INDOOR READY! 3600 Watt Milwaukee 2485 M18 Carry On Power Station [HURRICANE IAN READY]
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- Опубліковано 25 вер 2022
- The @MilwaukeeTool 2485 M18 Carry-On Power Station will power up to 3,600 Watts of start-up or 1,800 Watts continuous. Unlike your gas-powered generators, you can run this power station indoors. It does require four M18 batteries, but they can be of any Ah (Amp Hour) size. Milwaukee does recommend they should be 5.0Ah and larger. We powered ours with two 12Ah and two 5.0Ah batteries. The onboard charger will simultaneously charge all four batteries at the same time when plugged into 120V. These Carry-On power stations can be pre-ordered now.
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That light wattage draw set-up is awesome
It's a great tool, but do what you have to do to keep your family safe and comfortable. We lost power for 2 weeks last hurricane season and I'm extremely thankful for my gas generator.
Got my predator 9000 ready to go as well. Bought if after the Texas freeze
No doubt, we will. Thanks for the kind words.
It sucks but you MUST buy extra batteries so you can always be charging the next set of batteries if need be. In a situation like a hurricane or whatever the case may be you definitely need extra batteries to just keep the cycle going
Milwaukee makes a 12v car charger 48-59-1810, one could cycle batteries from a car charger to this generator and back
I lost power last year for a few days. I used my solar power station, during the day to charge my Milwaukee and ryobi batteries during the day, and would have those to supplement the actual power station through the night. Not a bad system, was running my living room, fridge and freezer the entire time.
I bought one and can't be more happy. I like it better than a solar panel type. Ask Amazon ???? Lol. I charge it on my trucks alternator. Has 2 120 volt plug ins. The batteries charge quickly. There is no surge. Absolutely Amazing 😉
So you use your gas vehicle to charge this battery? Why not just get a gas or LP generator at that point? Seems ridiculous honestly
@@sashly99sounds like it’s being charged while the truck is being driven
Interesting. Thanks!
Been waiting for this! Thanks for posting... btw the unit is 2845-20
hands down best review ever
Your watt hour calculations at 21:00 are only true if you have four identical batteries connected. Otherwise much of the energy in the 12ah batteries will never be used because the whole thing will shut down when the 5ah batteries die. Great overview.
Came to say this. What sucks about this generator is that it only operates on the lowest battery both in capacity and in power.
@@CharmelionZard The same on the Dewalt.
Really good video even on the audio. Lost me on the math, but thats on me. All in all it answered any questions I had.
In central area as well lake county! Stay safe,
I'm so stoked to get one or two. For now, watching you show it off will suffice. Looking to see real-world runtime on my fridge and freezer, and another on my well pump and router. I rarely lose power for a period 24 hours or longer, so this should cover me. Thanks for the video. Good math too. 👍🏻
Honestly for that function a purpose built solar power station, with lithium iron phosphate batteries, would work better. bluetti, ecoflow, pecron make good units for that. This is a great small use item, especially if you have alot of m18 batteries. Just
Because of the weight
@@jfraz6246 indeed a 200ah ithium iron phosphate battery cost about $600 now.
Thanks..
I do like the fact you can keep it in the house. Sadly after hurricanes, the sound of a generator is music to the ears of a crook.
The problem of powering tools while charging is simple. Plug the 2845 and an extension cord into the duplex outlet. If you can charge you obviously have power available to run other tools.
i agreed at least display to show voltage and amp output, chain up would be nice
absolutely need a solar charging
after watching again toward the end on math
you can’t add total wh
cuz they all run in series so you can only use the smallest battery
total running watt hour is based on 5Ah (90wh)
My correction, since this runs 72V x 5Ah, same for 72V x 12Ah
6:16 it would only require 6 relays (3 normally open and 3 normally closed) to switch when the input is powered and you would pull power from the cord and not the batteries.
Im in NW Florida. That is a great product, but it MUST have a way to recharge without power from the wall. After a major Hurricane power can be out for days.
You just need extra batteries that you can charge from the generator itself and just have them in rotation as you need
Wonder how big your generator would have to be to charge theses batteries and run the things you need to run?
Of note, from my understanding once one of the smaller batteries shuts off then the whole power station shuts down. IE. you are limited to the smallest pack's capacity in the tool. So those 12 ah packs won't get used to their fullest capacity if there are 2 5AH packs in the tool.
That's why I love using batteries on power tools because they are all charged off my solar system so it's kind of free power for all my tools Milwaukee of course....
A solar power charger would be the bomb would set the competition on there heels
Agreed. Would love to see a solar panel Charger option .
