8:41 "And they shall all subscribe, leave a like ... ". Wow, Sauron has some weird demands. I never read the book and never knew Tokein included this in his works.
Lol, I was reading it, thinking at first it was maybe going to be something out of the books, until I read “Like.” 😂 It was like a mental record scratch moment.
As I said last time on your video covering the Siege of Gondor: I like the fact that you describe the tactics as described in the book of The Return of the King while also using some clips and sound effects from the movie. It's a good combination like bacon and eggs.
Sam gladly took this title himself. Frodo was considered the greatest creature in Sam's life. Sam loved him as a friend. He had no cares for honor or glory, which is shown when he utterly rejects the quest, and looks for Frodo in Cirith Ungol.
They don't use the term in the film at all. The closet you get is Sam calling him Mr. Frodo. I believe in the books he calls him Master Frodo at some points. It is out of respect. Their relationship is that of a British Officer of the early 20th Century and their batman, or orderly.
@@Gwildor2020 I believe referring to one as "master" is an archaic equivalent of calling someone a "mister." Like you said, it's out of respect, like emphasising someone as a gentleman.
Funnily enough, this pet peeve is what makes Sam and his story so amazingly good. All Sam ever wanted was to be Frodo's servant, and if he was anything else, he would have perished to the ruin of all. When Sam takes the ring from Frodo's supposed dead body, he is given visions of greatness and grandeur, in an attempt by the ring to tempt him. It is due to Sam's simple nature that he doesn't heed those temptations, never seeking heroism or grandeur (in *direct* contrast to his movie fantasy of "Samwise the Brave"), but being content as Frodo's servant. This is the same temptation that Gandalf and Galadriel do not dare to even try to face. Therein lies Sam's strongest point. That is why he did end up saving the world - because of his simple nature. Sam essentially stood firm where any strong ally could not have. Tolkien was a brilliant author.
@@SomethingLegit1 Sauron neglected what Gandalf saw. I agree wholeheartedly, Sam was simple and he wished naught for anything else. He was content, what more can one ask? The One Ring had especially the Power to dominate powerful beings, and that's why Sam was almost unaffected by the Ring, for he was not powerful.
In time you can make the battles of the first age , when Feanor and Fingolfen and the first great men stood in the face of the great dark Lord Morgoth .
You probably dont care but if you are stoned like me atm you can watch all the new series on Instaflixxer. Been binge watching with my girlfriend lately =)
Love how detailed and accurate to the books your analysis was! Its good to see someone covering these battles in detail, and you’re the only channel I’ve seen cover them accurately to the lore. Could you next do the battles of the fords of isen? And maybe then gradually lead up to helm’s deep.
In the Second Age... the Last Alliance .. the remnants of Numenor and Noldor broke through the Black Gate , laid siege on Barad Dur itself , faced Sauron in single combat.... And defeated him.. There was no such feat again in the Third Age...
During the last alliance the forces of the west spent years besieging the black gate. They were likely well supplied and had sufficient siege engines for the task. Aragorn’s rag tag group had just been through a battle and had made a forced march through enemy territory while being harassed by the enemy. They had no lines of supply, no siege engines to take the gate and had not fortified their positions. Bad leadership
@@Canned_Knight I will do many, but I must limit myself. I hope to make them all some day! I cannot guess when that will be finished, for each video take an age!
@@jeffhreid Good leadership. The other leaders conferred with Aragorn, who was looked on as the top leader of humans, and he was counseled by the wisest present, Gandalf. They chose to sacrifice themselves, to draw the attention of Sauron, in order to assist the Ringbearer in his mission. Placing the overall good of Middle-Earth ahead of their own well-being was an act of wisdom and courage that should be lauded. This very point was not only made in the book, but by Tolkien in various letters after he published the novel.
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"...throughout his realm a tremor ran, his slaves quailed, and his armies halted, and his captains suddenly steerless, bereft of will, wavered and despaired. For they were forgotten."
I think out of everything in these videos (which are great by the way, 10/10) my favorite are the little rectangles for groups of soldiers that start to break as they lose
I watch a lot of WW-2 videos, and these graphical depictions that you do are very good. I've watched two so far and I'll end up watching them all eventually. Great work! Lots of good information about who is involved
@@LoreOfTheRingsYT I really hope for this project of yours to be very successful! most Channels feature Historical Battles and it's great I love those too but sometimes some fictional battles wouldn't hurt, not to mention you're probably the only one featuring battles from the lord of the rings. beside this one guy who's Channel's name is "hello future me" who featured the battle of five armies and some Elder Scroll battles as well but his more focus on writing video essays, Worldbuilding and talking about The Last Airbender.
you even made the outer wall of Minas Tirith black, thats an amazing love to details and knowledge of the lore. i'll call you Urok from now on. Cuz thats what you do.
This is soo well made, thank you for this wonderful video. I hope your channel will grow, it's quality is undeniable. Looking forward to next video, especially the battle animations :)
Don't let anyone criticize your graphics. Sure they're not a crazy special effects but what matters the most is clarity, and your visuals are never confusing or distracting.
I just found your channel and I am devouring those Tolkien's Versions explanations by the book battle, Great lively animations and great explanations, love your work!
@Jimmy Jazz Not lazy, he was just bad at writing them. I've never read of ice and fire, but from what I can tell all that back room dealing is more reminiscent of Roman politics.
Especially as Peter Jackson (wrongly) omitted it completely. If Tolkien's foreword to the second edition is anything to go by, he would have been horrified at that being missed out.
Again such a great video with so much details from the books, i enjoy every minute. I hope to see more battles in the future, the battle at isen were theodred were mortally wounded, or the attack on osgiliath were the nazgûl break trough gondors line to reach the shire.
