It's a easy repair replacing the bolt. The bolt shears the head off and drops it in the engine it's a major failure. But replacing the the bolt is easy. Pull the Evap Canister, Starter/Gen, Clutch Cover. Pull bolt replace with new bolt, replace clutch cover gasket. Bolt can fail on 6MT or DCT.
@@hanspraet332 You don't have to remove the fuel tank. There is a well known Goldwing mechanic that thinks the tank has to be removed. Look at your bike. Removing the fuel tank is a waste of time. Pull the evap can and coolant overflow and there is plenty of room to work it. I have the parts to do mine and was going to replace it over the winter myself. But now that there is going to be a recall and the fuel pump recall needs to be done. I will just let a dealer screw with this plastic fantastic. I have a Yamaha MT-09 to ride while the Wing is in the shop.
Hi Chris-Really appreciate you getting this information presented to the Gold Wing community. In our local ride group here in Wisconsin, there are 5 other Gold Wing riders...4 of which have 2018 models. I did pass along your PSA video to them today and they were very appreciative. It will be interesting to find out more as information becomes available. Thanks again.
I’m glad you mentioned the ticking on the right side because I was becoming concerned with my 2023 model that has started to tick loudly especially at a cold startup. I’m sure you have previously done a video on this issue so I will be looking through old videos.
No your item to worry about is the alternator drive gear Took engine removal and 40 hours of labor to repair it on my 2012 Thankfully extended warranty covered it
Thanks CM good video......I have previously seen the recall notice on social media......... of course we all know social media has no misinformation 😂 .............loving my 2024 DCT
I received two notices to go in for the recall on the fuel pump and haven't got to it yet. Riding season in Massachusetts is almost over for this year. I'll wait for this recall and get them both done at the same time in early Spring. 2012 Goldwing DCT.
Hey Cruiseman! Just love all your videos. I watched the video from Max at Traxxion regarding this recall. He is reporting that the issue with this bolt is ONLY happening on the Manual Trans motorcycles. He did go on to say that it can and could impact the DCTs, its just that all he has heard about at this time is the manual trans bikes. Hope this helps.
Regarding the fuel pump issue. A local independent shop owner who previously worked for a multi-line dealer for 30 years (Honda, Yamaha, Harley) had his AND his wife's Wings quit running due to the fuel pumps going bad. Luckly there weren't far from home but needed a trailer ride home. Obviously he did the repairs himself.
Concerning the “ticking” of the engine….my Goldwing (2018 Tour manual transmission. 12,000 miles) is NOT my daily rider so it sits for weeks and weeks at a time. I keep it on the center stand and I’ve never had the ticking from my engine.
Well - when mine goes in for this bolt replacement - I'll be asking them to replace the air filter at the same time ! So Mother Honda will be paying the labour for that !
Will not affect labor on air filter replacement. You get after the bolt from the bottom and left side of bike. Air filter replacement is both sides (fairings) and top of bike (shelter).
I just took a 2700mi trip on mine a few weeks ago and still would have gone on the same trip even if I'd have gotten this notice prior. Heck, I still haven't completed the fuel pump recall on mine and I've got 27k miles on the bike. I'll bring it in around 30k and have them see if my fuel pump is affected and if it needs this completed too once I receive the notification. I figured it'd be a good time for them to do the air filter then too. I am a little frustrated that now there's 2 potential recalls on my bike, but I will say, Honda has always been great about addressing issues with their 4-wheeled and 2-wheeled vehicles. Many manufacturers seem to try and sweep things under the rug until they're pervasive enough to ignore anymore.
Notice sent out to dealers for stop sale 24 October. Service bulletin to be sent to dealers in November and recall being sent out to owners in Jan. Campaign Description QA 18-21 GL1800 Primary Bolt MFG Campaign ID: KQ9 Recall date: TBD This from Honda Powersports Customer Rep.