@@Shoptoolreviews I could probably make one but would love it if Milwaukee would take the lead I would also like to see them make a drone
Amps × Volts =Watts most useful info out of this!!!
I would think you would want 2 100w solar panels to charge it or it would take all day. I can test it with my 100w solar panel.
I agree with you about adding a screen. Many such devices has such a screen. Also adding the power while charging off ac which again only requires a relay and a little bit of electronic control. This means you do not have to move your plugs over to a separate power strip coming in. Solar interface is a great idea as you suggested. The other thing is the usb c if it is not, should be upgraded to full high voltage and amperage for powering laptops etc. This is 60-100w at 20v as the high power usb c standard can be used up to. ALSO the cage should be extended outward in the front, back and underneath to prevent water or dirt from getting in the bottom of the unit and protect the plugs in front if it tips or is knocked over. Keeping the unit away from everything around it on all sides by using the cage.
Those are some good ideas. I'm sure the cage was kept as tight as possible for size issues, but it definitely makes sense to have it bigger to protect those other items. Thanks for watching and sharing.
Very useful tool and a well explained video. I Have a question is it remotely possible if one had the right adaptors and leads to recharge a flat battery on an electric vehicle so you could drive say 3-4 km more to a charging station or home?
can i run a microware or a coffee maker? like where is my milwaukee coffee maker?!?!
I picked one up because I have 12 XC5.0AH batteries already
A 3 amp charger is the slowest charger that comes with your tool kits when you buy them. Rapid chargers are 6 amp and superchargers max out at 12
If 1 of your batteries were dead would it still run? I’m curious if it just "needs" to see 4 batteries in the bays but not necessarily all charged. Then it would actually deplete all batteries and you wouldn’t be limited to the lowest AH battery in the bay.
Hi, firstly want to say thanks for a very informative video on the m18 carry on, was probably one of the best vids that I’ve seen on this type of device. Also I would go out and buy this tomorrow with the 12 amp batteries if only Milwaukee was to indicate when Australians will be able to get their hands on it. Once again these big companies forget about the little country down in the arse end of the world.
Would like to also comment on what you said regarding Milwaukee not wanting to consider the domestic market, the diy or the RV population. This is a very arrogant attitude the large companies like this seem to have and I would like to point out to them that the trade population only equates to a small part of any population regardless of country. It’s about time that companies like this start pulling their heads out of their arses and realising this. There are many people like myself who would use something like this. I live in an apartment that has a garage that doesn’t have any power source. Also I’m into flipping houses for profit. Big companies like Milwaukee need to start and wake. Rant now over. Great stream keep up the good work. Milwaukee pull your head head out of your arse. I want this power generator . 👍
Also to add to what I said earlier, for the last year or so I’ve been on the fence trying to decide what battery platform to buy into and looking at the tech of each of the big brands. Right now I’m trying to decide between Milwaukees 18v range or Makita xgt 40v platform given this is the newest on the market. 🤔🤔🤔what to sink my money into
Hey just wondering.. will these CUT OFF if it's not powering anything for a little while, like a sump pump? Rockin 4 8ahs right now on mine.. lovin it
*That's a super cool power station, I wish Kobalt would do something like this.*
I agree with you 100% about the missing futures. Perhaps even an additional 2 battery plugin option for up to 6 total and 2 additional outlets would make it perfect.
Yes, additional outlets would be great. Thanks for watching.
Milwaukee specified 2 very important facts 1= it needs all 4 batteries to work and 2= it drains all the batteries at the same time, so if you have 2, 12 AH batteries & 2, 5 AH then it will default to your lowest AH battery, meaning once it drains the 2, 5 AH batteries it will turn off and it will have only drained 5 AH from the 12 AH batteries, so the way you should calculate this is by multiplying the lowest AH battery times 4... 5AH X 18V X 4 Batteries = 360 WH, not 612 WH.... Now if you were to use 4, 12AH Batteries then you would have 12AH X 18V X 4 Batteries= 864 WH which is exactly the same as using 2, 6AH Batteries on the MX version of the power station. 6AH X 72V X 2 Batteries =864 WH
Good video. Ditto the comment about run time available if all batteries are identical. If one battery is dead the whole unit shuts down.
I would not add the ability to charge and discharge at the same time, because of the shorter battery life. As mentioned at the end, the greatest cost for this system is the batteries.
I would like to see one of their multiple charging stations with ability to charge 4 batteries simultaniously using 110 volts or 12 volts from a vehicle or 12 volts from a solar panel. This would give you the ability to customize your jobsite. Do you need 4, 8, or 12 batteries at a time charging. Do you need 2, 4, or 6 outlets at a time. You can then get the number of outlet units needed and match up the number of charging stations needed to supply the number of charged batteries during the day.
