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'I drove through country villages at 20mph to see what the fuss is about'
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- The 20mph speed limit will come into force across Wales on September 17, but it has already been piloted in a number of rural areas.
We went for a drive through a few country villages to see what all the fuss is about.
It's not about the villages, towns, cities etc. It's about places that are not built up between towns and villages.. roads that used to be 60 then 40 and now 20....which means in reality 15mph. Ridiculous, absurd, horrendous, lunacy, pathetic.... people have to get places😡😡😡😡😡😡😡
That's just stupid a 60 to a 20
No they are not !
I call bullshit. I've driven around small villages in North Wales and there is no 20mph limit outside of these villages.
No they are not. It's only in built up areas have the 20mph. Personally I don't see the need for 20 mph but to be honest it was a bit strange for a while but its no big deal. The idea that all road in Wales are now 20mph is nonsense. What it does do is make people who used to drive at 35 through 30mph zones now tend to do less than 30.
You're right. Its not about the villages, towns etc. Its about social control.
Try driving 10 miles at 20 mph through the South Wales Valleys because that's what it's about.
That would take him too far away from his Cardiff bubble! It's 'Wales Online' anyway, primary propagandist Dept of the Drakeford gang!
@@del_boy_trotter I saw one gut on YT saying "my car will do 17 mph in 4th gear at under 1000 Rpm", I was thinking yes the gear lever was probably shuddering like a nudist on a polar expedition. Everyone knows that's the best way to ruin your car, and it's not safe driving your car on the verge of stalling.
@@cerij4242 Some weirdos have come out of the woodwork, saying they "Like" the 20 mph! Lying bastards they are!👍
You have a road that is 20mph for 10 miles straight?
@@leightsp The Valleys in Wales are mostly all inter connected, and it's village after village all joined all were 30 now 20mph there is the odd bypass in some valleys but they are not very long due to the nature of the Valleys. So it's 20 Mph the length of the valleys.
its all about fines
I have a manual car to stick to 20 mph I have to be in 2nd gear the engine is at 1800 rpm over a week I use about 15% more fuel and as my speed cruise only starts at 30mph I have to continuously look at my speedo, so fatigue levels have gone up and it takes me 15 minutes longer to get into Cardiff. I can’t ride a bike because of plates and screws in one leg making it difficult to ride. The buses in my area have mysteriously changed there route and times to one an hour so! I have decided to give notice to work and move to Ireland.
If it takes you 15 mins longer doing 20 rather than 30 that implies the route is 15 miles long - is that correct, 15 miles of just 20 rather than just 30?
😦really ?
Dude, I live in Ireland and the driving here is astonishingly bad. I have more arse-puckering moments here every month than I've had in the previous 30 years of driving in the UK. Stay in the UK.
@br5380 I'm guessing it's less than half that distance, but he's probably a very careful and considerate driver
In a 20 zone, he probably has to be in 2nd gear and slows down to 15 mph to save fuel and avoid straining the engine
Obviously at that speed a lot more cyclists would be trying to overtake so being such a considerate road user he probably spends most of the drive pulling over to let cyclists safely overtake
@@simonhughes-king8493they probably have better bus service in the part of Ireland he's moving to
The petition against this ridiculous speed limit has reached just under 400,000 and that arrogant old woman Drakeford, who is supposed to represent the people of Wales has said that he will not reverse HIS decision regardless of the number who oppose it. "Saving lives" he says, but doesn't mention the impact on health of slower cars who are pumping out more fumes particularly in built up areas.
To slow a modern car you have to engage a lower gear which uses more fuel, creates more wear and tear on the engine, not to mention the fact that drivers are spending far too much time looking at their speedometers. Like the 50 MPH on the M4, it does nothing to reduce pollution, or safety, it simply creates havoc with the traffic flow.
It's about time the people of Wales spoke with their votes and got rid of any politicians who stand by this dictator.
I'm sure they have thought of the extra pollution especially. It'll be used as a weapon to clamp down further on people driving ICE vehicles in a few years.
