Before you comment please read this. Yes I know the audio is distorting. I didn't realize it until after I had swapped the speakers and was editing the video. This was 4 years ago, I don't have the amp anynore, and I never dreamed the video would be viewed almost 40k times. Just take what you can from it, I'm sorry the audio isn't great. Thank you for watching! Check my orher stuff out, there's no more clipping in those lol.
@guitarfreak585 not a problem im glad i did..i got the info i was lookin for on the speaker.. and also by listening to your playing i learned sumthing that was way more valuable to me. So it was well worth watching.. thanx again
Holy fart nutz batman!!! The way that last notes ring out at 3:01-3:02 absolutely beautiful. Im intrigued. Nice playing by the way. Deluxe reverb is the greatest amp to me at least
Swamp Thang all the way. When I play my 2 Deluxe clones live I use 1 212 cab with 2 swamp thangs and 1 with 2 Eminence EM12 200 watt speakers. I will put this up against any Marshall 100 watt head cab arrangement. I built the 2 amps P2P, 24 watt, Cathode biased and Dual Volume Tone knobs. I will try these cabs with my DRRI this weekend. I dont like the speakers to breakup, I like the power tubes to do most if the breakup and be able to drive the preamp enough also. I use 12AY7 in V1 and 5751 V2 on my clones. Really, if you look at Vintage Fender P2P amps most of them used 12AY7s V1. Its a sweet tuve with the right clean speakers.
I enjoy experimenting as much as anyone,maybe more.I have 8 cabs, 4 are Mesa 2x12 which I mix n match speakers. Tried most all of them. Yes of course you can hear and feel the difference but tbo with a eq and a od pedal you can makes them all sound alike. On my Fender Deluxe I run through a 2x12 with celestion golds. No breakup at all unless really cranked. Take your pick of any of the 4 million od pedals and you can make it sound like you want. With the combos, a few od pedals and a mxr 10 band eq and I can replicate 99.9% of any speaker combo you come up with.Bass/treble/mids/volume/gain/breakup for $100.
I just can't dig on the "greasy" (or "smoky") tone of the CRex. It kind of takes away some of that BF sparkle and punch. Swamp Thang all the way for me.
TheParanoidAndroid79 absolutely. Thats exactly how I felt. It might be fine for certain genres, or even with certain guitars. But for me, playing 15 genres in a band, it just wasn't gonna cut it. The swamp thang sounds great.
I have the '68 custom dr w/ a cannabis rex. Amp came w/ V type 70w celestion. You really got me interested in trying the swamp thang now. Good demonstration, I never even considered a swamp thang till now.
I found a nice list of speaker choices on google in a fender forum. Amp guru maybe? I've been an Eminence fan since I used to run a 4x12 Krankenstein with Texas Heats in it. Amazing cab. Also, the EVM speaker I was really interested in was 300 bucks. The swamp thang was highly recommended as an inexpensive alternative.
I'm deciding between a Swamp Thang and a Texas Heat to put into a Blues Jr. I play mainly a Fender Telecaster in a classic rock cover band (ranging from the poppy brightness of the Beatles and Tom Petty to the harder rock of Led Zeppelin and AC/DC). I'd like to fill out the low and low-mids, maintain the sparkling highs, while also having enough high-mids to cut through the band mix. I was wondering your opinion as to which speaker is better suited to that, as you obviously have a Swamp Thang and I see in your comments that you've used Texas Heats previously too. Thanks!
I noticed that the Celestion is bright. its a bit like a bright cannabis rex when broken in. Fender amps tend to be bright sounding, '68 deluxe. I like the tight low end and clarity of the swamp thang, but with that high end ill pass. Hell try a celestion if you play classic rock
Would like to see 2 Cannabis rex 16 in parallel vs 1 8ohm swamp thing. To bring the wattage up closer together, and maybe eliminate the farty sound? I love my Cannabis rex speakers, but I run 2 of them at once.
Seems like the Rex is brighter than the Swamp Thang. Seeing as the former is rated at 50 watts and the latter at 150 watts, it's not surprising that the Rex breaks up more readily.