Cruiseman, get your facts straight! The engine does not have to be removed or any major disassembly. The fuel tank needs to be removed and the ISG, then a rear engine cover removed to gain access to the bolt. Other than being a bit time consuming it is a relatively simple repair. If the dealer has the bolt on hand it is easily a one day repair. Maybe four hours.
I dont believe the engine has to be removed..a member on the GL1800 riders forum had his bolt replaced for piece of mind... the fuel tank was removed...the IGS was removed...the engine cover was removed....looking at the pictures the bolt looks easy to get at
Respect for what makes you comfortable, no judgment... But I've never viewed occasional recalls as a big deal. They find an issue, it gets fixed at no cost to the owner. So just curious how that felt concerning enough to you to actually sell your bike over it? Especially since it's fairly rare. Did you know that yours was affected? Just curious how it played out and your thought process. Did you go with another bike? Thanks.
I am not even worry about it. 22K on a 2020 DCT. Sweet dream bike, so far. I am simply going to ride and ride hard, at times and moving on. By the time I will get a letter and by the time my dealer will think to start to replace these bolts, it will take many....many months to even reach the dealer to do mine. Enjoy the sweet miles.
I'm not sure what all the worry is over. They remove the ISG and the clutch cover, unscrew a bolt, and put a new one in its place. It's not like they are tearing the whole engine apart, they are just removing one cover. My bigger concern is that they should also be replacing the ISG bolt while they have the ISG removed.
I do have a question for others here. I purchased a 2023 DCT this year. (Goldwing #6) When I start the engine I have a weird whirring/whistling noise that is very noticeable until the engine warms up completely. Almost like a high-pitched exhaust leak. I don't have a clue. Nor does my local dealership. Any ideas? It's a bit irritating but I will continue to ride unless I am told otherwise by big Honda. Thanks Thanks CM!
I have a 2020 GW bagger, bought as second owner in 2023, the bike had a recall for engine stall and ECU update, fuel pump recall last september. despite of fuel pump never been an issue, engine stall happen quite few times. for sure I will udergoing this new recall... what i have expirenced 3 or 4 times since now is the infotainment display reboot. While riding display went blank and reboot as for switching on, with the warning msg displayed to click OK, no engine problem such as power lost, misfire, MIL switching on. first time happen i thought it was for the Android Auto wireless connection, so I switch to cable connection but it happen again and it happens also without any phone connected to the bike it seems there is a power black out for one second, and reboot.
My 2018 MT bike had this bolt failure in April 2024. My dealer, Beaverton Motorcycles in Oregon finally got the bike repaired in July 2024. It was repaired under my extended warranty BUT, the dealer rep at first reported that Honda was NOT going to cover this repair given 115k miles on my odometer. However, I complained that this should not affect the warranty as there were no mileage limitations stated in the warranty. My dealer was finally able to gain approval for the repair. My dealer claimed that my UBS bolt was "checked" and is "in fine condition" and is now properly torqued and is fine. The bike runs great now!
Humm, I got my 2018 Wing fuel pump replace a couple months ago under the recall. I'm in W Pa. I'm diappointed in Honda these days, both my Ridgeline (3 recalls, one for a fuel pump too) and now the Wing. Honda is following Harley in reliability lately......maybe time to go back to Yamaha as my daily rider.
What happens when you didn't buy a new Honda Goldwing and purchased a used Goldwing from another person and not a dealer. Can't I take my Honda Goldwing that is in question to a dealer for a recall repair?
Honda still has your VIN and every state makes your address information available in case of a recall. As long as you have transferred the title in your state, you will get notified.
But I think my would have failed before the 97000 miles I put that mileage on mine with in two years, if it was going to fail it would have did so , and who ever has the bike now I would not do anything.
Well, since I just turned 123K miles on my 2019 DCT, I'm guessing either my bike is not in danger, or else it will fail tomorrow afternoon... I will, however, call my dealer tomorrow.
