Thought i'd throw in a little mythological allegory for Julie Mao in the script I submitted. 'Proserpina' was 'Daughter of Ceres' in Roman Mythology, and later taken into the Underworld. Just so exciting to be able to make these kind of contributions to the canon. :)
Ahhh, the Roman parallel to Persephone, I presume? After all, the parallels between Greek and Roman mythologies are very strong indeed, given their close proximity in the Mediterranean.
Agree, when I raced after the Balkan Wars in 2243, we had that same issue, turn too fast and “SPLAT”!! We solved this by using 12(yes 12) Mercury class corner thrusters that not only allowed for fast tight cornering BUT slowed us down slightly at the apex of the turn, just enough not to slam your skull against the helmet thermal internal cover. Unfortunately these thrusters were outlawed in 2245 when they found out the under 13 Group K racers had been putting them into NäZ scooters and slamming into trees. As you know, the newest of the racing thrusters will self destruct if taken out of the newest galactic racers with out a 247 digit binary code. I miss the good ole days…
When every ship can do 20+ Gs, enough to pancake the human crew quite effectively, being able to do more is sorta irrelevant. Probably one of the few plot holes in the Expanse series.
Really love the scene when the Razorback undocks. It falls behind the yacht because that is still accelerating at ~1G and then catches up and overtakes quickly after starting it's engine. One of my favorite space shots in the first arc of the season.
But Bobbie was not acelerating because she wanted to keep close to the yath until the missiles were in terminal guidance to avoid them and the UNN Battleship to detect them leaving
She was, the Razorback can be seen to accelerate until it's in front of the yacht. Then Bobbi matched speeds with it to make sure the missiles wouldn't go after them once she hit full throttle. What I mean is around 2:45 in the video.
I love the lineage decal showing the Lilienthal glider, the Wright Flyer, Spirit of Saint Lewis, B-52, Space shuttle, Spaceship One, Epstein's ship, and then the Razorback.
As a reader of the books, I was excited to see how would the Razorback translate visually on the TV show. It was much more detailed than I ever imagined, I love the racing car aesthetics seamlessly ported to the futuristic ship, and how about that bird-ship evolution diagram on one of the panels! Awesome work from Spacedock on the video:)
i liked the changes made between the books and show. both are good storys. both are just mind boggling and amazing the characters that were together on the Roci.
@@silentdrew7636 I think it is, because the human body can only take so much before passing out. And fighter pilots train that was all the time. Unless u are considering the magic fake "juice" that they use to sustain the high g forces in the expanse. Otherwise g forces and the same and the human body has tolerances
Interesting to note that Jules Pierre actually cared a lot for his daughter, the fact that he manufactured a yacht to carry her ship, and when we see him being nice to May because she reminds him Julie
@@calgar42k "Trump is a terrible person" isn't much of a political opinion, even conservative politicians like Mitt Romney realize that. Trump being right wing's the least of the problems with him.
I have to say, you deliver. One thing, in particular that Spacedock excels at is making the ships covered appear to be real. I enjoy that part immensely. You gave Julie Mao a nice back story. Very believable. It gives a great foundation for who she was as it relates to how she changed in both the book and show. Well done.
Oh man, I'd love to have a The Expanse episode focusing on "less threatening things" like races or sports in general, just one, a special Christmas one for instance
Yes, unless they're completely rewritten versions of themselves, these holidays must still exist, specially on Earth, not sure on Mars, mostly sure not on the belt
@@Riceball01 My understanding, possibly incorrect, is that it DID start out as what Ø said, but that never took off, and since it was there Daniel Abraham and Ty Franck started writing books about it.
@@Riceball01 It was originally supposed to be an MMORPG, but that got dropped. Then, it was going to be a tabletop RPG, but Ty Franck and Daniel Abraham decided to make a book series out of the notes.
WOW so i just realised it has richard bransons Virgin galactic on the side like the galactic has on its side as a way to show the generations. thats a nice touch.
I was kinda wondering about that silhouette progression. With the Expanse being renewed via Amazon it should be some kind of Blue Origin ship on there, unless Branson contributed a lot to the earlier production.
@@Phrancis5 it makes sense in general as SpaceShipOne was the first commercial craft to carry a man to space. Mao, as the owner of a space mega-corp would definitely like that angle. Plus unless blue origin builds a time machine, that first will always be Branson's
100th like, man you deserve it I've been watching for years. You and Adam Savage are the only two I've ever seen to cover the expanse. you also cover 40k and starwars, two of my other greatest loves, your voice carries this channel and I wish you all the best. Only love for spacedock! also, you cover star gate, an all but dead series now. and while this may not get you new fan, the old and nostalgic (like me) appreciate your attention.
