100%. even as I type this, now in Nov 2024, it's difficult to justify upgrading from AM4 to AM5, especially if using the R7 5700x3d and a good video card. It's more than enough for AAA titles especially at 1080p maxed out! For office use, I can't see the AM4 platform dying for many yrs yet, the value for money is insane and no need for a video card if using say a 3200g or any processor with an APU.
I still ended up spending £350 on my AM5 board on my move up, despite only spending £222 on my Ryzen 5 7600x, purely because as a stepping stone it made more sense to get the cheaper CPU *FOR NOW* based on the cost to performance trade off over the next few years. I could justify paying the £350 for the Steel Legend x670e, purely because the AM5 is a new socket line with AMD, meaning I'm hopeful for some good upgrade opportunities down the line, which x670e will be able to handle due to the additional PCIE gen5 and extra lanes. You could arguably make the point, that in the future the PCIE gen5 will be cheaper, negating the investment I've made now in the more expensive board, BUT regardless, that extra cost I've paid now, will be coming from whatever the cost may be down the line, and I would argue that I've taken that price hit now, to avoid buying a new motherboard entirely, AND have a much higher spec board for the years to come. The choice was simple, go hard or go home; buy an x670e and move to AM5 with DDR5/PCIE GEN5, or go with top end AM4, or top end 13th gen intel, and be chip lock due to the socket being at end of life. I made the choice to commit to what AMD will be bringing out down the line, as thus far, their innovation has been pretty promising, and they've been throwing some heavy punches at times, towards both intel and NVIDIA alike. Anyway, thought I'd share, its a personal choice at the end of the day that has to be made, and for me, I've gone through 4 separate systems, all lasting 5+ years each, and I've never fumbled on an upgrade path SO FAR, and I've always managed to stay "top spec" while keeping my average MSRP to around a 50% reduction averaged out over the years, although admittedly, this AM5 jump has been the most expensive out of all of them. Fingers crossed, and good luck to anyone joining me as a guinea pig on AM5, lol.
Hi there buddy and thank you so much for sharing with us your thoughts and decision on the matter.I really think that overall you made the right choice as it is a given by now that technology in general can't be seen as an 'investment' but rather as an expense that can get you closer or further from the highend of the moment depending on the budget.I truly believe that the AM5 route will benefit you much more in the coming years then as you said a "end of life" AM4 platform with limited upgradeability.Im very pleased with AMD overall as they seem to deliver real performance and always seem to be on the cutting edge.Surely Intel has turned away from its ways of the past but it still seems to not offer as much of a support for their CPU lineup as AMD.As per being an early adopter well,I think as with any newer tech there are potential issues but they will be ironed as it is happening right now with the x3d chips so I wouldn't worry to much as overall it is an excellent choice for you having the advantages of running the newest tech right now,with great access to performance and upgradeability and as well when you do decide to sell it will be at an increased price,leaving you with a smaller gap to fill for the upgrade.Enjoy your new system buddy and unleash the power of that AM5 💪💪
I went back and forth on if i should spend more money on the newest AM5 mobo and pcie 5.0 but honestly did so much research and as long as you get a good cpu/gpu combo there is barely any performance difference...so i ended up just spending the money on a 4070 super and a R7 5700x3d...wanted the 5800x3d but the price was ridiculous and the performance was negligible between the 5700x3d and 5800x3d...i upgraded from a 3060 ti R7 5700G....im really happy with my decision...i freaking love my 4070 super
Bought a 4070 last week and forgot that my rig was Ryzen 5 2600 that I built 5 years ago(or more). I fixed that by get my mobo bios upgraded and popped in Ryzen 7 5800x3d. All my ram and storage are upgraded couple years prior so I saved a ton lot of money for the upgrading this time around.
Hey there! Sounds like you got yourself a great machine and I would reckon that the 5800x3d is a beast that should keep you quite happy for some years to come.And the combo with the 4070 makes for a killer rig.Cheers buddy and enjoy your upgraded beast 💪💪💪
@@Tech_Fusion thanks man! I was going to upgrade to AM5 and that’s mean new set of rams that I just upgraded in 2020. I thought upgrading bios is hard to do. Turnout it was easier than installing in the new mobo itself! It was amazing how decision I’ve made 5 years ago truly reflects my spending this year. I would never feel so proud of my decision if I went to Intel route!
@@Lastskykey Not many people actually consider their upgrade path later down the road when they build a new system but it seems that you have made the right decision that saved you some money now.With this upgrade you can actually wait it out longer while the prices drop for the new stuff,all in all making it more worthwhile to upgrade later.Part of the reason I also run a AMD system is the longer generation support they offer with the motherboards and also they software support.With intel you basically get a limited suport as all new architecture of chips requires new mobos and this sucks from our consumers perspective.Getting kind of tired of the corporate greed everywhere you look... 😖.Anyway,enjoy it bud as this was the right thing to do for the time being.💪
@@Lastskykeywow! This is a bit unreal. I’m sitting here doing research for a new build, my old CPU (Ryzen 7 2700X) has my 4070 in a choke hold. I came across the 5800X3D by mistake. I thought it was an AM5 socket. Long story short, I saw this video, and your comment so I went to my mobo’s website and it does support this CPU!!!!! Your comment, saved me about $500 bucks. Thank you thank you thank you!
They did make the non versions of the zen 4 cpus and just like with AM4 they come with the coolers (6 core /stealth... 8 core prism) just in case you didn't know)
@@derbigpr500 Yeah,makes perfect sence but I would prefer it to be a choice that we as end consumers make,then to have AMD make it for us already.It's not like they are not getting their money's worth in the price of the product.Cheers bud 💪💪
@@Tech_Fusion I think AMD don't bother including cooler >= 105W TDP CPU because Wraith will barely fit and they expect you to buy custom solution (eg: AIO or beefy air cooler).
@@Tigrou7777 Hi buddy, well yeah this could be the case but still wouldn't you rather get it in the package and choose for yourself if you are going to use it or not? There are people who actually rely on the included cooling solution, rather then buying extra coolers at extra cost for their build.Maybe is just me but I feel like this would not hit their bottom line as much since the older AM4 cooler are still compatible with the new stuff so basically no new R&D was required.Cheers buddy and thanks for your though.Stay Awesome! 💪💪
Query I have a ryzen 5900x with a liquid aorus waterface 360 version one of the aorus water cooling since the x360 version of aorus has now come out - my liquid will serve me to be able to mount my aorus master x670e and ryzen 7800x3d motherboard if the anchorage of my liquid am4 It will help me to install and what temperatures should I have when playing greetings from Chile thanks
Hi buddy, I dont have the exact spec components on hand to test it out but what I can tell you is that that the 360 AIO should be well able to keep temps in check for you without issues.No thermal issues for you as far as I can see because lets face it...if the temp cant be held in check with a 360 radiator then I dont know what will.Cheers buddy from Chile 💪
Hi buddy and thanks for the info.Well with this one right here I just followed their board printed directions and installed this kit into channel A.I actually remember in my extra footage I did install it in channel B and on the boot screen I actually got a message warning of this and basically not posting further.So anyway short answer with this one right here anyway its best to just follow the manufacturers direction and install your kits in the corect slots.Cheers buddy
With this mobo right here,you can go all the way up to the Ryzen 9 7950X3D.Cheers buddy Check full list here:www.gigabyte.com/Ajax/SupportFunction/Getcpulist?Type=Product&Value=8541
@@Coronado-nz7wu Glad to be able to help out man😃.Hey quick question, so you are looking to buy him a new one for the AM4 board?Because the link with from before is for the B650 AM5 mobo that is a different standard of CPU's.The CPU's of the AM5 are not compatible with the AM4 boards.