My 2018 manual broke the bolt back in June honmhonda dealers that I spoke about want to charge me $5000 dollar labor to open the engine on my bike and let me know how many parts I have to replace at my own pucked$$ now finally honda will be responsible for this damage . I drop the bike at dealer October 31 and do far they didn't open the engine still waiting for answer if they gonna fix my bike unther this recall.
It's a easy repair replacing the bolt. The bolt shears the head off and drops it in the engine it's a major failure. But replacing the the bolt is easy. Pull the Evap Canister, Starter/Gen, Clutch Cover. Pull bolt replace with new bolt, replace clutch cover gasket. Bolt can fail on 6MT or DCT.
With or without fuel tank removal ?
@@hanspraet332 You don't have to remove the fuel tank. There is a well known Goldwing mechanic that thinks the tank has to be removed. Look at your bike. Removing the fuel tank is a waste of time. Pull the evap can and coolant overflow and there is plenty of room to work it. I have the parts to do mine and was going to replace it over the winter myself. But now that there is going to be a recall and the fuel pump recall needs to be done. I will just let a dealer screw with this plastic fantastic. I have a Yamaha MT-09 to ride while the Wing is in the shop.
I am a motorcycle mechanic and had this happen to my bike. I fixed it myself and would be happy to share information if you’re interested.
Would love to know the process.
Hi Chris-Really appreciate you getting this information presented to the Gold Wing community. In our local ride group here in Wisconsin, there are 5 other Gold Wing riders...4 of which have 2018 models. I did pass along your PSA video to them today and they were very appreciative. It will be interesting to find out more as information becomes available. Thanks again.
Thanks for sharing!
Good information, let’s all keep the point, don’t panic! thanks for the info
Thanks for the update had mine in and fixed ubs and alternator and fuel pump thanks for sharing
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Thank you for the update..... plz keep us updated if you hear anything else.
Thanks for the information Cruiseman. Have a great week.
You too!
Replace that bolt and I might just go ahead and by a 2018 Pearl Hawkeye Blue! Thanks for the info.
I’m glad you mentioned the ticking on the right side because I was becoming concerned with my 2023 model that has started to tick loudly especially at a cold startup. I’m sure you have previously done a video on this issue so I will be looking through old videos.
I hope when they say the engine might stall really doesnt mean the engine might lock up because those are two seriously different things.
Thank you for the info . It doesn't affect my 2015 GW or my 2024 dct, but i know people who may have an affected bike. Great info
No your item to worry about is the alternator drive gear
Took engine removal and 40 hours of labor to repair it on my 2012
Thankfully extended warranty covered it
There’s another commenter saying 6mt & dct. So might be lucky might not on the 24
Thanks CM good video......I have previously seen the recall notice on social media......... of course we all know social media has no
misinformation 😂 .............loving my 2024 DCT
I received two notices to go in for the recall on the fuel pump and haven't got to it yet. Riding season in Massachusetts is almost over for this year. I'll wait for this recall and get them both done at the same time in early Spring. 2012 Goldwing DCT.
Thank you for putting out this info.
Hey Cruiseman! Just love all your videos.
I watched the video from Max at Traxxion regarding this recall. He is reporting that the issue with this bolt is ONLY happening on the Manual Trans motorcycles. He did go on to say that it can and could impact the DCTs, its just that all he has heard about at this time is the manual trans bikes. Hope this helps.
Regarding the fuel pump issue. A local independent shop owner who previously worked for a multi-line dealer for 30 years (Honda, Yamaha, Harley) had his AND his wife's Wings quit running due to the fuel pumps going bad. Luckly there weren't far from home but needed a trailer ride home. Obviously he did the repairs himself.
Concerning the “ticking” of the engine….my Goldwing (2018 Tour manual transmission. 12,000 miles) is NOT my daily rider so it sits for weeks and weeks at a time. I keep it on the center stand and I’ve never had the ticking from my engine.
I'll only accept advise from Capt. Cruise when he's sitting on his pearl white Throne !!!