My eyes are but curious and invested and not the ones of an elf. But I godda say, I love these battle lore videos like this one. Please, if you have the opportunity, continue doing them :)
Good sir, I just discovered you and this channel. I'm absolutely speechless. You captured all the lore and knowledge from the books and combined it with the excitement and drama of the movies. My Dad would read the books to me as a bedtime story when I was little and I of course developed a fierce love for ANYTHING related to Middle-Earth. I've lost count of how many times I've read the books or watched the movies. Thank you so much for all the time and effort you've put into this. Subscribed and telling all my buddies about it. That being said, I'm a selfish bastard... I want to hear about Nirnaeth Arnoediad... The Battle of Unnumbered Tears! Just a thought. No pressure. ;) Hurin Thalion is the most awesome character in the Tolkien universe. Thank you again!
Thanks for such a lovely comment! Don't worry, the First Age will come eventually, but I want to develop some real skill before undertaking those battles. They need to be treated with respect!
Well I'll be looking forward to it! You're doing freakin' awesome, keep up the good work! I think you already have the skill, it's just the Silmarillion is a convoluted mix of short stories so I imagine it would be a nightmare from a narrative perspective. It's just... that last stand by Hurin and his men.... It has Thermopylae/The Alamo written all over it.
I recently asked this question elsewhere, but I didn’t get a satisfactory answer so I thought I’d try here: How did Aragorn manage to convince thousands of Gondor and Rohan’s soldiers to march blindly in to their deaths. It’s not like they were aware of Frodo and Sam.
This passing can grant us some wisdom: "Yet suddenly for Faramir his heart was strangely moved with a feeling that he had not known before. Here was one with an air of high nobility such as Aragorn at times revealed, less high perhaps, yet also less incalculable and remote: one of the Kings of Men born into a later time, but touched with the wisdom and sadness of the Elder Race. He knew now why Beregond spoke his name with love. He was a captain that men would follow, that he would follow, even under the shadow of the black wings" Faramir was probably the greatest mortal man at the end of the third age, surpassed only by Aragorn. Aragorn had rescued Gondor in its dire need, and even healed many of its citizens. People had great respect for him, and would do the same as they did for Faramir. The Rohirrim had already followed their King to the Siege of Gondor, which was the same situation. They were loyal to their King. You also must remember Gandalf and his inspiration. This was his task, to inspire the forces of the free peoples to oppose Sauron. He also wore Narya which enhanced this ability. I hope this was a satisfactory answer, and if not, tell me what you find missing!
Aragorn had inspired all by bearing the banner of Elendil. The king of Rohan, Eomer was ready to follow Aragorn and the Rohirrim were already ready to die in any case. Important Gondorian figures such as Prince Imrahil and Faramir supported Aragorn after meeting him-Imrahil was technically the leader of Gondor as per Aragorn's request, so his knights and the armies were at his command. Aragorn allowed any men to stay behind at the crossroads of the fallen king as well as to fight for Cair Andros, leaving only 7000 at the Black Gate. Aragorn had this aura that inflamed men's passions, an echo of Elendil and the men of the lost West that people followed him or became his allies apart from the most wicked or twisted.
@@SantomPh I love how he allowed men to stay behind, ones from Rohan or Southern Gondor who hadn't witnessed the pure evil of Mordor and Sauron as intensively as others, but he did it by allowing them to keep their honour and pride by giving them tasks, tangible and credible tasks like re-taking Cair Andros. It's an often overlooked part of the book and the telling but I think it's very important to allow the reader to understand what kind of King he'd be and what kind of people he would lead.
@@paulguest3674 this action has also taken care of the army the Rohirrim had to avoid earlier in Anorien, so it is a win win situation. Aragorn would know how the young men of Rohan and Gondor felt, as he had also travelled this way at their age, and unlike them had to face his fears and literally cross into Mordor and the Harad , alone.
Excellent work! I hope you keep at it! It would be awesome if you continue. Make video like these for all the major battles of the war of the ring! What an achievement would that be...
Love the video. Good detail and followed that part of the story from the book pretty faithfully. Always wondered if forces x10's and more than x10's their match meant that one force had 60,000 and the other force 70-90,000 men/orcs for a total of at least 130,000-150,000 or if it was 6,000 (Men of West) x 10 x10 = 600,000 men/orcs which seems like quite a bit of overkill. The wording is ambiguous but I estimate that there were 150,000 men, orcs and trolls attacking the men of the west. Hated that Peter Jackson made the Gondorians look like the Red shirted Security guys on a Star Trek landing party.
I also hated that Peter Jackson underrated the Gondorians, but it was simply to make Mordor seem a larger threat at the siege of Minas Tirith. I really missed the Swan Knights of Dol Amroth tho. That was a bummer :/ The Lords of the West had approximately 6 000 soldiers, so Mordor had at least 60 000, but probably much more. Remember that Denethor told us that only 1 finger of Mordor had yet been stretched. There were at least 15 000 Haradrim at the siege of Minas Tirith, so the total forces must have estimated to at least 40 000 I think. That makes your assumption pretty reasonable to me! BTW cool name, is it a reference to Romendacil?
@@LoreOfTheRingsYT Yep Romandacil was the assumed name of the 8th and 19th Kings of Gondor meaning East Victor. I spent 9 years in the Far East so use the moniker. I would rather have seen the Knights of Dol Amroth at the siege of Minas Tirith as well instead of the Army of the Dead but it was more for pacing reasons and not having to introduce a new character. Just like Beregond and the Woses were left out. I estimate that Mordor had 20,000 gathered in East Osgiliath, another 20,000 from Minas Morgul and 18,000 Haradrim. While another host of 40,000 assailed Cair Andros and entered Anorien. The Battle at the Black Gate had the Host of Gorgoroth plus the Host of Nurn with an army of Easterlings so the 130-150,000 sound about right.