@@Tech_Fusion Yes, I didn't want him to have to replaced his motherboard. I did catch that fact also. He has a 3600x with a 2060 Super he built in the Spring of 2020 when prices were high. I thought if he upgraded to a 5800x3d and a newer 4070ti that would get him a couple more years down the road without spending too much money. Thanks again!
@@Coronado-nz7wu Sounds like a great combo that definitely will get his system going for the next few years at least with no issues.Do be careful to have a powerful enough PSU (around 650-700watts) to cope with the boosted CPU and GPU.💪💪💪
Hey buddy,well if they were,then they wouldn't fit and the system wouldn't boot. There is a slot and a way to fit everything in one way only.Cheers buddy 💪💪
@@Tech_Fusion they will boot, just won't be running as well as they should. It's a very real physical limitation caused by the circus layouts of memory on current gen of motherboards (daisy chain).
Hi there,to keep it brief if it makes total financial sense to get the 5800X then go for it.That means if you can get it for super cheap.If anything else I see no sense in going with the old AM4 anymore.Get the AM5 and you will get a whole lot more performance for your buck even with a medium CPU.Cheers buddy
I got last year a build with the 5700G. That came with the wraith stealth cooler from AMD. That cooler can not control the temps of that octacore CPU when running full load. On Cinebench I get after 4 minutes 92 Celsius with the stealth wraith cooler. I stopped it out of fear to overheat. So in reality the stealth wraith cooler is only for up to an 4 core hyperthreading CPU when run on full load. I limit therefore the temps of the 5700G at 75 Celsius in the Bios. I do now another built and it is AM4. I just ordered the 5900X for 337$, which is overpriced for that processor by now. An Intel 12700 or 13700 is cheaper and beats in allmost all cases the now older 5900X by a margin. But since I got the AM4 motherboard I am basically limited to the 5900x, 5950x or 5800x3d. The 5950x is to expensive for what it is and its old process. So to improve a bit over the 5700G I went with the 5900X. More cores is paramount for futureproofing. The 5900X is roughly the same as the 7700X from AM5. I got Teamgroup DDR4 3200 Mhz 32 GB for 60$, an 256 GB SSD from Teamgroup for 18$, MSi B450-A Max Pro mobo, XPG Invader case, RX 6600 and 4 Arctic F12 case fans. I wished all processors had integrated graphics for display output. I dont really need any new PC but wanted to do my first built. I have still some quad core intel laptops from 2012 in perfect working order. A quad core will do anything as well as an AM5 processor. Heck lots of folks run still an duo core. But not games. My duo core Pentium netbook maxes out about to 80% the cpu on ordinary tasks on Windows 10. So an duo core has to be upgraded but an quad core runs any ordinary tasks like a champ. PCs can be endless money pits so this 5900X is my last build and I only will upgrade the GPU.
Excellent review man,thank you so much for your thoughts and experiences.💪💪.I absolutely feel you buddy because it is so easy to overspend on pc parts. Especially for the early adopters but I think the healthy way of building a PC nowadays is to start with "what do i need it for?" question.Sure having the latest and greatest is nice(for about 3 months untill something else hits the market) but definitely dont go for the 4090 if all you do is casual gaming and mostly browsing.I understand that dual cores are still a thing but in this day and age where 4k videos become the norm and everything is more and more resource intensive,indeed something with more cores makes more sense.The AM 4 CPU's still pack quite a punch and maybe now at a discount since the new AM5 is out but for sure you dont have to upgrade just yet if you are happy with the performance of that B450 and your AM4 Cpu combo.Cheers bud and thank you again for your thoughts.💪💪
@@Tech_Fusion Hi. The new Unreal engine will bring photorealistic 3D pictures (like cinema movies) for the games. The 4090 will be the lowest entry level GPU for that since it gets barely 60 fps on those graphics. Expect to pay 5000 US$ for an low mid range GPU in the future to run those astonishing fotorealistic graphics on games which are based on the Unreal engine. 10000$ for an mid high end GPU is not unrealistic when all runs on Unreal engine. I hope they do the calculation and render load mostly on the servers where the games run on since the ordinary customer will not be able to afford any hardware to run those games. I am still on 1080p, 24" and 60 Hz and the next monitor will be as well an 1080p but with 75 Hz or so but then 27" since I have to adjust to my hardware. The monitor stresses the hardware by a good bit so I stay on FHD but with a little more refresh rate as this 60 Hz. Only when this monitor fails. Best is to have an IPS monitor with eye care, flicker free and light sensor like my actual Benq has. Huge improvement for eye saving. Since I have slow internet my UA-cam is still allways on 480p so what for I need an 4K monitor when I not even use 900p on UA-cam watching? I heard UA-cam is going to charge money for FHD or 2K in the future. So for what an 1440p monitor? My RX 6600 is only an 1080p card. New hardware is like chasing a cat where the animal runs the more faster the more you speed up. So whats the point?! I did this new built as proof of concept since it is my first build. My 5700G ATX desktop I let assemble from an local shop Q1 2022. I just upgraded by flash button the Bios on the MSi B450-A Max Pro mobo (I paid 79$ for it on amazon) I have for the new build in order it accepts the 5900X. It is easy to do. I have not seen an AM5 Motherboard under 200 Dollars on amazon. I just realised the MSi B450 has one PCIE x 16 3.0 slot and the other is 2.0. So I am a bit disappointed since I assumed all x 16 where 3.0 at least. But it will for sure do what an Intel NUC does as well.
Im going am4 using the R7 5800x3d and radeon rx 6950 xt and i could save a bit on my build if i went with a different case and mobo and i could save a little bit on ram or storage if i needed. I could probably get away with $1500-$1600. Currently im going to be around $1800-1900, however im lucky cause im actually going to be spending around $1500-$1600 just cause part of my budget was a christmas present. But im getting a relatively nice budget mobo its an msi mpg x570s edge max wifi its like $230 i know i can find decent quality b550 and x570 for cheaper but this is one of the only ones ive seen that has a clear cmos button right next to the flash bios button, and im going to be putting it all in the hyte y60 case so i could definitely save in this department but i think this case just looks so badass i couldnt help it.
Hey man and firstly thank you for sharing with us your dream build.I think it will be absolutely awesome and out of my own experience when I put together my first PC that I started this channel with,I can tell you that every little bit of extra effort or money you put in to get exactly what makes you the most happy, will definitely pay off in the long run because this is surely something you put a lot of hearth in.It will make you happy and proud if it turns out just the way you want it and by the looks of it, you are well on your way for it.I think the motherboard is a excellent choice and leave plenty of upgrade potential down the road as for the CPU and GPU i do think it will keep you quite happy for the next generation games with potential to upgrade on the CPU side later thanks to the choice in mobo. Keep it up bud and enjoy that beast 💪💪💪💪💪
@@Tech_Fusion thank you so much, this is going to be my first personal desktop, every computer ive had before was a laptop and any desktops were for the house but we never had those for long cause they were rented but they couldn't really do anything in terms of gaming so I'm really excited to get this going. I want to get into streaming along with music and sound stuff, but i also want to be able to play practically whatever games come out for the next few years without having to worry too much about upgrading major parts
@@xCallMeBamx Man this sounds great, and once again I felt the same way about two years back when I put together my build.It was during Covid and things were crazy, and also with the crypto boom hammering prices for good parts but I pulled through and got all that i wanted expect for the GPU.I can't recommend enough to try and do it right the first time and although parts get expensive quick when adding all up, you will more then appreciate the build by the end.Enjoy you future gaming session buddy and keep those drums rolling.Cheers buddy 💪💪💪
@@Tech_Fusion yeah im super glad prices have come down as much as they have. Ive been watching alot of videos about parts as many people do when planning to build a pc, and seeing how expensive some of these parts were at launch during prime pandemic times is ridiculous. Even when things were starting to cool down last year, prices were still ridiculous and they kinda still are for some cards, but some have come down quite a bit, like at launch the radeon rx 6950 xt was $1100 but now you can find them for $700 brand new, which yeah its still expensive but its not $1100 expensive.