Careful, "pearl white throne" could have multiple meanings!
Scott from Goldwing Docs also confirmed this. You all have to wait for the letter from Honda and send your bikes in for the update.
Good post-great info. Thanks brother!
Well - when mine goes in for this bolt replacement - I'll be asking them to replace the air filter at the same time ! So Mother Honda will be paying the labour for that !
Will not affect labor on air filter replacement. You get after the bolt from the bottom and left side of bike. Air filter replacement is both sides (fairings) and top of bike (shelter).
@@wingingit9493 :( - well two recalls in two years - I think they should...
@@steveharleyfan No freebies as Honda heads to the cellar with Harley... :)
Wrong area this is under the seat area
I just took a 2700mi trip on mine a few weeks ago and still would have gone on the same trip even if I'd have gotten this notice prior. Heck, I still haven't completed the fuel pump recall on mine and I've got 27k miles on the bike. I'll bring it in around 30k and have them see if my fuel pump is affected and if it needs this completed too once I receive the notification. I figured it'd be a good time for them to do the air filter then too. I am a little frustrated that now there's 2 potential recalls on my bike, but I will say, Honda has always been great about addressing issues with their 4-wheeled and 2-wheeled vehicles. Many manufacturers seem to try and sweep things under the rug until they're pervasive enough to ignore anymore.
Thanks Cruiseman!!!
Notice sent out to dealers for stop sale 24 October. Service bulletin to be sent to dealers in November and recall being sent out to owners in Jan. Campaign Description QA 18-21 GL1800 Primary Bolt MFG Campaign ID: KQ9 Recall date: TBD This from Honda Powersports Customer Rep.
@@frankwhiteiii613 Thanks for the info!
Cruiseman, get your facts straight! The engine does not have to be removed or any major disassembly. The fuel tank needs to be removed and the ISG, then a rear engine cover removed to gain access to the bolt. Other than being a bit time consuming it is a relatively simple repair.
If the dealer has the bolt on hand it is easily a one day repair. Maybe four hours.
Thanks for the information Cruiseman.
I dont believe the engine has to be removed..a member on the GL1800 riders forum had his bolt replaced for piece of mind... the fuel tank was removed...the IGS was removed...the engine cover was removed....looking at the pictures the bolt looks easy to get at
Good to know
I have a manual, and Honda’s website claims by 2021 is affected by this recall.
It likely refers to Identification number...
I plan on getting a Wing n 2025 so a Big Thanks for that very important info👍👍
Interesting, i work at a Honda dealership and i am looking for this right now and their Honda EBiz site has nothing about it listed? Maybe USA only?
I sold my 2018 because of this concern. Also the fuel pump issue. Took a big hit on value.
Respect for what makes you comfortable, no judgment... But I've never viewed occasional recalls as a big deal. They find an issue, it gets fixed at no cost to the owner. So just curious how that felt concerning enough to you to actually sell your bike over it? Especially since it's fairly rare. Did you know that yours was affected? Just curious how it played out and your thought process. Did you go with another bike? Thanks.
I am not even worry about it. 22K on a 2020 DCT. Sweet dream bike, so far. I am simply going to ride and ride hard, at times and moving on. By the time I will get a letter and by the time my dealer will think to start to replace these bolts, it will take many....many months to even reach the dealer to do mine. Enjoy the sweet miles.
I'm not sure what all the worry is over. They remove the ISG and the clutch cover, unscrew a bolt, and put a new one in its place. It's not like they are tearing the whole engine apart, they are just removing one cover.
My bigger concern is that they should also be replacing the ISG bolt while they have the ISG removed.
I.N. could be internal notice.
Honda should recall the glossy black plastic that seems to catch scratches simply from the wind blowing over it
I do have a question for others here.
