Lorgar monologue before Armatura
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- Опубліковано 14 вер 2021
- Monologue at the start of the novel "Betrayer" by Aaron Dembski-Bowden.
Narrated by Jonathan Keeble.
Music: Salvatio -- Chants of Liberation by Monasterium Imperii
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Art by me.
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Here I am:
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Magnus: “Dude. I just came here to tell you dad wanted us to be home by eight.”
"And I shall be home by ten, brother. With guests. "
@@bbbbKeJodddd NOOO
I can already hear the TTS Magnus voice actor saying that, lol
Lorgar"YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO"!!!!!
@@moodyowlproductions4287 I DONT CARE DADDY
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during the entire conversation Magnus was slowly backing away.
"Bro, I just came over to return that book I borrowed..."
I don't need both eyes to see where this is going.
I was vary much scared during that rant I was just giving back a book WTF
@@depressedgwyndolin Don't worry, you did nothing wrong.
@@Waywardpaladin thank you friend
If only Lorgar had realized that he could change the warp by making people smile.
I mean isn't this literally true? Any strong emotion. So happiness too.
yes,
by smiling with sadistic intent
I always wondered that (just getting into 40k). Everything negative emotion manifests in the Warp, but is there a counterpart to the Warp that we’d know as “heaven?”
@@lukepoplawski3230 No, negative emotions are to strong and too plentiful. Prior to the "birthing" of the chaos gods, the warp was a relatively calm place.
@@Shotokan1001 And the real reason, the setting panders to edgelords who shit on anything not "grimdark enough".
See the community crying over the tau so hard that GW had to retcon them into being all manipulated mind slaves cause EVERYTHING MUST BE DARK, NO NOT EDGE!!111!
Good parts of the warp don't happen, because the customers don't want it to happen.
Magnus: "Maybe the Council of Nikaea had a point"
"OH no, this Exactly what I sound like when I get into it don't I? No wonder Leman is always looking at me like that."
The VA really sells Lorgar's half-fascination, half-terror as to what's coming.
That's what I loved most about ADB's word bearer's books. They aren't all raving lunatics, some of them know the pantheon for what they are but it's far too late for them to turn back. Little by little their humanity and compassion is chipped away leaving them the servants of malevolent gods believing that only worship of them will save humanity. They could have been of the Imperium's most zealous legions had the Emperor not shamed them and glassed their perfect city in from of them. Their purpose had been shattered right in front of them and in their desperation they turned to beings that seek to damn the Imperium they once fought so hard to protect.
All of the audiobooks keeble narrates fantastically, I can't think of a single character he doesn't nail perfectly
@@flyboy_nathan4112 I've probably listened to more than 10 audiobooks with keeble narrating them and let me tell you it never gets old, dude has the perfect voice.
@@sg0310 ADB and J Keeble are my go to combo. Every book with those two names is a guaranteed banger.
Just imagine his duels the zealous and rage of a Madman what's the breaking voice of a betrayed child
Lorgar greatest gift his is passion, its stronger than Angrons rage or Fulgrims confidence, it literally set mankind aflame
So in short: everything is Lorgar's fault.
@@chiefkeef74 it was all Magnus fault.
@@gargoyles9999 bruh
Wow calm down there, Angrons rage while not putting mankind aflame certainly put his legion in blood and fire, and Fulgrims sheer ego allowed him to take a point blank virus bomb and the worst damage he got was being crippled because his Ego was hurt, not even his "soul", but his mere ego. He probably has enough for all of humanity.
And in truth Magnus fans are more passionate about stating Magnus the arrogant naive idiot didnt do the big load of stuff that he did do wrong.
The path to hell is filled with good intention yknow, he wanted good, he done bad, he assumes his mistake and let the big hypocrite wolf shank him and thats all he deserves
@@chiefkeef74 it was literally the Emperor's fault.
This is what I love about the Word Bearers. They don't inflict torment just to get a sadistic kick out of it, though I'm sure they get that too. There's an actual purpose behind it. And that makes it so much more horrific. There's something almost paradoxically scientific in how inflicting pain causes a reaction in the Warp which can then be coaxed into achieving a desired result in the material realm. There are rituals, true names, amulets and tomes of forbidden knowledge. It's primitive superstition made reality. Which is so much more fascinating than the sterile Imperial dogma of "Psykers act as conduits to channel the energies of the Warp".