The biggest drawback to battery powered tools has always been if the batteries you have can keep up with work.
Can this run a 9k btu mini split?.. lookin to cool & heat a tiny house. Mainly cool.. I have a Cubic Grizzly Wood burning stove .. I'm digging this power supply
Thinking of getting it when someone has a deal on it. The Ryobi one seems to be an all around better deal though. However I am not in there 40v battery line up, so buying 4 of those in the higher amp models is not inexpensive either.
i build power station 3000 watts pure sine wave 48V DC inverter 110V-120V AC 60Hz today run two digsaw one 7A 120V 60Hz nex one is 120V 60Hz 4A and i run 1500 watts heater 12A on my power station my is water proof ok that is not i can charge my and used it that you can i have volt meter tell how volt and percent my battery is
***Haha ok I understand now I commented before I watched the whole video. ***
So how would you figure out the amp hours on this...? Is four 5.0 batteries 20 ah? If so how many amp hours is a jackery in the category...? Trying to see what the milwaukee compares to
My question is why do I need a system that requires 4 batteries that I could use for my tools when I could have a Ecoflow or Bluetti system that has it's own dedicated Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries?
Because you need to plug them in eventually, with this system if you have a bunch of batteries, which most contractors do. You can always have a set of batteries charging on rotation as you need it yanno
How much is a Bluetti with 800Wh of power?
There is one in accuracy in what you talked about according to Milwaukee on this which is that it depletes all four batteries evenly at the same time meaning that if you have a 12.0 battery in and a 5.0 battery in its going to completely drain the 5.0 batteries while the 12.0 still have approximately half of their battery life. But the machine requires all four batteries to be charged so it will kick off when those 5.0 are depleted so your calculation of how much you have in the tank is inaccurate because you're only have as much as four times your smallest battery. That being said you can always swap the 5.0 out halfway through and then use the remainder of the 12.06 with the new ones
So i'd really like to see 4 12AH Milwaukee batteries charged on that thing with a Honda EU2000, or EU2200 as it's the smallest gen. Also a nasty old construction gen charge those batteries as well. How long would it take to charge the 4 12AH batteries and what amperage would the charger pull? Also if Milwaukee did offer solar charging it would have to have to support at least 1000w. You aint' getting nowhere with 100w.
2x 100W panels would charge a 12Ah battery in 1 hour.
@@Shoptoolreviews yes but with all the solar work I've done they only reliably operate at about 70% of rated and there is only 4-5 hours of "Sun" per day. You are also needing 4 12A batteries. Something to consider at least.
@@Shoptoolreviews you clearly never used solar panel in a real life situation. Most solar panel never get their official stated wattage. Most panel are 16 to 22% efficient. I would bet 20$ you won't fill an empty 12 Ah from 2x 100W (cheap-ass) solar panel
Im sure they could fit the technology in this tool to run a corded tool while its charging. They could change the controller to divert the incoming current to the output outlets and use the remaining current to charge the batteries. Lets say you're using a saw that takes 600W of power (wall outlets have a max of 1800W, lets say the generator uses 1000W., the controller diverts 600W of power directly to the outlet without going through the batteries at all. That leaves you with 400W to charge the batteries.
You are correct, and somehow you would have to have a stated limit as to what the power station could deliver during charging/discharging. Also, there's the cost of doing it, parts, etc. It's not impossible, but it is troublesome. Thanks for watching.
I'm missing the point of pass-thru. If you have access to grid power why not just use a triple tap or similar & charge the unit while running your corded tools? For UPS I guess??
Let's say you have the same amount in batteries with this and the ryobi 40v power station. Which one are you taking, why?
how long do it take to charge the main charger ?
how long can it run drawing the 1800watts with 4 12A packs.
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Buenas noches acabo de adquirir la maquina pero solo tengo una batería de 12 amperes, 2 de 8 amperes y 1 de 5 amperes puedo combinar esas baterías para encenderla o puede tener un problema para su funcionamiento?
My unit is doing something that I’m not sure if it’s normal or not? When running low wattage lights. I’m guessing around 30 watts. After 45 minutes the internal cooling fan in the unit kicks on loudly for around one second. It does it about every 3-4 minutes. Sometimes 1/2 second, sometimes one second. Anyone have this same experience? Is this normal?
I'm curious why they have ah on the batteries. Your calculation with a 15amp tool with those batteries was 20 mins I believe. But if you add up all the watt hours you got 34ah which should be a little over 2 hours with that same 15amp tool
Ah and A aren’t the same.