I also question whether you can compare break up on two speakers with very different wattages. I think “best speaker” depends a lot on what a person likes in guitar tone. I am moving towards liking a less bright sound. I also wonder if Fenders are better for clean and semi clean, and other amps better for more distorted tones. YMMV...
I'm deciding between a Swamp Thang and a Texas Heat to put into a Blues Jr. I play mainly a Fender Telecaster in a classic rock cover band (ranging from the poppy brightness of the Beatles and Tom Petty to the harder rock of Led Zeppelin and AC/DC). I'd like to fill out the low and low-mids, maintain the sparkling highs, while also having enough high-mids to cut through the band mix. I was wondering your opinion as to which speaker is better suited to that, as you obviously have a Swamp Thang and I see in your comments that you've used Texas Heats previously too. Thanks!
What did you decide and how did it work out? I’m in exactly the same situation. I don’t like the sound I’m getting from my Blues Jr so I’m considering ordering a new speaker from Sweetwater. Right now I’m considering either the Eminence Swamp Thang or their Texas Heat speaker. Anyone have experience with either of these or another recommendation? The stock speaker is too shrill for my taste, especially when the volume is cranked. I like a chunkier low end…strong bass response, but not muddy or fuzzy. I want something that sounds bright but not shrill on the Beatles’ All My Loving, but gives me a strong bottom (bassy but not muddy) on Roadhouse Blues.
@@TheSpydersBand - I tried the Texas Heat, but it took out too much of the “sparkle” from my tele’s bridge pickup. I ended up with an Eminence GA-SC64. Been in my amp for over four years now, played many gigs with it, and I don’t plan to swap it out anytime soon.
@@thespydersband5703 Yeah, I play my tele about 75% of the time and my ES-335 the other 25%, so the interaction to single coils was more important to me. However, with the humbuckers through the GA-SC64 too, I feel like I get plenty of bass response without it being muddy. My Blues Jr also has the bass capacitor changed to 0.10uF.
Nice Trower licks. About to put the C-Rex in my Custom Deluxe to help rid the world of another ice pick. Curious how BayouGTR likes the C-Rex in the 68 Custom Deluxe Reverb.
I just didn't like it once the volume started going up. It just felt flubby. You may like it fine, but it just wasn't for me. I like punch and snap and it just didn't feel like it had much of that.
+Brian Rowland I know several people that love them in the blues junior. I'm not sure what the actual volume difference is in one of those and my deluxe though. I know its only 7 watts difference, but this amp is loud as hell.
To the OP: this exact sentiment I share with you. I'm prone to ice-pick sounds w my guitar (that I will never get rid of), and the Rex is supposed to be good for taming it. I wouldn't trust the Swamp Thang as much...
Wow. Those humbuckers sound superb with your playing. I thought you were playing a normal style Stratocaster. You've got that bluesy Hendrix sound. I'm looking to get a set of Stratocaster pickups and dashed to the description to see what pickups you had. Haha. Super cool.
Thank you sir! Yeah that Jazz is insane. The biggest fattest muscled up single coil sounding humbucker ever. And the custom has a lot of honk to it as well just like a big strat pickup. The custom is mega versatile. It'll do everything.
thanks for the effort... if you have the materials.... would be great to hear the comparison again, but with proper recording set up and db meter. You likely have a great insight being there, but difficult to get what you are getting here in UA-cam land. The distortion in the recording is interfering. But based on what you are saying looks like I'll be leaning towards the Swamp.
i'm also considering to move on to the Swamp Thang from the Crex. Do you think they have somewhat overlapping voice between them, cos I heard they sounded pretty similar tone wise, minus the speaker break up on the ST. Just thought I'd get something more open sounding for my Ampeg GVT15 (6V6) combo, or might move on to Eminence. Thanks!
Good exchange . noticeably cleaner,,,there was to much early - deep - break up...... I'm putting a Celestion G12 creamback or green...in the same amp.... nice exercise friend....
