New Tires D606 + MT21
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- Опубліковано 26 лип 2024
- Short dual sport ride with my new Dunlop D606 rear and Pirelli MT21 front tires.
0:00 Gas Tank
2:49 Tire Change
7:36 Muletown Rd
10:08 Puddle
15:45 Bike 1st Impressions
2024 KTM 500 EXC-F - Авто та транспорт
I have a channel, I'm 59 and took 35 years off from riding, I just started riding my KTM EXC-f 500 in September. You're a more confident riding than I am. Thank you for sharing because of you I will not be buying a tire changer. I subscribed ride safe.
I've watched a number of your videos! You make great content. I've been riding motorcycles since I was 5. I took a 10 year break from my mid 20s to mid 30s. I'm 42 now. With more practice I'm sure I'd get better at changing tires, but when I look at what I make per hour, or could make doing a side hustle, future tires changes probably just aren't worth the time since I'm slow with mechanical stuff. I get the job done but it takes me a long time. My dad is 10x the mechanic I'll ever be. I'm glad I had the experience though, now I know it's money well spent when I have a professional do it.
Bro after a couple tire changes you’ll be a pro 👌 your urethra will thank you 🤣🤣😂😂
I agree with you about it being good in stock form. I have a 2022 500 and there has never been been a moment where I was like "you know, I wish this thing was faster". It'll lift the front wheel in 1st to 3rd gear with just a twist of the throttle and do well over highway speed with plenty of passing power in 5th and 6th. I cant see myself ever messing with it.
Thanks for being honest! I was debating on doing the change myself and you make my decision easy 😅
Good vid
great video as always. I'm green with envy. even more than any of your other machines
Take it for a spin, I'll ride the Grizz!
@@chasingtrail this will make me even greener
1:08 I'm with you on "never changing tires" (at home). There's a big risk of puncturing a tube when doing them at home whether using a stand or just tires irons. The D606 is a very stiff tire too. I have ZERO desire to fight that battle, so I'm OK with paying a shop to change my tires with their fancy machine.
Yep, now that I've learned the hard way, I know that money I pay them to do it is money well spent.
3:20 - HOLY CRAP, that cost is highway robbery. When I have a shop do my tires, I pull the wheel off the bike and take it to them. One place charges $35.00 per tire - it's a small independent accessory / service store. My KTM dealer wants $40.00 per tire, which is up from $35.00 back in 2020.
I talked to my KTM dealer and a small independent all-terrain tire shop. Price was the same at both. For just a regular tire change it's only about $30, but to do heavy duty tubes, rim lock, and balance them the price went way up.
@@chasingtrail HD tubes are a must. They make the task a tad more difficult. Rim locks and balancing go hand-in-hand, so that explains the high price.
I've watched your videos and commented under my other channel which has the same photo icon as my new "dual sport"
channel.
GOOD CHOICE on the D606 / Mt21 combo. I've been running that combo on my DRZ since 2007. It still seems to be the gold standard tire combo in the DRZ crowd for people that mainly ride off pavement but also need a DOT tire. Prior to 2007, my DRZ had MT21 front and rear when I bought it used in 2006. Prior to that I had two DR350SEs. I ran MT21 front and rear on those two bikes dating back to 1996 or so.
After the MT21 rear wore out on my DRZ, I switched to the D606 because I was seeing how they lasted longer and were more durable compared to the MT21 rear when I looked at them on everyone's DRZ in my circle of riding friends. There were about 8 of us with DRZs back in 2006/2007.
I decided to switch to the Tusk DSport rear back in 2020 because it's half the price of the D606. I put the DSport rear and MT21 front on my KTM 450 EXC-F Six Days in 2020. I think the D606 is more durable after seeing minor issues on the DSport after 400 miles of riding around Silverton, Colorado that summer.
I am still running the MT21 front on my DRZ and will be on my second DSport rear this season.
The ONLY reason to switch to a DSport rear is if someone doesn't want to spend $120+ that the D606 costs.
NEVER go to a D606 or DSport front. They will make you kiss the dirt eventually. The MT21 is better than either of those two on the front, for the type of riding you do.
Great to hear, thank you!
Your candid reactions are refreshing. Given how tired you, likely, were by 1 AM, I'll bet that the job wouldn't seem nearly as bad the next time, especially, if you started, say, on a weekend morning. What if you had to repair a tire out on the trail? If you'd done it a few times, I suspect that the experience would be a lot less stressful and tiring.