Trouble is this dictator is just a puppet in a dictatorship. Voting wont change anything. they are all self serving dogmatic psychopaths
The Locomotive Act 1865 became known as the Red Flag Act, thanks to its extraordinary stipulation that any self-propelled road vehicle had to be preceded by a person walking at least 60 yards ahead, carrying a red flag.
We all know why ! It is put in place to punish drivers and make money 💰.
Agreed. They just want more money in taxes
Maybe drivers should stop punishing everyone by killing maiming and poisoning us
Driving an automatic car at 20 mph needs a foot constantly on the brakes putting more brake dust particulates into the air. It will take 33% longer to complete your journey and so 33% more pollution into the air. Businesses will be 33% less productive and will pass that cost on. All this just to appear virtuous.
Won’t be anywhere close to 33%. Nobody averages 30mph, the average speed on urban roads is 17.4 mph. Driving at 20 needs no more braking than 30, just less acceleration, and it causes less pollution not more.
@@tommybest1978 And where did you get the evidence? Drakefords oppo?
How much longer did it take and how much bigger were your carbon socks after? A truly brave and inspiring piece of motoring nonsense
@@user-sf7kl9uh7k Lower speed, lower gear, more wasted fuel, more wasted time is what the comment said.
Was that so hard to understand?
The UK is the Guinea pig capital of the world, thanks guys we now know exactly what to protest against hahah out of control what a joke. Your politicians are a cancer
@@user-sf7kl9uh7k Not if you drive in a non aggressive manner and braking has f all to do with fuel consumption.
I learned to drive in what is called "eco safe method' yeah, I was a truck driver and we had to go through this bs for the CPC courses we have to endure. so don't throw garbage
@@user-sf7kl9uh7k Yes, for 46 years and what is so childish? you threw the first garbage, you come across as the idiot mate, I suggest you grow up before you get yourself into trouble.
@@joeking1019 Ok, I'll remove my comments. There's no need for conflict
Doesn't really matter if you do 20 to go to the shops or visiting people.
I'm an engineer and need to do 5 visit's a day.
This will go down to 4 and the money lost on that one job gets spread to the other 4. (and even more cost added because we forced to get £40k electric vans).
The food costs will rise for the same reason you have been unable to cover the ground in the driving hours .
@@jonsnow6741 Yes definitely. Literally everything needs to be delivered at some stage.
40K for a van? You want them gold-plated or something? 😆
Berlingo Eletric is 20K, Kangoo ZE33 van, 23K, Nissan e-NV200 26K. BYD is aiming at below 23K for ETP3, which has conservatives scrambling to impose extra import tariffs to make sure UK cars remain as overpriced and garbage-tier as they can keep them.
40-60K is the luxury extended range extra horsepower versions of electric vans. Especially after BYD basically smashed their way into the market and forced a round of price reductions from Volkswagen, Tesla etc.
Heck, the ETP3 costs 28K here, and that's including a 10K extra EU anti-sustainability tax that they impose all on EV cars that aren't fully produced inside the EU. So the real price is just 18K.
@@SanderSA-ny3lh Good luck putting a ton in the belingo !
@@SanderSA-ny3lh eVito 66kWh Van L2 PROGRESSIVE £38K +PLUS vat. This is the one I like.
Slowing down to 20mph I would have to leave my house 15 minutes earlier and be on the road longer causing more pollution in my truck to get to work 😮
On a motorway you get a bottle neck when lanes merge e.g. 4 lanes to 3 or 3 to 2. Now on Welsh roads we have potentially a 40 or 30 mph stretch of road becoming a 20 mph road, drivers will brake causing rear end collision, the vehicle engines will be less efficient emitting more harmful tail pipe gas, the vehicles will use more fuel, drivers will concentrate on their speedo instead of the road!
Its a complete nonsense.
We don't all live in Cardiff and don't have the associated problems with traffic, collisions and injuries. What may work for cities may not be appropriate for the whole country. One size doesn't fit all.
Of the 22,000 miles of roads in Wales, 7,700 miles are now 20mph. I have no objection to driving at 20mph on residential roads, what I do object to is sitting at 20mph on roads when that speed is inappropriate and there are plenty of them.