Didn't look how old this comment was, but did you try the cream or greenback in your amp? Thoughts? I have a 65 DRRI that I'm researchin speakers for. You guys input would be appreciated!
Benjamin Alvarez the Texas heat is gonna be pretty scooped I believe. I don't know about the Legend, but its a British sort of speaker right? The Swamp Thang is pretty beefy. Of those three it would still be my choice. I don't know why you'd put a British voiced speaker in an American voiced amp, and these Fenders are already so scooped anyway to get that glassy sound.
Benjamin Alvarez that just shows how unfamiliar I am with it lol. If its vintage American tone it may be comparable to the stock Jensen speaker then. Glassy and sparkly. Then it would just depend on what you were playing.
Nice playing and review. I am considering my 1st Fender amp, a Deluxe Reverb Ltd. Ed. with the Jenson P12q $1099 or the Knotty Pine Ltd. Ed. with Celestion Alnico Cream speaker $1499. The Cream is $300 alone and seems to be the new "it" speaker everyone raves about. Have you any demo time with either of these two? Lots of online demo's of the P12q Jenson but only 1 of the other. Thought I would give you a try. Thanks
Mr. mips no sir I sure don't. This amp had the C Rex in it when I bought it instead of the stock Jensen. I may someday try other speakers in this one, but I've been pretty happy with the ST.
The amp is designed to break up at around 5 no matter what speaker you put in it. If you want cleaner you can try lower gain preamp tube in V1 and V2 will give a little more clean head room with the swamp thing 150 watt power rating your not pushing the speaker because of the power handling. By design the preamp section in the amp will start distorting at a certain level of input no matter what ,another way to lower the input signal is to change out lower gain preamp tube or you can try input #2 Depending how loud you need to be, so that being said there several combinations to try to get the most clean headroon out of that amp at a certain volume , if you need real loud and clean get another amp like a twin. There is tonal difference in the speakers but that only part of it depends on what your trying to do. If you want clean at volume on 10 is not going to work on this 22 watt amp .the swamp thing can handle a lot of clean power before it starts to break up . I have every combination of preamp tubes ,bias adjustment, speaker swaps on a fender deluxe and in the end you only gain a little clean headroom and spend a fortune..but if the right combination is right for what you want leave it alone.. I have been playing tube amps for 50 years and soaked a lot on money trying to get that tone ,but gone stock at the lower volumes and settled on jensen for the clean fenderish tones. Want loud and clean get you a twin.. nobody says to have to turn it all the way up but if you need 30 to 40 watts of crystal clean that's the amp to use for loud cleans.
Excellent demo. Many thanks. I'm still torn between the two. Don't like how the C12K breaks up in my DRRI. Btw. I am mainly a Strat/Tele guy, but also a fan of SD Jazz, have it in my C1 Classic. As for the speakers, to my ears, CR comes as more nuanced at lower volumes and seems better for recording. ST is just so big, clear, punchy and has wonderful sustain. Which of the two is more present, responsive and touch sensitive from your experience?
Nemanja Savic the swamp thang was all around better for my tastes. It just had so much punch, and the top was still really crisp. The DRRI just breaks up so early, and so does the Crex. Maybe a 75 or 80 watt speaker would be a good balance if you like that speaker breakup sound. I had someone recommend a Celestion Creamback for that application, but I never tried it myself.
It sounds like the Swamp Thang breaks up at 3 where the Cannabis doesn't. Is that right? Is the ST louder (more efficient) and just overdriving the mic in your phone?
Yes sir it is just over driving the mic. The Swamp Thang speaker itself is so much more efficient than the amp, it actually won't break up at all, even at full tilt. You can get that lovely tube warmth without the speaker farting. I'd love to do a better demo of it someday. I need more equipment though lol.
For putting in a blues junior for a good, louder clean tone would you say the Swamp Thang? I thought the cannabis Rex would be the one I'd need, but it seems to break up much earlier. That fair?
Man I know a guy that loves the crex in his blues junior. I've gigged that amp before too and it was nice. But yes, it does break up a lot earlier. The swamp thang should not break up at all in any small combo. But I'm not sure which would be better in a blues junior.