There is another major topic being discussed by all survivors in the city. If they were better off switching sides and submitting to the dark lord. Sounds crazy yet.... Their new king just brought an army of dead men abominations that proceeded to cut thru the enemy horde like a knife through butter. Evil creatures much more terrifying than orcs and trolls... Some type of green demon ghosts! Not even Sauron could command that many spirits at once! At least in the movie version.
@@LoreOfTheRingsYT awesome, a good one would be the gladden fields after the last alliance, unfinished tales version 😁 I'm looking forward to the war of the elves an sauron, as will touch on the numenor law 🙂
Tolkien did serve on the Western Front in the Great War, if only for about six weeks, he was evacuated with fever. There are a number of odd bits in Lord of the Rings, that speciffically refer to his service. Also the maps in the original Lord of the Rings, are reminisent of the trench maps of the area of the Somme where Tolkien served. So to stir it up, who is the Hero of Lord of the Rings?
8:37 Here to fullfil the request of the dark lord. Hey, I´m no Aragorn. I Sauron tells me to do something, i´ll roll harder than a Dwarf in a gigantic pile of gold.
Love this channel the quality and originality is off the charts his hard work is much appreciated. As for this battle I always felt Mordor used stupid tactics. They leave a huge defensive gate and fight in the open we all know how it ends and nothing would have worked for this battle was just a distraction. Mordor did not know this and it was not smart to leave the formidable defensive's just my opinion anyway.
You are underestimating just how outnumbered the Men of the West are. The Easterlings alone were 3 times the whole host and Trolls walked alongside Orcs and Haradrim. They were never under threat, there were even more armies inside Mordor. Tactics are not important when the enemy is as puny as that. Gandalf also tells Imrahil that Sauron will try to capture the big names and execute them like a man tries to take a sting from an fly-hence he will draw out the battle.
Got a question, a lot of video games and such feature the/a "War in the North" which is (as the name implies) north of Morder/Gondor/Rohan/etc. Is this made exclusively for that media, or is that actually something that exists in untold stories or such? I mean considering the close proximity Rhun, and the dwarves up there, it's certainly something I can see being a thing, but I am not aware if there is any material by Tolkein that speaks of it, since I have only read the Hobbit and LotR books.
There are two things i don't understand about this: 1. Where did Sauron get all those new troops after he lost almost his entire army on Pelennor fields? 2. Why did he take the bait even though he knew about the hobbits? He should have figured out that Aragorn doesn't have the ring after all, and he could clearly see that his army had no hope of breaching the black gate, so why not just scour Mordor looking for the hobbits, while a garrison held the black gate? He should have more than enough troops for that.
Despite the size of the massive force sent against Gondor, it was but a portion of the full military might pent up in the Black Land, waiting to be unleashed. Sauron did NOT know the Hobbits had the ring. Recall that Sam took it from Frodo after Shelob stung him, so it was never found when Frodo was stripped after he was found and taken to Cirith Ungol.
Sauron didn't lose his army on the Pelennor Fields, just the first wave. The army at the Black Gate was just as big as the last one. He had enough forces to attack Lothlorien, Mirkwood and Erebor/Dale as well as calling up the Corsairs, whom Aragorn intercepted with the Dead. Sauron didn't really know the hobbits had the one ring, just that they were spying in Mordor and lost their things. Aragorn does his best to threaten Sauron and make him think he has the Ring,by challenging him in the Palantir and announcing himself as king. Sauron has always hated the line of Isildur, so his attention is focused on Aragorn and Gandalf now. He was already intrigued by Pippin's use of the Palantir, realizing someone is using Halflings against him for some reason or other. Sauron however is extremely arrogant and feels Aragorn is the one who has taken the ring. Hence he ignores the Hobbit threat in his realm.
The time difference between the books and film are astonishing to me, obviously needed for the different mediums. The wall across gorgoroth to mount doom took the weakened hobbits WEEKS.
Perhaps, but it really isn't that interesting as a battle. But maybe as a tribute to the battle. I just created a community post where you can cast your vote!
I've pitched this idea to a different lotr channel but never took. With his advances in genetics, chemistry and industrialization, can saruman take over middle Earth without using the one ring?
Well it really depends. That means Saruman could not have fallen, and that means the history itself would be completely different, perhaps Sauron would have become the victor. It would take many of thousands years to discover these things as you speak of, except industrialization which was already there. We know that Tolkien intended perhaps the 7th or 8th age to be our time, but they were far longer. After Sauron was destroyed, Saruman would have left for Valinor, for he could no longer fulfill his mission. If we however say that Sauron won and Saruman was a successful ally (something he really wasn't, but let's pretend) then he could perhaps have ruled many men under Sauron. He would eventually find in Mordor the missing recipe for his own Ring of Power, and Sauron and Saruman could perhaps have started wars between each other, kind of like 1st WW. I haven't really dug in and thought much about it, but that's what I suppose.
Saruman perfected genetics with the creation of the urukai, and churning them out in massive scale. His mastery of chemistry was demonstrated at helm's deep. I think he could have taken a good chunk with what he had. Probably a good chunk more if he continued experimentation. Bigger and better urukai, development of firearms, and the industrial output to keep his armies armed and armored.
@@Demolitiondude He didn't pull orcs out of pits, he bred men with orcs. His explosions were also used in Mordor, so nothing new there. Saruman did not invent much on his own. His voice was his weapon. Given enough time in Mordor he would learn how to forge his own ring, but that was with the help of Sauron.