Great review Tech Fusion, it's ironic that we've got a similar Ryzen AM4 build! I was contemplating if to upgrade my processor for the 5950X and gift my daughter my current Ryzen 3900x, however, I think I'll just wait this generation out and upgrade my GPU and Nvme drives.
Hey buddy and thank you for your thoughts.Well I think that the 3900X is still a great and powerful CPU but as all tech its starting to show its age in different applications.Like i see it being a bottleneck more and more in some games that are maybe not well optimised for it,but indeed maybe not going for the 5950X and just going straight for some AM 5 might be the right way.I was also thinking about the 5950X but honestly I'll just shoot for the AM 5 because after this review I did notice a difference with the new stuff.Not enough to justify the price difference now but surely in the future when the prices will drop,it will be the right choice.Cheers buddy 💪💪💪
@@Tech_Fusion yes indeed, I can definitely see the case for jumping on the new AM5 platform, more so with the 'longevity' that it brings, by "supporting" at least 3 more generations of processors on it. My use case is more professional, and time is definitely money, so I may just upgrade and call it a day! Also, with the newer platform supporting at least 3 Nvme drives, that brings a lot of functionality to my work loads! Thanks for taking the time out to reply, appreciate it!
@@TM86880 I always answer to everyone as I dont ask for comments for the sakes of the algorithm.Yeah I was actually thinking about longevity in my previous comment but I didn't want to give a long reply,but you have a really strong point there.And since you consider your time as part of your business then indeed editing or other productivity tasks on a PC must be as snappy as possible.And well ofc things tend to move quickly in the IT space so keeping up with the tech is always important if you can afford it.Cheers bud and I really appreciate your thoughts and feedback as well.Work that 3900X a bit more till the upgrade 💪💪
@@Tech_Fusion "Work" is the understatement of the year! Yes, finding the right balance of when to upgrade/when to build new is really tough, however, I think the best idea is to allow the software/jobs to dictate when is the right time to 'move on'. Will keep my eye out on your channel going forward, definitely have a sub with me!
@@TM86880 Thank you kindly for the sub man, and if I may another short piece of my mind here: Balance is definitely a good thing and needed but do be careful when choosing the software to dictate the upgrade times as it seems to me that companies are getting more greedy by the day and will stop at nothing to make us (the consumers) spend more and get less as often as possbile.Cheers bud and also don't forget I'm always opened to ideas and suggestion so if you want to see a review of a certain product, drop a comment and you have my promises that I will take it into consideration.
I sent my whole PC in to Xidax (the people who built my PC) since they offer a lifetime warranty on PC built by them (And yes, they do charge a pretty penny for that, but the offered a free replacement for main m.2 that turned out the be the issue why It wouldn't boot...AFTER NO ISSUES AT ALL FOR THREE YEARS. Anyway, ultimately my AM4 motherboard bottlenecked me. I installed simple stuff, and even has a successful install of the GPU (I though I had failed that but I guess not) While it was there though, I decided to have THEM tear out the motherboard, put in a AM5 one and...yes, I put in a new CPU with the GPU. New RAM too. And expensive $1600 upgrade but once again these all have lifetime warranties on them and... Honestly this was the first time I tested them. For the record I COULD have gotten a no charge replacement for the dead drive and paid nothing but...I WANTED THE NEW CPU AND THAT MEANT NEW MOTHERBOARD WAS MANDATORY. Considering I just paid HALF what I did 3 years ago to upgrade what matters...BIG WIN to me. Anyway, I'm good because NOW...I'm running a AM5 motherboard (and I didn't make the second mistake twice - wifi is built in to this one, so I won't have to use a slot for the card! Also I did actually only pay 1350 in the end cause they shockingly took my old CPU as a trade in for 250 DID I MAKE I MISTAKE GOING TO AM5??? SHOULD I have only paid 50 extra for a bigger m.2 as my main drive (Past on the past 3 years I new once I got a clean install I would swap the 1TB to a 2TB. Ironically, it's actually happened. Careful what you'd wish for?)
Hey buddy, well first of all there is no argue over what service you chose to pay for.If you feel like you should pay a pretty penny for a lifetime warranty on your build, then more power to you man. Just a mention on my behalf would be to take care of this in the future as hardware is for the most part quite reliable and usually the 1-2 years of individual warranty offered by the manufacturers for the different parts is ok for 99% of the consumers. Sure mishaps can happen like your experience with the m.2 drive but usually this comes mostly down to how much data you write and read from them as this is what ultimately "consumes" them. What I am a bit unsure is how a free replacement (actually paid by you with the lifetime warranty service) would look like for lets say the old AM4 board with the CPU, some 5-6 years down the line when anyway it might be time to upgrade and the rebate value you will get back from the old parts might be so small that it may not even count towards the upgrade you might be looking for at that point anyway.If you would want a straight out replacement of the parts at the point it might not even be possible due to the scarcity of new/old stock for your model of mobo and cpu so they might have to upgrade you for free to the new models or they might charge something extra for that as well. I'm not sure how this lifetime service works for something as fast evolving as the IT components are in this market and overall I feel a bit sceptical of overpaying for a service such as this. I think it comes down to some reasonable cost, maybe paying some 20-30% extra on top of the parts and labour for this service, I would consider it ok, but to ask maybe 2-3 times the cost of the parts and labour I would not be ok with. But then again man, your choice and more power to you and surely if you can afford it then I see it as one less headache to have in the future. As per your choice? Surely is the right thing to do if you had the money to go for the AM5 platform as it offers more future-proofing of course and not only that but it offers access to faster DDR5 RAM, new PCIe Gen 5 SSD's,faster processors and overall it is a step in the right direction when making sure you run all your aux hardware like you GPU at their full potential along with its software. Also my personal opinion is that the manufacturers should not even have different skews of the same motherboard, one with wifi and one without as honestly I find this to be the norm anyway and I don't really think it costs them extra to incorporate this in the products stacks. A'right buddy, long reply over, just had to speak my mind and get back to you in a meaningful way. Cheers buddy, stay frosty and enjoy your new powerhouse of a PC.
@@Tech_Fusion @TechFusion Sorry if I came off as a Xidax sponsor or something. Honestly they were just the fastest people who could get me a 3080 lol. And this was my first gaming PC. I'm not a hardcore gamer so I don't actually rip the thing apart. Adding storage was hard enough. But thanks for putting my mind at ease and to add ONE CLARIFYING FACTOR: The PC is three years old so the drive probably wouldn't have been covered by the manufacturer. Who knows...