I'd be curious to know which you end up going with. I have a NOS Blues J with a Jensen C12N in it (which I don't like because it sounds too shallow with little bottom end) so I bought a Swamp Thang but haven't installed it yet. Soon after I also bought a Cannabis Rex to go into an Epi Electar Century RI amp, but it's basket wouldn't fit that amp, so now I have a choice. For my Tweed BJ I'm thinking the CR might be the better choice since the BJ is indeed well voiced for a bluesy tone so the smokier tone of the CR might be a better fit. For a more traditional Black Face Fender tone (versus Tweed tone) I'm thinking the ST might provide the extra versatility with its increased headroom for clean tones. But OTOH, the BJ does need that thump so maybe it does need the extra bass of the ST. I realize most folks would just think I should try both, but I've got more thangs to do than time or energy.
GAS Man - How do you like the Swamp Thang? I have the Blues Jr NOS, and I'm considering that change as well. Hard to decide between Swamp Thang, Wizard, Cannabis Rex, or a G12H30. Only complaint I heard about the ST is that it might be too scooped with bass and treble so high that your stage volume is cranked to compensate for low mids. Thoughts? Thanks!
Ben Lubin yeah some of it is camera distortion. The first clip the speakers are are totally clean, then after that the amp is breaking up. But yeah that real high end distortion is the camera. I never expected to get this many views on it. Now I have the equipment to make a good demo, but I don't have the other speaker anymore lol.
CodyMBB The bass rattled the camera and made for a killer OD nearing fuzz stage which does defeat the purpose, but ends up sounding pretty bad ass. This is how discoveries are made. Testing something, accident occurs, next thing you know Peter Parker is climbing the walls. Just need to figure out the circut, stuff it in a box and sell it. 👍🍺
Before you comment please read this. Yes I know the audio is distorting. I didn't realize it until after I had swapped the speakers and was editing the video. This was 4 years ago, I don't have the amp anynore, and I never dreamed the video would be viewed almost 40k times. Just take what you can from it, I'm sorry the audio isn't great. Thank you for watching! Check my orher stuff out, there's no more clipping in those lol.
Hi bro, swap thamg vs alesaandro GA-SC64 speaker for 69 deluxe reverb , which one would you choose?
@@benalfa6735 I have no idea man. I don't have the amp anymore, and have no experience with the other speaker
Which do you prefer personally?
@@ShaneStoneOfficial I liked the swamp thang better, couldn't stand the c rex.
Your phone has better audio quality than most UA-cam amp reviews. I have to vote Swamp Thang.
bro that black faced Fender Deluxe Reverb is like the holy grail of combo amps , yes it sounds fantastic your playing sounds great through amp also.
Thank you sir! Yeah I really like this amp. Need to retube it soon!
whoo man. those chops and that dam tone. thx for making me want a fender amp now as if my GAS wasnt bad enuff
Swamp thing gets my vote. I’m so excited to get one and put it my blues jr. and sound nothing like this!
Haha. This guy 5 years later just made my fuckin day! Decent stuff my friemd
So did your mum
Dude.. i wonder how good u r now if this is 9 years old.. mad skill.. thanx 4 the video
@@myhauntedlife421 lol. Maybe a bit more practiced but about the same. Thanks for watching man!
@guitarfreak585 not a problem im glad i did..i got the info i was lookin for on the speaker.. and also by listening to your playing i learned sumthing that was way more valuable to me. So it was well worth watching.. thanx again
Holy fart nutz batman!!! The way that last notes ring out at 3:01-3:02 absolutely beautiful. Im intrigued. Nice playing by the way. Deluxe reverb is the greatest amp to me at least
really good comparison dude. sure the auido isn't the greatest but the way you did it was really helpful and informative. Thanks,
Swamp Thang all the way. When I play my 2 Deluxe clones live I use 1 212 cab with 2 swamp thangs and 1 with 2 Eminence EM12 200 watt speakers. I will put this up against any Marshall 100 watt head cab arrangement. I built the 2 amps P2P, 24 watt, Cathode biased and Dual Volume Tone knobs. I will try these cabs with my DRRI this weekend. I dont like the speakers to breakup, I like the power tubes to do most if the breakup and be able to drive the preamp enough also. I use 12AY7 in V1 and 5751 V2 on my clones. Really, if you look at Vintage Fender P2P amps most of them used 12AY7s V1. Its a sweet tuve with the right clean speakers.