I would argue that aside from probably the Emperor Lorgar understands the warp far more than any other human
@@MrFredstt I would go further and say that Lorgar understands the Warp better than the Emperor, not because he is more capable but because he is capable of embracing it. The Emperor is the anathema to the Chaos Gods, the human embodiment of Order, he is humanity’s God but he isn’t really human per se. Lorgar meanwhile is one of the most human things to ever live, a Demi-God, he scratches the surface of divinity but he doesn’t quite reach it, that space in between being human and being divine is filled by Chaos, and Lorgar’s was like an abyss.
@@bluewingedknight7762 there are theories (which I quite like) that when Emps went into the warp for… who knows in order to finish the orinarch project he enticed some minor warp gods or powerful chaos beings unaligned with the Big Four and shoved them into the primarch bodies (hence where some of the non-psyker primarch powers come from that aren’t reflections of the Emperor). We see that with Corvus and Sanguinius having two warring angels within him. If so, Lorgar of all people would be the one to figure out and understand having a minor god instead of a soul as well as how to exploit that
That depens on whose psykers you're talking about. The Grey Knights probably have a more colorful definition of what they do, as do probably the rune priests of the space Wolves and other groups. I personally like the Black Templars view on psykers and the warp....
The best of the Traitor Legions, and Lorgar was the best of the Traitor Primarchs.
That was fantastic. Lorgar sounds spot on. Soft voice, but still powerful. I always like it when I hear something from the Primarchs, and the voice sounds just right. I always believed Lorgar had a soft, pleasant voice, one you wanted to listen to, like a pastor's or a diplomat's.
And just balancing on the edge between genious and cackling madness
Everything Jonathon Keeble narrates is fantastic. Would highly recommend you check out literally any of the audiobooks he's narrated :)
@@walnutking92 yeah Keeble and Toby Longwortth are GOATs, two of my absolute favorite narrators/voice actors.
I really like the soft voice. He's a preacher and the softness of his voice almost draws you in, you hang onto his world because you WANT to hear what he has to say next.
Easily capable of swaying people with a strong since of belief the power of words was once said to be a witches and warlocks strongest power, and when written down held power. Thats why it is called "spell'ing"
I love how absolutely insane he is but also terrifyingly coherent.
My experience with the lore channels is Lorgar getting insulted, dunked on, ignored, belittled... then Jonathan Keeble speaks Dembski-Bowden's words, visualized by you.... oh shit. This guy is dangerous.
A Primarch with a wounded ego is a very dangerous being.
Kharns worst betrayal was not doing the galaxy a favor and just fucking killing Lorgar.
Yeah everyone made Lorgar seem like a dumbass but he’s a compelling and intimidating character when you actually look at lore
No he is still a dumb ass thinking he can alter and control the warp.
@@jackrusso4700Feel like a lot of writers ruined his character by making him a punching bag
This was all really well done and the art and music was beautiful my dude. I honestly really love how in bliss Lorgar looks and sounds as he's describing what he's doing. Which is essentially "Look Magnus, look at all of this genocide and wanton slaughter, Angron and our legions are committing and going to commit! Isn't it wonderful?" It really shows just how much Lorgar fell, a man who used to care for mankind and want to raise everyone up to believe that his father was a God and that they could all be like him to a mass murderer braying at his restraints and sanity letting his sons, his own sons become hosts to nightmares and unleashing them upon helpless people. Top notch work my dude
This is the reason why I love lorgar, so much potential for good, such a great force for evil
That's the problem. The emperor for all his power and knowledge, failed to understand the power of worship. To worship the Emperor is to directly deny chaos. Instead he humiliated a loyal son and expected him to just say "oh well" They had no private deep father to son conversation where they go back and forth with their ideas. Instead lorgar was ordered to stop, he disagreed and got humiliated. Lorgar was really not the bad guy in this story.
thing is, i believe and im not alone in this. Lorgar never cared for humanity, he was never a good man. there was never anything noble or good in him. he is more than any other character or being in the enitrey of warhammer 40k time line the most evil creature the whole universe ever conserved.
@@shmee123ful That's not really true. Lion cares less for humanity than Lorgar, if you read the description of planets Lorgar conquered, they were pretty much perfect. The only primarchs who genuinely cared about humanity were Lorgar, Sanguinius, Guilliman and Vulcan
@@shmee123ful I wouldn't say he didn't care. I'd say he cared more about the need of faith and something to believe in than he cared about people. Like he'd care for you so long as you believed in his faith. Because yea he'd set up like "perfect worlds" but what about those people that just wouldn't convert? That just either was militantly atheist or who wouldn't give up their old gods. Like yea all the legions killed religious zealots but for me I believe lorgar enjoyed killing them because "slay the heretic." Plus look at the lengths he'd go to just to justify his faith in his father. Big E spelled it out quite clearly with I AM NOT A GOD! and Lorgar would just take that and say only the truly divine would deny their divinity, he's just being modest and humble. He was gonna hold on to that faith until the bitter end. And he did, that's why such a drastic measure was taken with monarchia.
