Angron and Lorgar talk on Nuceria from "Betrayer" - A 40k Dramatic Reading
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How refreshing hearing Angron as a human with a vendetta instead of a slobbering brooding maniac. Makes his fall relatable and understandable
He really doesn't get enough spotlight as the most ill-fated son of big E.
To be fair, we mostly see him as a Demon Primarch, when there is practically notthing left of the man he was; when we see his human self, it's always as a tragic figure
That's because he isn't human. He is a blood spewing killing machine.
He was both.
"Why do you cry?"
"He is Angron. The Red Angel. He cannot cry, so i cry for him."
this hits so hard
Is this an excerpt from a book ? If so which one ?
@@tildoss1810 No, it's a quote from the movie Conan the Barbarian
@@dirtywings7251 oh ok thanks 👍
@@tildoss1810 You're welcome 😌
Angron didn't choose his homeworld.
Angron didn't choose to become a Gladiator.
Angron didn't choose to have the Butcher's Nails.
Angron didn't choose to slay his father.
Angron didn't choose to abandon his people.
Angron didn't choose to return to the Imperium.
Angron didn't choose to live a Daemon Primarch of Khorne.
Angron, the only Primarch who never had a Choice.
He was the Slave Primarch, a Demigod made to serve others and allowing him to not make a single Choice in his life.
Not a single Choice.
No one would ever argue that Angron got dealt the most shit hand of every Primark besides 2 and 11. I have a lot of sympathy for him and all the shit he had to put up with.
But he did make one choice after the Emperor picked him up. He chose to recreate the nails in his legion. He enslaved the people who called him father to his own trauma when no one forced him to. He had to go out of his way to develop and recreate a poorly understood piece of dark age tech and inflict his pain upon the legion entrusted to him. Even with the nails some part of him cries out for honor. I think if he were ever able to take a step back and look at his own actions he'd be horrified by what he did.
Angron was indeed dealt alot of duds. But he had choices to make and at every turn he chose to not go forwards. Instead he lashed out at everyone and everything that wanted to help him and lift him from his trauma.
Angron chose to not deal with his past.
Angron chose his fate.
Angron chose his future.
Angron chose his legions future.
It is a sad and heartwrenching story of a man unable to come to terms with his traumas, whishing to die and run from it, not being allowed to by his brothers love.
Konrad is the only Primarch to kinda enjoy the Crusade. He could skin as many babies as he wants and not get cancelled for it
@@krieger8825 Really, what more you could ever ask for in life?
Well, he could kill Kharn in that cave and all who came with him and then die because of nails. This was a choice, to give his legion a second chance
Hearing Angron experiencing emotions other than homicidal rage is really heartbreaking.
"...and I will die free!"
And now he cannot die at all, a slave eternal to a master infinitely crueler than even the High-Riders.
This is art. I actually have tears in my eyes listening to Angron talking about his fellow gladiators. There's something about his voice that text alone cannot convey, almost like he's not just telling Lorgar about the people who fought and died by his side, but begging for someone else to remember them as he did, so that their legacy won't die with him.
angron should sound like he is in constant pain, and this captures it perfectly. even the sharp intakes of breath are perfect, letting your voice break. i can hear the tears welling in his eyes.
Angron was truly the betrayed. Not by the Emperor or by the Imperium, but by fate itself. If one should believe in such a thing… Angron the Betrayed. And Lorgar the Fool.
Angron, Lorgar, and Magnus are my favourites because of how easy it is to see the flaws in the emperor through their eyes.
The emperor is a narcissistic tyrant, reliant on pretty armour, unmatched power, and charisma to hide how bad and uncaring he truly is.
@gaebi That's what I liked about the Primarchs pre chaos. Them joining Chaos just makes them the greater evil so you have to side with the Emperor anyways but he really is a pos. But he's a golden god like pos,that made you want to worship him simply by being near him. He told the galaxy he had the authority to rule as the sole ruler of all and lead them into a new age and somehow figured that wasn't the equivalent of being God.