We're going to have the situation where traffic is streaming towards a town at 50/60mph then it's down to 20mph which leads to traffic tailing back and having the situation where there are no gaps for pedestrians to safely cross or for cars to come out of side streets and heaven forbid, turn right! Then the traffic catches up on a cyclist doing 10/12mph and cannot safely pass because of on coming traffic, then other cyclists overtake or undertake the slow moving traffic. It's going to create danger in places where it didn't previously exist.
Another thing, the speed limit does not apply to cyclists as they're not mentioned in the Highway Code and cannot be prosecuted for speeding.
It's not about getting folk onto public transport around here as there are none and our nearest hospital is 23 miles away in England. Independent Wales? They're having a laugh.
They've been in power for 20 years. As they say 'Twenty is Plenty' it's time to get rid, enough is enough!
The greens in Scotland are considering imposing a 30MPH limit on motorways
Please say you're joking
@@gary63693 wish I was. Greens in discussion with road agency to make a mandatory speed limit of 30mph on the M8 -Scotland’s busiest motorway
On a few miles of the elevated section of the M8 through Glasgow, where the congestion means daytime traffic rarely goes much faster than that anyway.
Which removes the purpose of a motorway, genious!
I am very glad i will never visit Wales again.
Excellent
Wales Online is the Welsh Government mouthpiece.
Always
Try following a tractor for 20 miles,that's what it is like god help the people who have to drive for a living,it will drive them mad.
So glad i start driving at 2.30am. I have normally finished my deliveries by about 7.30am
More people will go to jail for road rage...
This Guy got Destroyed in the comments 😂
“There is not enough evidence to conclude that there has been a significant change in collisions and casualties following the introduction of 20mph limits in residential areas”
Atkins AECOM and Professor Mike Maher (UCL) were commissioned by the Department of Transport in 2014 to address the gap in evidence available on the effectiveness of 20mph speed limit (signed only) schemes. Twelve case study schemes were studied, from a variety of area types, road types and scale.
Published 22 November 2018
Last updated 11 March 2019
The bad press of killing more kids in an EV due to the increase in stopping distance due to the heavier vehicle would derail the electric sales.
@@roadracermark7946 And THAT, is Nail, Hit & Head!
@@roadracermark7946 True, I bought my BMW e39 because of its Euro NCAP ratings. Many people are swayed by 0-60 times. I would be more interested in 30-0, 60-0, 70-0 distances to compare between cars but they done really make much of those and actually they are very important!
@@roadracermark7946
The jihad conservatives wage against EVs by screeching BS like they will 'kill kids' is ridiculous.
Lying is a sin.
Do not need reports, its common sense that an obscure speed people are not used to drive at will cause them to look at their speedos more and hence suffer more accidents, plus the lower gear, hgh revs will cause more pollution and wear and tear on the car resulting in more scrappage and environmental damage, so the only valid reason they have is to remove cars from the road, get them in 15 minute cities.
I live in North Wales, and work in Cardiff quite a bit, what I have noticed is that more pedestrians in the 20mph zones don't bother to use the zebra or pelican crossing and just step out into the road. Also its very difficult to be totally aware of every cyclist undertaking you on the left they seem to be oblivious to other road users, who want to turn left across the cyclelane.
Pedestrians have the right to cross wherever they want, that's the law.
There's footage on UA-cam of that kind of thing in Amsterdam, people wandering round like zombies. The anti car lobby has created a mindset that cyclist/pedestrian is 100% the responsibility of drivers.
@@tombartram7384 that’s always been UK law, if you’re incapable of paying attention, stop driving
@@br5380 yeah you carry on, tell kids to ignore this trendy green cross code rubbish, let 'em get run over so you've made your "what should I ?" point.
THEY ALSO HAVE A DUTY OF CARE TO THEMSELVES AND OTHERS@@br5380
If you think 20mph is slow and nearly impossible don't come to Spain where in most built up locations the limit is now just 20kph or 12.5mph!
And have collisions and deaths stopped?