I just came over this and was expecting another story poorly told and lacking details, however this is so rich and amazingly produced! Well done sir..
Thank you good sir ;)
True
I came too
@Jimmy Jazz
Just shut up kiddo
I want to know more about that last stand of sauron faithful
8:41 "And they shall all subscribe, leave a like ... ". Wow, Sauron has some weird demands. I never read the book and never knew Tokein included this in his works.
I had no idea until the Mouth of Sauron listed them up... Weird...
At 8:38 on the bottom of the text, really like little details like that👍🤣.
You are the second to notice the Easter Egg, well done!
Lol, I was reading it, thinking at first it was maybe going to be something out of the books, until I read “Like.” 😂 It was like a mental record scratch moment.
@@Nova7o9 same here xD
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Please make the battle of dale and siege of erebor
They will come some day :)
Yes I would love to see that :D
Lore of Middle-Earth but how can you do it? there are so little information from tolkien for these battles,good content btw,keep on:)
Not much battle information, as the story is told in a summary.
As I said last time on your video covering the Siege of Gondor: I like the fact that you describe the tactics as described in the book of The Return of the King while also using some clips and sound effects from the movie. It's a good combination like bacon and eggs.
It just fits together naturally! Thank you!
I feel offended by Sam being called "servant" of Frodo. He is the Bearer of the Ring Bearer.
Sam gladly took this title himself. Frodo was considered the greatest creature in Sam's life. Sam loved him as a friend. He had no cares for honor or glory, which is shown when he utterly rejects the quest, and looks for Frodo in Cirith Ungol.
They don't use the term in the film at all. The closet you get is Sam calling him Mr. Frodo. I believe in the books he calls him Master Frodo at some points. It is out of respect. Their relationship is that of a British Officer of the early 20th Century and their batman, or orderly.
@@Gwildor2020 I believe referring to one as "master" is an archaic equivalent of calling someone a "mister." Like you said, it's out of respect, like emphasising someone as a gentleman.
Funnily enough, this pet peeve is what makes Sam and his story so amazingly good. All Sam ever wanted was to be Frodo's servant, and if he was anything else, he would have perished to the ruin of all.
When Sam takes the ring from Frodo's supposed dead body, he is given visions of greatness and grandeur, in an attempt by the ring to tempt him. It is due to Sam's simple nature that he doesn't heed those temptations, never seeking heroism or grandeur (in *direct* contrast to his movie fantasy of "Samwise the Brave"), but being content as Frodo's servant. This is the same temptation that Gandalf and Galadriel do not dare to even try to face.
Therein lies Sam's strongest point. That is why he did end up saving the world - because of his simple nature. Sam essentially stood firm where any strong ally could not have. Tolkien was a brilliant author.
@@SomethingLegit1 Sauron neglected what Gandalf saw. I agree wholeheartedly, Sam was simple and he wished naught for anything else. He was content, what more can one ask? The One Ring had especially the Power to dominate powerful beings, and that's why Sam was almost unaffected by the Ring, for he was not powerful.
In time you can make the battles of the first age , when Feanor and Fingolfen and the first great men stood in the face of the great dark Lord Morgoth .
Yup :)
And the Fall of Gondolin
As always, superb production quality my friend!
Thank you Karl! You are the real master! Means very much to me!
@@LoreOfTheRingsYT can you pin his comment please!!
You probably dont care but if you are stoned like me atm you can watch all the new series on Instaflixxer. Been binge watching with my girlfriend lately =)
@Maddux Sam yea, I have been watching on InstaFlixxer for since december myself :D
They heard a sound they all along had feared:
"WHERE THERE'S A WHIP, THERE'S A WAY!"
easterlings and orcs : lets ambush this gondor and rohirrim forces
Aragorn : YOU ACTIVATED MY TRAP CARD!
Indeed!
Sauron needed Admiral Ackbar, not the Mouth of Sauron.
Love how detailed and accurate to the books your analysis was! Its good to see someone covering these battles in detail, and you’re the only channel I’ve seen cover them accurately to the lore. Could you next do the battles of the fords of isen? And maybe then gradually lead up to helm’s deep.
I would do the Fords of Isen and then Helms Deep at some point. First exams!
Your beautiful storytelling made me cry. You honor Tolkien's works and I hope more of the world can appreciate this Middle Earth more.
Fantastic :)
In the Second Age... the Last Alliance .. the remnants of Numenor and Noldor broke through the Black Gate , laid siege on Barad Dur itself , faced Sauron in single combat....
And defeated him..
There was no such feat again in the Third Age...
That battle will be covered some day :)
During the last alliance the forces of the west spent years besieging the black gate. They were likely well supplied and had sufficient siege engines for the task. Aragorn’s rag tag group had just been through a battle and had made a forced march through enemy territory while being harassed by the enemy. They had no lines of supply, no siege engines to take the gate and had not fortified their positions. Bad leadership
@@LoreOfTheRingsYT Will you do the fifth battle from the first age?
@@Canned_Knight I will do many, but I must limit myself. I hope to make them all some day! I cannot guess when that will be finished, for each video take an age!
@@jeffhreid Good leadership. The other leaders conferred with Aragorn, who was looked on as the top leader of humans, and he was counseled by the wisest present, Gandalf. They chose to sacrifice themselves, to draw the attention of Sauron, in order to assist the Ringbearer in his mission.
Placing the overall good of Middle-Earth ahead of their own well-being was an act of wisdom and courage that should be lauded. This very point was not only made in the book, but by Tolkien in various letters after he published the novel.
Nice touch with the Mouth of Sauron's demands. Quality content!