Man, when Lorgar fell, he fell with every last fibre of his being, channelling his every last shred of self over to the worship and service of the Ruinous Powers, as only he could. It was his realisation of purpose that he embraced as completely as he once embraced service to the God-Emperor... ironically proving his nihilistic brother Curze correct; "Death is nothing compared to vindication"
Also incredibly ironic that now the Emperor is indeed a God, completely validating everything Lorgar once believed
Burning his world, killing his wife and his legions wives, and forcing him and his legion to kneel in the dust of their loved ones ashes..to aknowledge that they did wrong, in calling him a god. Hmm..might break a person
@@kasadeya3754 Considering the first option was to erase the guy and his top people from existence and memory... possibly folding yet another Legion into the ranks of the Ultramarines... there really were no soft options, but even Big E did not reckon with the evil that festered in the hearts of Erebus and Kor Phaeron.
@@AximandTheCursed Bro that option you just presented (punishing the perpetrators and nobody else) is a million times more preferable to the wanton massacre the Big E actually committed. I'd say that's a pretty soft option in comparison, even if it is execution it's still a heck of a lot less of it
@@sawspitfire422 Yes, but Big E was persuaded that Lorgar and his sons could be redeemed... in hindsight, it was the wrong option, but Lorgar's own brothers argued on his behalf, one of the few times when both Leman Russ and Magnus the Red agreed on anything...
Many things about it could have been handled better, from the Ultramarines not forcibly evacuating the Monarchian cities, to the Emperor himself choosing a less drastic demonstration instead, or recognising the issues from the start, before the Word Bearers even joined the Great Crusade...
But it all happened the way it did, almost like the Ruinous Powers arranged it to be so...
Whoever voiced this just brought it to life. The silent passion in every word is so entoxicating.
Jonathan Keeble, he’s great.
He truly is the first heretic.
@@paralyzedtortoise8446 The best. By far. Just my opinion.
@@paralyzedtortoise8446He also voiced Maliketh the Black Blade in Elden Ring. Truly a great voice actor
That...was an *astonishingly* good voice and read for Lorgar. Holy hell.
Jonathan Keeble is amazing
that voice crack when he says million million gives me shivers and adds weight to the magnitude of the sheer numbers of deamons
Johnathan Keeble is hands down the best audiobook narrator. I'll listen to literally any book he reads and enjoy it. He does a lot of the 40k audiobooks and he brings that artistry to all of them...My favourite are the black Legion series.
I love the part when he says "Tell me you feel it"- the tone Keeble puts on the line, something between begging and demanding, really makes it feel like Lorgar is almost seeking validation in his beliefs from Magnus.
'Seeking validation and freedom from responsibility of his actions' is the phrase that best sums up Lorgar Aurelian. He'll believe in any higher power so long as he doesn't have to be the one ultimately responsible for his actions
'Seeking validation and freedom from responsibility of his actions' is the phrase that best sums up Lorgar Aurelian. He'll believe in any higher power so long as he doesn't have to be the one ultimately responsible for his actions
@@42ndguardian a bit like Konrad, who was obsessed with the idea that the future was fixed and impossible to change so he never had to take responsibility for his atrocities
Lorgar is often be dunked-on for not being the best fighter, or being a runt of the litter. But he's probably among the most fucking dangerous of the primarchs.
if he did´nt land on Colchis and stay by the side of the Emperor on Terra he could be not the profet of Chaos, but the supreme builder of the Imperial Truth. Not the best warrior, not the most stronger, cunning or the most powerfull psicker... but words alone can change the universe, and damn, he knows how to use them
Lorgar: *gives Alpharius two copies of Book of Lorgar*
Alpharius/Omegon: *nervous chuckle*
Meh. Lots of Primarchs weren't good fighters or had other passions besides war. Perturabo wanted to be more of an engineer and architect than a general. Guilliman explicitly planned for his Legion to retire to civil service. And it can be argued that Guilliman wasn't a good melee fighter either, but he's arguably the most influential in the modern Imperium, just because he was _really really_ good at logistics and governing. His sons have the advantage of having the least dramatic and ordinary "childhood" that any son could ask for. In a way, it's proper that Guilliman was Lorgar's archrival, they're both men of words, it's just that Guilliman was far more concerned with the material universe and more practical forms of scholarship. And of the two, I'd argue Guilliman left the more worthwhile legacy.