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 Charlie can't reply. He died because he got hit by a car travelling at 13mph
Are taxi prices going up for lost time?
They have in N Wales!
Near schools great in towns no. The chaos in Germany at 20mph at certain times is horrendous at peak times also concentration lapse and more small bumps it does not work the traffic queues just become longer. People in Germany ignore the 20mph
History is repeating itself, In the UK we had a 20 mph limit in towns/cities villages in the early 1900's but at that time it was not enforced and drivers disregarded it so it was abolished in the 1930 RTAct. later in the mid 30';s to be replaced with a more reasonable 30 mph limit. the one we have enjoyed until today. History will repeat itself although some, those with an interest, will find any excuse for retaining it with lies dam lies and statistics and propaganda to prove to others that it works??????
That is insanely slow(32kmh), when most of our towns here in NSW Austraila are 60kmh (37.3mph).
Australia is a country that is seriously lacking urban areas that aren't solely constructed for the movement of cars above all else. Even your downtowns are full of cars ruining the whole vibe. Australia is a car-dependent society, and suffers massively from it. So we won't have any lesson from an Aussie on how to make urban places safe and pleasant thanks.
@@JT-nr2ss To a point you are right, how ever we are actually mid way between the US and Europe/UK in terms of how car dependent we are. We have many car free streets, and shared zones (10kmh, peds have right of way) so no, what you describe sounds like the US, which we are not.
I've lived in a 20mph zone since 2016 and it doesn't stop people speeding to 30 and above. What's worse, I've even heard parents say that it's safer for their kids to play in the road now.............
I live in a 20mph zone too and very few drivers drive anywhere near ..most do 30 to 40 … there is also a useless speed ramp..or rather two side by side .. most cars can go straight through the middle without touching them .. bigger lorries and buses just straddle them.. completely useless …
@@xl5man Where it does work, the fact that some people now think the roads are safer will mean they're normalized at vehicles traveling at 20mph...but cyclists are exempt from the speed limit and can't be heard, so may become a problem. Why there were no bylaws also restricting cyclists to 20mph is a mystery to me, especially as residents think 20mph is ok if 'it saves on life'.
Add 22 speed bumps and offroaders come to our estate for fun 😊🇬🇧👍
@@xl5man
Depends where. On major through-roads the idea of slowing to 20 mph wouldn't even occur to me.
Sadly that sometimes means got to push the boomers out of the way who doing 10 mph while already screaming with fear as they think their car will explode if they go fast enough to get anywhere within 3 business days. 😆
@@xl5man They are deliberately designed for buses to straddle them, or the bus company won't send buses down roads with bumps.
Cruise control dont work on my car at 20
Cruise control is more suited to the motorway don't you think.
@@burropoco I use cruise control everywhere I go
poor delivery company's there drivers will get less done
Its easy to drive at 20 with an automatic. Just uses the brakes far more and far more fuel is used causing more pollution
Ask the next bus driver you see
It’s already causing problems with transmissions on the buses in North Wales, problems they have never encountered before
@@paul_nwsxs I bet.. sorry for only looking at my angle.. my bad, tbf I drive an audi, so I didn't notice any other road users 🤣🤣
Stupidity has a 20mph limit
Well I'm never going to Wales on holiday they can stuff it. I hope it bankrupts them.
now instead of watching the road drivers will be watching there speedo so they dont get a fine for going over the limit.Its just another govenment way of getting more money out of drivers in fines!!
There is a petition against it on the senedd web site just over of 100k already.
2nd day at 13:09 159.000 signatures.
13:19 now 160,289 signatures
@@cerij4242249k, keep spreading the word
300.000 now
Come to mid and north wales and drive 3 miles of 20 mph with not a house in sight. I totally agree with this on a housing estate, high street, schools, wales is not just cardiff
Did you complain when it was a 30?
@@br5380what would they complain about, that 30mph was too fast and they prefer it to be 20mph?
I think you need to read and understand what i said.
@@StanJankowskithat there use to be a 30 for 3 miles with absolutely no houses on it - so did folk complain when it was a 30?
absolute crap, i deliver to mid wales tell me where these 20mph are without a house in sight are for 3 miles? most roads are national limit until you actually get into villages and towns and then your out of them within 10 minuites.