Can this station run a portable heater for example? Lets say I wanna run a 1800w heater with 4x 12amp batteries, how long would it last, asking from Canada.
If you put 4 12ah batteries on there you got 864 wh of battery power. About 10% of that will disappear in heat. What leaves you with 777wh. That means you can run a 1800wh heater for less than 30 minutes
@@gijsblok34 thanks!
Unfortunately, this is a major fail. You're essentially purchasing a four-bay charger & PSW inverter combo for $700. No ability to accept solar inputs, as well as charging while in-use, make it an even larger fail to other options on the market (that have LiFeP04 batteries) at this price point. Big, BIG fail is the fact the unit must run all-four batteries, so the capacity is limited to the lowest capacity battery out of the four. Milwaukee needs to go back to the drawing board on this one, most construction workers aren't paying $700 for a plastic power station (without batteries), when a 4.5kW gas generator can be purchased for $400.
If you have access to AC power then why would you run through the carry on instead of just plugging in directly and then using a different outlet to charge batteries ?
If you thought you were going to lose power, but didn't want the power interrupted -OR-
If you wanted to use less powerful power supply to charge it while the Milwaukee handled a high wattage load. There are many reasons. These are just two.
I have one for a year so sustained high draw is not really it's strong suit I've got 4 12.0s on it and they die really quick but the output is very impressive I can run a full size camper for about 20 minutes with the ac on
Also packout would have been nice
Will the batteries be damaged by pulling heavy amps for and extended period of time? Like from full power to empty.
This shouldn't be any different than what these batteries are used to. Especially, the larger Ah batteries (8 & 12Ah), they're used to being on saws, mowers, and other heavy-draw tools. Thanks for watching.
why did they choose to mount the receptacles upside down
Okay... so I am super super new to the tool game and I just want my family to be okay if we have any bad weather scenarios again, the main reason I clicked on your video... with that being said, is this the recommended generator for this situation or bite the bullet and go for the other generator released by Milwaukee? If this is your choice.. would it be recommended to get two generators? One to use and one to charge the batteries to swap? I understand that would be way more expensive again to pull off but if it's possible I'm fine with that.
Sorry if this is super long or if I just sound way too dumb...
No buy something you can also charge with solar. Like a ecoglow delta or something. This Milwaukee unit is great is you want to power something for a short period where there is no power. Like a saw or a pump. Not for powering a home for up to a few weeks. Then you want something that can charge and discharge at the same time.
Go to harbor freight and get a gas generator. They work great. Mine has saved me for the past ten years during power outages. You can get an AWESOME generator for $1000
Love it but it should be packout compatible.
Won't be long we will have some kind of 3D printed options
3:45, it's a screamer.
The model number should be 2845.
Needs 8 battery inputs and controls on very top
Pure sine wave?
Yes, it's pure sine.
You can't account for the whole of the 12ah batteries because the 5ah will die before the 12ah will so you have to count all the batteries as 5ah. They have less capacity. The 5ah batteries are the limiting factor. IE your capacity it that of your weakest link, the 5ah batteries. You will suffer even more because the 5ah packs have less amperage output without heating up because the packs do not have as high a discharge rate ability since they are only 2 set in parallel packs rather than 3 set in parallel like the 12ah., so you loose even more from the 5ah capacity due to heat loss then the same draw on the 12ah batteries. The 12ah packs also use 2170 rather than 18650 in the 5ah which gives them even more amperage output and less heat loss due to the cell design and capability inside.
I believe they are doing some balance discharging on these batteries, but we will verify this. Thanks again.
It's cheaper than the mx fuel power supply
True, but still expensive
The fan is noisy
No solar capability and total Wh capacity make this way too expensive and not that worth it. You need (must) at least 4x 12 Ah... $$$. Can't run a fridge/freezer or other useful heavy wattage appliances for long enough. Go with Honda generator or other silent brand
That is nonsense. If you are running on ac and charging, you simply put in a relay, and switch the ac output over to the ac input, no longer using the inverter/batteries at that time. All it requires is an additional relay and control electronics which is minor. No impact on the batteries.
Yes and No. If you're plugging in from a standard 120V (15A) wall outlet or ext cord and splitting the power between charging the batteries and powering the 120V ports, then you can't send the full 15-Amps to either side, you'd have to share it. So, you would be limited as to the rate you can charge at as well as the rate to which you're supplying to what's plugged into it. Therefore, to make both happen, it requires electronics and use of the batteries. We see your point, but it's not exactly black and white. Regardless, we'd like to see the option for both.
For the price, there are better choices out there, and they can be charged with solar........
Better to not scream at viewers :) Hearing damage from powertools:)?