That's kind of the point. The Primarchs are just more than operators or soldiers. They're leaders of men and brilliantly creative. The best melee fighter of the bunch got a lobotomy that made the other Primarchs look upon him with a mixture of pity and contempt. Angron's greatest gift was never his ability to fight, since his novel implies he had empathic powers and the ability to take away other people's pain. That was robbed from him. In an alternate timeline Angron would've probably be as well-loved as Vulkan or Sanguinius.
@@afqwa423 But Lorgar is unique in that it was never in him to be a general, all of the other primarchs found it easy and n0atural to conduct warfare, establish themselves as martial experts or psychic demigods, and found it natural to be in a state of war but for Lorgar, he never had that natural ability for war, he never had that natural thirsts for warfare, he was never comfortable as head of a legion butchering their way through the stars. He never had that killer instinct that is so pronounced in other primarchs and he is aware of this.
He was ever a creature of peace and diplomacy.
Lorgar, the Primarch that I hate the most. However, his mind and how he thinks is amazingly written. Truly one of the best unredeemable villains of fiction.
The best "Moustache Twirling" moment in all of 40k for sure. Keeble captures Lorgar so perfectly, on the verge of religious hysteria, borderline (?) madness.
I do think this video misses out on the best part of that scene though, just a few moments later.
"That, is the Blessed Lady."
"You built two..."
"Oh no. I built three."
I might not be the biggest fan of Lorgar but god damn this is a stunning piece of work!
…Two months later and all of a sudden I have a growing Word Bearers army. I swear this video planted seeds of chaos.
The sweet voice of our Primarch, truly his greatest weapon. That and, of course, the Primordial Truth He bears
You are blessed, brother.
Not a fan of Lorgar? Eww. Calth was an act of self defense!
You at the top I am glad you have been enlightened.
You have been blessed, my son
You know the villain is scary when their monologue sounds like a MeatCanyon video.
The Word Bearer closed his eyes and lifted his hands - a conductor before an orchestra in those tense, edged moments before the first note is struck.
‘The warp is a song, brother. Let me play a verse for you.’
One of the favorite primarch, this music that you picked and narrator. It so beautiful, that gives me goosebumps. So good!
This whole Audiobook is gold
This is a lie, no one likes Lorgar!
if gw see this. the video will be removed
@@chiefmasterofdeepwarrens3208 you are lying
The Unrisen deserve more love... Also I blame Erebus, not Lorgar...
Magnus is slowly eating ruffles chips in the background, trying not to chew too loudly.
Genuinely, this is the first time I've heard something read from Warhammer literature that makes the corruption of the warp seem actually intoxicating. The voice sounds to tender and sincere that it makes the Daemonic incursion seem good.
You know i get chills when he says
"Call it...the warp"
LORGAR: Monologues
Magnus: "Brother, did you forget to take your medication again?"
Keeble is a damn good narrator, but the music choice really kicks this up a notch. Beautiful. I don’t even care for Lorgar much, but this was mesmerizing.
Even as someone who constantly makes a mockery of Lorgar and his sons, I've got to admit this is some of the best artwork combined with some of the best voiceover work I've seen.
Ah so you constantly lie to yourself
Best artwork ? Mate ...
@@TheHandofDestiny At least he is not a coward.
@@PainGumbo yea like that time u kicked his ass and he teleported and hid like a true bitchass
@@TheHandofDestiny your daddy hides from the raven because he know that as soon as he leaves his safe space his existence will be nevermore.
Absolutely beautifully done Johnathan Keeble! Lorgar is a perfect character for artists with real potential.
Magnus: I need a priest rn…
Lorgar: I AM a priest!
i love the audiobook narrators so much. They really did picked the good voices.
Johnathan Keeble is a fantastic voice actor, every audiobook from the black library with him is always going to be fantastic,
Magnus: “Lorgar, what the fuck are you talking about?”
Lorgar is a super underrated primarch like no he isn't a fighter but if your into chops he is extremely important maybe they should have made him a more powerful psyker
Aside from Magnus Lorgar is arguably the strongest psyker among primarchs
He's the second most powerful psyker primarch. Though maybe post-Molech Horus is stronger.
@@etiennevanier more so the Conrad or sanguineous ?