I enjoy experimenting as much as anyone,maybe more.I have 8 cabs, 4 are Mesa 2x12 which I mix n match speakers. Tried most all of them. Yes of course you can hear and feel the difference but tbo with a eq and a od pedal you can makes them all sound alike. On my Fender Deluxe I run through a 2x12 with celestion golds. No breakup at all unless really cranked. Take your pick of any of the 4 million od pedals and you can make it sound like you want. With the combos, a few od pedals and a mxr 10 band eq and I can replicate 99.9% of any speaker combo you come up with.Bass/treble/mids/volume/gain/breakup for $100.
just ordered a swamp thang!
thanks for the advice!!
Gotta say I like the sound of that swamp thang.
I just can't dig on the "greasy" (or "smoky") tone of the CRex. It kind of takes away some of that BF sparkle and punch. Swamp Thang all the way for me.
TheParanoidAndroid79 absolutely. Thats exactly how I felt. It might be fine for certain genres, or even with certain guitars. But for me, playing 15 genres in a band, it just wasn't gonna cut it. The swamp thang sounds great.
Sounds great. Damn nice playing even when you were just messing around trying out different sounds.
Sounds great , got a swamp thang myself about to put in the stage right 15 watt tube amp. Nice playing
I have the same amp. I was gonna get the cannabis rex....I need a little less high end. Mine has the 70/80 stock
@@lll8638Cannabis Rex all the way. Only thing more crisp is a creme back
I have the '68 custom dr w/ a cannabis rex. Amp came w/ V type 70w celestion. You really got me interested in trying the swamp thang now. Good demonstration, I never even considered a swamp thang till now.
I found a nice list of speaker choices on google in a fender forum. Amp guru maybe? I've been an Eminence fan since I used to run a 4x12 Krankenstein with Texas Heats in it. Amazing cab.
Also, the EVM speaker I was really interested in was 300 bucks. The swamp thang was highly recommended as an inexpensive alternative.
I'm deciding between a Swamp Thang and a Texas Heat to put into a Blues Jr. I play mainly a Fender Telecaster in a classic rock cover band (ranging from the poppy brightness of the Beatles and Tom Petty to the harder rock of Led Zeppelin and AC/DC).
I'd like to fill out the low and low-mids, maintain the sparkling highs, while also having enough high-mids to cut through the band mix.
I was wondering your opinion as to which speaker is better suited to that, as you obviously have a Swamp Thang and I see in your comments that you've used Texas Heats previously too.
Thanks!
I noticed that the Celestion is bright. its a bit like a bright cannabis rex when broken in. Fender amps tend to be bright sounding, '68 deluxe. I like the tight low end and clarity of the swamp thang, but with that high end ill pass. Hell try a celestion if you play classic rock
I'm considering a G12H30. Not sure if that would be a bit scratchy sounding in a Blues Jr though.
The audio distortion is cool 🔥🔥
"Farty..." I used that term musically for the first time when I heard a Rickenbacker 4001.
nice demo. it helped me decide. thanks
Would like to see 2 Cannabis rex 16 in parallel vs 1 8ohm swamp thing. To bring the wattage up closer together, and maybe eliminate the farty sound? I love my Cannabis rex speakers, but I run 2 of them at once.
Seems like the Rex is brighter than the Swamp Thang. Seeing as the former is rated at 50 watts and the latter at 150 watts, it's not surprising that the Rex breaks up more readily.
I also question whether you can compare break up on two speakers with very different wattages. I think “best speaker” depends a lot on what a person likes in guitar tone. I am moving towards liking a less bright sound. I also wonder if Fenders are better for clean and semi clean, and other amps better for more distorted tones. YMMV...