Yo Dawg it's your beratna XIBIT, we put front facing PDCs on your Razorback so you can shoot at things while pulling mad G's in style. We also took out that silly airlock and put in a guided stealth mine launcher. Also, we installed a pharmaceutical grade fruit press so you get the freshest juice in the system. You have officially been pimped
I know it isn't fiction, but could you do a Spacedock on the Saturn V rocket and Eagle lander? It'll be the 50th anniversary of the Moon landing next summer, and it would be a neat way to recognize that "small step"
At this moment You have 0 hands down - and I'm happy for You man :) You have one of the most interesting and professional YT channels I have ever came across.
probably not, since it doesn't have a hyperspace drive. But then if time is no object (since parsec is a measure of distance), then yeah, any ship should be able to assuming they are not destroyed trying.
In legends he made the run in less then 12 parsecs by cutting dangerously close to a black hole , so it was more a matter of pure engine power and ship durability then maneuverability. Ties and other fighters might beat the falcon in their thrust to weight ratio but they are far more fragile.
Mustang Sally? You're telling me he lived from that whacking from Uncle Bobbie from New Jersey, survived over 300 years, lived on Europa, and competed in a literal space race? Fuggetaboutit! LOL
Wow. I just want to learn some trivia about the "the expanse" cosmogony, and this beautiful race ship, a "brat racer" could i say, meanwhile i work on my shop. ...but i have to stop work and keep listening all the Technic details of your breakdown. really a GOOD job doing this video. excellent video. Greetings from Colombia.
I'm starting to get the feeling the Razorback isn't treated with the amount of respect it deserves in the TV show. Nobody's like: *"OMG, the famous fxxking Razorback I can't believe I get to see this thing with my own eyes!"* I do a double take when I see a vintage car from the 70s. I don't even know how I'd react if I saw a one-of-a-kind record-setter vehicle of tomorrow.
Remember that most of the people who have seen it since its pilot are people who were on the fringes of society due to being ice haulers or space cops.
I noticed the 'history of flight' painted onto the side of the Razorback. The X-15 should replace the B-52 (I think thats what that is) since it still holds the speed record for an aircraft that it set back in 1967, and therefore would be in the Razorback's lineage as a high speed craft. SpaceshipTwo is an interesting choice. Hopefully it will actually fly paying customers some day.
Great video but unsure about the orbit setting at 3:50 Titan is much further out than Enceladus, i'm not sure if the curvature of the orbit lines are to represent position in Saturn's orbit
Nod to what Virgin Galactic has on their ships. First one is Icarus (man's first dream of flying), then Wright Flyer (1st powered flight), Spirit of St Louis (first Atlantic crossing), then the 747, Space Shuttle, Virgin's SpaceShipTwo, Epstein's experimental ship and, finally, the Razorback.
What about the Gunstar from the Last Starfighter? It's an extremely unique design, with just a handful deployed against a vastly larger force relying on superior technology and elite crews over numbers.
If I remember from the books, the reason the racing team did so well was because of, wait for it, Protogen which was a generation ahead of everyone else with regards to acceleration drug cocktail. A racing ship is only as good as it's crew and the drugs because the engines had far outstripped the ability of humans to cope.
0:51 "extend the aft reaction control thrusters as far from the centre of mass as possible" Sure, that works... or you could have just mounted them in the nose for the same effect, reducing the ship's total mass.
I love this series! I’m a huge fan! What times are we talking in the 500k circuit? Hours? Minutes? Days? I wish we knew a little more about times, speeds and distances in the Expanse!
Now imagine if it were three times the size, the outer fascia was armored, the negative space that exposes the engine compartments to vacuum protected by recessed armor plating, build it around a single railgun up front and as many point defense systems as possible within those three negative areas. Sounds like it'd make for a pretty solid frigate or corvette.
So, by the time of The Ring incident, the Razerback is in who's possession? Technically the Roci crew can claim it as legal salvage becasue its mothership, the Guanshiyin, was sunk. I mean, in the TV Continuity, that is.
I think, like the books, it's under UN's ownership since it's an asset of Jules-Pierres Mao and technically the assets of the company. maybe we could see it changing hands in the coming season?
bobbie gets as off the books payment for the events of book 2 it should make an appearance when the free navy stuff come up is season 4 or 5 depending on how much time they spend dealing with the colony rush.
Based on these clips it looks like it will be used in the exact same way as it was in the books. Emergency transport for Bobbie and Avasarala. SO right now, the UN should have it parked somewhere I guess.
Yeah Super Awesome how important this becomes in Book.5!! I'm right in the middle of book.5 now, right around that part where the Razorback is super-important! (Don't want to give away any spoilers!!)
Kinda depends on your country, I think. In the u.s. you can buy the season on Amazon, iTunes, and probably Google? And after a time it'll be streaming free with Amazon prime. Netflix has international broadcasts (for now, not sure how Amazon picking up the series will change that) so you might just have to wait
It does seem that racing would very quickly become more of a contest of how resilient the crew were to acceleration more than how fast the ships were. The first country to replace it's air force with remote, VR-controlled drones will have automatic air superiority over any other, simply because those drones will out-turn any human-flown aircraft with ease.