I really hear in Angron’s voice the intonation of a man who really valued something... he’s just a kind, big guy who was broken by suffering... he didn’t want all this
The interesting thing is, even after Nuceria, there's times when his caring side sneaks through. When he's on the bridge of the Conqueror, he takes special attention and care to the Navigator girl, to make sure she's as happy as she can be, as comfortable as she can be. He's actually very, very delicate with her. And him and Lotara have their banter, which on some level I think he appreciates because she doesn't treat him as a Higher Authority. He's supposed to be her boss, and she will listen to him...most of the time. But she's not afraid to disagree with him. He lost his brothers and sisters, but in a way he did form bonds with random people on the Conqueror. Not close... but enough.
Without the nail, he should had been the most empathic primarch.
Isn’t Angron an empath?? Able to feel and detect others emotions??
The music, the voice.
You can hear Angron’s grief so perfectly. Good memories of terrible times, a time lost forever at the cusp of everything they wanted.
Absolutely perfect version of Angron. The sadness in his voice, the softness when he talks of his brothers and sisters, the pain in every word. He doesn't sound like he's gargling rocks, but his voice tells of the roughness of his life. Fantastic job. I can almost see him throwing his arms wide while he taunts the ghosts of those Highriders, amidst the field of bones, voice echoing off the rocks. With only Lorgar there to hear his tale. When Lorgar says 'You will have your vengeance. You have my WORD." I can see him reaching out to touch Angron's shoulder lightly, while looking him dead in the eyes so he can see his promise and vow.
To an outside observer, Angron appears to be a blood thirsty maniac. But in the novels, he’s so much deeper. One of the most tragic characters in the 40K universe.
Trust me when I say this, Angron is by far one of the purest of all Primarchs, regardless of his resolve, you cannot fault him for his undoing. The longer I read through his lore, the more I feel for him. He has the power to absorb the pain and negative emotions of others. Yet the pain he had was too much. I cannot blame him for what he has done, one of a few times a fictional character made me tear up. Your potrayal is by top notch, thank you RufusJuice
I've heard a good few voices for Angron: the cracked grandeur of David Timson, the looming threat of Vox in the Void, the frothing wrath of Jonathan Cox and the indignation of Chris Glass. And I have to say, yours is the best one by a country mile, for one simple reason: the glimpses of warmth we hear in his voice. The fondness in his words when he reflects on his fellow gladiators, the faint shred of joy in his laughter, the sobs begging to spill out even against the Nails... nobody else ever captured that. You gave us a small look at the man Angron could have been, what he *would* have been if it weren't for the Nails, you did justice by the Red Angel. So in all sincerity, well bloody done.
Wow, you've made my week, thank you.
@@RufusJuice What can I say, it's a rare day that something can so quickly bring me to tears, so when it does... oh it's somethin' special, no doubt. Consider me plenty eager to see the rest of your repertoire.
@@RufusJuice do you remember what music you used? you only link to the channel
Bro captured pure emotions in his voice. Excellent 👍
Absolutely captured Angron's pain and anguish in this. Amazing work!
1:40 made me cry so hard that he was happy and even had a moment of peace with his family, they actually made a choice, not forced on them but they alone made, god how angron is one of the most tragic charaters I can see people who that never got into 40k fall in love with him reading his story from order only to fucking cry like ankin with darth vader
The best rendition of Angron I've ever heard.. I had tears in my eyes listening to this.. fantastic work!!!
Her: "I can't believe he didn't cry watching Titanic? Do men have no feelings at all?"
You and me listening to this video:
Never forget: he was envisioned to be a healer….
How the hell did you get the voices so right? An abused older brother finally allowing himself to truly bleed infront of his little brother, exposing himself completely and trusting his brother to understand.
You had me crying, Angron reminds me of myslef to a self reflective extent and goodness you got the hurt in his voice perfectly.
Angron is something else... he and his actions make it so hard to love him, to feel sorry for him, yet his boundless suffering and agony is such that your heart still breaks for him.
This is why I love Angron
Out of all the primarchs Angron's story is the most tragic compelling and intriguing in the whole setting. He reminds me of Guts from Berserk
I love how lorgar is manipulating angron but still, deep down, feels a bit of sympathy for his brother.
He was the closest to the empath Primarch after Vulkan. Manipulation is his speciality which makes sense considering he was raised by two of the greatest manipulators in the galaxy. Kor Phaeron and Erebus
It's not a sympathy but manipulation. He just trying to manipulate and the worst of it he didn't save his brother. Better die free than live as a slave.