I also don’t play screaming loud, so volume level is another variable to consider.
This is a great video, although now I may end up buying both those speakers.
I'm deciding between a Swamp Thang and a Texas Heat to put into a Blues Jr. I play mainly a Fender Telecaster in a classic rock cover band (ranging from the poppy brightness of the Beatles and Tom Petty to the harder rock of Led Zeppelin and AC/DC).
I'd like to fill out the low and low-mids, maintain the sparkling highs, while also having enough high-mids to cut through the band mix.
I was wondering your opinion as to which speaker is better suited to that, as you obviously have a Swamp Thang and I see in your comments that you've used Texas Heats previously too.
Thanks!
What did you decide and how did it work out? I’m in exactly the same situation.
I don’t like the sound I’m getting from my Blues Jr so I’m considering ordering a new speaker from Sweetwater.
Right now I’m considering either the Eminence Swamp Thang or their Texas Heat speaker. Anyone have experience with either of these or another recommendation?
The stock speaker is too shrill for my taste, especially when the volume is cranked. I like a chunkier low end…strong bass response, but not muddy or fuzzy.
I want something that sounds bright but not shrill on the Beatles’ All My Loving, but gives me a strong bottom (bassy but not muddy) on Roadhouse Blues.
@@TheSpydersBand - I tried the Texas Heat, but it took out too much of the “sparkle” from my tele’s bridge pickup.
I ended up with an Eminence GA-SC64. Been in my amp for over four years now, played many gigs with it, and I don’t plan to swap it out anytime soon.
@@RhythmMethodBand Thanks. My main guitars have humbuckers. To my ear on UA-cam, the Swamp Thang seems to have the clearer bass response.
@@thespydersband5703 Yeah, I play my tele about 75% of the time and my ES-335 the other 25%, so the interaction to single coils was more important to me. However, with the humbuckers through the GA-SC64 too, I feel like I get plenty of bass response without it being muddy. My Blues Jr also has the bass capacitor changed to 0.10uF.
Playing the ES-335 through it here:
ua-cam.com/video/2YQD-zHftUY/v-deo.html
Nice Trower licks. About to put the C-Rex in my Custom Deluxe to help rid the world of another ice pick. Curious how BayouGTR likes the C-Rex in the 68 Custom Deluxe Reverb.
I just didn't like it once the volume started going up. It just felt flubby. You may like it fine, but it just wasn't for me. I like punch and snap and it just didn't feel like it had much of that.
Hmmm. that worries me. I guess I'll give it a try and see. I have one in a Blues Jr and it really tamed the harsh tone. Thx.
+Brian Rowland I know several people that love them in the blues junior. I'm not sure what the actual volume difference is in one of those and my deluxe though. I know its only 7 watts difference, but this amp is loud as hell.
CodyMBB I have a HW clone with a Rola Celestion Creamback and man it’s loud as hell.
To the OP: this exact sentiment I share with you. I'm prone to ice-pick sounds w my guitar (that I will never get rid of), and the Rex is supposed to be good for taming it. I wouldn't trust the Swamp Thang as much...
Wow. Those humbuckers sound superb with your playing. I thought you were playing a normal style Stratocaster. You've got that bluesy Hendrix sound. I'm looking to get a set of Stratocaster pickups and dashed to the description to see what pickups you had. Haha. Super cool.
Thank you sir! Yeah that Jazz is insane. The biggest fattest muscled up single coil sounding humbucker ever. And the custom has a lot of honk to it as well just like a big strat pickup. The custom is mega versatile. It'll do everything.
can you confirm that the Cannabis one is mellower on the highs than the Swamp? thanks
I think so but this was a long time ago now.
damn, didn't see the date. ok, thanks.
Anyone thoughts on Eminence Red White & Blues compared to these?