@@pollythepolarbear5178More than Conrad certainly, Lorgar opens warp storms and summons demons. That has to be better than prescience. Sanguinius is closer, but apart from very direct powers, like blasting people with energy, and prescience, Bird-Boy does not do much psychically (that I've seen in Heresy novels).
@@FennEXE I'd say Mortartion tops him no? It goes more like Magnus, Mortartion, Lorgar, Sanguinius, Konrad, Corax
Magnus: Bro, I just sat down! Who the fuck starts a conversation like that?
Just the sound of his voice makes me want to join Chaos
1:05 little known fact when lorgar cry's its from his left eye, symbolically if you cry from your right eye its joy however if its from your left eye it means pain. (both=frustration)
I didn't even notice the tear dang also is that an actual thing right eye Joy left eye pain?
Little details matter
@@dannybutts6877 im sure that's bull shit in reality but it could be a literary symbol. Anytime I shed a tear its from my right eye and I am not happy when I do, I assure you.
That's not how eyes work.
magnus; 2 weeks ago you didnt know about the warp and now youre a expert.
As painfully as ADB can write loyalists good gods can he write chaos
First Heretic and Betrayer are the best but his Night Lords stuff is amazing also, Sevatar is one of the best-written characters in the Heresy
The ADB Chaos material is so good, I wish they’d focus on that over anything else. If more people heard it I believe the game itself would grow much faster than it has. I’ve always thought the Ultra Marines, Imperial Fists, even the Space Wolves were the most boring of all the material. Horus and his legion as well. I prefer characters who are in control and their chosen direction sets the pace and tone of the rest. You have a character as titular as Horus who was initially his fathers first son and showed all the childish jealousy when finding his brothers due to the focus they’d steal from him. So, as what amounts to a minor chaos god doggedly pursues recognition from the emperor like a lap dog… Up until he is warp juiced by a weak delusional legion like the Wordbearers and those idiotic pseudo-gods who with all that power can’t accomplish shit. Then you have his masterful decision (retcon I guess) to basically invite the emperor aboard for a chat as he’s about to win…. Meanwhile the “god emperor” can see the future so well yet the Haunter and the Angel both knew about the future outcomes but he didn’t. They claim the emperor only discovered his plan over a game of regicide but again other characters had known for a century plus what would unfold. What was his grand plan?! Being invited aboard by Horus lololol. This is sort of what I mean and don’t get me started on the plot armor of a select few or basically the entirety of anything with “wolf” in the name. They have an amazing universe with incredible potential but they waste it by focusing on the most boring aspects of it.
WHY DID THEY GIVE HIM MASTER OF MANKIND WHY
Me when I first heard this: Wow, that was very poetic, Lorgar... Poetic and fucking insane, you megalomaniac.
This is the truest understanding the the warp as I see it, it cannot be so controlled only directed like a Maestro
I love the smell of Ruinstorm in the morning.
Even though I have not listened to his book yet, I can imagine that Magnus is listening to his brother and is genuinely horrified at what his brother is becoming. Lorgar was one of the brothers that Magnus was fairly close with, so I can picture it in my mind that Magnus is listening to Lorgar speak and is questioning that madness and pain which has taken hold of his brother. How he has fallen so completely into the hands of the ruinous powers, there is nothing he can do, even if he tried. The man before him truly isn’t his brother anymore, but a zealot gone mad because of the rejection of his faith, faith to a being that he saw not only as his father, but as a true god.
You should. Betrayer is literally *the* best book in the entire series
If you’ve ever seen a family member get inducted in a cult you can probably relate.
But maybe a little different because Magnus knew about Chaos and used it on a few occasions even before the Heresy.
I'm one third into this book, and it's one of the best pieces of literature I've read. Honestly I didn't expect Warhammer 40k to have such an exquisitely descriptive narrative, and beautiful dialogues like these.
Aaron Dembski-Bowden is a damn good author. His Night Lords novels are top notch.
@@patricion.3607 ADB is da G
Its moments like this that remind me why I love 40k so much
yes
Man drops one of the hardest Horus Heresy videos and never posts again. What a legend.
1 video and literally nothing else hahah
Jonathan Keeble is such a great voice actor, Hes the reason I love Jack of Blades from Fable so much.
Oooooh, that was him? Neat!
Gotta be honest, I always felt bad for Lorgar before his fall..and even after. Maybe, it's a because I am a spiritual person, but his story and downfall was always a tragic as Magnus. Plus, I think he was right about the Emperor. The Emperor is a god.
Maybe not on the same level as the ruinous powers, but a god nonetheless.