I purchased a 2023 DCT this year. (Goldwing #6)
When I start the engine I have a weird whirring/whistling noise that is very noticeable until the engine warms up completely. Almost like a high-pitched exhaust leak. I don't have a clue. Nor does my local dealership. Any ideas?
It's a bit irritating but I will continue to ride unless I am told otherwise by big Honda.
Thanks
Thanks CM!
I have a 2020 GW bagger, bought as second owner in 2023, the bike had a recall for engine stall and ECU update, fuel pump recall last september.
despite of fuel pump never been an issue, engine stall happen quite few times.
for sure I will udergoing this new recall...
what i have expirenced 3 or 4 times since now is the infotainment display reboot. While riding display went blank and reboot as for switching on, with the warning msg displayed to click OK, no engine problem such as power lost, misfire, MIL switching on.
first time happen i thought it was for the Android Auto wireless connection, so I switch to cable connection but it happen again and it happens also without any phone connected to the bike
it seems there is a power black out for one second, and reboot.
No engine removal
Owned a 2021 Goldwing bd..
Wonder if a trade in, is a realistic option?...d
My 2018 MT bike had this bolt failure in April 2024. My dealer, Beaverton Motorcycles in Oregon finally got the bike repaired in July 2024. It was repaired under my extended warranty BUT, the dealer rep at first reported that Honda was NOT going to cover this repair given 115k miles on my odometer. However, I complained that this should not affect the warranty as there were no mileage limitations stated in the warranty. My dealer was finally able to gain approval for the repair. My dealer claimed that my UBS bolt was "checked" and is "in fine condition" and is now properly torqued and is fine. The bike runs great now!
Honda still can not get parts out to fix the fuel pump issue.
Humm, I got my 2018 Wing fuel pump replace a couple months ago under the recall. I'm in W Pa. I'm diappointed in Honda these days, both my Ridgeline (3 recalls, one for a fuel pump too) and now the Wing. Honda is following Harley in reliability lately......maybe time to go back to Yamaha as my daily rider.
A locked rear wheel at speed can be deadly. At least one owner claims that his rear wheel locked and pulling the clutch does not help.
Is it all 18 to 21 or will it go by vin???
What happens when you didn't buy a new Honda Goldwing and purchased a used Goldwing from another person and not a dealer. Can't I take my Honda Goldwing that is in question to a dealer for a recall repair?
Honda still has your VIN and every state makes your address information available in case of a recall. As long as you have transferred the title in your state, you will get notified.
What about 2022 aren’t they made the same way?
I put 97000 miles on mine, before I sold it, if I still had the bike I would trade it for a new one
But I think my would have failed before the 97000 miles I put that mileage on mine with in two years, if it was going to fail it would have did so , and who ever has the bike now I would not do anything.
I ran the hell out of that bike and it ran like new when I sold it, but mine was a 2018.
Well, since I just turned 123K miles on my 2019 DCT, I'm guessing either my bike is not in danger, or else it will fail tomorrow afternoon...
I will, however, call my dealer tomorrow.
I have purchased your maintenance videos this morning 10/31 must have done something wrong. Can’t find them. Need help.
@@Lee-sk2ov what is your email address?
My 2018 manual broke the bolt back in June honmhonda dealers that I spoke about want to charge me $5000 dollar labor to open the engine on my bike and let me know how many parts I have to replace at my own pucked$$ now finally honda will be responsible for this damage . I drop the bike at dealer October 31 and do far they didn't open the engine still waiting for answer if they gonna fix my bike unther this recall.
May I ask where are you located at
@@MarkVanZile Texas
@cruisemansgarage what does your booking look like Are you full
Just stick to what you know, vid will be much shorter and enjoyable cheers
he thinks he knows a lot more than he does.
Stop sale is the same as a stop ride. Do not mislead anyone.
I wouldnt do this So called repair Honda is buying mine back period
Let us know how that goes
Good luck with that
Uh... It's replacing one bolt. Not re-boring the entire engine. Good luck with your buy back.
Thanks for the information Cruiseman!