Thank you! Those little lines is worth so much :)
Lore of Middle-Earth I actually subscribed when I read that :0
Sauron could not see the enemies greatest gift...the pause button!
The way you read keeps me coming back to this video
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8:38 The easter egg lol
well done, sauron asking me to subscribe
"...throughout his realm a tremor ran, his slaves quailed, and his armies halted, and his captains suddenly steerless, bereft of will, wavered and despaired. For they were forgotten."
Amazingly produced and visually abstracted. Great way to refresh your memory as a bookreader. Your videos are worth more than a coat of mithril!
Thank you for such a lovely comment! I spend a lot of time on these videos, so it truly is appreciated!
I think out of everything in these videos (which are great by the way, 10/10) my favorite are the little rectangles for groups of soldiers that start to break as they lose
Those little details is what I strive for!
I watch a lot of WW-2 videos, and these graphical depictions that you do are very good. I've watched two so far and I'll end up watching them all eventually. Great work! Lots of good information about who is involved
Wow the amount of effort put into this is simply amazing! I can see the love and attention to detail in this work well done Lord of Middle-Earth!
Thank you!
@@LoreOfTheRingsYT I really hope for this project of yours to be very successful! most Channels feature Historical Battles and it's great I love those too but sometimes some fictional battles wouldn't hurt, not to mention you're probably the only one featuring battles from the lord of the rings. beside this one guy who's Channel's name is "hello future me" who featured the battle of five armies and some Elder Scroll battles as well but his more focus on writing video essays, Worldbuilding and talking about The Last Airbender.
you even made the outer wall of Minas Tirith black, thats an amazing love to details and knowledge of the lore.
i'll call you Urok from now on. Cuz thats what you do.
When people notice that, I smile when I read the comment. Can I ask who Urok is, sorry for not taking the reference :P
@@LoreOfTheRingsYT ugh you want me to ruin my own joke but okay. Urok = "you rock" but also looks like Uruk.
This is soo well made, thank you for this wonderful video. I hope your channel will grow, it's quality is undeniable. Looking forward to next video, especially the battle animations :)
Thank you for your lovely comment!
Don't let anyone criticize your graphics. Sure they're not a crazy special effects but what matters the most is clarity, and your visuals are never confusing or distracting.
Thank you!!
Very clever, the end of the scroll listing Sauron's demands. Very interesting. lol.
Keen eyed!
@@LoreOfTheRingsYT Very well done! Thanks for posting, enjoyed it very much.
Sauron has a youtube Channel.
Another one of these, excellent! Your attention to detail is amazing.
Thank you :)
You do a wonderful job of combining the tactic (moving the armies about) and story-telling (the narration). Well done!
Lovely to hear that :)
3:45 :( how you dare to not make a "where there's a whip there's a way" reference ;)
That scene is very iconic. Sadly I miss certain details!
It *is* a really catchy song!
Please continue this great job and for the next time i would like to see something about the battles in the north during the war of the ring!!!
Surely I will cover them one day!
Well done. Glad you take the source material seriously.
Thank you :)
I just found your channel and I am devouring those Tolkien's Versions explanations by the book battle, Great lively animations and great explanations, love your work!
Awesome, thank you!
J R R Tolkien: i had been to war
J R Martin: i had fought a tree
hung nguyen : Tolkien understood medieval warfare. Martin understood medieval politics.
Tim Smith imagine if they fused and made the lord of the throne
@Jimmy Jazz Not lazy, he was just bad at writing them. I've never read of ice and fire, but from what I can tell all that back room dealing is more reminiscent of Roman politics.
Very well dude can you do the battle with the shire and saruman?
I am definitely considering it!
geopro007 haha a bunch of hobbits killing half orcs. Lol
Yeah it's true
Good idea
Especially as Peter Jackson (wrongly) omitted it completely. If Tolkien's foreword to the second edition is anything to go by, he would have been horrified at that being missed out.
Again such a great video with so much details from the books, i enjoy every minute. I hope to see more battles in the future, the battle at isen were theodred were mortally wounded, or the attack on osgiliath were the nazgûl break trough gondors line to reach the shire.
Thank you! There will be more :)
Sykt bra laga kompis
Herlig kommentar der altså! Vakkert å se at du liker videoene :)
Markus André Jensen Känner ni varandra?
@@melkor3496 Ja gjør det ^^
Markus André Jensen Tur att norska inte är danska då hade jag inte förstått vad du sa. XD
Well made! Great quality. I like the characters with their drawn apparence. It brings something new then just movie's images.
Thank you!
Amazing video!! 🙌🏻
Thank you Floki!
@@LoreOfTheRingsYT Love the graphics in the video too, really well made! Can't wait for more! 😊
Glad to hear that! Massive fan of Vikings btw! Make sure to check out the Siege of Gondor as well!
My eyes are but curious and invested and not the ones of an elf. But I godda say, I love these battle lore videos like this one. Please, if you have the opportunity, continue doing them :)
I will continue them during summer, for now, I have exams, and it would simply require too much. Can't wait to continue my work on them :)
Lore of Middle-Earth yeah, very understandable :) good luck!
Good sir, I just discovered you and this channel. I'm absolutely speechless. You captured all the lore and knowledge from the books and combined it with the excitement and drama of the movies. My Dad would read the books to me as a bedtime story when I was little and I of course developed a fierce love for ANYTHING related to Middle-Earth. I've lost count of how many times I've read the books or watched the movies. Thank you so much for all the time and effort you've put into this. Subscribed and telling all my buddies about it. That being said, I'm a selfish bastard... I want to hear about Nirnaeth Arnoediad... The Battle of Unnumbered Tears! Just a thought. No pressure. ;) Hurin Thalion is the most awesome character in the Tolkien universe. Thank you again!