Oh nice, so the thing that Clarissa was taking to get super strong was related to the accelaration "steriods" from the racing? I thought it was from Jules Pierre's research with the Proto-molecule.
rmeddy1 No, probbably not. In the book its said that they are ex-military steroids - mixture of adrenaline and some pixie dust - to make her emotionless killing machine for a short amount of time. After the effect is gone, her body releases counters and she starts crying and has deppresion for some time.
There's a screenshot floating around from the finale where the rocinante's auto-doc analyzes her. They're a series of implants that pump her full of stimulants to the breaking point, which is why she crashes after their use. Very likely related in some way, but that part was never specifically addressed
rmeddy1 I agree with highgrounder. Don't forget about the interrogation drug that was used in the first season by the MCRN interrogator on the Donnager. While they may not normally be available to civilians, extreme and specific performance enhancing drugs seem to already exist.
Maybe it means just shutting down the pellet feed and lasers and dumping the plasma (which served as a nice countermeasure), not jettisoning the whole reactor. If you still have enough juice for the lasers to fire at least a few times, you can restart then.
i'm really not sure at which episode it was, but at one Alex and Bobby are fleeing before an enemy ( i think one of markos crews, not sure) and it doesn't work. alex says, he has one last option. he is doing something at the interface and then you see the razorback slowing down but behind the razorback is a explosion or something else. This is one of the famous cliff hanger and at the next episode the enemy is trying to bord the razorback. (bobby and alex fights and win and fly away...) first i think, that alex pulled out the core, but after seeing this episode and the razorback is still flying, i don't know what he did. maybe someone can explain it to me?
Thrust to Mass ratio, in Space all spaceships have a Mass of 0 because there is no Gravity, it also makes no sense that they have their Propulsion on constantly because there is no resistance that slows the ship down
Wrong. In space the mass dictates the inertia, or the resistance of the craft to change direction and velocity. Also, propulsion offers artificial gravity, so you might want to always keep 1 G of thrust all the time to make the crew comfortable.
dude did you even watch the show? They use thrust to generate artificial gravity while on route to their target destination thanks to their Epstein drive. Thrust gravity is a theoretical concept in the real world. And really no mass? If you meant weightless then you're correct. Mass and weight are different. Weight is the measure of mass under gravity while mass is how much matter an object contains regardless of gravity.
Hmm, why no anti-acceleration baths? it was popular concept in classic sky-fi: pilot is submerged into bath with liquid of the same density as human body and breathes by breathing system entirely. In the most extreme variant lungs of the pilot are filled with the same liquid and it is pumped in and out of lungs by a breathing system (human lungs aren't strong enough to force breathable liquid in and out). Theoretically that should allow pilot to endure 40Gs acceleration for long periods of time; though this was never tried in real life. Not sure about how much Gs we can handle without liquid in lungs (lungs would be filled by breathable gas at high pressure i'm not sure how much human can handle...)
it's a newton physic series... not the classic warp drive/ light speed BS series. thou for high-G maneuver they do have a liquid, called literally "the juice", to prevent High-G blank out and damage to body.
you don't get it: pilot is put into container with liquid. Liquid changes how g-forces are applied to the body, making them being applied universally (you can think of it as instead of extra weight higher pressure is applied), thus dramatically increasing amount of acceleration human body can endure. We have liquid-filled G-suits for fighter pilots in real life that make it possible to endure up to 10-11G. Full bath should be good for up to 20. Liquid breathing up to 40 (theoretically, this was not tried for several reasons). Having liquid inside lungs is important so that body won't cave in on lungs. With liquid in lungs that won't happen.
Yeah. This concept is really cool. Essentially, the passenger (as piloting in the acceleration tank might be impossible) would be suspended in a liquid. You know how you can't really feel your weight when underwater? Well, it's like that in a way. The only issue is getting breathing fluid of similar density to the human body. Perfluorocarbons are too dense, but they do technically work. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_breathing It'll probably be highly complex, but nonetheless doable...
Why no piloting? In modern fighter jets controls react on pressure applied on the stick rather than stick movement. Should be possible to do the same with submerged pilot.
Yeah. But a lot of modern fighter jets use beyond visual range combat. High gee turns don't happen every second. This is altogether different. What happens here is continuous high gee acceleration, while completely submerged in liquid, with a forced breathing apparatus and potentially loads of other equipment. There may be very little room for controls, and even if there was, the computer would be much better at flying that any human. Even now spacecraft are mostly on autopilot. That's not likely to change.
Can you do a break down of "Juice" and other enhancement of the expanse, such as the cognitive drugs used by martian interrogators, and Clarissa Mao's combat glands.
0:25 subtitles: Renowed across the system as the record-setting racing penis Edit: Oh god 1:40 The penis can be operated by a single pilot when necessary, but carries an additional copilot to serve as the ship's navigator and emergency technician.
So essentially, Julie did for pinnace racing what Michael Schumacher did for Formula 1 by shining a light on how the physical fitness of the driver can make a great deal of difference on race day.