I got a WR250F for the same reason: a lightweight, dual sport. Your riding (skills) seems just fine - perfectly suitable for enjoying the sights ... and getting home in one piece!
Mine seems treacherous to get off it, too (despite a 35" inseam); so, I was reluctant to add saddlebags to get in the way. Fender and handlebar bags get tools off my back.
I would undoubtedly get better with practice, and I'm considering getting a Rabaconda as it looks to make the whole process much easier. Thank you for your comments.
@@chasingtrail The first time for about ANYTHING is the most arduous. Batting practice lets us walk away from it feeling, "That wasn't as bad a I remembered."
I have the D606 on mine. It is great. Except on sandy asphalt. I found that out today. HA HA HA AHA I had the same issue with the gas cap.
Damn, hope you came out of it ok. That damn gas cap had me stumped for a solid 30 seconds. Embarrassing.
my 2023 husky fe350 came with the d606 tires from fators, they had a recall so that's what they put on. they do great in the dirt but ok on the street.
Right on, we need to go ride again!
How cold were the tires when you fought to put them on? :)
Get the tires warm first. A hot sunny day works best. Otherwise, bring them into the house first for a day and at least overnight so they can be soft and would be much easier to take off and on. The good news is that when you get a flat, even on a cold day, is that the tires get warm, especially if you let them run a bit soft, and so on trail road repairs can be fixed quickly with practice. But cold tires are a nightmare for anyone without hydraulics.
I did leave the tires in the house but that only had them at about 68 degrees. It's been in the 40s here this week. A buddy suggested I put them in my truck with the heater on for 30 minutes, that probably would've helped.
You’re going to have to do a change on the side of a trail sooner or later so it’s a good skill to have. Best to do it with the tools you take with you though. Might have been a 10 hour job lol. I’ve used MT21/D606 forever on my WR. Not sure about my 500 though. I’m still on the stock metzeler 6 days extreme. Maybe motoz enduro IT next. Summer here so I’ll be burning through tyres.
I barely managed the change in my garage with proper tools and a tire changing stand. There's no way I'm doing that on a trail. I carry some huge zip ties that will let limp out when a flat eventually happens. If I traveled overnight or to really remote areas I'd have to prepare for that, but I'm confident my giant zip ties will let me limp out. Too much BS to carry for my day rides. Mine came with TKC 80s stock. They were great on the street but no so good in the dirt.
@@chasingtrail check out the motion pro beadpro lever set. Should be all you need to get the job done on the trail.
@@travishimself1973 I have it! Used it during my tire change, great tool.
Great reviews! I’m getting ready to purchase this bike. How many miles can you get when the light goes off at half tank? How far from then until your walking?
Other than my first tank I never ran it low enough again to test that. I think you can expect 90 - 100 miles per tank in stock form. The bigger issue is the fuel pump location. I really don't care for the new design. It is not intended for dual sport use. Off-road, it's not really a problem, but if you're riding on smoother stuff that last 1/4 or so of the tank becomes useless.
Great video. Can you do one where you compare the Beta 430 to the KTM 500? I would be interested in the similarities, differences, what you like and don’t like about each. Thanks and keep up the good work.
Thanks. I have a backlog of footage to edit already but I can summarize it by saying I think the KTM 500 feels like a better dual sport and the Beta 430 feels like a pure dirt bike with a plate and lights. The Beta is a better value, but resale value on the Betas plummets, at least in my area. KTMs hold their value much better (again, in my area).
I enjoy your honest approach to riding and wrenching. Great for most of us who are not professionals. Still wanting to get a new 500 after selling my 2012 350EXC. Trying to decide between 501FEs or 500EXC but being height challenged I am considering the 501FEs
Don't think you can go wrong with either. I actually prefer the suspension on the Husky with the linkage. I went with KTM because I go through a lot of bikes and they have better resale value in my area.
Me and my son has 2024 500excf. We live in West Virginia. We love the bikes.
@@user-be6qr1ek9b Thank you for the feedback. I got delayed but I finally decided to go with the 501FEs. Been making out a parts list so I can try do a lot of the mods up front and then just ride.
Nice! Yes it is a very cold day. I wss about to go out riding today too, but hell no, too cold! Where were you riding at? That looks like Clear Creek area...
This was on Muletown Rd which runs between Placer and up to Old Shasta.
@@chasingtrail is it okay to ride a quad on the dirt roads there? Looks like a good spot to just cruise around. I didnt know that was there...