Thanks for such a lovely comment! Don't worry, the First Age will come eventually, but I want to develop some real skill before undertaking those battles. They need to be treated with respect!
Well I'll be looking forward to it! You're doing freakin' awesome, keep up the good work! I think you already have the skill, it's just the Silmarillion is a convoluted mix of short stories so I imagine it would be a nightmare from a narrative perspective. It's just... that last stand by Hurin and his men.... It has Thermopylae/The Alamo written all over it.
I recently asked this question elsewhere, but I didn’t get a satisfactory answer so I thought I’d try here:
How did Aragorn manage to convince thousands of Gondor and Rohan’s soldiers to march blindly in to their deaths. It’s not like they were aware of Frodo and Sam.
This passing can grant us some wisdom:
"Yet suddenly for Faramir his heart was strangely moved with a feeling that he had not known
before. Here was one with an air of high nobility such as Aragorn at times revealed, less high
perhaps, yet also less incalculable and remote: one of the Kings of Men born into a later time, but
touched with the wisdom and sadness of the Elder Race. He knew now why Beregond spoke his
name with love. He was a captain that men would follow, that he would follow, even under the
shadow of the black wings"
Faramir was probably the greatest mortal man at the end of the third age, surpassed only by Aragorn. Aragorn had rescued Gondor in its dire need, and even healed many of its citizens. People had great respect for him, and would do the same as they did for Faramir. The Rohirrim had already followed their King to the Siege of Gondor, which was the same situation. They were loyal to their King. You also must remember Gandalf and his inspiration. This was his task, to inspire the forces of the free peoples to oppose Sauron. He also wore Narya which enhanced this ability. I hope this was a satisfactory answer, and if not, tell me what you find missing!
Lore of Middle-Earth definitely satisfactory haha. Thanks for explaining that it definitely makes much more sense now. And thanks for the great vid
Aragorn had inspired all by bearing the banner of Elendil. The king of Rohan, Eomer was ready to follow Aragorn and the Rohirrim were already ready to die in any case. Important Gondorian figures such as Prince Imrahil and Faramir supported Aragorn after meeting him-Imrahil was technically the leader of Gondor as per Aragorn's request, so his knights and the armies were at his command.
Aragorn allowed any men to stay behind at the crossroads of the fallen king as well as to fight for Cair Andros, leaving only 7000 at the Black Gate.
Aragorn had this aura that inflamed men's passions, an echo of Elendil and the men of the lost West that people followed him or became his allies apart from the most wicked or twisted.
@@SantomPh I love how he allowed men to stay behind, ones from Rohan or Southern Gondor who hadn't witnessed the pure evil of Mordor and Sauron as intensively as others, but he did it by allowing them to keep their honour and pride by giving them tasks, tangible and credible tasks like re-taking Cair Andros.
It's an often overlooked part of the book and the telling but I think it's very important to allow the reader to understand what kind of King he'd be and what kind of people he would lead.
@@paulguest3674 this action has also taken care of the army the Rohirrim had to avoid earlier in Anorien, so it is a win win situation.
Aragorn would know how the young men of Rohan and Gondor felt, as he had also travelled this way at their age, and unlike them had to face his fears and literally cross into Mordor and the Harad , alone.
Excellent work! I hope you keep at it! It would be awesome if you continue. Make video like these for all the major battles of the war of the ring! What an achievement would that be...
I am working on the Battle of the Five Armies now! I have been busy with exams, but I now work to get much work done!
Wow, has to be one of the most detailed and visually best lore video I've ever watched about LOTR. Really good work, keep it up!
Great! Thanks for leaving such a fine comment :)
Seen two videos today and was very impressed. Great attention to detail and very enjoyable videos with great sounds and visuals.
Well Done!
Happy to hear that!
8:41 Who would be Saruman's replacement to rule over Isengard?
The Mouth himself!
IT would be: peppa the pig
The passage in the video concludes with a strong indication it would be the Mouth himself.
Just another amazing video. Well done.... you make me want to read the books and watch the movies all over again.
Glad to hear that! Read the book during summer!
I love how important the Rohirrim are, because I find it difficult to think of them as anything besides Angry Horse Men
Angry Horse Men that answered
And saved the world
The dialogue between host of the west and the Mouth of Sauron is perhaps my favourite part of the book.
This is "quality" we need on UA-cam. This is awesome!
Love the video. Good detail and followed that part of the story from the book pretty faithfully. Always wondered if forces x10's and more than x10's their match meant that one force had 60,000 and the other force 70-90,000 men/orcs for a total of at least 130,000-150,000 or if it was 6,000 (Men of West) x 10 x10 = 600,000 men/orcs which seems like quite a bit of overkill. The wording is ambiguous but I estimate that there were 150,000 men, orcs and trolls attacking the men of the west. Hated that Peter Jackson made the Gondorians look like the Red shirted Security guys on a Star Trek landing party.
I also hated that Peter Jackson underrated the Gondorians, but it was simply to make Mordor seem a larger threat at the siege of Minas Tirith. I really missed the Swan Knights of Dol Amroth tho. That was a bummer :/ The Lords of the West had approximately 6 000 soldiers, so Mordor had at least 60 000, but probably much more. Remember that Denethor told us that only 1 finger of Mordor had yet been stretched. There were at least 15 000 Haradrim at the siege of Minas Tirith, so the total forces must have estimated to at least 40 000 I think. That makes your assumption pretty reasonable to me! BTW cool name, is it a reference to Romendacil?