@@bsperoz No worries buddy, you didn't come off as a Xidax Sponsor and I'm glad I could help cast some light on things.The idea is that I understand there are always reasons why people choose certain services and if this was you way to a 3080 fast then once again that great 💪💪 .Cheers buddy and enjoy your new system as it should keep you quite happy for a couple of years.
i went with a Ryzen 7 5800X3D because not only it was cheaper, 1st of all i'm commin' from an i7 4790k to a Ryzen 7 5800X3D so yea anything was an upgrade for me, oh and now there's news AM5 CPUs are now exploding oof
Hi there buddy and thanks for the info,well yeah indeed anything was an upgrade at that point but I would stress to much about the cases of burning CPU's and mobo at this point.Not to much anyway because if this is a fresh new build for you with new parts,they are under warranty firstly and secondly at the moment this are just a few incidents at the moment.It seems that steps to prevent the failures are underway with bios updates for the mobo that limits the CPU power draw under certain scenarios and I would hope that this isn't just a bandaid.The financial market is huge and the cost to both consumers and image of the companies are big so I would think that this wont be a whole wide circus show for both AMD and the board partners.If I were you though, I would steer clean of doing any sort of OC's on the CPU for the time being.At least until this whole thing gets sorted.Otherwise buddy I think you made a great choice that should keep you very happy for a very long time.Cheers 💪💪💪
@@blakedmc1989RaveHD Well then, if you are not Oc'ing and hardware is new then don't worry.Use it just as you would and enjoy it buddy.It really think it is an upgrade and you will feel it.Cheers bud
@@Tech_Fusion I have a R5 3600 and 2070 Super, would a 5800X3d be a good upgrade for me? I plan on staying with Am4 for at least 4 years, I will upgrade GPU in 1 year or 18 months
AMD PGA (am4) socket has been rock solid for ages, I don't see myself upgrading to LGA am5 socket until my current pc completely dies, those LGA sockets suffer from de-soldering problems cause by the extreme heat, the main reason why I moved from intel to AMD was exactly that problem, constant unexpected BSOD's caused by the heat sensors in the LGA socket made me so angry that I ditch the blue and the green guys (intel/nvidia) for an all RED built, yes nvidia GPU's also suffers from heating and de-soldering issues even more, I hope AMD realizes that and comes back to AM4 platform in the near future, so I'll wait maybe >>> LOL
Hi there buddy.You know unfortunately there seems to be no more right choices when it comes to anything really and this seems to be specially true for PC electronics.No matter what the cost there always seems to be un underling problem with components as companies get more greedier by the day and fail to reflect the increased price with quality in exchange.Im actually pissed and disappointed that this is such a common trend with more and more companies as of late.A piece of my mind tells me that we should all quit buying newer tech and hit their bottom line so that we should get the point across.So yeah short answer is,wait it out buddy.Cheers 💪💪💪
Because of the design of the AM5 chips, there is a 98.7% chance you will be flicking thermal paste out from between the crevasses with a toothbrush and alcohol.
The wraith prism isn't a useless cooler it actually does a very good job cooling the cpu just search on here "wraith prism cooler" and you'll see it's much better that the ones you get with the 6core amd cpu.
I agree. Unlike Intel who send a useless Cooler which no one uses, and its a Plastic waste, AMD knows thier wraith prism cooler are already not being used in current market and its just $35 for Deepcool's tower cooler.
im going 13600k cpu..ddr4 ...6950xt amd...new platform is way to tricky...millions of settings i have to do in bios to balance my system...i dont want to pay to be a tester for them...
Hi there and thank you for your thoughts.Its look like a good all round balanced configuration you chose there.Yes AMD has its trouble right now with its boards and CPU of 7000 series but this problems will be ironed out.Its not excusable at the price point of new tech components these days but it is what it is unfortunately.I would suspect a drop in prices from the board manufactures and AMD as it would be the logical step in trying to reduce the backlash but we dont know what normal is anymore so at least I'm hoping for more then just a band aid fix through bios limitation on the board as there seems to be actual hardware level problems.Anyway overall my experience with the above setup was quite enjoyable overall and maybe its just me but I'm still rooting for AMD in correcting its mistakes as it proved to be offering real performance for reasonable prices for the past years, taking the crown away from Intel and their lack of real innovation for about 10 years or more.Cheers buddy
@@Tech_Fusion thx for the response man:) hint towards 78003xd?...and go to a AMD full build? im gaming 12 h/day star citizen:) and the new system was pointed towards that...thx
@@donvancu Hey bud,I'll always take time to respond so no sweat.I think you are the first one i hear first hand playing star citizen so more power to you man.I might be bias to lean towards the AMD builds as all my experience with it has been super good and even my own rig is based on the older gen AM4 but i will be upgrading towards the AM5 since i find the support offered being better then Intel.Firstly AMD actually keeps the same CPU socket for multiple generations and so you will find yourself in a better spot when deciding to upgrade your CPU later on,without having to change the motherboard.That a big plus in itself and secondly I love the fact that there is none of that BS with overclocking here as there is with the K series from Intel.All AMD CPU's come unlocked and not only that but actually rather going in and setting the max OC on all cores with AMD is much better to let it do it for you depending on the load as you get better performance that way then just going full speed on all cores.Oh and regarding the OC on AMD, it can do it indefinetly unlike Intel that has a time limit on its OC.Downsides?Well generally the Intel CPU's hit rather higher speeds but that is not all in the CPU world when it comes to performance.Anyway in regards to the rest of the specs,both platform obviously support DDR5 that is a huge leap forward in performance and other then my rant here I honestly think you will be getting great performance for anything(not just Star Citizen) with any route you choose.You could make it a price thing as well and you could find that the AMD path might be cheaper but dont quote me on it as you can find deal and offers on both sides.Cheers buddy and sorry for the long reply but when it comes to this subject,the comment section isnt always enough 😅💪💪💪
@@Tech_Fusion thx man for the response,i always appreciate someone who knows tech and have a way better understanding of what these systems can do...i was an intel fan..but now...i think i will go full amd just to see how it is..:) maybe a 78003xd or 7600x...6950 xt..ddr5...psu 1000w..and for mobo is look for something with wifi6e on it..thx again man :) you are the best:)
I also had a similar issue with a mobo that came dead on arrival.I was greated with an "over voltage protection,need to shut down" message when I would boot.Some times this things happen I guess
@Tech_Fusion i found out that it was because i was using a wireless kb, and pressing f2 showed no response due to the kb not connecting fast enough before boot
![Are AM4 CPUs Getting Cheaper? Is AM5 Support In Question? November Q&A [Part 2]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/EV5OsXiOQk4/mqdefault.jpg)
Just get AM4 zen 3 if you only play at 1080p/1440p
100%. even as I type this, now in Nov 2024, it's difficult to justify upgrading from AM4 to AM5, especially if using the R7 5700x3d and a good video card. It's more than enough for AAA titles especially at 1080p maxed out! For office use, I can't see the AM4 platform dying for many yrs yet, the value for money is insane and no need for a video card if using say a 3200g or any processor with an APU.
I still ended up spending £350 on my AM5 board on my move up, despite only spending £222 on my Ryzen 5 7600x, purely because as a stepping stone it made more sense to get the cheaper CPU *FOR NOW* based on the cost to performance trade off over the next few years. I could justify paying the £350 for the Steel Legend x670e, purely because the AM5 is a new socket line with AMD, meaning I'm hopeful for some good upgrade opportunities down the line, which x670e will be able to handle due to the additional PCIE gen5 and extra lanes.
