not for 35K markup + taxes it isn't...I got my 2019 Si for 22K OTD and it comes with foglights, heated seats, shift lights, dual zone climate, full digital center cluster, adaptive dampers, etc
@@jayman81424 that's incredibly rare to find one for that price right now...everything is inflated...I am still extremely happy that I got my 10th gen Si for 22K OTD and it has much more features that they took away from the 11th gen....you can't beat that price
@@jayman81424 I got lucky and was able to pick one up for 28k before tax and title which came out to about 32 after tax and title. It's like you said, just gotta find the right dealer. It sucks tho because there were some dealers marking up almost 20k when I was looking for one
Marked up everywhere I’ve gone. Not a budget car when it’s 37k-39k with taxes, fees, markup. Sub 30k out the door, yes great value. Close to 40k due to greedy dealers, not a good value.
One nice thing you showed is something I had wondered about. By using the individual mode, you can get the good throttle response but not have the fake sounds like you get in sport mode. Good to know.
Unfortunately they aren't a good price right now though. Would be GREAT value for MSRP, but the cheapest offer I've found is $5k over, and there are *specific* instances of them going for $20k over with basically just tint added. If they were actually going for MSRP I'd be picking one of these up instead of a GR86, because my GOD these are absolutely brilliant.
I was able to put a deposit down and order my 2022 civic si at MSRP. However I had to visit several different stealerships and had to bargain heavily for it.
You can still find them at MSRP, my dealer sells all new cars at MSRP. Unfortunately for most people it is a long drive to get them at MSRP but I'd say it's worth it
@@UnrelatedNonsense same..10 dealers later i found an actual honda dealer that doesnt add net for demand. I put deposit on a black one which is exact color i wanted and best buy i ever bought 😃
As someone who owns one. 200hp with 190 torque is definitely some power but just go buy the type r is that’s what your wanting but that’s not a daily car. If the type r didn’t exist that no power complaint would make more sense
Honda technician here, i personally think that the upgrades aren't worth it. You can't get a coupe, you lose the fog lights, and in the us you lose the heated seats. Of you have a 10th gen don't trade in of your looking to get into it, it's a great car
You're way too hung up on Honda's stated hp numbers. You plead for another fifteen horsepower, seemingly unaware that it already makes almost twenty-five more than you think it does. Placebo Effect, in reverse. You read that it's underpowered, so that's how you automatically see it. Never mind that the car makes 222 hp on the dyno, which is exactly where you and so many other reviewers are saying it needs to be in order to satisfy you. No idea why Honda is sandbagging here, but they are, so be happy. You got what you wanted. Well, except for the missing equipment form last year's model, or this year's Canadian-spec model. Considering the price hike Honda gave this thing this year, yes, that part truly sucks.
@@ColtenL1129 They get a way better interior for less money. They get heated front and rear seats. Heated steering wheel,full digital gauges,dual zone climate control, and a qi wireless phone charging pad. They also get fog lights on the outside.
@@ThaKenMan not less money, it's only less money on your end because of conversion rates. Canadians pay a little over 33k for it. Salary aren't different between both countries, we inherently "make less" internationally because of the value of the dollar. Only americans get the canadian civic si "cheaper" if you could import cars without any fees across the border. It would probably be similarly priced with all the features in the US, just in USD instead of CAD.
That fake engine noise is sooooooooooo cheesy🥴. That was one of the big things that drew me to a Mazda3 6-speed over some of the other entries in this segment. Sound and power delivery of the Mazda NA 2.5 is muchhhhhh more pleasing to me than any 1.5/1.6T. Revs drop much more naturally, too, with the manual. Admittedly the manual is no Civic Si manual and it doesn’t handle quite like this, but was definitely the right choice for me.
Admittedly true but at least there’s no fake sound piped in through the speakers. And NA makes for a much more pleasing manual experience compared to a 1.5/1.6T
I owned a 2011 mazda 3 2.5 gt, Civic Si 2014 and 2019, and I agree that I miss my 2.4 na engine in the 9th gen si. Even the Mazda 3 with the 2.5 was a really nice drive with a stick.
No it stays in the setting you chose. If you turn it off it will remain off until you go into settings and change it. The Honda sensing also remembers your selection. But traction control and drive mode do reset to default on startup unfortunately
I'm still amazed that only Ford and Honda (although not all) adopted capless fuel ports. Next thing you know, EV adoption becomes mainstream and everyone just leap frogs that innovation.