@@maltheri9833
I do believe that was Lorgar's Primarch power.
@@Warmaster2001 "Better to die free than live as a slave." The repeating tragic irony of Angron's entire life: every time he wished to die, he was forced to live as something worse than he was before.
When he wanted to die rather than kill old Oenomaus, they stuck the Nails in him and he murdered his best friend.
When he wanted to die with his fellow slaves, he was stolen away and forced to live with the guilt and the pain.
When he tried as hard as he could to find death in the Great Crusade, he found no success, and his fellow legions reviled him and the World Eaters as monsters.
When he nearly died against Gulliman, Lorgar turned him into a Daemon of Khorne.
Angron's only freedom from pain and suffering is death, and yet it always is pulled just out of his reach when he reaches for it.
OMFG this made me cry for a bit... i never thought of it as dramatic when i read it in paper. Angron got just better. Great job
This fully brought me to tears off from Angron's speech.
I love how he got emotional and sad in this, even that he knows and can feel how nails are answering for that.
Genuinely made me shed a tear. This is amazing.
I hear the thunder, Angron...
This genuinely had me tearing up.
damn that brought a tear to me damn son. Angron deserved better.
Guts of 40k my guy needs to be put down
The nails hurt ! Ah, how they hurt! ..... Goddamn mate i can feel it, i can feel his pain, im crying you are such a good actor !
Damn, if you did an audiobook of this It'll be one of the first on my list.
Masterfully acted. Incredible emotion in your voice. Bravo.
This is by far the best voice acting I have ever heard in a long time. Angron's voice and emotions come across so heavy on my soul.
Damn, that was a crazy emotion trip
God ... the Emperor for all his apparent wisdom sure f-ed up with Angron ... sigh ... what a tragic character 😞
Angry was a failure, even in the end, he could not even die. He is now a servant, first to high riders, then the emperor, now to khorn.
He did several cycles and he fookin return to slavery. Damn Angry need true death by hands of Guilliman.
Never forget he was robbed of a victory when he was turned into a daemon prince
@@OfLanceTheLonginus victory? Antron never fought for victory, he didn’t even fight for survival. I would say he fought for freedom, but each choice he made got him further away from it. He wanted to die for a cause he believed in, now, in the end, he is even denied the peace of the grave.
Logar being a better brother and support than the Emperor ever was
ANGRON and KONRAD have it hard. 😢😊
Simply, thank you .
Angron doesn't want vengeance. He doesn't want to crush Terra or the Emperor. He wants his true family back. He wanted to die free.
And the Emperor couldn't be bothered to lend a hand to save both Angron and his people? For all of his so-called foresight and intelligence, he doesn't seem very good at earning loyalty.
This was all part of the Grand Plan, even Heresy, I guess
@@lord_azatoth I don't know a whole lot about 40k, but there's so much contradictory information that it has me constantly question the Emperor's "wisdom".
@@lord_azatoth I know they've hinted at this idea before, but I *really* hope they don't go down that route, because it'd retroactively make the whole setting unbelievably dumb.
-It renders the entire heresy meaningless. It completely trivializes Sanguinius's death as well as Ferrus' and it makes the Emp's proclamation at the foundation of the Grey Knights void.
Like, I'm on board with Emps expecting a civil war between the Primarchs and pragmatically accepting some (Like Angron) might not make it to the finish line, that Chaos turned an otherwise "conventional" civil war into the Heresy, that he made the only choice he had left for the sake of humanity by seating the golden throne, slowly turned into something new by human faith and belief. But if every, single step of the setting is just Emp's grander perfect plan, if even his *obvious* mistakes are just pre-ordained projects, 40k just becomes an unnecessarily edgy version of Dune with an even more bizarre Leto...
To me, what made the Imperium interesting is that it's fallen state is ultimately a testament to human fallibility, from the mortals to its creator. The fact he could have such a human flaws as being a bad parent and making mistakes in the face of the unforeseen was perhaps the most clear cut proof that the Emperor *was* in fact human after all.
He just wanted to go with them…
If not that, then to go like them.
Both times he was denied.
@@rustkarl You ever get the feeling that the real villains of this story are the writers themselves? They had to intentionally have the Emperor make shitty choices in order to create the grim dark universe that is 40k.