I live in Central London, if I don't see a camera I ignore the 20mph rule. My smart car like 95% of Smart cars is automatic and as such does not get into third gear until 24mph, higher revs = more fuel = more pollution Perhaps pedestrians should consider self preservation! I am also aware that if a speed camera has been installed by a local authority a fine can not be enforced, although they might try!
The air quality in Wales will soon be far far worse than what Saddek Khunt thinks of Londons' air, which is far cleaner than he would have people believe.
In full automatic what actual revs is it doing at 20 vs 30?
It's all just another tax 🙄 they are hard at work thinking up of ways to create more income
@@endlessglizzys_.0233 easy way out, don’t break the law by speeding in 20’s, then nothing to pay
introducing these new speed limits is in breach of the Geneva convention. it only needs one international court case to outlaw them all
Not quite sure what the treatment of the sick and wounded in wartime and the procedures for dealing with internees and prisoners of war has to do with speed limits.
He was not doing 20 mph. He was doing 30 the entire time.
I know. Very misleading title. I can't find a video of anyone driving at 20mph!
@@pinatacolada7986 that may be because everyone thinks the new law is stupid. And it kind of is. Because the street lights are in areas where you’d do 60. And the map didn’t even work for north wales so no one knew the new 20 mph areas so the dumb people who don’t really get it just drive on some roads unnecessarily at 20mph
Flashing 20mph signs slow down, speed up, slow down, speed up. Make your minds up for goodness sake. Leave it at 30mph, unless outside schools, hospitals etc.
As for pedestrians learn the green cross code before crossing the road. Most things in life we do is a risk of some sort.
This country has gone of the rail in many ways.
I've driven at 20mph, last few weeks as an experiment early in the morning, it's a bloody nightmare.
I don't care about villages and towns, the biggest problem I have in going through Wales, is hordes of elderly Brits driving at 30mph on 60 limit roads. Birmingham to Aberystwyth should take 3 hours, but it actually take closer to 7 hours on some days, try explaining that to an employer, or someone who sits at a desk and does route planning on Google maps.
Around Luton areas its so built up we have some 40 & 60 roads where you get cars doing 30. It's like come on! When you are so restricted you just want to be able to do the max speed when you can. Especially if you have a powerful car.
@@endlessglizzys_.0233 Well I'd imagine Luton to be like Bradford, lot's of high performance German cars on cousins trade insurance policy, lots of small sh*tty hatchbacks on false plates, used by people with no driving license
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I live in a city and during the day most motorists there would love to be able to do 20.
The idiot 20mph is symptomatic of the calibre of piticisns running country today. There is no fkn hope for broken Britain if they arnt kicked out and put on the dole for the rest of thier lives, also at start of this video he mentions loads of lives will be saved........ How many?.... 3....4...in whole 12 months? While TENS OF THOUSANDS will lose their licenses, jobs and homes!!... Good job drakeford 🙄🙄
What you don't say is that some 20 mph zones will not have signs, the rules aparrently are if there are street lights then the default is 20, does this include the many inoperative street lamps? If you knew how a car works, you'd realise 20 is more polluting and it just moves the responsibility from those that could really do with some educating when it comes to roads and responsibility.
pointed out on another channel that EV are much heavier and take longer to stop hence dropping speed limit to avoid EV's having more accidents
Brake power is mandated in weight ratios, so that's a bunch of anti-EV nonsense.
A deliberate lie even unless that person is also ranting about SUVs, which are much heavier still.
@@SanderSA-ny3lh it was crash test specialists who raised concern as well so not a deliberate lie. Only lie is EV are better as they are clearly more damaging to the environment, lack the range, lack power points and can have power drained via smart meters should powers that be deem energy deemed needed elsewhere. Plus they plan to charge EV's per mile when enough have them. EV is stepping stone to removing private car ownership with the WEF not wanting anyone to own a vehicle. Hence the rise in 15 min cities....they point all this out
If one is to believe the official reasons for a 20mph limit on ALL urban roads, then surely the speed limit should be 10mph, or even 5mph - for the same exact reasons.