Thought i'd throw in a little mythological allegory for Julie Mao in the script I submitted. 'Proserpina' was 'Daughter of Ceres' in Roman Mythology, and later taken into the Underworld. Just so exciting to be able to make these kind of contributions to the canon. :)
Spacedock way to fucking go Dannyboi
Ahhh, the Roman parallel to Persephone, I presume? After all, the parallels between Greek and Roman mythologies are very strong indeed, given their close proximity in the Mediterranean.
It went to hell and back.
Quality symbolism on the writers part
Dude that's awesome.
cool
The hard part about racing in space is not making the ship go fast, it’s making the ship go _just_ slow enough that the pilot survives.
In fact, it's about acceleration, not speed.
Well when you have an Epstein Drive, otherwise “fast” is entirely up to how much delta-v your rocket can hold.
If they let them develop the protomolecule, that might not be a problem anymore. Lol
Agree, when I raced after the Balkan Wars in 2243, we had that same issue, turn too fast and “SPLAT”!! We solved this by using 12(yes 12) Mercury class corner thrusters that not only allowed for fast tight cornering BUT slowed us down slightly at the apex of the turn, just enough not to slam your skull against the helmet thermal internal cover. Unfortunately these thrusters were outlawed in 2245 when they found out the under 13 Group K racers had been putting them into NäZ scooters and slamming into trees. As you know, the newest of the racing thrusters will self destruct if taken out of the newest galactic racers with out a 247 digit binary code. I miss the good ole days…
When every ship can do 20+ Gs, enough to pancake the human crew quite effectively, being able to do more is sorta irrelevant. Probably one of the few plot holes in the Expanse series.
Just a quick reminder: The info revealed in this collaboration is canon only to the Expanse TV Continuity, not the ongoing book series.
Spacedock what you thought of this season finale?
I think the author would approve of these videos.
AvengerMKII * Authors, Expanse is work of two writers, both of them are involved in the TV version too.
Good you mention that. In books Mao's record was beaten after two years. As always great job on your videos.
Tell that to the amateurish wiki editors.
Really love the scene when the Razorback undocks. It falls behind the yacht because that is still accelerating at ~1G and then catches up and overtakes quickly after starting it's engine. One of my favorite space shots in the first arc of the season.
But Bobbie was not acelerating because she wanted to keep close to the yath until the missiles were in terminal guidance to avoid them and the UNN Battleship to detect them leaving
She was, the Razorback can be seen to accelerate until it's in front of the yacht. Then Bobbi matched speeds with it to make sure the missiles wouldn't go after them once she hit full throttle. What I mean is around 2:45 in the video.
oh yeah i know what you mean..
I thought an object in motion remained in motion until acted upon by a opposing force ?
@@JcoleMc It does, but the yacht is accelerating and the Razorback is not. So the speed of the Razorback stayed the same while the yacht's increased.
You can't take the razorback
She is gone and gone and gone.
But they did
*"We are gone and gone and gone and gone!"*
(A little hint, this wasn't a quote by Julie Mao 😜)
Do what you have to
Makara Alex
I love the lineage decal showing the Lilienthal glider, the Wright Flyer, Spirit of Saint Lewis, B-52, Space shuttle, Spaceship One, Epstein's ship, and then the Razorback.
I don t really understand why spaceship one is there but its cool
@@AuxenceF First commercial manned spacecraft. Why wouldn't it be?
The 4th is a 707 or 747, not a b-52!
I’m not very smart, But god, I must have been drunk or tired when I wrote that....
It’s missing heavy falcon/ starship
As a reader of the books, I was excited to see how would the Razorback translate visually on the TV show. It was much more detailed than I ever imagined, I love the racing car aesthetics seamlessly ported to the futuristic ship, and how about that bird-ship evolution diagram on one of the panels! Awesome work from Spacedock on the video:)
I have only one complain about the tv design. How Bobbie would ###### the chair? :-P
i liked the changes made between the books and show. both are good storys. both are just mind boggling and amazing the characters that were together on the Roci.
Racing in the expanse would be hellish. It would basically involve continually pulling extreme g-forces to the limit of survivability.
Thats called a normal day in the life of fighter pilots....
@@bobbobbinson1841 not even close to the same scale.
@@silentdrew7636 I think it is, because the human body can only take so much before passing out. And fighter pilots train that was all the time. Unless u are considering the magic fake "juice" that they use to sustain the high g forces in the expanse. Otherwise g forces and the same and the human body has tolerances
@@silentdrew7636 it absolutely similar! just our pilots don't have the juice
@@dsdy1205 true, but dont they explain that away with "the juice" the juice = modern day pliots pressure suit only way way better...
I never noticed the aircraft lineage design on the side there...thats really cool!
Killer Orca It’s very similar to the one found on the Virgin Galactic spaceplane!
@@s.31.l50 It looks to even have SpacePlaneTwo on the lineage, a truly fantastic easter egg!