It's closer to the Swamp Thang.
thanks for the effort... if you have the materials.... would be great to hear the comparison again, but with proper recording set up and db meter. You likely have a great insight being there, but difficult to get what you are getting here in UA-cam land. The distortion in the recording is interfering. But based on what you are saying looks like I'll be leaning towards the Swamp.
i'm also considering to move on to the Swamp Thang from the Crex. Do you think they have somewhat overlapping voice between them, cos I heard they sounded pretty similar tone wise, minus the speaker break up on the ST. Just thought I'd get something more open sounding for my Ampeg GVT15 (6V6) combo, or might move on to Eminence. Thanks!
HI CodyMBB, Have you got experience with the stock Jensen C12K ceramic? How does that compare to the Swamp Thang to you? Cheers,
AA1969 I do not sir. The CRex is the speaker that was in the amp when I got it.
Good exchange . noticeably cleaner,,,there was to much early - deep - break up...... I'm putting a Celestion G12 creamback or green...in the same amp.... nice exercise friend....
Didn't look how old this comment was, but did you try the cream or greenback in your amp? Thoughts? I have a 65 DRRI that I'm researchin speakers for. You guys input would be appreciated!
im between swap thang and Texas heat ans maybe legend 1218 for sf deluxe Reverb any recomendations ?
Benjamin Alvarez the Texas heat is gonna be pretty scooped I believe. I don't know about the Legend, but its a British sort of speaker right?
The Swamp Thang is pretty beefy. Of those three it would still be my choice. I don't know why you'd put a British voiced speaker in an American voiced amp, and these Fenders are already so scooped anyway to get that glassy sound.
No in the eminence site say the legend is vintage American tone so nothing British is legend 1218 model no legend v12
Benjamin Alvarez that just shows how unfamiliar I am with it lol.
If its vintage American tone it may be comparable to the stock Jensen speaker then. Glassy and sparkly. Then it would just depend on what you were playing.
guitarfreak585 mostly blues and some fusión with reggae
Nice playing and review. I am considering my 1st Fender amp, a Deluxe Reverb Ltd. Ed. with the Jenson P12q $1099 or the Knotty Pine Ltd. Ed. with Celestion Alnico Cream speaker $1499. The Cream is $300 alone and seems to be the new "it" speaker everyone raves about. Have you any demo time with either of these two? Lots of online demo's of the P12q Jenson but only 1 of the other. Thought I would give you a try. Thanks
Mr. mips no sir I sure don't. This amp had the C Rex in it when I bought it instead of the stock Jensen. I may someday try other speakers in this one, but I've been pretty happy with the ST.
How much louder is the swamp thing than a vintage utah.
dirty dirty on that swamp thang
Actually a decent comparison... now go TUNE THAT SHIT SON! lol
The amp is designed to break up at around 5 no matter what speaker you put in it. If you want cleaner you can try lower gain preamp tube in V1 and V2 will give a little more clean head room with the swamp thing 150 watt power rating your not pushing the speaker because of the power handling.
By design the preamp section in the amp will start distorting at a certain level of input no matter what ,another way to lower the input signal is to change out lower gain preamp tube or you can try input #2
Depending how loud you need to be, so that being said there several combinations to try to get the most clean headroon out of that amp at a certain volume , if you need real loud and clean get another amp like a twin.
There is tonal difference in the speakers but that only part of it depends on what your trying to do.
If you want clean at volume on 10 is not going to work on this 22 watt amp .the swamp thing can handle a lot of clean power before it starts to break up .
I have every combination of preamp tubes ,bias adjustment, speaker swaps on a fender deluxe and in the end you only gain a little clean headroom and spend a fortune..but if the right combination is right for what you want leave it alone..
I have been playing tube amps for 50 years and soaked a lot on money trying to get that tone ,but gone stock at the lower volumes and settled on jensen for the clean fenderish
tones.
Want loud and clean get you a twin.. nobody says to have to turn it all the way up but if you need 30 to 40 watts of crystal clean that's the amp to use for loud cleans.
Excellent demo. Many thanks.
I'm still torn between the two. Don't like how the C12K breaks up in my DRRI.