It is absolutely stupid, and impossible to follow without keeping an eye constantly on the speedometer. Making your Wales roadtrip a nightmare and probably the last trip you'll have in a car, because you'll lose your licence with all the point's you'll gather.
Once the Welsh tourist industry has nose dived into the pages of history, maybe the idiot who thought this was a good idea will change their mind....... I'm not holding my breath though.
Stick to the pavement for 20 MPH and let people who have to get to work and drive for a living use the roads properly no worries!
It’s a joke, constant fixation on the speedometer instead of the road, lower gears, higher revs, more pollution and longer journey times? It’s nothing to do with safety, people being hit by cars is at an all time low! The condition of the roads is a far more critical issue, if you want safer roads, then first the roads must be safe to use. How can a fudged survey of just 1000 people (many of which don’t even drive) be used to justify a nations speed limits? It’s time the people stood up and showed enough is enough, and that old f4rt drakeford needs removing from his dictatorship
I do hope those signs don’t disappear in the middle of the night.
Try to go 20mph in London with million of traffic lights and be on time wherever you go to.
Also driving constantly on 2nd and 3rd gear will wear off quickly your gear box.Councils issuing millions inf fines and you spending more and more on vehicle repairs.
This has to explode one day.
The 20 mph limit only applies to roads with street lighting...
Quickly people, take down those lamp posts. lol
@@gary63693 lol
Better to speed in the dark...ooh
They tell us speed kills.
The real question is why do they make all cars go faster than the speed limit?
It's bloody ridiculous!
TRY DRIVING THROUGH MAGOR TO THE MOTORWAY FROM CALDICOT AT BETWEEN 8am & 9am.. Its INSANE BUMPER TO BUMPER. THIS MUPPET IS DRVING THROUGH IN THE EARLY AFTERNOON…
people run faster than 20 .
Isn't the world record for running a mile 3:43 mins or 16 mph ?
@@ditch3827 Just as fast as an electric scooter. lol
What’s the point of making cars over 1 liter if this 20 mph comes in all over
You mean a Tesla twin motor? lol pathetic
We have 20mph limit on the Main Road past our house (in Scotland), this is silly low for the potential of the road
Based on this logic at 5mph it will be even safer.
My cars do not have speed control. I spend all my time watching the speedometer and not the other road users while keeping in third gear. There used to be signs saying 'Welcome to Wales' and the old interpretation was 'You're welcome to it!'.
If our leaders were serious about reducing road death they would stop importing unqualified drivers arriving on little boats.
It is immigration thats keeping accident figures so high.
How much has it cost to change all the speed signs from 30 to 20?
32 million I've heard
@@hazharibo7439 Oh they'll be getting that back in no time, with all the fines from people doing 21mph!
I'm a delivery driver, and I've studied the maps in my delivery area. I'm pleased to say most of the new 20 limits and exceptions are quite reasonable. Most of the new 20's are in areas where I wouldn't normally go over 25mph, the places where it was a bit daft have been excepted and stayed a 30. I've been doing 20mph in many old 30 zones for a few weeks leading up to the change to get used to it and it's not really made much difference. So I'm generally in favour of the change.
If you're law abiding but hate doing 20mph, blame the speeders. Loads of them go beyond the limit. It's probably a good thing that the people who used to do 40mph in a 30 will now bring their speed down to a safer 25 or 30mph in the new 20mph zones. It's their loss if they get a ticket.
Hope your van doest create more pollution for us cyclists driving at that slow speed
Hope your van don't wear out too fast at 6k revs in 2nd gear all day,more revs +more fuel and more pollution.
I've done a fair few miles in the 20 zones in Scotland. It takes a bit if getting used to, but it's fine.
I am a Welsh expat now living in Australia.I have just returned from the visiting North Wales.I found it very hard to stick at 20mph.I also found it a little frustrating coming down from 60 mph to 20 mph every couple of miles grrrr.