@@LoreOfTheRingsYT Yep Romandacil was the assumed name of the 8th and 19th Kings of Gondor meaning East Victor. I spent 9 years in the Far East so use the moniker. I would rather have seen the Knights of Dol Amroth at the siege of Minas Tirith as well instead of the Army of the Dead but it was more for pacing reasons and not having to introduce a new character. Just like Beregond and the Woses were left out. I estimate that Mordor had 20,000 gathered in East Osgiliath, another 20,000 from Minas Morgul and 18,000 Haradrim. While another host of 40,000 assailed Cair Andros and entered Anorien. The Battle at the Black Gate had the Host of Gorgoroth plus the Host of Nurn with an army of Easterlings so the 130-150,000 sound about right.
Are you from Norway...? Something about your dialect says so
Indeed I am!
I knew it!
wanted to ask a similar question, but I thought he came from Switzerland/Valais xD
@@LoreOfTheRingsYT Hah! God ettermiddag. subbed
harald Baldr
I love how the old core of Gondor is a reflection of their "religion": Sun, Moon, & Star / Laurelin, Telperion, & Silmaril.
Well said!
There is another major topic being discussed by all survivors in the city. If they were better off switching sides and submitting to the dark lord. Sounds crazy yet.... Their new king just brought an army of dead men abominations that proceeded to cut thru the enemy horde like a knife through butter. Evil creatures much more terrifying than orcs and trolls... Some type of green demon ghosts! Not even Sauron could command that many spirits at once!
At least in the movie version.
When Westrons saw the glittering Frodo mithril mail in the orcs hands...they all were like "ohfuckno" !!!
what software do you use to make the symbology and animated strategic graphics?
I use Final Cut Pro X for video editing, Photoshop for element creation and Wonderdraft for map creation.
"Wally upon Wally..." Great video! Thanks for bring this to life for us!
Thank you :)
I've just found your videos and I must say I love them ! Very good job and thanks :)
Lovely!
Very much enjoyed this, keep up the good work. I hope you will do some videos from the first and second ages of the sun. Pretty please :)
Second Age is next up. War of the Elves and Sauron and then War of the Last Alliance.
@@LoreOfTheRingsYT awesome, a good one would be the gladden fields after the last alliance, unfinished tales version 😁 I'm looking forward to the war of the elves an sauron, as will touch on the numenor law 🙂
I always find myself loving the production of your videos, stellar work :)
Thank you! Makes me happy to hear that :)
Now I found one of good channel about middle-earth things.keep it up!!
Thank you!
7:55 When the black gate started opening, my roommate suddenly opened the door XD
xD Cool insight, such things always is so funny 😂 Coincedence? I think not.
8:40 LOL that was a nice touch!
7:49 I really love this depiction of The Black Gate. More grounded.
Tolkien did serve on the Western Front in the Great War, if only for about six weeks, he was evacuated with fever. There are a number of odd bits in Lord of the Rings, that speciffically refer to his service. Also the maps in the original Lord of the Rings, are reminisent of the trench maps of the area of the Somme where Tolkien served. So to stir it up, who is the Hero of Lord of the Rings?
Excellent job! Great visual presentation, keep up the good work!
Thank you!!
I love this new format, I hope you keep making new videos like this! I don't mind waiting a while for some good quality content.
More will come during the summer! First a less time consuming video + exams. But look forward to summer :)
@@LoreOfTheRingsYT Good luck with your exams, and I will be looking foward!
I am quite used to the Epic History TV channel videos on real life battles so to see LOTR in a similar style was very satisfying.
Great to hear that :)
"wolly upon wolly of arrows" your accent gives you away my Elvish friend. ;)
I strive to improve it :) But one only has time for so much :)
You deserve far more views and subscribers. I’m amazed by the detailed information. Hope you keep up with all this content! =)
Thank you! I have no plans to do quantity instead of quality. I find it more inspiring to focus on the quality aspect.
This is very good. I really enjoyed it! May you have more inspiration for more great quality videos in the future!
Thank you, I will!
8:37
Here to fullfil the request of the dark lord.
Hey, I´m no Aragorn. I Sauron tells me to do something, i´ll roll harder than a Dwarf in a gigantic pile of gold.
Keen eyed!
Great video about the battle of the black gate. I felt sorry for sauron as he was very close to victory.
Indeed Duncan! Too close one should say!
You have a great speaking voice. Enjoy listening to your vids and they are very well made. Keep it up!
Thank you mr. Mireles!
Great video! Was waiting for this!
I really hope you do battle of five armies someday.
I will certainly do that one :)
Another great video! I hope your channel grows quickly!
It already does! Let's hope will continue!
Love this channel the quality and originality is off the charts his hard work is much appreciated. As for this battle I always felt Mordor used stupid tactics. They leave a huge defensive gate and fight in the open we all know how it ends and nothing would have worked for this battle was just a distraction. Mordor did not know this and it was not smart to leave the formidable defensive's just my opinion anyway.
Thank you Mr!
You are underestimating just how outnumbered the Men of the West are. The Easterlings alone were 3 times the whole host and Trolls walked alongside Orcs and Haradrim.
They were never under threat, there were even more armies inside Mordor. Tactics are not important when the enemy is as puny as that.
Gandalf also tells Imrahil that Sauron will try to capture the big names and execute them like a man tries to take a sting from an fly-hence he will draw out the battle.
I think the like and sub part of the ultimatum really pushed Aragorn away from accepting Saurons demand
Great video!! Cant wait for whats to come
Der ja!
Got a question, a lot of video games and such feature the/a "War in the North" which is (as the name implies) north of Morder/Gondor/Rohan/etc. Is this made exclusively for that media, or is that actually something that exists in untold stories or such? I mean considering the close proximity Rhun, and the dwarves up there, it's certainly something I can see being a thing, but I am not aware if there is any material by Tolkein that speaks of it, since I have only read the Hobbit and LotR books.