You could arguably make the point, that in the future the PCIE gen5 will be cheaper, negating the investment I've made now in the more expensive board, BUT regardless, that extra cost I've paid now, will be coming from whatever the cost may be down the line, and I would argue that I've taken that price hit now, to avoid buying a new motherboard entirely, AND have a much higher spec board for the years to come. The choice was simple, go hard or go home; buy an x670e and move to AM5 with DDR5/PCIE GEN5, or go with top end AM4, or top end 13th gen intel, and be chip lock due to the socket being at end of life. I made the choice to commit to what AMD will be bringing out down the line, as thus far, their innovation has been pretty promising, and they've been throwing some heavy punches at times, towards both intel and NVIDIA alike.
Anyway, thought I'd share, its a personal choice at the end of the day that has to be made, and for me, I've gone through 4 separate systems, all lasting 5+ years each, and I've never fumbled on an upgrade path SO FAR, and I've always managed to stay "top spec" while keeping my average MSRP to around a 50% reduction averaged out over the years, although admittedly, this AM5 jump has been the most expensive out of all of them. Fingers crossed, and good luck to anyone joining me as a guinea pig on AM5, lol.
Hi there buddy and thank you so much for sharing with us your thoughts and decision on the matter.I really think that overall you made the right choice as it is a given by now that technology in general can't be seen as an 'investment' but rather as an expense that can get you closer or further from the highend of the moment depending on the budget.I truly believe that the AM5 route will benefit you much more in the coming years then as you said a "end of life" AM4 platform with limited upgradeability.Im very pleased with AMD overall as they seem to deliver real performance and always seem to be on the cutting edge.Surely Intel has turned away from its ways of the past but it still seems to not offer as much of a support for their CPU lineup as AMD.As per being an early adopter well,I think as with any newer tech there are potential issues but they will be ironed as it is happening right now with the x3d chips so I wouldn't worry to much as overall it is an excellent choice for you having the advantages of running the newest tech right now,with great access to performance and upgradeability and as well when you do decide to sell it will be at an increased price,leaving you with a smaller gap to fill for the upgrade.Enjoy your new system buddy and unleash the power of that AM5 💪💪
I went back and forth on if i should spend more money on the newest AM5 mobo and pcie 5.0 but honestly did so much research and as long as you get a good cpu/gpu combo there is barely any performance difference...so i ended up just spending the money on a 4070 super and a R7 5700x3d...wanted the 5800x3d but the price was ridiculous and the performance was negligible between the 5700x3d and 5800x3d...i upgraded from a 3060 ti R7 5700G....im really happy with my decision...i freaking love my 4070 super
Bought a 4070 last week and forgot that my rig was Ryzen 5 2600 that I built 5 years ago(or more). I fixed that by get my mobo bios upgraded and popped in Ryzen 7 5800x3d. All my ram and storage are upgraded couple years prior so I saved a ton lot of money for the upgrading this time around.
Hey there! Sounds like you got yourself a great machine and I would reckon that the 5800x3d is a beast that should keep you quite happy for some years to come.And the combo with the 4070 makes for a killer rig.Cheers buddy and enjoy your upgraded beast 💪💪💪
@@Tech_Fusion thanks man! I was going to upgrade to AM5 and that’s mean new set of rams that I just upgraded in 2020. I thought upgrading bios is hard to do. Turnout it was easier than installing in the new mobo itself! It was amazing how decision I’ve made 5 years ago truly reflects my spending this year. I would never feel so proud of my decision if I went to Intel route!
@@Lastskykey Not many people actually consider their upgrade path later down the road when they build a new system but it seems that you have made the right decision that saved you some money now.With this upgrade you can actually wait it out longer while the prices drop for the new stuff,all in all making it more worthwhile to upgrade later.Part of the reason I also run a AMD system is the longer generation support they offer with the motherboards and also they software support.With intel you basically get a limited suport as all new architecture of chips requires new mobos and this sucks from our consumers perspective.Getting kind of tired of the corporate greed everywhere you look... 😖.Anyway,enjoy it bud as this was the right thing to do for the time being.💪
@@Lastskykeywow! This is a bit unreal. I’m sitting here doing research for a new build, my old CPU (Ryzen 7 2700X) has my 4070 in a choke hold. I came across the 5800X3D by mistake. I thought it was an AM5 socket. Long story short, I saw this video, and your comment so I went to my mobo’s website and it does support this CPU!!!!! Your comment, saved me about $500 bucks. Thank you thank you thank you!
They did make the non versions of the zen 4 cpus and just like with AM4 they come with the coolers (6 core /stealth... 8 core prism)
just in case you didn't know)
The slightly cheaper non X 7000 chips come with a cooler
So its a damn shame that for the more expensive lineup they don't give us a cooler....especially since old AM4 coolers fit on the AM5.Cheers buddy
@@Tech_Fusion More expensive ones assume you'll get an aftermarket cooler anyway since it's a more expensive build.
@@derbigpr500 Yeah,makes perfect sence but I would prefer it to be a choice that we as end consumers make,then to have AMD make it for us already.It's not like they are not getting their money's worth in the price of the product.Cheers bud 💪💪
@@Tech_Fusion I think AMD don't bother including cooler >= 105W TDP CPU because Wraith will barely fit and they expect you to buy custom solution (eg: AIO or beefy air cooler).
@@Tigrou7777 Hi buddy, well yeah this could be the case but still wouldn't you rather get it in the package and choose for yourself if you are going to use it or not? There are people who actually rely on the included cooling solution, rather then buying extra coolers at extra cost for their build.Maybe is just me but I feel like this would not hit their bottom line as much since the older AM4 cooler are still compatible with the new stuff so basically no new R&D was required.Cheers buddy and thanks for your though.Stay Awesome! 💪💪
Query I have a ryzen 5900x with a liquid aorus waterface 360 version one of the aorus water cooling since the x360 version of aorus has now come out - my liquid will serve me to be able to mount my aorus master x670e and ryzen 7800x3d motherboard if the anchorage of my liquid am4 It will help me to install and what temperatures should I have when playing greetings from Chile thanks
Hi buddy, I dont have the exact spec components on hand to test it out but what I can tell you is that that the 360 AIO should be well able to keep temps in check for you without issues.No thermal issues for you as far as I can see because lets face it...if the temp cant be held in check with a 360 radiator then I dont know what will.Cheers buddy from Chile 💪
Very informative review, thank you!
Glad it helped out and thank you.Cheers buddy 💪
I don't know that AM5 motherboard in particular but in most of them you're better off installing the sticks of RAM on the other two banks.
Hi buddy and thanks for the info.Well with this one right here I just followed their board printed directions and installed this kit into channel A.I actually remember in my extra footage I did install it in channel B and on the boot screen I actually got a message warning of this and basically not posting further.So anyway short answer with this one right here anyway its best to just follow the manufacturers direction and install your kits in the corect slots.Cheers buddy
What is the maximum cpu upgrade from a Ryzen 3600x without changing the mobo?
With this mobo right here,you can go all the way up to the Ryzen 9 7950X3D.Cheers buddy
Check full list here:www.gigabyte.com/Ajax/SupportFunction/Getcpulist?Type=Product&Value=8541
@@Tech_Fusion Thanks so much! I wanted to buy my Son a new processors to replace his. I think the right one is the 5800x3d for his AM4 motherboard.
@@Coronado-nz7wu Glad to be able to help out man😃.Hey quick question, so you are looking to buy him a new one for the AM4 board?Because the link with from before is for the B650 AM5 mobo that is a different standard of CPU's.The CPU's of the AM5 are not compatible with the AM4 boards.
@@Tech_Fusion Yes, I didn't want him to have to replaced his motherboard. I did catch that fact also. He has a 3600x with a 2060 Super he built in the Spring of 2020 when prices were high. I thought if he upgraded to a 5800x3d and a newer 4070ti that would get him a couple more years down the road without spending too much money. Thanks again!