No one is complying in the Conwy area. I followed an open topped tourist bus the other day and it was doing 30 so was the rest of the traffic. Keep ignoring stupid laws, it’s what keeps our communities free.
Wales have done the English a favour. There's no way on earth the English will except the damage that the 20MPH zones have done
in Wales👍👍👍
accept
You fail to mention the most important result of the 20 limit: more pollution. There is no way you can dump 10mph-worth of kinetic energy going into a now-20-was-30 limit without generating brake dust and waste heat. There is no way you can restore that lost kinetic energy when you leave the limit without burning more fuel accelerating. The effect on overall fuel consumption is quite noticeable. You can add to that more congestion. If you increase the time it takes to get through a now-20-was-30 limit then, if you want to maintain the same traffic flow (vehicles per hour), you have to have 50% more cars in the limit at any one time.
Try it in a wagon and see how you go . over 330k now say no which is a little different than the 100 asked by someone somewhere !
I prefer driving at 20mph sounds silly but its the truth. For me now driving at 30mph is almost surreal.
A more rational discussion on this than I've heard/seen elsewhere.
According to police collision and coroners reports, 98% of all accidents and deaths on 30mph limit roads were at less than 20mph. Reducing the speed limit will not alter this as most times it was a clueless or impaired pedestrian found to be at fault According to the result recorded by the cor
-oners courts.
Drive at 20 for 5 minutes .. oh that was easy. Now try living like that every journey every day.
Drives to Caldicot at the quietest part of the Day to prove His Point ……… Says everything you need to know about his integrity….
Can you imagine emergency vehicles being advised to comply with the speed limit when attending an emergency, and what sort of reply would be made.
Luckily that will stay in your imagination as a pathetic opposition piece against this great policy, because ambulances will of course be allowed to blue light to emergencies.
Unless of course they get blocked by all the drivers clogging the roads by making needless car journeys one person to a car, as is usually the case.
It's not a speed issue. It's bad city planning and underinvestment in road infrastructure.
I think you mean underinvestment in pedestrian and cycling infrastructure. Low speed limits are only required on shared roads.
Cities were planned and built before the explosion in domestic vehicle ownership. Blame society not the planners.
Why don't they just bring back the person walking in front of each car with a red flag? Retrograde step? But just think of the jobs it would create.
My diesel will choke up with carbon at 20 mph which will make it less efficient. My cruise control does not work below 29mp. The Hyundai car I drive is most efficient at 50 to 70 mph and not at all efficient at 20mph, 45mph vs 28mph and when I pull a horse box it will halve. Towing a horse or any livestock for longer periods is not good for the animals, less time is preferred for obvious reasons.
They introduced these 20mph zones in Scotland a few years ago, everyone drives at 30mph, including the buses, and the police.
No they don't, I live here.
And the biggest benefit is that folk who use to drive 35-40 in 30's are now doing less than 30 in 20's - still breaking the law, but at least at a slower speed.
@@br5380 You've got more chance encountering hen's teeth than spotting a 20mph vehicle in a 20mph zone.
@@BrownDaddy007come follow me, you’ll be doing 20
they estimate 12 deaths per year. saving lives is good!
I waa in holyhead yesterday from Leeds delivering it is a nightmare !!
if no one adheres to the 20 mph there is not a thing they can do about it.
If people stop paying their council tax, there's not a thing they can do about it. Then they'll listen
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By schools and streets yes and everywhere NORMAL !!! NO
😂 that is soo stupid , for seafty? Now drivers will focus on them gauges to keep the limpit . Instead of looking around to see what is going on the road they will keep looking on the dash .
Also emissions will go up . Wanna see diesel owners on 3 rd gear with 1k rpm 😂😂😂. Will be 2nd gear with higher rpm just to keeps engine in healty condition
I'm a lorry driver.. i don't have an issue with the 20..
But I've plenty of fustrated motorists over take me becauae they cannot bear it.
It not going to make the roads safer from that point of view, lets see if the accident stats rise
Lorry driving at 20mph must be polluting the air that us cyclists breath
@@andrewhubbard4044 *breathe*
but yet you drive with your cruise control to maximum at about 56mph. If you don't have a problem, then we'll slow all you truck drivers down to 40mph. That'll be fun for those mad tipper drivers. lol
@gary63693 they'll probably run you off the road! Lol.