The Emperor claims not to be a god, that there was no such thing as the supernatural, or gods, etc. But all that? It was lie. The Emperor is a very powerful manifestation of the supernatural, from his physique, to his intellect, to his charisma. For crying out loud, he could change his shape and when he would reveal him form it was often a titan of a man in golden, gleaming, and ornate armor. There's also hints that he may have in fact influenced the religions of Earth before it was Terra. Perhaps he tried to unite the world under a religion and it didn't work so he tried to drastically over-correct. Heck, he is still trying to steer Humanity like a god, but even more directly. He wanted to be the example that all humans could strive and look too. Couple that with his reality-bending powers, he is a living god of humanity.
But the Imperial Truth was always a blatant lie, because the Warp/The Realm Of Souls had already existed eons before him. His existence and powers came directly from it. There already existed another layer of reality full of both wonder and danger. Instead of properly trying to warn humanity about it, it's danger, and how it could harness, changed, and made into a better place...he tried to cover up it's existence entirely. Often violently. He thought he could starve out the Chaos Gods via denying and abolishing faith. This was incredibly foolish because it is not faith that powers the Chaos Gods, but the extreme (often negative emotions) that came with sapient existence. He could've used the faith and hope people had in him, and channeled it even further. Yes, there is always the dangers to fanatical faith and zealous dogmatism, no doubt. There are things to criticize about how and when religion and faith is rampantly abused. But to deny that the supernatural and gods exist when it's often demonstrably (atleast in 40k) very real?
Did the Emperor think he could cover that up forever? Did he think he would one day reveal that the Imperial Truth was a farce and people would still have faith in him or his system? That many wouldn't feel betrayed by this?
Lorgar saw what was blatantly obvious about the Emperor, he was/is a god. What humanity should aspire to be. He thought his father was the pinnacle of benevolence, wisdom, and brilliance. Something that was innate in all of mankind despite their follies and flaws.
Instead he was spurned by the one he considered to be his creator and lord. Not only was he spurned, it was done so with needless cruelty and loss of innocents who did nothing wrong but worship the Emperor, love him, and find meaning in their lives thanks to him.
It's no wonder Lorgar turned to Chaos. It doesn't excuse the Primarch's own atrocities, true. Yet it's completely understandable how and why he fell. It's tragic.
Just call the Big E Xerxes, but don't call him a God. in all seriousness though I think his main thoughts behind there are no gods are as follows: a. if he can spread the imperial truth of science over gods then people would not feed the ruinous powers with their devotion, b. he didn't want to be worshipped as a god, for this reason, it would in turn feed his power and his ego and push him to become more like chaos which he didn't want. He wanted mankind united under a signal banner in the goal to make mankind thrive. He hated Xenos because the eldar could "see the future" and saw mankind feeding chaos, and wanted to wipe mankind out. the eldar looked down on everyone in the galaxy as well, as beneath them, in turn making them no better than chaos to the emperor, birthing slannesh probably didn't help either.
He felt that ignorance could be used as a shield against chaos, but in turn, helped chaos subvert people to their cause.
@@joshuaashkar6644 Which fittingly explains why the religion based around the Emperor in the far future preaches hatred, ignorance, and intolerance.
Despite their ritual trappings and medieval trinkets, the Ecclesiarchy worships a 'deity' that was more akin to Stalin and Pol Pot than Jesus or Buddha. Of course their creed would be fire and brimstone, where the "unclean" are not suffered to live.
Given that he had adopted various identities over the eons, it is possible that the Emperor might have been Stalin, Pol Pot, Jesus, etc...
He is essentially a far more powerful version of the immortal Vandal Savage of the DC Universe - a caveman whom through the millennia has adopted various personalities: a poet, an artist, a thief, a governor, a hunter, etc; but most importantly, a conqueror.
The emperor had a justifiable reason for denying the existence of the supernatural.
Demons draw strength from mankind’s belief and fear of them.
So by proclaiming none exist he was depriving them of one of their main power sources.
@Infidel Heretic Except Chaos is empowered and made volatile by repression. Big E just packed the cannon aiming at his imperium with more gun powder. Denying the Warp/Human Nature is NEVER the answer. Look to Corvus: he embraced and directed his Warpstuff and has ascended to Dæmonhood without losing himself to the "Ruinous" powers.
"Riggggghhhht... I gotta go make a quick call to Dad, one sec... ."
- Magnus
Keeble is such an amazing narrator, you can hear the reverence turn to madness in his voice
Emperor: "Yo, why do you have to talk like a Batman villain?"