@@Coronado-nz7wu Sounds like a great combo that definitely will get his system going for the next few years at least with no issues.Do be careful to have a powerful enough PSU (around 650-700watts) to cope with the boosted CPU and GPU.💪💪💪
your ram sticks seemed to be in the wrong slots...
Hey buddy,well if they were,then they wouldn't fit and the system wouldn't boot. There is a slot and a way to fit everything in one way only.Cheers buddy 💪💪
@@Tech_Fusion they will boot, just won't be running as well as they should. It's a very real physical limitation caused by the circus layouts of memory on current gen of motherboards (daisy chain).
Should I get an am5 updgarde which in total will cost me 400 or should I just upgrade to the ryzen 7 5800x?
Hi there,to keep it brief if it makes total financial sense to get the 5800X then go for it.That means if you can get it for super cheap.If anything else I see no sense in going with the old AM4 anymore.Get the AM5 and you will get a whole lot more performance for your buck even with a medium CPU.Cheers buddy
new ram, mobo, psu and cpu cooler
how is it only costing you 400 to upgrade?
because i dont upgrade the psu
@alexfer5298 but still ram and motherboard aint cheap
I got last year a build with the 5700G. That came with the wraith stealth cooler from AMD. That cooler can not control the temps of that octacore CPU when running full load. On Cinebench I get after 4 minutes 92 Celsius with the stealth wraith cooler. I stopped it out of fear to overheat. So in reality the stealth wraith cooler is only for up to an 4 core hyperthreading CPU when run on full load. I limit therefore the temps of the 5700G at 75 Celsius in the Bios.
I do now another built and it is AM4. I just ordered the 5900X for 337$, which is overpriced for that processor by now. An Intel 12700 or 13700 is cheaper and beats in allmost all cases the now older 5900X by a margin.
But since I got the AM4 motherboard I am basically limited to the 5900x, 5950x or 5800x3d. The 5950x is to expensive for what it is and its old process. So to improve a bit over the 5700G I went with the 5900X. More cores is paramount for futureproofing.
The 5900X is roughly the same as the 7700X from AM5.
I got Teamgroup DDR4 3200 Mhz 32 GB for 60$, an 256 GB SSD from Teamgroup for 18$, MSi B450-A Max Pro mobo, XPG Invader case, RX 6600 and 4 Arctic F12 case fans.
I wished all processors had integrated graphics for display output. I dont really need any new PC but wanted to do my first built. I have still some quad core intel laptops from 2012 in perfect working order. A quad core will do anything as well as an AM5 processor. Heck lots of folks run still an duo core. But not games. My duo core Pentium netbook maxes out about to 80% the cpu on ordinary tasks on Windows 10. So an duo core has to be upgraded but an quad core runs any ordinary tasks like a champ. PCs can be endless money pits so this 5900X is my last build and I only will upgrade the GPU.
Excellent review man,thank you so much for your thoughts and experiences.💪💪.I absolutely feel you buddy because it is so easy to overspend on pc parts. Especially for the early adopters but I think the healthy way of building a PC nowadays is to start with "what do i need it for?" question.Sure having the latest and greatest is nice(for about 3 months untill something else hits the market) but definitely dont go for the 4090 if all you do is casual gaming and mostly browsing.I understand that dual cores are still a thing but in this day and age where 4k videos become the norm and everything is more and more resource intensive,indeed something with more cores makes more sense.The AM 4 CPU's still pack quite a punch and maybe now at a discount since the new AM5 is out but for sure you dont have to upgrade just yet if you are happy with the performance of that B450 and your AM4 Cpu combo.Cheers bud and thank you again for your thoughts.💪💪
@@Tech_Fusion Hi. The new Unreal engine will bring photorealistic 3D pictures (like cinema movies) for the games. The 4090 will be the lowest entry level GPU for that since it gets barely 60 fps on those graphics. Expect to pay 5000 US$ for an low mid range GPU in the future to run those astonishing fotorealistic graphics on games which are based on the Unreal engine. 10000$ for an mid high end GPU is not unrealistic when all runs on Unreal engine. I hope they do the calculation and render load mostly on the servers where the games run on since the ordinary customer will not be able to afford any hardware to run those games. I am still on 1080p, 24" and 60 Hz and the next monitor will be as well an 1080p but with 75 Hz or so but then 27" since I have to adjust to my hardware. The monitor stresses the hardware by a good bit so I stay on FHD but with a little more refresh rate as this 60 Hz. Only when this monitor fails. Best is to have an IPS monitor with eye care, flicker free and light sensor like my actual Benq has. Huge improvement for eye saving.
Since I have slow internet my UA-cam is still allways on 480p so what for I need an 4K monitor when I not even use 900p on UA-cam watching? I heard UA-cam is going to charge money for FHD or 2K in the future. So for what an 1440p monitor? My RX 6600 is only an 1080p card.
New hardware is like chasing a cat where the animal runs the more faster the more you speed up. So whats the point?!
I did this new built as proof of concept since it is my first build. My 5700G ATX desktop I let assemble from an local shop Q1 2022. I just upgraded by flash button the Bios on the MSi B450-A Max Pro mobo (I paid 79$ for it on amazon) I have for the new build in order it accepts the 5900X. It is easy to do. I have not seen an AM5 Motherboard under 200 Dollars on amazon. I just realised the MSi B450 has one PCIE x 16 3.0 slot and the other is 2.0. So I am a bit disappointed since I assumed all x 16 where 3.0 at least. But it will for sure do what an Intel NUC does as well.
Im going am4 using the R7 5800x3d and radeon rx 6950 xt and i could save a bit on my build if i went with a different case and mobo and i could save a little bit on ram or storage if i needed. I could probably get away with $1500-$1600. Currently im going to be around $1800-1900, however im lucky cause im actually going to be spending around $1500-$1600 just cause part of my budget was a christmas present. But im getting a relatively nice budget mobo its an msi mpg x570s edge max wifi its like $230 i know i can find decent quality b550 and x570 for cheaper but this is one of the only ones ive seen that has a clear cmos button right next to the flash bios button, and im going to be putting it all in the hyte y60 case so i could definitely save in this department but i think this case just looks so badass i couldnt help it.
Hey man and firstly thank you for sharing with us your dream build.I think it will be absolutely awesome and out of my own experience when I put together my first PC that I started this channel with,I can tell you that every little bit of extra effort or money you put in to get exactly what makes you the most happy, will definitely pay off in the long run because this is surely something you put a lot of hearth in.It will make you happy and proud if it turns out just the way you want it and by the looks of it, you are well on your way for it.I think the motherboard is a excellent choice and leave plenty of upgrade potential down the road as for the CPU and GPU i do think it will keep you quite happy for the next generation games with potential to upgrade on the CPU side later thanks to the choice in mobo. Keep it up bud and enjoy that beast 💪💪💪💪💪
@@Tech_Fusion thank you so much, this is going to be my first personal desktop, every computer ive had before was a laptop and any desktops were for the house but we never had those for long cause they were rented but they couldn't really do anything in terms of gaming so I'm really excited to get this going. I want to get into streaming along with music and sound stuff, but i also want to be able to play practically whatever games come out for the next few years without having to worry too much about upgrading major parts
@@xCallMeBamx Man this sounds great, and once again I felt the same way about two years back when I put together my build.It was during Covid and things were crazy, and also with the crypto boom hammering prices for good parts but I pulled through and got all that i wanted expect for the GPU.I can't recommend enough to try and do it right the first time and although parts get expensive quick when adding all up, you will more then appreciate the build by the end.Enjoy you future gaming session buddy and keep those drums rolling.Cheers buddy 💪💪💪
@@Tech_Fusion yeah im super glad prices have come down as much as they have. Ive been watching alot of videos about parts as many people do when planning to build a pc, and seeing how expensive some of these parts were at launch during prime pandemic times is ridiculous. Even when things were starting to cool down last year, prices were still ridiculous and they kinda still are for some cards, but some have come down quite a bit, like at launch the radeon rx 6950 xt was $1100 but now you can find them for $700 brand new, which yeah its still expensive but its not $1100 expensive.
for that price you coulda went am5
Great review Tech Fusion, it's ironic that we've got a similar Ryzen AM4 build! I was contemplating if to upgrade my processor for the 5950X and gift my daughter my current Ryzen 3900x, however, I think I'll just wait this generation out and upgrade my GPU and Nvme drives.