Seriously, it never bothered me, 18 years so far. no tickets yet!
yeah, why drive at 30 if "realisticaly" you don't go at 30 anyway. Brilliant ! This guy probably works for a "ministry of silly drives".
You are a labor party activist
''There are houses both sides" So what?
Means it is a Village. Government is so out of their minds.
SO NOW WE CAN'T GET OUT OF 2nd GEAR Which make's it WORSE ? WAR ON CARS .as if There's More Worse in Wales 2 Think About Then THIS ???
Wales is full of holiday cottages and not much else.
What about the volunteer emergency crews "ie part-time firemen/RNLI who are on call", if they get a call/shout as they're NOT in official vehicles they will have to travel at 20mph in their private vehicles, which could be putting lives at risk.......
It doesn't even make sense in cities.
I would venture to say collisions with pedestrians would be reduced better by preventing obstructions to sight of children and others approaching the road, plus more traffic Islands. Ie ban kerbside parking, reduce road furniture ie bollard,s posts etc, better lighting etc
20mph semi lockdown controll limit
My cruise control in my car wouldn't work because I need to be in the top gear. 20mph would mean no need for 3rd. 4th, 5th or 6th gear.
if you're struggling to maintain 20, use cruise control.
and now your feet are further away from the brake pedal.
@@piggypiggypig1746your feet must be somewhere else than where mine are then - pay attention!
Are these 20 limits all covered by speed cameras?
No but trouble is you only need to miss seeing one once and you’ll cop a ticket. This whole thing is greenwashing madness.
wow, riveting piece
The fuss is about its bloody rediculous.
“When lights flash”? What do you do when someone more intelligent is behind you and they flash?
let them past. You are supposed to do that
@@gary63693 I was being sarcastic
One of the main reason they've brought in the 20mph zones in Wales is because EVs take longer to stop because of the weight of the batteries, the bad press of killing more little kids wouldn't help shift them off the dealers forecourt to mums in EV 4X4s.
Not forgetting, in the recent report on Health in Wales, this 20 mph limit, is clearly, to:
"Move into a modal situation where 20 minute neighbourhoods will replace the need for private cars on roads!"
So that, is what the truth of it is! Labour/Plaid are hell-bent on creating what the WEF has directed them to create! Only the complete removal of both Plaid & Labour, from any Parliamentary process can halt their plans!
There again, idiots will always do what they are told and continue to vote Labour/Plaid!
All the tests I've seen on carwow run contrary to that claim. I guess partly due to their regenerative braking system. I'm sure EV car makers would have installed more powerful brakes on them if it was an issue. If I were going to speculate as to a link between the 20mph limit and EVs, I would have thought it was because they're silent running.
All because theres no doctors and nurses
What i hope is for common sense to prevail. Dripford is no doubt on a power trip. He has revealed himself as being a nasty, narcissistic idiot. That said. It is a caring and considerate soul who understands that a safe and reasonable speed in town is no more than 30 mph. So what i hope will happen is that the Police will continue to monitor 30 mph zones ... whilst completely ignoring Dripfords narcissistic 20 mph roads. That way; so long as we continue to be safe, alert and considerate drivers in Wales, Mark Dripfords horrid little power-trip will spectacularly and embarrassingly crash. Power to the (considerate) people !!!
It’s going to cost more to drive at such a low gear, food prices will go up, delivery drivers are on the roads between 45 minutes to an hour more.
Labour are so be for the working class what a joke.
Buses and HGV were not supposed to drive at such low speeds.
Has for the average journey only been affects by 45 seconds is a total load of bull.
I know business like grass cutting/ hedge trimming etc who can do a few jobs in a day, they can’t pass that cost on to the client.
What do you expect from the media again the media not speaking against the idiot M Drakeford.
The real reason they are reducing speed limits is because EVs are a lot heavier and fair a lot worse in emergency breaking that internal combustion cars.