Jacob Space ship one*
Would really expect something between the epstein-drive testbed and virgin galactics plane.
@@harlisviikmae6240 Depends on who puts it on there. Maybe they figured it wasnt worth mentioning.
Pinnace.
No Freudian misheards in the audiobooks whatsoever.
Did he say pinnace racing ? That's what I thought he said.
Idk... the subtitles are calling it penis racing lmao
The penis can be operated by only one person 😂 the Europa based penis Mustang Sally 😂
This video is gold
Racing Penis is a different game all together
Interesting to note that Jules Pierre actually cared a lot for his daughter, the fact that he manufactured a yacht to carry her ship, and when we see him being nice to May because she reminds him Julie
Deep down he s a softie that have lost his way !
He liked trees 😢
@@calgar42k no. He's a narcissist who has a favourite daughter, much like Trump.
@@stonem0013 fix your tds im talking the expanse here... I couldnt give a hs about your political opinions...
@@calgar42k "Trump is a terrible person" isn't much of a political opinion, even conservative politicians like Mitt Romney realize that. Trump being right wing's the least of the problems with him.
I have to say, you deliver. One thing, in particular that Spacedock excels at is making the ships covered appear to be real. I enjoy that part immensely. You gave Julie Mao a nice back story. Very believable. It gives a great foundation for who she was as it relates to how she changed in both the book and show. Well done.
Oh man, I'd love to have a The Expanse episode focusing on "less threatening things" like races or sports in general, just one, a special Christmas one for instance
A Rocinante Christmas. Would they have a Christmas three in space?
I'm sure, probably not at the Rocinante, but who knows, there's still religion, probably something close to it
Religions still exists: I mean the Nauvoo/Behemoth was ordered by the Mormon's to be their generation-ship and Anna is a Methodist pastor.
Yes, unless they're completely rewritten versions of themselves, these holidays must still exist, specially on Earth, not sure on Mars, mostly sure not on the belt
" Less threatening "? Only if its coming after you
This makes you realize how well thought out The Expanse is.
That's no surprise considering it started as an MMORPG first and then as a tabletop RPG
@@user-lp7tx1fe6t No, it started out as book. As far as I know, it was never a game of any sort even if it might have been adapted to an RPG now.
@@Riceball01 My understanding, possibly incorrect, is that it DID start out as what Ø
said, but that never took off, and since it was there Daniel Abraham and Ty Franck started writing books about it.
@@Riceball01 It was originally supposed to be an MMORPG, but that got dropped. Then, it was going to be a tabletop RPG, but Ty Franck and Daniel Abraham decided to make a book series out of the notes.
@@davidemarzoli4815 I had no idea. I stand corrected then.
This Expanse series is so cool.
WOW so i just realised it has richard bransons Virgin galactic on the side like the galactic has on its side as a way to show the generations. thats a nice touch.
I was kinda wondering about that silhouette progression. With the Expanse being renewed via Amazon it should be some kind of Blue Origin ship on there, unless Branson contributed a lot to the earlier production.
@@Phrancis5 it makes sense in general as SpaceShipOne was the first commercial craft to carry a man to space. Mao, as the owner of a space mega-corp would definitely like that angle.
Plus unless blue origin builds a time machine, that first will always be Branson's
@@Joesolo13 No. You're thinking of SpaceShip Two. SpaceShip One was funded by Paul G. Allen.
100th like, man you deserve it I've been watching for years. You and Adam Savage are the only two I've ever seen to cover the expanse. you also cover 40k and starwars, two of my other greatest loves, your voice carries this channel and I wish you all the best. Only love for spacedock! also, you cover star gate, an all but dead series now. and while this may not get you new fan, the old and nostalgic (like me) appreciate your attention.
Razorback : look at me, I'm FAST
Protomolecule : hold my beer
Eros: Hey kid, wanna see something cool?
I’d love to see a prequel to the expanse showing Julie mao, Miller, the Canterbury, and the secret construction of the stealth ships
Yo Dawg it's your beratna XIBIT, we put front facing PDCs on your Razorback so you can shoot at things while pulling mad G's in style. We also took out that silly airlock and put in a guided stealth mine launcher. Also, we installed a pharmaceutical grade fruit press so you get the freshest juice in the system. You have officially been pimped
Been binging The Expanse on your recommendation, and am loving it. So, thanks!
I know it isn't fiction, but could you do a Spacedock on the Saturn V rocket and Eagle lander? It'll be the 50th anniversary of the Moon landing next summer, and it would be a neat way to recognize that "small step"
At this moment You have 0 hands down - and I'm happy for You man :) You have one of the most interesting and professional YT channels I have ever came across.
Think it could’ve made the Kessel Run in less than 12 parsecs?
probably not, since it doesn't have a hyperspace drive. But then if time is no object (since parsec is a measure of distance), then yeah, any ship should be able to assuming they are not destroyed trying.