Btw. I am mainly a Strat/Tele guy, but also a fan of SD Jazz, have it in my C1 Classic.
As for the speakers, to my ears, CR comes as more nuanced at lower volumes and seems better for recording. ST is just so big, clear, punchy and has wonderful sustain.
Which of the two is more present, responsive and touch sensitive from your experience?
Nemanja Savic the swamp thang was all around better for my tastes. It just had so much punch, and the top was still really crisp. The DRRI just breaks up so early, and so does the Crex. Maybe a 75 or 80 watt speaker would be a good balance if you like that speaker breakup sound. I had someone recommend a Celestion Creamback for that application, but I never tried it myself.
It sounds like the Swamp Thang breaks up at 3 where the Cannabis doesn't. Is that right? Is the ST louder (more efficient) and just overdriving the mic in your phone?
+Cam Pro Yeah its overdriving thre mic...nice speaker!
Yes sir it is just over driving the mic. The Swamp Thang speaker itself is so much more efficient than the amp, it actually won't break up at all, even at full tilt. You can get that lovely tube warmth without the speaker farting. I'd love to do a better demo of it someday. I need more equipment though lol.
CodyMB
CodyMB
Ok
For putting in a blues junior for a good, louder clean tone would you say the Swamp Thang? I thought the cannabis Rex would be the one I'd need, but it seems to break up much earlier. That fair?
Man I know a guy that loves the crex in his blues junior. I've gigged that amp before too and it was nice. But yes, it does break up a lot earlier. The swamp thang should not break up at all in any small combo. But I'm not sure which would be better in a blues junior.
I'd be curious to know which you end up going with. I have a NOS Blues J with a Jensen C12N in it (which I don't like because it sounds too shallow with little bottom end) so I bought a Swamp Thang but haven't installed it yet. Soon after I also bought a Cannabis Rex to go into an Epi Electar Century RI amp, but it's basket wouldn't fit that amp, so now I have a choice. For my Tweed BJ I'm thinking the CR might be the better choice since the BJ is indeed well voiced for a bluesy tone so the smokier tone of the CR might be a better fit. For a more traditional Black Face Fender tone (versus Tweed tone) I'm thinking the ST might provide the extra versatility with its increased headroom for clean tones. But OTOH, the BJ does need that thump so maybe it does need the extra bass of the ST. I realize most folks would just think I should try both, but I've got more thangs to do than time or energy.
GAS Man - How do you like the Swamp Thang? I have the Blues Jr NOS, and I'm considering that change as well. Hard to decide between Swamp Thang, Wizard, Cannabis Rex, or a G12H30. Only complaint I heard about the ST is that it might be too scooped with bass and treble so high that your stage volume is cranked to compensate for low mids. Thoughts? Thanks!
what song was at 8 when u finger pick? amazing
Which part? At 8 minutes? I don't think I'm playing anything specific at 8 minutes, just messing around.
@@guitarfreak585 yes 8 mn
@@taghazoutoo nothing really, just playing around
You should have put a little reverb on :-)
There is clearly some reverb in this video
there is only only one law of comparison videos: Show what's playing AT ALL TIMES.
Is your camera distortion or the speaker? Pointless demo with such awful sound quality.
Ben Lubin yeah some of it is camera distortion. The first clip the speakers are are totally clean, then after that the amp is breaking up. But yeah that real high end distortion is the camera. I never expected to get this many views on it. Now I have the equipment to make a good demo, but I don't have the other speaker anymore lol.
Nah, I enjoyed it! Kinda like bells through a rat.
disagreed!
Simple recording material but maybe the best HP and fender Amp demo on the tube 👍
CodyMBB
The bass rattled the camera and made for a killer OD nearing fuzz stage which does defeat the purpose, but ends up sounding pretty bad ass.
This is how discoveries are made. Testing something, accident occurs, next thing you know Peter Parker is climbing the walls.
Just need to figure out the circut, stuff it in a box and sell it.
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distortion !!!!
red Jensen 12 stock sounds better :-)
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Too much bass! Treble 4-5, bass 2.....