@@MilesPerHr you'd think especially on gas guzzlers where you're pumping frequently or luxury cars, and imagine pumping and unscrewing a gas cap on an exotic. 😬
Super nice👌🏾 wonder if they’re make a similar car to the Prelude. It would be nice if they keep the sleek look with whatever new design they come up with.
@@TheFK8Life agreed that the 1.5L and 2L turbos are faster. But can’t deny that the naturally aspirated 2.4L’s are fun to rev out, makes good sounds, and the crossover at 5000rpm
@@yenny527 The K24z is dogshit - The K24a is worlds better The k20c1 type R needs cams and rods and revs to 8500 easily - needs port injection to be perfect but has proven to hold over 650whp with a stock head that doesnt flow well up top. With cams and rods they are making over 850whp now Eman is working on a plug and play K20c1 swap for Si owners - His 1.5L can go 10s but will most likely go 9s with his k20c1 swap com The new cars are heavy and need boost to be competitive in the modern market If you want a fast all motor car just build an old 1992 to 2000 civic with a built k24a...pretty cheap these days
@@basslover352 I own it as well as having owned the 2020 Si and it isn't slow by any means.... It's balanced and it isn't a 0-60 car especially because of the gearing.. Anyways, I'm in Canada so we get it completely speced out... So it's an even better bargain.. You can't compare this car to a Gr86.. not at all the same kind of car..
@@gabrieledimatteo4888 I just expect a bit more in that department after so many years. My friends 8th gen si is still relevant. Also I never mentioned gr86 here.
Agree, can't get over the plain looks. No view of this civic looks good. Car is slower than previous gen. Interior isnt a huge upgrade. No adaptive suspension. Whats to like about this newer more expensive version?
I’ve said it a few times now, but if you are in the market for a commuter, and you want to have a ton of fun, the Civic SI is a wonderful option!
not for 35K markup + taxes it isn't...I got my 2019 Si for 22K OTD and it comes with foglights, heated seats, shift lights, dual zone climate, full digital center cluster, adaptive dampers, etc
@@brokentradgedy yeah they have gotten expensive.
@@brokentradgedy Just have to find the right dealer. My local dealer has one listed for 31,500 after tax and title.
@@jayman81424 that's incredibly rare to find one for that price right now...everything is inflated...I am still extremely happy that I got my 10th gen Si for 22K OTD and it has much more features that they took away from the 11th gen....you can't beat that price
@@jayman81424 I got lucky and was able to pick one up for 28k before tax and title which came out to about 32 after tax and title. It's like you said, just gotta find the right dealer. It sucks tho because there were some dealers marking up almost 20k when I was looking for one
This car is the definition of ballin’ on a budget
Marked up everywhere I’ve gone. Not a budget car when it’s 37k-39k with taxes, fees, markup.
Sub 30k out the door, yes great value.
Close to 40k due to greedy dealers, not a good value.
@@closg9309 Exactly. Folks commenting like they window shopping. Just call a dealer you'll see.
@@sagniksingha THEN WAIT.
If I’m overpaying for a car I will get something with more power 230i or 240i
This is not the case in Australia. This exact car was released at over 50kAUD, overly expensive . A reason why it hasn’t sold well at all 😂
One nice thing you showed is something I had wondered about. By using the individual mode, you can get the good throttle response but not have the fake sounds like you get in sport mode. Good to know.
Unfortunately they aren't a good price right now though. Would be GREAT value for MSRP, but the cheapest offer I've found is $5k over, and there are *specific* instances of them going for $20k over with basically just tint added.
If they were actually going for MSRP I'd be picking one of these up instead of a GR86, because my GOD these are absolutely brilliant.
In Canada these are MSRP. Had first dibs on a white one at my dealer but didn't want it as I ordered an orange one.
I was able to put a deposit down and order my 2022 civic si at MSRP. However I had to visit several different stealerships and had to bargain heavily for it.
You can still find them at MSRP, my dealer sells all new cars at MSRP. Unfortunately for most people it is a long drive to get them at MSRP but I'd say it's worth it
got one in the USA for $2k over
@@UnrelatedNonsense same..10 dealers later i found an actual honda dealer that doesnt add net for demand. I put deposit on a black one which is exact color i wanted and best buy i ever bought 😃
Liking the new review style! Both the talking and more aggressive driving
More to come!