In legends he made the run in less then 12 parsecs by cutting dangerously close to a black hole , so it was more a matter of pure engine power and ship durability then maneuverability. Ties and other fighters might beat the falcon in their thrust to weight ratio but they are far more fragile.
that's in the new canon too. it happens in Solo.
A parsec is a measure of distance
NightRaven 1901 the fact that the Falcon is basically a Ford Transit makes it even more impressive that Han won.
Are we going to be getting a Force Recon video about the Scirocco Class? That's the one I'd most like to see.
I hope that eaglemoss will very soon come out with a subscription for ships from the expanse
Robotech/Macross = awesome! 👍 😎 👍
I also love how this is a legitimate design with real world engineering concepts in mind.
"You can't take the Razorback!"
Mustang Sally? You're telling me he lived from that whacking from Uncle Bobbie from New Jersey, survived over 300 years, lived on Europa, and competed in a literal space race?
Fuggetaboutit!
LOL
loving these videos, hoping to see one on the nathan hale class of ships. always found them to be of interesting design
Wow. I just want to learn some trivia about the "the expanse" cosmogony, and this beautiful race ship, a "brat racer" could i say, meanwhile i work on my shop. ...but i have to stop work and keep listening all the Technic details of your breakdown. really a GOOD job doing this video.
excellent video. Greetings from Colombia.
when will you make a video about the nauvoo
behemoth
I know that I just called the ship by its original name
Medina
median is a level on Ceres station genius
Not in season four, it's what Behemoth becomes. ;)
The series mentions the many members of the Mao family. A spin-off series on them would be interesting. "The Expense."
You are doing the lords work
I'm starting to get the feeling the Razorback isn't treated with the amount of respect it deserves in the TV show.
Nobody's like: *"OMG, the famous fxxking Razorback I can't believe I get to see this thing with my own eyes!"*
I do a double take when I see a vintage car from the 70s. I don't even know how I'd react if I saw a one-of-a-kind record-setter vehicle of tomorrow.
Remember that most of the people who have seen it since its pilot are people who were on the fringes of society due to being ice haulers or space cops.
I really wish they would’ve shown at least one of her races in a flashback or something that would’ve been awesome!
The hull design reminds me of a Tholian Spinner.
Would love to see this bird going against the Swordfish II from Cowboy Bebop .
I noticed the 'history of flight' painted onto the side of the Razorback. The X-15 should replace the B-52 (I think thats what that is) since it still holds the speed record for an aircraft that it set back in 1967, and therefore would be in the Razorback's lineage as a high speed craft. SpaceshipTwo is an interesting choice. Hopefully it will actually fly paying customers some day.
Can you make a video about the ring?
Kind of makes me want a donut
To early for that
1:12 ghe evolution of planes / starship look rlly cool
Awesome, congrats on the sponsorship!
I think 15 of the coolest minutes of TV in decades.
Great video but unsure about the orbit setting at 3:50 Titan is much further out than Enceladus, i'm not sure if the curvature of the orbit lines are to represent position in Saturn's orbit
Man if I’m in the Expanse universe, I’d love to get a ship like this! Just look at it! Sleek, abstract and beautiful
Please do Sins of Solar Empires next! They are very underrated and have seriously cool looking ships!
I love the side decal showing evolution from bird through airplane to spaceships.
Nod to what Virgin Galactic has on their ships. First one is Icarus (man's first dream of flying), then Wright Flyer (1st powered flight), Spirit of St Louis (first Atlantic crossing), then the 747, Space Shuttle, Virgin's SpaceShipTwo, Epstein's experimental ship and, finally, the Razorback.
Where is the Razorback now? Does the Rocenante crew still have it? (salvage rights again)
Hmm that is a good question.
Do you want the book answer?
Why not, sure.
jake kiedaisch Avasarala gave it to Bobbie!
hmm... thats quite fitting.
1:12 On the side of the razorback is a series of pictures of air and spacecraft, including virgin galactic's spaceship 2!
Delicious content. Hopefully, The Expanse will add this series to their blu ray release and pay you a royalty for it :)
Definitely will help pay for the Sojourn series Spacedock is trying to do.
Man, I absolutely adore this new video style.
What an enormous pinnace.
Now I need a space racing game
What about the Gunstar from the Last Starfighter? It's an extremely unique design, with just a handful deployed against a vastly larger force relying on superior technology and elite crews over numbers.
A youtuber by the name Resurrected Starships did a video on it. It's even animated.
What about the Stealth ships? Is there enough information the produce a segment?
How cool would it be to see a miniseries centered around racing in The Expanse, possibly set before the events of the series?
Great video, it is awesome you're working with the team over at The Expanse for this content. Keep it up!
Can't take the Razorback!
yours are the only vids i watch full screen
Holy shit all the in-depth and implied world-building
If I remember from the books, the reason the racing team did so well was because of, wait for it, Protogen which was a generation ahead of everyone else with regards to acceleration drug cocktail. A racing ship is only as good as it's crew and the drugs because the engines had far outstripped the ability of humans to cope.