He could have saved Angron along with his people. These battle-hardened gladiator warriors might have made excellent soldiers, provided they were offered the choice to fight rather than being forced to. I don't know much about Angron's history, but I can imagine they might have chosen to continue fighting by his side. Instead, we have this... A Primarch who had nothing and yet still lost everything.
Made me tear up. Good stuff.
DAMN THIS CHANNEL IS GOOD
RufusJuice you are seriously under appreciated. I consider myself very lucky to have heard this work of art. Your voice acting is incredible.
Funny how Big E can spend time partying with Leman Russ, drinking, fighting, spear chucking, but can't spend just a little bit of time sending down the Custodes to wipe out the high riders. Imagine how different Angron would be if the Emperor wasn't such a sack of doodoo?
Angron pouring his heart out and all this slime lorgar can do is hype him on what he wants: to fight the Emperor.
A fool manipulating a monster.
No.
He wants to die.
@@terminallove3531 I meant what Lorgar wants
@@SgtThiel
Ahhh...
Definitely the best voice I've heard for Angron so far, I hope you do the bit where he confronts the Nucerians too
This is so so good
This is so good! Love your videos
In the end I like to believe in death his people knew he didn’t run
10/10 Narration
Thats brutal.
I found your videos and damn! Your voice is amazing! I love how you captured a genuinely heartfelt moment from Angron, I'm really impressed. I love this passage, you really show the humanity in the primarchs.
The voice acting is simply magnificent, tears flowed from my eyes! I have added a link to your channel to all my wahi fan chats, so I hope you will get more subscribers soon😉
One of the many reasons why Angron is one of my top favorite primarchs truly a broken man.
That was quite touching 😢
What is the music used? Your description links to the artist's channel, but not the specific song title used. Both the voice acting and music used were absolutely beautiful
Angrons primarch power was empathy, he unlike all of his brothers truely cared for the mortals he grew up with.
But so did Guilliman, Corvus, Magnus, Russ, Jaghatai, sanguinius, Mortarian, Dorn and Vulkan?
@@velenvskaelhas
None of them could literally take the pain of others into themselves.
@@terminallove3531 I mean sure, but that doesn’t make Angron more empathetic
Unfortunately, that empathy appeared to end shortly after the emperor rescued him from the death he had resigned himself to.
@@infidelheretic923
If you're talking about his Primarch power,it ended after the High Riders put the Butcher's Nails in his skull.
The agony in his voice….
i can see the picture of this conversation, Angron on his knees in the mists of the bones of his brothers and sisters, Lorgar a respectable distance behind him, and as he spoke Angron begins to cry for his kin, and how his life has been in the hands of one slave master after another, first the high riders, then his "father"
Now Khorne himself.
Multiple goose bumps
Yo that was really good.
this was awesome
Is this AI or real people ? In both cases it is Marvelous and just WOW
All done by yours truly. Never have and never will use AI.
@@RufusJuice what was the music used? You gave a link in the description, but I could not find the specific song, only the artist's channel.
Also, amazing acting, especially for Angron. Few have been able to get his voice right, and he sounds exactly like he should here
This is the greatest voice for Angron Ive ever heard. If the Amber King ever does a video on the Red Angel, I pray you lend your voice to the project
Almost made me cry 😢
Could you do the throne room when Angron confronts the Nucerians
i can not find the music you used, and i think i just looked through all of the videos the channel you linked to has. i skipped to around the 45-50 seconds mark since that is where in this video those great vocals (i think the term fits, do not know if has another name) starts and assumed there would be some overlap. yet i cant find anything that fits.
I found this which has the piano bit, but not everything that's included in the background of this vdeo ua-cam.com/video/fc6U0StkC3c/v-deo.html (It's also notably NOT made by eternal eclipse..)
I've honestly watched this so many times now and can't get enough of it 😁😁😁 absolutely smashed it out of the park.
What song is it you used in the background? Honestly, it was so well chosen and just added to an already amazing performance 😁😁😁
Thanks for the compliment man. Honestly wouldn't be able to remember the names of the music if I tried. It's all royalty free though, so if you did enough searching you'd probably find it.