War in the North did exist. The Kingdom of Arnor got threatened and destroyed by the Kingdom of Angmar. Much can be said about that conflict!
Wait so Nordinbad actually exists in middle earth? Not just in War in the north?
@@andreweades6248 it doesn't. To facilitate the games a lot had to be added, and not often in line with canon
I'm so glad you uploaded this. Your videos have been a great watch while stuck in qaurantine. Thank you.
Glad to hear that! In difficult times one needs to be entertained to forget the difficulties!
Nice video man let's see some older famous battles like the war of wrath I just recently started learning the history and these videos help a lot
Yup many will come!
I gladly agree to Mordor's last demand.
Fantastic. Thank you.
8:39 “then they shall all subscribe” I was like “wait sauron’s starting a youtube channel?” Lmao
Had to do a double take when those words came up while reading through the parchment. My guy did a sneaky one!
Specs He put on the one ring for a sec lol
Keen eyed!
There are two things i don't understand about this:
1. Where did Sauron get all those new troops after he lost almost his entire army on Pelennor fields?
2. Why did he take the bait even though he knew about the hobbits? He should have figured out that Aragorn doesn't have the ring after all, and he could clearly see that his army had no hope of breaching the black gate, so why not just scour Mordor looking for the hobbits, while a garrison held the black gate? He should have more than enough troops for that.
Despite the size of the massive force sent against Gondor, it was but a portion of the full military might pent up in the Black Land, waiting to be unleashed.
Sauron did NOT know the Hobbits had the ring. Recall that Sam took it from Frodo after Shelob stung him, so it was never found when Frodo was stripped after he was found and taken to Cirith Ungol.
Sauron didn't lose his army on the Pelennor Fields, just the first wave. The army at the Black Gate was just as big as the last one. He had enough forces to attack Lothlorien, Mirkwood and Erebor/Dale as well as calling up the Corsairs, whom Aragorn intercepted with the Dead.
Sauron didn't really know the hobbits had the one ring, just that they were spying in Mordor and lost their things. Aragorn does his best to threaten Sauron and make him think he has the Ring,by challenging him in the Palantir and announcing himself as king. Sauron has always hated the line of Isildur, so his attention is focused on Aragorn and Gandalf now. He was already intrigued by Pippin's use of the Palantir, realizing someone is using Halflings against him for some reason or other.
Sauron however is extremely arrogant and feels Aragorn is the one who has taken the ring. Hence he ignores the Hobbit threat in his realm.
love your videos please keep them coming . There helping me from going insane during this Quarantine
Glad to help! It's a catastrophic event, but we will prevail. Just as Aragorn and Co were victorious in their hopeless case!
The time difference between the books and film are astonishing to me, obviously needed for the different mediums. The wall across gorgoroth to mount doom took the weakened hobbits WEEKS.
Was about to say this deserves a lot more views... Until I realised it just came out.
:) Thanks!
8:38 😂 „They shall subscribe“
Kudos! Very good impress with your art and story telling.
Thank you!
my god that was one of the best middle earth videos ive seen subbed
Thanks Sidious! Happy to see that you travelled the galaxy to witness this!
Your channel is so good man. Keep it up.
Thank you! Happy to hear that!
This is incredible could you do the battle of the 5 armies at some point
Yup :)
Hahaha, loved the like comment and subscribe bit at the end of the demands for frodo's release, totally didnt see that coming.
Keen eyed you are!
PLZ do one of the scourging of the shire. battle plan. such an underated moment in the return of the king
I might in the future!
This is amazing. Superb. Love the voice.
Love to hear that!
8:37 Lmao. Well played, well played.
:P Thank you!
I love these types of videos! Please make more! Keep up the good work. I also had the eyes of elves
Keen-eyed! Thank you!
Lore of Middle-Earth you’re very welcome! Might I ask what program(s) you use to make this?
I think this made me want to read the book again...
Awesome to hear that!
Please keep up the good work! Scouring of the Shire next?
Perhaps, but it really isn't that interesting as a battle. But maybe as a tribute to the battle. I just created a community post where you can cast your vote!
I've pitched this idea to a different lotr channel but never took. With his advances in genetics, chemistry and industrialization, can saruman take over middle Earth without using the one ring?
Well it really depends. That means Saruman could not have fallen, and that means the history itself would be completely different, perhaps Sauron would have become the victor. It would take many of thousands years to discover these things as you speak of, except industrialization which was already there. We know that Tolkien intended perhaps the 7th or 8th age to be our time, but they were far longer. After Sauron was destroyed, Saruman would have left for Valinor, for he could no longer fulfill his mission. If we however say that Sauron won and Saruman was a successful ally (something he really wasn't, but let's pretend) then he could perhaps have ruled many men under Sauron. He would eventually find in Mordor the missing recipe for his own Ring of Power, and Sauron and Saruman could perhaps have started wars between each other, kind of like 1st WW. I haven't really dug in and thought much about it, but that's what I suppose.
Saruman perfected genetics with the creation of the urukai, and churning them out in massive scale. His mastery of chemistry was demonstrated at helm's deep. I think he could have taken a good chunk with what he had. Probably a good chunk more if he continued experimentation. Bigger and better urukai, development of firearms, and the industrial output to keep his armies armed and armored.
@@Demolitiondude He didn't pull orcs out of pits, he bred men with orcs. His explosions were also used in Mordor, so nothing new there. Saruman did not invent much on his own. His voice was his weapon. Given enough time in Mordor he would learn how to forge his own ring, but that was with the help of Sauron.
That's still a pretty high speed of production. Having several units of urukai ready and armed.