0:51 "extend the aft reaction control thrusters as far from the centre of mass as possible"
Sure, that works... or you could have just mounted them in the nose for the same effect, reducing the ship's total mass.
I love this series! I’m a huge fan!
What times are we talking in the 500k circuit? Hours? Minutes? Days? I wish we knew a little more about times, speeds and distances in the Expanse!
that rowing clip still cracks me up, like most people at the gym that row wrong lol...
I love your videos, but your Expanse videos are the best.
As beautiful as starfury.
Now imagine if it were three times the size, the outer fascia was armored, the negative space that exposes the engine compartments to vacuum protected by recessed armor plating, build it around a single railgun up front and as many point defense systems as possible within those three negative areas. Sounds like it'd make for a pretty solid frigate or corvette.
If all that info was in the TV show I need to watch it again LOL
Steve Martino it wasn't there. It is info provided by The Expanse team
Actually, it's information that Spacedock submitted and that The Expanse team vetted and approved to be a part of the canon.
The average viewer would never be aware of it then.. I love the show, but that doesn't make much sense to me
It's just more details about things, that wasn't mentioned in the series
REALLY is that true? forgive the scepticism
Very cool episode SpaceDock
So, by the time of The Ring incident, the Razerback is in who's possession? Technically the Roci crew can claim it as legal salvage becasue its mothership, the Guanshiyin, was sunk.
I mean, in the TV Continuity, that is.
I think, like the books, it's under UN's ownership since it's an asset of Jules-Pierres Mao and technically the assets of the company. maybe we could see it changing hands in the coming season?
bobbie gets as off the books payment for the events of book 2 it should make an appearance when the free navy stuff come up is season 4 or 5 depending on how much time they spend dealing with the colony rush.
Based on these clips it looks like it will be used in the exact same way as it was in the books. Emergency transport for Bobbie and Avasarala. SO right now, the UN should have it parked somewhere I guess.
I just thought about this ship on the other day, and wondered when will you make a video about it! :)
I really love how this baby get's to shine in Nemesis Games!
Yeah Super Awesome how important this becomes in Book.5!! I'm right in the middle of book.5 now, right around that part where the Razorback is super-important! (Don't want to give away any spoilers!!)
@@deanlawson6880 "Glorious" doesn't cover half of it!
Oooh nice Music Choice. Well Red Faction is always a Good Choice for background music.
This ship looks fast standing still. Excellent design.
Can i ask.. is the S3 actually out because im seeing clips like this but its not on netflix
Kinda depends on your country, I think. In the u.s. you can buy the season on Amazon, iTunes, and probably Google? And after a time it'll be streaming free with Amazon prime. Netflix has international broadcasts (for now, not sure how Amazon picking up the series will change that) so you might just have to wait
But yes, the season is out. Finale aired on Wednesday
S3 has finished first airing. When it gets to Netflix depends on the international licensing rights. S3 will be released on DVD/Blueray mid July.
If you subscribe to Prime Video and acquire the episodes through alternative means, it qualifies as legitimate salvage.
It does seem that racing would very quickly become more of a contest of how resilient the crew were to acceleration more than how fast the ships were.
The first country to replace it's air force with remote, VR-controlled drones will have automatic air superiority over any other, simply because those drones will out-turn any human-flown aircraft with ease.
Yes the pinnace is always better enjoyed when a friend helps
Where was all this racing stuff mention? I’ve never heard any of it.
Oh nice, so the thing that Clarissa was taking to get super strong was related to the accelaration "steriods" from the racing?
I thought it was from Jules Pierre's research with the Proto-molecule.
rmeddy1 No, probbably not. In the book its said that they are ex-military steroids - mixture of adrenaline and some pixie dust - to make her emotionless killing machine for a short amount of time. After the effect is gone, her body releases counters and she starts crying and has deppresion for some time.
Ah,noted
There's a screenshot floating around from the finale where the rocinante's auto-doc analyzes her. They're a series of implants that pump her full of stimulants to the breaking point, which is why she crashes after their use. Very likely related in some way, but that part was never specifically addressed
rmeddy1 I agree with highgrounder. Don't forget about the interrogation drug that was used in the first season by the MCRN interrogator on the Donnager. While they may not normally be available to civilians, extreme and specific performance enhancing drugs seem to already exist.
When I saw the cockpit of this ship, I really thought" the guys that are behind this show are really driven "
Can anyone answer, how did they *SPOILER* managed to drop the fusion core, and then in the next episode be able to start main drive to get away?
It was clear that Alex was saying "Emergency start-up, go!"
Maybe it means just shutting down the pellet feed and lasers and dumping the plasma (which served as a nice countermeasure), not jettisoning the whole reactor. If you still have enough juice for the lasers to fire at least a few times, you can restart then.
Sounds like the space faring equivalent to the America's Cup, I love it!
got my mom into watching the expanse, the razorback apparently made an impression on her because she thinks its the coolest ship
Why isn't there a Julie Mao TV series yet??