@@Rubi-RedRider I don't know for certain, but I would think so, it's a public road. Halfway up the road it forks and you can ride into Whiskeytown as well. Sometimes I do a bigger loop and go into Whiskeytown and there's a mix of paved roads and dirt roads around the lake. I don't think you can take a quad on the paved roads but should be ok on the dirt. Don't quote me on that though. I'm planning to get another quad at some point.
Really enjoyed your video, I laughed my ass off. Can you please tell me what type of GoPro mount you’re using and where it’s mounted, I like the vantage point, it looks really nice. Thanks.
On this helmet (Shoei Hornet X2) I'm using a standard GoPro mount on the chin. There's a website also that sells chin mounts for most helmets, chinmounts.com. On my dirt helmet I use a Proshot chin mount. I have the GoPro in the Media Mod case with a 3.5mm Purple Panda mic attached. Hope this helps!
@@chasingtrailGreat, thanks very much.
With both the 606 and MT 21 are you able to use strong tie wraps in case of a flat I’m not totally sure because the way the lobbies are range are able to strap those tie wraps, tight enough to get you out of trouble. What’s your opinion?
I'm confident it would work to limp my way out of a trail, which is all I'm really concerned about. I mostly just do shorter rides on the weekends. If I were doing multi-day trips or going very remote, I'd probably carry a proper change kit.
I have the same bike ! Looking for new tires
I'd give you more feedback but I've only had one ride on them. Weather and free time haven't afforded me much off-road time lately.
Which tire changer did you say you bought? Did you buy a balancer too or did you just wing it?
Tusk - he mentions it a few times.
Yeah Tusk for both.
You had a crf300l rally, how do you compare it to your ktm in your experience? Thanks!
The CRF300L is an entry level, budget dual sport. The power feels like a scooter. It's a good bike for a beginner, or someone who just wants something basic and reliable that won't break the bank. The KTM is a full blown dirt bike that is street legal. I like the European dual sports for one main reason, and that is weight. The lighter the bike, the better off-road, imo. For my limited skill level, the CRF300L would be enough in all honesty. I got the KTM because I can, and because of the light weight. Picking up the CRF300L Rally even a couple times, wore me out fast. In my experience, you don't typically drop a bike in a convenient location. You drop it on a hill, off-camber, where you don't have a lot of traction for your boots or good leverage to lift it. In those situations, having a light bike is really beneficial, especially if you are riding solo.
@@chasingtrail thanks for your thorough response.
On crf300l did you lack power on pavement or on dirt? Or maybe both?
They say rally is much more comfortable and less viby on pavement, but I guess it only matters if you do a lot of pavement and less focused on dirt riding.
I don’t think I am looking to do much if any technical stuff, but would like to have an easy light bike to take on gravel roads, logging trails and enjoy some pavement as well.
So hard to make a decision without being able to do a test ride!
@@emishas Lack of power on pavement. Dirt I could still climb up steep black diamond trails. A test ride is crucial. You will learn more in a brief test ride than you can from countless hours of videos and reading. I've been through a lot of bikes and know from experience. I will never buy another bike I can't test ride first.
$20 per wheel to mount new tires if you take your wheels off the bike and go to your local shop. $160 is nuts and dealership level pricing if you roll your bike in and sip a latte while they do all the work.
This was my local shop pricing. I called around. Here it's typically about $35/wheel for a tubeless tire. Because this had tubes, rimlocks, and needed balancing, it was considerably more. I will stay pay to have it done next time now that I know it's money well spent, even at $160.
You should have went the tusk dsport rear.. more that half the cost of the d606 and lasts longer.. well that's my experience any way.. I got nearly 1000 miles more out of the tusk and had a little better traction off road..
Thanks for the feedback, might try that next time!
@@chasingtrailI do like the bike...I was looking into upgrading from my wr250r to the 350 or 500 but the price scares me a little..
@@gabrielkopp2036 I owned a WR250R briefly, the 350 or 500 will be a big jump in power. That WRR will probably run forever though with little issue. They still fetch a good price in my area. The KTMs are expensive for sure. I got a helluva deal on mine, but my local dealer is awesome.
@@chasingtrail yea in my area they have the 2023s discounted to around 10k plus fees right now.. but I live in the idaho panhandle.. SNOW!!! no riding this time of year.. up here..besides my wr250r don't owe me anything..maybe someday I'll get a ktm or the husqvarna version.. like the blue and white better than orange lol
what is your plan B if you get a flat tire on the trail?
Large zip ties.
@@chasingtrail The Knobs are situated where you are unable to use a zip tie.