All the Emperor had to do was save Angron and his friends, he would have had one of the greatest warriors ever made as a loyal servant.
Amazing voice narration. Heartbreaking!
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Amazing
I desperately want Angron to finally die free after fighting one last time. And not for any great cause that he would care for, but still against a great foe of the galaxy so that his final death would be one he has chosen and one his brothers and sisters and sons could be proud of.
I wonder how the Heresy would have gone down if the Emperor had decided to teleport down and joined them. He would have won in moments. He clearly had the time to do fuck around with Vulkhan. If only the Emperor had made himself the saviour and not the prison guard to Angron
Angron is the only traitor primarch with a legitimate reason to rebel and the only one who deserves an answer from the Emperor.
I weep for angron, he may be a traitor now but I feel that there is still hope for him, angron, the world eaters, their tales are tragic and heart wrenching, I pray that in time, maybe, just maybe we could bring angron back to the light of the imperium, back with his brothers and sons and father, part of me hopes that is true, part of me clings to that shred of hope, and it is possible from what I can tell, take the clone of fulgrim for example, maybe it could happen, just maybe.
And then lorgar pulled a sneaky one on angron
Writers really fumbled the ball making the Emperor do something as stupid as not helping Angron
Perhaps the Nucerians were powerful enough to damage the War Hounds, or kill Angron. Perhaps the Emperor had psychically seen that Angron's brain was damaged, and wasn't going to risk losing one of his sons... one of his greatest tools.
@@lb5818 The Emperor is a weird case to understand, due to how... well, all over the place he can be depending on who's writing him, but I think there are at least two constants with him: he rarely deals in compromises and prefers to take the path of least resistance in diplomatic affairs. Like how with Mortarion, when it came to winning him over to his cause, he just took his son's wager and one-shot Mort's foster father instead of say... dedicating his Dusk Raiders to the fight to get the Primarch used to commanding Astartes and building up a base of trust over a cause Mortarion beleived in etc. He wanted Mortarion on the frontlines of the Crusade, so he chose the most expedient option.
Angron I think is much the same: the Eaters of Cities were doomed, it was clear as day, and the War Hounds needed a Primarch. If he dedicated them to the slave rebellion it'd only alienate the High-Riders and "waste" resources putting them down and rebuilding a whole new government that could instead have been put to expansion; there is a reason why the Imperium describes converted worlds as "compliant" rather than "loyal."
The more in-depth statecraft and changes from within were to come AFTER the Crusade had been finalised, something that Guilliman astutely points out in Know No Fear. The current state of the Imperium's hopelessly bloated bureaucratic institutions are arguably on account of the fact that the Crusade *didn't* end, instead it got pulled up by its roots by Horus and the other Traitor Legions and the Imperium's been scrambling to pick up the slack ever since.
The Emperor sought to put Angron into his role as the XII Legion's father above all else, and the rebellion was purely inconsequential to that fact, if not outright detrimental. So he cut his son out of the equation entirely.
@@lb5818 Or just write it better and not make the Emperor incapable of helping Angron
The emperor could have had a loyal son...had he helped.
Jesus christ my dude
Whats the name of the song? I've been looking thru eternal eclipse's entire library but I cant figure out which it is.
I found this which doesn't have everything but it does have the piano ua-cam.com/video/fc6U0StkC3c/v-deo.html
everyone who do you think is the most tragic primarch?
Whats the name of the music being used here?