Great video!
I cant wait you to make a video for a Magnetar class cruiser, but again we are years away from that
i'm really not sure at which episode it was, but at one Alex and Bobby are fleeing before an enemy ( i think one of markos crews, not sure) and it doesn't work.
alex says, he has one last option. he is doing something at the interface and then you see the razorback slowing down but behind the razorback is a explosion or something else.
This is one of the famous cliff hanger and at the next episode the enemy is trying to bord the razorback. (bobby and alex fights and win and fly away...)
first i think, that alex pulled out the core, but after seeing this episode and the razorback is still flying, i don't know what he did.
maybe someone can explain it to me?
Wow!! Julie Mao needs no modification, no modification anywhere!
I reconize that soundrack! Red Faction: Guerilla.
Good choice!
YES, I wanted this so badly
I would LOVE if someone made a movie or show about the Wipeout anti-gravity racing universe
Spacedock you are awesome !!!! keep them coming
Thrust to Mass ratio, in Space all spaceships have a Mass of 0 because there is no Gravity, it also makes no sense that they have their Propulsion on constantly because there is no resistance that slows the ship down
Wrong. In space the mass dictates the inertia, or the resistance of the craft to change direction and velocity.
Also, propulsion offers artificial gravity, so you might want to always keep 1 G of thrust all the time to make the crew comfortable.
dude did you even watch the show? They use thrust to generate artificial gravity while on route to their target destination thanks to their Epstein drive. Thrust gravity is a theoretical concept in the real world.
And really no mass? If you meant weightless then you're correct. Mass and weight are different. Weight is the measure of mass under gravity while mass is how much matter an object contains regardless of gravity.
I love the evolution of aircraft is on the ship
Hmm, why no anti-acceleration baths? it was popular concept in classic sky-fi: pilot is submerged into bath with liquid of the same density as human body and breathes by breathing system entirely. In the most extreme variant lungs of the pilot are filled with the same liquid and it is pumped in and out of lungs by a breathing system (human lungs aren't strong enough to force breathable liquid in and out). Theoretically that should allow pilot to endure 40Gs acceleration for long periods of time; though this was never tried in real life. Not sure about how much Gs we can handle without liquid in lungs (lungs would be filled by breathable gas at high pressure i'm not sure how much human can handle...)
it's a newton physic series... not the classic warp drive/ light speed BS series. thou for high-G maneuver they do have a liquid, called literally "the juice", to prevent High-G blank out and damage to body.
you don't get it: pilot is put into container with liquid. Liquid changes how g-forces are applied to the body, making them being applied universally (you can think of it as instead of extra weight higher pressure is applied), thus dramatically increasing amount of acceleration human body can endure. We have liquid-filled G-suits for fighter pilots in real life that make it possible to endure up to 10-11G. Full bath should be good for up to 20. Liquid breathing up to 40 (theoretically, this was not tried for several reasons). Having liquid inside lungs is important so that body won't cave in on lungs. With liquid in lungs that won't happen.
Yeah. This concept is really cool.
Essentially, the passenger (as piloting in the acceleration tank might be impossible) would be suspended in a liquid. You know how you can't really feel your weight when underwater? Well, it's like that in a way. The only issue is getting breathing fluid of similar density to the human body. Perfluorocarbons are too dense, but they do technically work.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_breathing
It'll probably be highly complex, but nonetheless doable...
Why no piloting? In modern fighter jets controls react on pressure applied on the stick rather than stick movement. Should be possible to do the same with submerged pilot.
Yeah. But a lot of modern fighter jets use beyond visual range combat. High gee turns don't happen every second. This is altogether different. What happens here is continuous high gee acceleration, while completely submerged in liquid, with a forced breathing apparatus and potentially loads of other equipment. There may be very little room for controls, and even if there was, the computer would be much better at flying that any human. Even now spacecraft are mostly on autopilot. That's not likely to change.
Can you do a break down of "Juice" and other enhancement of the expanse, such as the cognitive drugs used by martian interrogators, and Clarissa Mao's combat glands.
it's up to our interpretation, just like Epstein Drive.
@@PrograError My interpretation about the Epstein Drive:
"Space industry goes BRRRRRRRRRRRRR"
0:25 subtitles:
Renowed across the system as the record-setting racing penis
Edit:
Oh god 1:40
The penis can be operated by a single pilot when necessary, but carries an additional copilot to serve as the ship's navigator and emergency technician.
Any plans for Force Recon on season 4? Not a lot of new ships but stil...
Razorback? That is most definitely the Screaming Firehawk =)
1:13 we are officialy 2 generations from razorback, looking at where virgin galactic ship is on the side of the ship
We will never get close unless we are willing to embrace nuclear rockets.
So essentially, Julie did for pinnace racing what Michael Schumacher did for Formula 1 by shining a light on how the physical fitness of the driver can make a great deal of difference on race day.