This civic looks increadible, doesn't even look like a civic anymore. It's cool
Looks decent and bland, previous gen looked better
@@alexl.102 Nah this looks better in my opinion. It looks more modernized and i like it
@@alexl.102 it’s not bland, it’s just not overly styled like 10th. Bland is a 2010 corolla.
Dowmpipe and e30 tune makes 290whp/340wtq - bolt-on cars go 12.3@113
Acuity makes the pedal spacers for heel toe
Getting rid of catalytic converter is unethical and selfish to say the least, all to gain a few more hp while spewing pollution.
@@joen4088shush
I always kinda skip throughout the video but your commentary is so focused and directed that I was able to stay and listen to the whole thing
That's great feedback, thank you!
Thanks for the super nice review. When they have heated seats and ac vents in the back, I will get this car in black or white. Come on Honda.
Alright thats it. I'm getting this as my first manual car. I have driven manual at my old job and its very engaging.
I just ordered a new one and I’ve never driven manual before, yolo
@@ModestMonkey Its very fun to drive.
@@ModestMonkey You going to ruin your transmission lol.
@@ModestMonkey have you gotten it yet? I'm in the same boat and wondering how you are liking as a first manual car.
same here lol@@ModestMonkey
the camera/gimbal work is so smooth haha
As someone who owns one. 200hp with 190 torque is definitely some power but just go buy the type r is that’s what your wanting but that’s not a daily car. If the type r didn’t exist that no power complaint would make more sense
Honda technician here, i personally think that the upgrades aren't worth it. You can't get a coupe, you lose the fog lights, and in the us you lose the heated seats. Of you have a 10th gen don't trade in of your looking to get into it, it's a great car
Canadian si have all your looking for. Want me ship one over. Even heated steering wheel.
@@noelking1792 still can't get a coupe
I'm still not digging the Electronic hand brake though.
Agreed
The push start I can understand. But the freakin electronic hand brake? That sht is buggin me and I’ve had it for a year n some change now
as someone who drives a evo 8 that turning radius is insane lol
I miss when the si had an exclusive engine for its trim.
Yea, shoulda been a 2L vtec turbo detuned. Get rid of that start/stop and swapped it with an ethenol kit
Agreed. I love my Si, but if it had the 2.0T that my Accord Sport had, id be so much happier.@@DiscipleofChrist101
You're way too hung up on Honda's stated hp numbers. You plead for another fifteen horsepower, seemingly unaware that it already makes almost twenty-five more than you think it does. Placebo Effect, in reverse. You read that it's underpowered, so that's how you automatically see it. Never mind that the car makes 222 hp on the dyno, which is exactly where you and so many other reviewers are saying it needs to be in order to satisfy you. No idea why Honda is sandbagging here, but they are, so be happy. You got what you wanted.
Well, except for the missing equipment form last year's model, or this year's Canadian-spec model. Considering the price hike Honda gave this thing this year, yes, that part truly sucks.
Blah blah blah
This is FAYAH!!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Wish they had made the hatchback si
Frlsss
Attention US buyers: Send a message to Honda by not buying this lesser-version and force them to give us the Canadian-spec.
What’s the Canadian-spec?
@@ColtenL1129 They get a way better interior for less money. They get heated front and rear seats. Heated steering wheel,full digital gauges,dual zone climate control, and a qi wireless phone charging pad. They also get fog lights on the outside.
Too late stop crying
@@ThaKenMan not less money, it's only less money on your end because of conversion rates. Canadians pay a little over 33k for it. Salary aren't different between both countries, we inherently "make less" internationally because of the value of the dollar. Only americans get the canadian civic si "cheaper" if you could import cars without any fees across the border. It would probably be similarly priced with all the features in the US, just in USD instead of CAD.
Love the steering
That fake engine noise is sooooooooooo cheesy🥴. That was one of the big things that drew me to a Mazda3 6-speed over some of the other entries in this segment. Sound and power delivery of the Mazda NA 2.5 is muchhhhhh more pleasing to me than any 1.5/1.6T. Revs drop much more naturally, too, with the manual. Admittedly the manual is no Civic Si manual and it doesn’t handle quite like this, but was definitely the right choice for me.
The 2.5 isn’t really an exciting engine redlines at 6500 RPM despite it being NA same as this car
Admittedly true but at least there’s no fake sound piped in through the speakers. And NA makes for a much more pleasing manual experience compared to a 1.5/1.6T
Chopped
I owned a 2011 mazda 3 2.5 gt, Civic Si 2014 and 2019, and I agree that I miss my 2.4 na engine in the 9th gen si. Even the Mazda 3 with the 2.5 was a really nice drive with a stick.