I second this
*Upon the Lions gate, looking over the battlements and unto the Eternity Gate stood a towering angel of red flesh. Bronze armour slick with blood of fallen champions, sprayed there by the softly purring chainaxes in fists that could break titans.Priceless Itallic marble stones breaking under his feet as in its mind the everlasting rage was willed away. The unbearable pain of doing so borne with a warriors grim honour and remembrance. The pain exiled from his mind and body for a moment of tear filled clarity. His brother Sanguinius stood before the last gate before their Fathers sanctum, looking up at a being he did not know but for the emotions he could feel, as he could feel those of all his brothers.. ''Angron..'' The 9th Primarch uttered. Angron did not heed his brothers call. He looked at the golden gates, their existence a assault to his honour. The moment he had wanted was finaly here, and Sanguinius felt the horrible, painfull truth so keenly even he could not deny his brothers unleashed anger, the earth itself shook and the eternity gates groaned in their age pitted hinges, dust falling off ancient fresco's. The pain of the moment spread out unto all, all sound ceased, battle was paused. Angron, Primarch of the World Eaters had created trough his grief a moment of tranquillity on Terra. Mortal troops wept tears as for a brief moment they felt the anguish or a Primarchs heart. Some wished they could end themselves, but found their bodies would not move. The moment extended. The natural wind of Terra returned, weaving trough tattered banners and over the fallen and living alike. Then the terrible angel atop the lions gate inhaled and roared aloud. His vocal cords tore appart and blood filled his mouth and spilled over his fangs. At last shedding the blood he would have spilled so long ago on Desh'elika ridge freely from his body. Killing the last parts of him that yet remained in him that should have passed into dust and legends on Nuceria centuries ago. His mouth moved, forming words while he still could, before the nails and his new master would take everything else, the force of the spoken words cracking the stones of the palace with their wrath.*
'' Why! Why did you take me from them! ''
*Eight words did the Primarch speak, feeling the pull of the Blood god, and yet he denied the voice in his mind, pushing it away, Tears of blood streaked down his scarred leathery skin. But there was no awnser, from the eternity gate came no sound, nor did his Father reach out to him. Every voxchannel heard Angrons words, from the inner palace to the Vengefull Spirit. Horus knew his brother was now dead, his battle with the Emperor given a brief reprieve to remember a broken man, but a brother nontheless. Another pawn sacrificed in the great game he played.Rogal looked up from his strategium, holding his fist infront of his heart, using the reprieve in battle to give a thought of what could have been. Jagathai made a small circle with his Dao blade and sat in it, performing the Chogrisian rite of passing, to remember the best memories when one close goes into the eteral plains and to add their hopes the journey is swift. Inside the throneroom, The Emperor felt the last sliver of the beauty that would have been Angron perish. Auric tears dripping from his chin as His eyes looked at the closed gates and trembling walls. And as Angron died, the Emperor cried out from a wound not of the flesh but of failure, and a small part of him, died with his son*
Damn
Angron was arguably the Emperor's greatest folly.
seriously. couldn't just do a pity Exterminatus against the high lords who had caused his son to suffer so much?
oh well. 30+ years of lore, some of it's bound to be stupid
That was THE thing i don't understand. Why did the emperor doesn't conquest this world? Why he just took Angron and leaves the planet? Why, after Angron refuse helps, he didn't come on the surface to fight with him?
I understand Angron to hate the Emperor. I don't understand why the Emperor made this mistake.
Why He needs to destroy Nucerians if they willingly submit to the Emperor? They have technologies and power. Angron only have slaves which was losing. It's Rational. That's why I hate Big-E: he looks like human, fight for humans but he is not the one.
@@Verg887
Bah!
The Emperor wanted the planet to join peacefully (which it did). If the Emperor had sent forces to fight with Angron, the world might have rebelled.
@@StoneFrog4455
Good!
The High Riders deserved extinction.
Not just for how they treated Angron, but for the thousand thousand people they have enslaved.
Slavery is an abomination.
Angron needs to pull himself together! Chin up and get on with the Great Crusade, thats what let him down. No use crying over spilt milk. He needed to show some of the Great British spirit!
Fuck the great crusade
Given the scope of the galaxy and what meaning he could have had, his fixation on one revolt on one backwards planet is...pathetic.
You don't understand.
Angron was a slave,he wanted to die free.
Instead he was enslaved by the Emperor, and even when he was close to death by the hands of Guilliman,he was denied freedom by Lorgar.
@@terminallove3531 How childish. He is a demi-god with powers that can redeem his species. With power comes the burden of leadership.
@@TheHound402
His species?
And what exactly is his species, because he may look human, but humans aren't however tall he is,nor are they made using Warp fuckery.
@@terminallove3531 Primarchs are meant to be super-human looking, while of course being likely warp beings.
Angron cant feel sadness so him crying is not canon.
You never been so angry you've cried before?
@@RufusJuice Wtf no lol? Why would you cry if your angry?
@@DJsharp707 My brother in the warp, do you have emotions?
@@RufusJuice Rage is the purest of emotions
@@DJsharp707 lmfao dude thinks hes tough