Hey buddy and thank you for your thoughts.Well I think that the 3900X is still a great and powerful CPU but as all tech its starting to show its age in different applications.Like i see it being a bottleneck more and more in some games that are maybe not well optimised for it,but indeed maybe not going for the 5950X and just going straight for some AM 5 might be the right way.I was also thinking about the 5950X but honestly I'll just shoot for the AM 5 because after this review I did notice a difference with the new stuff.Not enough to justify the price difference now but surely in the future when the prices will drop,it will be the right choice.Cheers buddy 💪💪💪
@@Tech_Fusion yes indeed, I can definitely see the case for jumping on the new AM5 platform, more so with the 'longevity' that it brings, by "supporting" at least 3 more generations of processors on it.
My use case is more professional, and time is definitely money, so I may just upgrade and call it a day! Also, with the newer platform supporting at least 3 Nvme drives, that brings a lot of functionality to my work loads!
Thanks for taking the time out to reply, appreciate it!
@@TM86880 I always answer to everyone as I dont ask for comments for the sakes of the algorithm.Yeah I was actually thinking about longevity in my previous comment but I didn't want to give a long reply,but you have a really strong point there.And since you consider your time as part of your business then indeed editing or other productivity tasks on a PC must be as snappy as possible.And well ofc things tend to move quickly in the IT space so keeping up with the tech is always important if you can afford it.Cheers bud and I really appreciate your thoughts and feedback as well.Work that 3900X a bit more till the upgrade 💪💪
@@Tech_Fusion "Work" is the understatement of the year!
Yes, finding the right balance of when to upgrade/when to build new is really tough, however, I think the best idea is to allow the software/jobs to dictate when is the right time to 'move on'.
Will keep my eye out on your channel going forward, definitely have a sub with me!
@@TM86880 Thank you kindly for the sub man, and if I may another short piece of my mind here: Balance is definitely a good thing and needed but do be careful when choosing the software to dictate the upgrade times as it seems to me that companies are getting more greedy by the day and will stop at nothing to make us (the consumers) spend more and get less as often as possbile.Cheers bud and also don't forget I'm always opened to ideas and suggestion so if you want to see a review of a certain product, drop a comment and you have my promises that I will take it into consideration.
I sent my whole PC in to Xidax (the people who built my PC) since they offer a lifetime warranty on PC built by them (And yes, they do charge a pretty penny for that, but the offered a free replacement for main m.2 that turned out the be the issue why It wouldn't boot...AFTER NO ISSUES AT ALL FOR THREE YEARS.
Anyway, ultimately my AM4 motherboard bottlenecked me. I installed simple stuff, and even has a successful install of the GPU (I though I had failed that but I guess not)
While it was there though, I decided to have THEM tear out the motherboard, put in a AM5 one and...yes, I put in a new CPU with the GPU. New RAM too. And expensive $1600 upgrade but once again these all have lifetime warranties on them and...
Honestly this was the first time I tested them. For the record I COULD have gotten a no charge replacement for the dead drive and paid nothing but...I WANTED THE NEW CPU AND THAT MEANT NEW MOTHERBOARD WAS MANDATORY.
Considering I just paid HALF what I did 3 years ago to upgrade what matters...BIG WIN to me.
Anyway, I'm good because NOW...I'm running a AM5 motherboard (and I didn't make the second mistake twice - wifi is built in to this one, so I won't have to use a slot for the card! Also I did actually only pay 1350 in the end cause they shockingly took my old CPU as a trade in for 250
DID I MAKE I MISTAKE GOING TO AM5??? SHOULD I have only paid 50 extra for a bigger m.2 as my main drive (Past on the past 3 years I new once I got a clean install I would swap the 1TB to a 2TB. Ironically, it's actually happened. Careful what you'd wish for?)
Hey buddy, well first of all there is no argue over what service you chose to pay for.If you feel like you should pay a pretty penny for a lifetime warranty on your build, then more power to you man.
Just a mention on my behalf would be to take care of this in the future as hardware is for the most part quite reliable and usually the 1-2 years of individual warranty offered by the manufacturers for the different parts is ok for 99% of the consumers.
Sure mishaps can happen like your experience with the m.2 drive but usually this comes mostly down to how much data you write and read from them as this is what ultimately "consumes" them.
What I am a bit unsure is how a free replacement (actually paid by you with the lifetime warranty service) would look like for lets say the old AM4 board with the CPU, some 5-6 years down the line when anyway it might be time to upgrade and the rebate value you will get back from the old parts might be so small that it may not even count towards the upgrade you might be looking for at that point anyway.If you would want a straight out replacement of the parts at the point it might not even be possible due to the scarcity of new/old stock for your model of mobo and cpu so they might have to upgrade you for free to the new models or they might charge something extra for that as well.
I'm not sure how this lifetime service works for something as fast evolving as the IT components are in this market and overall I feel a bit sceptical of overpaying for a service such as this.
I think it comes down to some reasonable cost, maybe paying some 20-30% extra on top of the parts and labour for this service, I would consider it ok, but to ask maybe 2-3 times the cost of the parts and labour I would not be ok with.
But then again man, your choice and more power to you and surely if you can afford it then I see it as one less headache to have in the future.
As per your choice? Surely is the right thing to do if you had the money to go for the AM5 platform as it offers more future-proofing of course and not only that but it offers access to faster DDR5 RAM, new PCIe Gen 5 SSD's,faster processors and overall it is a step in the right direction when making sure you run all your aux hardware like you GPU at their full potential along with its software.
Also my personal opinion is that the manufacturers should not even have different skews of the same motherboard, one with wifi and one without as honestly I find this to be the norm anyway and I don't really think it costs them extra to incorporate this in the products stacks.
A'right buddy, long reply over, just had to speak my mind and get back to you in a meaningful way.
Cheers buddy, stay frosty and enjoy your new powerhouse of a PC.
@@Tech_Fusion @TechFusion Sorry if I came off as a Xidax sponsor or something. Honestly they were just the fastest people who could get me a 3080 lol. And this was my first gaming PC. I'm not a hardcore gamer so I don't actually rip the thing apart. Adding storage was hard enough.
But thanks for putting my mind at ease and to add ONE CLARIFYING FACTOR: The PC is three years old so the drive probably wouldn't have been covered by the manufacturer. Who knows...
@@bsperoz No worries buddy, you didn't come off as a Xidax Sponsor and I'm glad I could help cast some light on things.The idea is that I understand there are always reasons why people choose certain services and if this was you way to a 3080 fast then once again that great 💪💪
.Cheers buddy and enjoy your new system as it should keep you quite happy for a couple of years.