Lorgar: "Hath not the light deserved it's time it twain wi--"*Is interrupted by Monarchia getting glassed from orbit*
"Calth was an act of self defense."
Chaos Worshipper
If we ever get Daemon Primarch Lorgar, I hope he's the best support piece in the game. Buffing his allies and debuffing his enemies is his superpower among the Primarchs.
"..... Bruh"
Said Magnus in confusion.
Can confirm… that was quite a waste of time
Jonathan Keeble is a fucking legend, dude.
Now we need all epic speeches of others evil daddies
And special “Let the Galaxy burn” moment
I want an animated series of the chaos primarchs doing stuff together with this art style. I really like seeing lorgar's theology/philosophy
Simply a beautiful performance of Lorgar's and excellent art to match.
He's .....gone mad. How he speaks, how he refers to all of it. He has gone mad.
Awesome work! You captured the best primarch perfectly.
I’d love to see you do the part where Magnus says “you built two abyss ships?” And Lorgar replies “no, I built three”
That would be awesome
That would be awesome
I wouldn't say "best"...
I mean, the only reason he's not the most hated man in the galaxy is that Erebus exists.
@@alricmalicorne321 He is the best
you mean the worst primarch.
pure definition of the word "Charisma"
Magnus: *Slowly steps away*
Magnus: sorry I was thinking about destroying the space wolfs, were you talking about destroying the space wolfs?
Lorgar: no I was just saying that Corvus is looking edgier than usual and seems to be skulking about. I’m sure it’s nothing
First piece of media to make me consider playing Chaos.
Good fuckin' job.
That's the good ol' Lorgar charisma to ya
Always liked his son Argel Tal more, but hot dang if Lorgar wasn't technically right...he just never thought to impact the warp in a different way. In the backwoods theology of 40k where the created create the Divine, he really could have focused in on that and turned the warp into a tool and mirrored deathworld to house the souls of living beings, rather than falling to temptations and peer pressure
Faith is a necessary component of humanity. In the end everyone devotes themselves unto something finding their fulfillment in it. Those who don't see it are true slaves to it. Believe there is an old saying, "you can't truly subjugate the willing"
To be fair, Lorgar tried that when he was worshipping the Emperor
The Urizen recieves love! Praise Chaos, Let your soul be joyous for the Great Song.
Fuck Chaos. Better to die than be a meat puppet by thirsting laughing gods who will throw you away in a second if you do a single thing wrong.
@@alpha-1redrighthand829 At least you got time to do something while it lasted, breathe wrong in front of the commisar and you might as well be sacrifice to chaos.
@@alpha-1redrighthand829 So misguided
Bruh
This is why Lorgar and Perty are my favorite traitors. Perty carried the traitors militarily. If he stayed during the seige of terra, the traitors would have won. Lorgar, however, planted the seeds of corruption from the beginning, turned Horus towards chaos, and indirectly created the imperial cult, leading to mankind’s technological stagnation. Out of all the traitors, Lorgar was the most dangerous.
Not with the Ultramarines on the way.
Plus the Traitors backstabbing each other ensured their ultimate failure.
Magnus leaves the room and lorgar keeps going
Lorgar needs more, I mean he's the weakest in combat yet he's the one who effectively created The Imperium at present that worships The Emperor as a god and is slowly technologically regressing. Out of anyone, he's done far more damage to the setting than any other character including Horus. Horus only fell because the Word Bearers made it so.
He arguably got the most that any Primarch has ever gotten.
He won.
He got the Imperium he wanted, just as he saw it.
Weakest is not something to describe him anymore
Militarily, its arguably Pertarabo that was the MVP for Chaos during the Heresy. by the end he and the Iron Warriors were the only professional fighting force left.
He's not the weakest. Magnus and Lorgar are among the strongest, they both can augment their abilities beyond the others with their superior warp power, and that was before ascending to Daemonhood.
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Nearing the end of the heresy. He's essentially the poet scholar at the beginning.
Pretty much every other primarch has beaten him during the heresy at some point, up until he discovers that Fulgrim is possessed, during which he demonstrates to all the other primarchs that hes so god damned powerful, he could beat any of them.
Lovely work from the narrator. And I like how my eyes come across.
Keeble is so unbelievably good. Betrayer should have won awards for the performance.
‘There, a ship burns in Latona’s atmosphere, the cries of the doomed souls echoing into the empyrean. And there, a warship ploughs into the surface of Ulixis, digging its own grave, taking a hundred thousand souls shrieking into the afterlife. Do you hear them dying, Magnus? Do you hear the song shifting in time to their extinguished essences?