Good video milesperhr
Great car but disappointing to know the Canadian version has a LOT more equipment for the same $$$.
In regards to the auto rev match . Once you set it to on or off , does it go back that same setting as default when u start the engine again .
Yes!
No it stays in the setting you chose. If you turn it off it will remain off until you go into settings and change it. The Honda sensing also remembers your selection. But traction control and drive mode do reset to default on startup unfortunately
Second guy is right
I'm still amazed that only Ford and Honda (although not all) adopted capless fuel ports. Next thing you know, EV adoption becomes mainstream and everyone just leap frogs that innovation.
I'm with you! I'm always pleasantly surprised when a vehicle has capless fueling, but it should be mainstream among ICE cars.
@@MilesPerHr you'd think especially on gas guzzlers where you're pumping frequently or luxury cars, and imagine pumping and unscrewing a gas cap on an exotic. 😬
I thought they all were these days. I know there's more than just Ford and Honda doing it though.
Super nice👌🏾 wonder if they’re make a similar car to the Prelude. It would be nice if they keep the sleek look with whatever new design they come up with.
I like the design, I could buy it with an other color.
What city is this? by the way i like your videos. Good job.
gd reveiew
Problem solver mode:
K-tuner with free TSP tune.
It's a great car, but NO HEATED SEATS!!!
Yeah, come on for those of us in the northern states. Canada gets it and there are states with the same or colder climate than some cities in Canada
where is this canyon, Miles?? :o
Must be nice not having to deal with snow
Having lived in Boston for 7 years, I can say with certainty it's nice to visit snow, not fight it.
It’s 200 Hp lol what more did you want, crazy thing is my atlas that’s huge does 0-70 in 7.6
Your Atlas would do horrible in turns though.
honda unpowered it so people would mod it, thus voiding warranty and saving honda money.
Too bad the new integra won’t use the current n/a 2.4 ilx engine
That engine is garbage anyway
The Type S Integra will get the 2L Type R motor. The 1.5L is enough to run low 11s on stock block. 10s with the 2L
@@TheFK8Life agreed that the 1.5L and 2L turbos are faster. But can’t deny that the naturally aspirated 2.4L’s are fun to rev out, makes good sounds, and the crossover at 5000rpm
@@yenny527 The K24z is dogshit - The K24a is worlds better
The k20c1 type R needs cams and rods and revs to 8500 easily - needs port injection to be perfect but has proven to hold over 650whp with a stock head that doesnt flow well up top. With cams and rods they are making over 850whp now
Eman is working on a plug and play K20c1 swap for Si owners - His 1.5L can go 10s but will most likely go 9s with his k20c1 swap com
The new cars are heavy and need boost to be competitive in the modern market
If you want a fast all motor car just build an old 1992 to 2000 civic with a built k24a...pretty cheap these days
@@TheFK8Life all true
Savagegees and hondata dynowed the car and its over 222hp.....
Still slow though. 15.1@94 from car and driver is pretty dismal.
@@basslover352 I own it as well as having owned the 2020 Si and it isn't slow by any means.... It's balanced and it isn't a 0-60 car especially because of the gearing..
Anyways, I'm in Canada so we get it completely speced out... So it's an even better bargain..
You can't compare this car to a Gr86.. not at all the same kind of car..
@@gabrieledimatteo4888 I just expect a bit more in that department after so many years. My friends 8th gen si is still relevant. Also I never mentioned gr86 here.
@@basslover352 I agree needs way more power. This competes with the GLI that does much better timing
*Horn* “…Oh that’s unfortunate.”
make a video with c5 aircross
the audio is :(
At 37 g msrp no it doesn’t make any sense
U sound like Jim Carrey 😳
Legend. I'll take it.
Its a 1.5 LITER... SO WHAT IS LOW POWER FOR A 1.5L? 😅🤣
Losing to many features to warrant price hike versus Canadian version …. No point in buying this garbage car … until
The update …
Fugly car love my 2021 type R this new body is a absolute bore. Its a undersized accord with a silly spoiler.
Agree, can't get over the plain looks. No view of this civic looks good. Car is slower than previous gen. Interior isnt a huge upgrade. No adaptive suspension. Whats to like about this newer more expensive version?
@@naticedog Doesn’t look like a gundam rice rocket for one
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the car is not so much impressive haan.
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