@@Tech_Fusion actually I upgraded to 7900XTX (NOT the reference models lol)
EDIT: Xidax carried the one by Taichi so that's what I got.
@@bsperoz 7900XTX sounds great actually.How is it,happy with it?Oh and btw the Taichi its a super nice mobo design.Cheers bud
3900x to a 7600x nah 7950x or 7800x3d 😅
i went with a Ryzen 7 5800X3D because not only it was cheaper, 1st of all i'm commin' from an i7 4790k to a Ryzen 7 5800X3D so yea anything was an upgrade for me, oh and now there's news AM5 CPUs are now exploding oof
Hi there buddy and thanks for the info,well yeah indeed anything was an upgrade at that point but I would stress to much about the cases of burning CPU's and mobo at this point.Not to much anyway because if this is a fresh new build for you with new parts,they are under warranty firstly and secondly at the moment this are just a few incidents at the moment.It seems that steps to prevent the failures are underway with bios updates for the mobo that limits the CPU power draw under certain scenarios and I would hope that this isn't just a bandaid.The financial market is huge and the cost to both consumers and image of the companies are big so I would think that this wont be a whole wide circus show for both AMD and the board partners.If I were you though, I would steer clean of doing any sort of OC's on the CPU for the time being.At least until this whole thing gets sorted.Otherwise buddy I think you made a great choice that should keep you very happy for a very long time.Cheers 💪💪💪
@@Tech_Fusion ty however i have no interest in overclockin
@@Tech_Fusion oh and it's a fresh new CPU/MOBO/RAM build btw i'm dyin' to find out how much of an upgrade is from an i7 4790k to a Ryzen 7 5800X3D....
@@blakedmc1989RaveHD Well then, if you are not Oc'ing and hardware is new then don't worry.Use it just as you would and enjoy it buddy.It really think it is an upgrade and you will feel it.Cheers bud
@@Tech_Fusion I have a R5 3600 and 2070 Super, would a 5800X3d be a good upgrade for me? I plan on staying with Am4 for at least 4 years, I will upgrade GPU in 1 year or 18 months
AMD PGA (am4) socket has been rock solid for ages, I don't see myself upgrading to LGA am5 socket until my current pc completely dies, those LGA sockets suffer from de-soldering problems cause by the extreme heat, the main reason why I moved from intel to AMD was exactly that problem, constant unexpected BSOD's caused by the heat sensors in the LGA socket made me so angry that I ditch the blue and the green guys (intel/nvidia) for an all RED built, yes nvidia GPU's also suffers from heating and de-soldering issues even more, I hope AMD realizes that and comes back to AM4 platform in the near future, so I'll wait maybe >>> LOL
Hi there buddy.You know unfortunately there seems to be no more right choices when it comes to anything really and this seems to be specially true for PC electronics.No matter what the cost there always seems to be un underling problem with components as companies get more greedier by the day and fail to reflect the increased price with quality in exchange.Im actually pissed and disappointed that this is such a common trend with more and more companies as of late.A piece of my mind tells me that we should all quit buying newer tech and hit their bottom line so that we should get the point across.So yeah short answer is,wait it out buddy.Cheers 💪💪💪
Because of the design of the AM5 chips, there is a 98.7% chance you will be flicking thermal paste out from between the crevasses with a toothbrush and alcohol.
And a high chance to ruin something if you are after all the thermal paste that splashes all around.Cheers buddy 💪💪
get the bracket for less than 10 bucks
I'm not going to complain about not receiving a useless cooler
The wraith prism isn't a useless cooler it actually does a very good job cooling the cpu just search on here "wraith prism cooler" and you'll see it's much better that the ones you get with the 6core amd cpu.
I agree. Unlike Intel who send a useless Cooler which no one uses, and its a Plastic waste, AMD knows thier wraith prism cooler are already not being used in current market and its just $35 for Deepcool's tower cooler.
Great vid mate. You should have so many more subs. Have subscribed kutgw 👍
Cheers buddy,appreciate the sub and the encouragement.Stay awesome 👍👍👍
i would go for Raptor Lake 🤣
im going 13600k cpu..ddr4 ...6950xt amd...new platform is way to tricky...millions of settings i have to do in bios to balance my system...i dont want to pay to be a tester for them...
Hi there and thank you for your thoughts.Its look like a good all round balanced configuration you chose there.Yes AMD has its trouble right now with its boards and CPU of 7000 series but this problems will be ironed out.Its not excusable at the price point of new tech components these days but it is what it is unfortunately.I would suspect a drop in prices from the board manufactures and AMD as it would be the logical step in trying to reduce the backlash but we dont know what normal is anymore so at least I'm hoping for more then just a band aid fix through bios limitation on the board as there seems to be actual hardware level problems.Anyway overall my experience with the above setup was quite enjoyable overall and maybe its just me but I'm still rooting for AMD in correcting its mistakes as it proved to be offering real performance for reasonable prices for the past years, taking the crown away from Intel and their lack of real innovation for about 10 years or more.Cheers buddy
@@Tech_Fusion thx for the response man:) hint towards 78003xd?...and go to a AMD full build? im gaming 12 h/day star citizen:) and the new system was pointed towards that...thx
@@donvancu Hey bud,I'll always take time to respond so no sweat.I think you are the first one i hear first hand playing star citizen so more power to you man.I might be bias to lean towards the AMD builds as all my experience with it has been super good and even my own rig is based on the older gen AM4 but i will be upgrading towards the AM5 since i find the support offered being better then Intel.Firstly AMD actually keeps the same CPU socket for multiple generations and so you will find yourself in a better spot when deciding to upgrade your CPU later on,without having to change the motherboard.That a big plus in itself and secondly I love the fact that there is none of that BS with overclocking here as there is with the K series from Intel.All AMD CPU's come unlocked and not only that but actually rather going in and setting the max OC on all cores with AMD is much better to let it do it for you depending on the load as you get better performance that way then just going full speed on all cores.Oh and regarding the OC on AMD, it can do it indefinetly unlike Intel that has a time limit on its OC.Downsides?Well generally the Intel CPU's hit rather higher speeds but that is not all in the CPU world when it comes to performance.Anyway in regards to the rest of the specs,both platform obviously support DDR5 that is a huge leap forward in performance and other then my rant here I honestly think you will be getting great performance for anything(not just Star Citizen) with any route you choose.You could make it a price thing as well and you could find that the AMD path might be cheaper but dont quote me on it as you can find deal and offers on both sides.Cheers buddy and sorry for the long reply but when it comes to this subject,the comment section isnt always enough 😅💪💪💪
@@Tech_Fusion thx man for the response,i always appreciate someone who knows tech and have a way better understanding of what these systems can do...i was an intel fan..but now...i think i will go full amd just to see how it is..:) maybe a 78003xd or 7600x...6950 xt..ddr5...psu 1000w..and for mobo is look for something with wifi6e on it..thx again man :) you are the best:)
i had to build a whole new system bc my asus x470 refuses to enter bios
I also had a similar issue with a mobo that came dead on arrival.I was greated with an "over voltage protection,need to shut down" message when I would boot.Some times this things happen I guess
@Tech_Fusion i found out that it was because i was using a wireless kb, and pressing f2 showed no response due to the kb not connecting fast enough before boot
@AquaLady153 I see,glad you got it and solved it.Thats why its best to always straight cable connect your keyboard for the boot sequence.Cheers bud
@@Tech_Fusionthanks😊