I honestly hope you do more of these, the art just makes the dialogue so much better
This was really good. You did a great job matching Lorgar’s emotions through the animation with The voice actor’s tone
Is it weird that out of all the Primarchs that Lorgar probably scares me the most?
Most of the Primarch are scary simply because their massive guys in power armor who can turn me into a literal stain with barely a thought. Kurze is higher on the scary list than most because he'll make you suffer unimaginable pain via torture before you die. The Daemon Primarch's are *even higher* because they could grab your immortal soul and "play" with it.
But Lorgar would probably send the entire galaxy into the warp, have Daemons eating the souls of literally *every* living being and as the everything becomes a swirling mass of pure chaotic madness he'd give a satisfied smile thinking he's done something good.
Fantastic art! So underrated, the world needs to see this!
Lorgar. My hero.
But remember he's also a logar hahahahhah
And that’s when Magnus realized he made a big mistake
it was either die at the hands of the emperor or live under lorgar's gods.
I had no idea Lorgar was the idea man behind the Fyre Festival.
Honestly the word bearer / lorgar focused books are probably the best in the horus heresy series. The first heretic was amazing and Betrayer was great!
Agreed
Masterpiece!
as much as erebus and corferon (definetly spelled that name wrong) were already corrupted/evil, if the Emperor wasnt such an idiot Lorgar would have been the most loyal of his followers, fanatic yes but he would have definetly have his uses. But alas, critical thinking and reasoning isnt a part of the 40k Universe and thats why we love it so much.
Indeed.
Kor'Phaeron is the name, IIRC. I remember it having an apostrophe in the middle of it somewhere.
Abandon reason! Know only war!
The mon-keigh corpse seer says that he has a plan for everything. Remember the demon spawned vision suffered by Horus? It was the truth. He is not magnanimous as a ruler. The Corpse Emperor is a tyrant and his ascension only proves his malignancy. But He certainly was not an idiot. All part of the plan. And Lorgar chose the wrong Gods to serve.
You may say: "But how can this be? The Emperor has refused him! The Lecticio Divinatus was forbidden." All. Part. Of. The. Plan.
Kor Phaeron
I’ve watched this a many times and the background music is blissful
Magnus, to whoever hasn't run away yet: "Yeah, he's fuckin' crazy."
1:06 a single tear.
This video has made me finally have an ounce of respect for Lorgar
Magnus "Sorry I was miles away, what were you saying?"
Magnus slowly backing up to the nearest door: Aight Imma head out.
Lorgar is the guy who saw the code within the Matrix.
I understand everything he talked about. I guess I serve Chaos now
When the need for a higher purpose takes a dark turn....
Gamesworkshop could actually make a fucking incredible Horus Heresy series with like 200 episodes if they just got their fucking heads out of their asses. 40k and 30k have endless potential to be incredible across all media yet due to the incompetent higher ups we are left to do it ourselves.
To be fair, if we'd been left in peace and not hit with the copyright-nuke from hell we'd have a growing, blooming IP that many would have flocked to, for better or worse, additionally. we live in the era where Star Wars died from whoring-itself out to the point of no return, and games workshop was all to eager to step into limelight and take its spot....i doubt it would have gone well.
It boggles my mind how terribly mismanaged their IP has been. I agree, the potential is beyond staggering. Just look at how AWFUL they've done licensing their content for game development. Out of the hundreds of GW based games, theres like 4 or 5 games that are actually worth playing or paying for. They need to join the 21st century and get their heads of of their asses, as you say. I think a large part of it has to do with them being based in the UK. If they had developed some stronger relationships with more high-talent US-based media companies, perhaps they would be able to put out some licensed content that's worth a damn. As for now, I stick to the Audiobooks and the tabletop itself. It's quite telling when fan-based or community-driven content does a better job at capturing the essence of the lore than their own stuff
My goodness this mans voice *embodied* Lorgar.
"So Logar would you like a big mac or happy meal?"
"Go away, Lorgar."
Magnus: dude I was just asking you if you wanted mustard or ketchup in your burger
Beautiful. I hope you will do Lorgars speech to the other Primarchs and marines before they deploy down to Istvaan III one day. This is soooooo good
Wonderfully done. You should totally do Angron's speech to Guilliman about courage and honor
Magnus: *offers a Snickers bar*
At the end Magnus said 'im sorry brother I was miles away were you saying something'
You did a great job