Way to expensive compared to a decent generator.. what happens once its dead? I guess you can charge it by car but now your back to using gas anyways.. i have a inverter generator that sips gas.. it’s almost magical how long it can run on a gallon of gas
I need to be able to rip say a 1x10 or ply wood. As a women the tools are bigger/bulkier and I hate asking and waiting till hubby gets it done usually 1 month later ...
What do you recommend cutting maybe max 3/4 sheet plywood or 2x4 ,,,1x10 for ripping boards.. and please don't be condescending women like wood stuff too.. home depot has everything so high I can't see it or hold it..
nice video but you make your own power station run much longer than those you buy inverter 8000 watts pure sine wave and get 12 volt lithium battery 100 amp 1284 watts or even 200 amp battery build your own I going build my own power box will out that man one of those 12 volt 12 amp battery like all most 400.00 dollars I going making coming that can run fridge heater stove etc that will not cut it
Pure sine wave off USB. Lol okay buddy
This product totally misses the mark - there are solar generators (Bluetti AC200 MAX) that do more than this thing. This inverter, with roll bars, takes gas - gas to truck it out to someplace that has no electric, gas to truck back to civilization so it can be plugged in. No "pass thru" power? It cannot charge and power at the same time? No solar input - why? The max battery is only 4 12-amp hour batteries which is only 48-amp hours - hardly any real power at all. The price on that thing is $700 without any batteries - glad I have an AC200 MAX. The AC200 MAX also has 240 RV plug for the company onsite trailer.
Every time he scoots it across the table it sounds like a whining dog. 😂
I thought I had a mouse in my kitchen. Super annoying
Third problem-test, and a few more days in
Milwaukee service Centre. Told me regardless of use, carry on power supply uses nearly 1 amp per hour when not in use. 4 = 3 amp batteries will die overnight charging your phone, Yes they’ve made another lemon. And an awful lot of stories trying cover it up. As a contractor all I need is the truth. Not trying to hide behind the 5 Amendment.
Second problem-test, a few days later,
Milwaukee's horrible power supply Worse than I thought, see below for yesterday's results, today is much worse, I now realise that you need to switch off the power supply between each cut, as a trim carpenter using a small chop saw, the batteries run down very fast even when not using the saw, the amount of cuts they claim is outrageous and misleading,
First problem-test
Big problems, Milwaukee's new carry on, apart from the plugs being upside down, very annoying if you're putting in a two pin plug, the big problem, switched on but not in use the batteries die in 40 hours, even the big 12 amp, so if you are using this as a backup for anything, maybe for a sump pump, forget it
Cool but way overpriced for not including batteries. No thanks.
That is not a generator.
That's correct, it's a power station. However, it has the ability to power things inside, kinda like a generator outside. Thanks for watching.
use while charge it? pointless if you have an AC line why would anyone would use the generator...🤷♂️
Do you have to yell?
I love Milwaukee but this is a rip-off at almost $2 Per Watt HR you are better off with something like an Ecoflow Delta 2. It has the same 1800w power output plus 1024WH, solar charging, phone connectivity, and a display that gives you all the information. The cost on that comes out to about .97 cents per watt Hr
Just grabbed my carry-on.. With a free 8ah.. (internet deal from Ohio Power Tool) Have 2 8ah already from the flea market both for $180 NEW.. Just got the blower with a rapid charger & free 8ah from the flea market also new in the box for $185.. Cha-Ching.. 🤘
Having 4 8ah to power this beauty.. Nice 👊😠
Gonna be using 2 Carry-on's to power my tinyhouse.. WOULD LOVE 16 12ah batteries to run off grid.. 4k in batteries is the goal..
@just2wildandcrazydags 🤙
Third problem-test, and a few more days in
Milwaukee service Centre. Told me regardless of use, carry on power supply uses nearly 1 amp per hour when not in use. 4 = 3 amp batteries will die overnight charging your phone, Yes they’ve made another lemon. And an awful lot of stories trying cover it up. As a contractor all I need is the truth. Not trying to hide behind the 5 Amendment.
Second problem-test, a few days later,
Milwaukee's horrible power supply Worse than I thought, see below for yesterday's results, today is much worse, I now realise that you need to switch off the power supply between each cut, as a trim carpenter using a small chop saw, the batteries run down very fast even when not using the saw, the amount of cuts they claim is outrageous and misleading,
First problem-test
Big problems, Milwaukee's new carry on, apart from the plugs being upside down, very annoying if you're putting in a two pin plug, the big problem, switched on but not in use the batteries die in 40 hours, even the big 12 amp, so if you are using this as a backup for anything, maybe for a sump pump, forget it