understanding of the Sikarian tech, all of their cubes should merge, space folding so that going from one cube to another is the same as walking a hallway, no need for cubes to rely only on their own power systems, they can draw power from every other cube as well as drones, components for repairs, and more.
Every single assimilation where the borg gains new tech should be an exponential increase in power.
The Dominion Founders are the key for the Borg to gain the ability to assimilate Species 8472. The Dominion Founders are "changelings" that exist in "this" universe. The Borg should theoretically be able to assimilate the Dominion Founders. After that, the next step in evolution would be for the Borg to be able to assimilate the changelings from another dimension - Species 8472. As far as the Jem' Hadar are concerned, the Borg would easily be able to assimilate them. The Jem' Hadar would be useful to the Borg, because the Jem' Hadar would give the Borg the ability to grow new drones - but without the drug addiction problem.
Something the Borg would make them even more terrifying is CLOAKING technology.
They can get it from the Klingons or the Romulans.
So... I know that it is mixing franchises, but the comment about fourth-wall breaking brought this to mind. Could you imagine if the borg tried to assimilate Deadpool? I don't know if that would a bad thing, giving them access to all of his capabilities, or a good thing, since he would probably end up... well, pretty much corrupting them with his madness XD Like, could you imagine the borg collective consciousness trying to get on with things while having to deal with Wade just... messing around and fouling up their train of thought?
Data's cat, Spot. Just imagine how dangerous the Borg would be if they assimilated Spot and learned how to be so cute that people go over to make a fuss of them
i have a few to mention, lets say the Tardigrade from Discovery and the ability to use the mushroom network to appear anywhere, then there is the caretakers powers, also the Q is not a coporial being so that would never happen because they are not flesh and blood unless they make themselves so. i would be most concerned if they assimilated the ancient repository of knowledge or had the powers of the extra-galactic species 10c that can create controllable black hole/ sigularities
Some large cosmozoans like the telepathic pitcher plant to the Farpoint entity would be terrifying if assimilated and controlled by the collective.
I always thought that the greatest scene in a Star Trek movie would be several Borg cubes decloaking in front of the Enterprise
I wonder if a Founder's biology is tuned enough to fight against Borg nano machines? After all they can shapeshift.
There's also the Zalkonians who were on the verge of becoming ascended beings. What if the Borg assimilated one in the middle of their metamorphosis? There are also the Cytherians with their unknown technologies and ability to remotely bring people to them. What about Armus? And also the ancient ship Gomtuu?
Similarly, I would assume that the beings from the Voyager episode "Blink of an Eye" would be crazy advanced and effectively from the "far future" as far as technology and/or evolution goes.
The technology of the V'Ger machine race from The Motion Picture. (I really wish the origin of the Borg had been the fusion of Decker and Ilia from the end of that movie.)
2 thing´s if they managed to assimilate no one can stop them.
1: The concrete hair from janeway, once integraded into the hull no weapon can get through.
2: Disney it will f up the whole universe
Well there is also the teloseians from the original series pilot episode
I was going to make a joke about the assimilation of pleasure devices!
Assimilate Risa? Oh my!
You will be satisfied, resistance is encouraged
@@ponyperson7513 this is too clever lmao
Toktok, facebook, twitter are my top 3 things the borg should not assimilate.
*while maybe somewhat simplistic the technology employed by the exocomps ability to quickly evaluate a problem then generate the exact tool required to fix the problem as demonstrated in particle fountain episode would be rather formidable...replacing those cumbersome arms with more agile limbs...also the natural cloaking abilities of the jem hadar would be absolutely terrifying*
Given that the borg has assimilated tens of thousands of humans and federation historical records, the most terrifying prospect is a borg ship taking human drones with esper qualities to the galactic barrier and creating godlike drones.
Such drones would have no loyalty to the Collective, and like Mitchell would turn on them.
They've probably tried, they've probably learned regret.
I have some for you... Caretakers array, Omega Particles, Alpha Particles, Temporal Tech.
The Guardian of Forever. Apollo/Olympians. Landru. Plato's Stepchildren. Tremane. Charlie. Nomad. Most any of the original Star Trek's villians :P
I can't remember the name of the book, but it is TNG some time after their first encounter with the Borg. In it the Enterprise-D encounters another planet killer, and Picard remembers a history class at Starfleet Academy where he studied Kirks encounter with the original and Picard speculated that the planet killer may have been a drone sent out to attack an unknown enemy. Later on Picard realizes that the unknown enemy was most likely the Borg due to the original machine's course through the Alpha Quadrant.
Nice reminder of what it is that's supposed to make them terrifying.
There was one of those Iconian style gateways from the vacation planet Voyager encountered early on (hopefully they didn't get it from their homeworld, or if they did the residents had time to evacuate): hopefully it was just on that one cube that was cut off from whatever's left of the collective after the Voyager finale and they never got a chance to share the tech with the rest of the Borg.
I feel like the two things that would be interesting if they assimilated are;
1). Alice, the shuttle from voyager
2). Automated repair stations from enterprise
I’d love to hear your views on if these were ‘Borged’
i think it was implied, but never really proven that that repair station was (early) borg tech but not sure how it got to that part of federation space. possibly dropped off by one of the green ships the NX-01 fought against. guess we'll never really know for sure.
I feel I was confused by the video's title. I was expecting to hear about things that would destroy the Borg should they assimilate them. I know some of that was mentioned but things like the Travelers and Iconian gateways would be of a huge benefit to them. I'm not trolling just expressing my opinion. Thanks for the great content...
The Borg have shown the ability to time travel but the fact they don’t seem to use it as often as one would expect, it would seem as if it’s either incredibly difficult or they just have a greater respect for the timeline than we think.
For the sake of argument, let’s go with the former. Do the Borg stand any chance of assimilating the Sphere Builders? Assuming the Borg even know about the Temporal Cold War, would they stand a chance of gaining enough knowledge to prophet off of that time travel and then use ot more frequently?
Of course the biggest problem I see with the idea of assimilating more efficient time travel capabilities and then gifting that knowledge to their past selves is “would the Borg be able to resist assimilating themselves”?
You missed the Dyson Sphere. if the Borg ever got ahold of the Dyson Sphere it would be a mine field of resources and technology. I like to think that the reason the Dyson Sphere was never mentioned again in Star Trek is because Starfleet has been erasing the minds of all crews involved with working on the Dyson Sphere so that the Borg will not assimilate the knowledge of its position.
Great video. Totally agree