The Cult of Camdan Jerrard Davis
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- Опубліковано 26 лют 2024
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This is the most coherent telling of this story and I still don't know what's going on.
Bro I know 😂 like wtf are these girls talking about? Out of nowhere they will be talking about werewolf lore like it's real life.
@@Astra_DystopiumStephanie Meyer destroyed an entire generation lol.
@@Astra_Dystopium Blaccula went grrrrrrrrr into the camera... that's as far as i understood.
A moron lied and now wants to blame an ex for their being a liar and an idiot.
There I summed up "Spender" for you.
She's a dime a dozen "MeToo" liar who wants to be the victim, when they are in fact the guilty one.
Never believe any victims who don't report their cases immediately and with evidence.
@@mikeoxlong1395 Blaccula? More like Count Chocula
why does it feel like in the first 2-3 minutes of this we've already learned more about camden jerrard davis than in like 6+ hours of mamamax content
And we’re actually shown interviews and literal evidence. Tom doesn’t mess around. Also that Max guys voice makes me physically ill
i am a bullfrog and i approve of this statement
I learned more in the first 30 seconds
Because Mamamax is a lazy fraud in this for his own gain, and it's amazing people didn't pick up on that when he was first caught faking content and bullying people to support him.
Later interviews showing he didn't even know the most basic relevant laws to cases he pretended to be the champion about for years, and just asking chatGPT for all of his "research" was that "sounds about right" moment.
Saying his lies about death threats, lies about catching people, was raising awareness by speaking from an alternative dimension where pedos ruled the world and he was the leader of the rebellion, and UA-cam was just too dumb to understand this, was the sprinkles on his borderline personality disorder cake.
How can anyone support him?
Cause max was doing this shit for money and clout
Spencer: so yeah I had to be quiet and stay hidden every day from his parents
Also spencer: *describes WWE match where Camden becomes the hulk and lobs a giant stone pot, all without parents hearing or wondering where the 60 pound giant vase went
LMAO
To be fair, it is easy enough to assume that the WWE match happened while the family was away.
It's the werewolf powers man
I get the feeling she def fabricated some of her story.. not excusing the dudes action at all tho
@@hunterashton673
Yeah, she absolutely is. A stone vase the size she’s describing weighs like 100lb, and she’s talking like he’s picking it up like you would in Zelda. 😅
The moment she went "When he saw me protecting my stomach with my hands, he went even harder" is such fanfic material that I literally couldn't take anything else she said seriously lmao
tl;dr - terminally online high school drama with some particularly fucky details gets picked up by the only real vampire in this story: a clout vampire.
That entire drama perfectly summarized
Indeed. I had a really messy relationship when I was a teenager and this sounds exactly like that, right down to the Whisper and Kik stuff. It just SCREAMS highschool drama that they never grew out of
it's all so cringe 😭😭 this was so hard to listen to
Spencer just really loves cult leaders be it a edgy poly one or a megalomaniac who thinks he has a cult of personality
Perfectly said
Blackula rizzed up the entire mental ward.
Spencer saying 'That was just a whole fuckin' Wattpad thing' is an unintentionally perfect summary of a lot of this.
Especially when she uses names of characters straight from Law & Order 😂😂
Gonna tell my kids this was Teen Wolf
😆😆😆
Hahahahah
I had a hard time following this, but I'm starting to get a sense that NONE of these people were werewolves
DUDE SPOILER! smh hahaha
No no no I saw the video he's REALLY powerful and scary
You have proof bitch?
Plot
Twist
They
Are
All
Teenage Vampire werewolves angel goddesses who are all pregnant in an abusive poly relationship and none of them graduated Hs
@@Scarlettfeverdreamofnyso...reddit/discord mashed up with wattpad?
Spencer calling another girl complicit after recruiting for him is CRAZY.
That part is crazy. Especially that her current perspective is still that way, and she isn’t even framing it as how she felt at the time or anything. The mental gymnastics
Its crazy she thinks we believe should climbed through the window without shaking the houses foundation
@@dumbfoundedkiryu9468 And she's never "lived off saltines" a day in her life.
💀
💀💀
Camdan basically figured out that BPD girls with a tragic addiction to twilight fan fiction will do pretty much do anything you want them to.
if only it was real
he cracked the code.
He flew too close to the sun.
LMAOOOOOOOOO 😂🤣💀
Too bad they're ugly as sin.
The most traumatized Spencer sounds in this whole video is describing when Camden made her diet and exercise.
Damn! 😂
I mean... Just look at her. She looks like the type to lie about literally anything for attention. They ALWAYS look the same.
she actually sounds upset he kicked her out of the cult. then talks about how she escaped......she didn't escape? getting kicked out means there was nothing to escape from.
@@driadoe I don’t like to judge appearances too harshly but unfortunately you are 100% right
Still can't believe Max's downfall all started because a guy pretending to be a werewolf god ran away with Gorlock the destroyer
Gorlock 👹
Not Gorlock😂😂😂😂😂 fking ded
he probably led her away with a van saying "free my chemical romance merch" lmfao
Blackula and Gorlock...still better than Twilight.
Nah bro gorlock is crazy 😂
I love that Kiwi Farms won't stop calling Camden "Blackula" lmao
He looks like Cory from Cory in the House lol
I swear that sound like a name from a 90's sitcom
The Dark Lord
@@bluemariomedia8351it’s an actual movie
At least there are no "crimes against children" involved!🤔Just weired people who lied and abused each other...🙄
Part of me can't help but think this is just some petty highschooler drama that got blown out of proportion.
Or a roleplay group that takes stuff too seriously
That's 100% what this was.
@@nman551reminds me of the FFVII House.
@@LeighsLittleLifebut worse, yeah.
Tbh it really comes off as "girl ran away from home to be with internet boyfriend, realized it wasn't fun living with him and his parents, regretted it, then went back home and claimed everything was abuse to escape responsibility." It's hard to say without hearing both sides, but it's really hard to believe most of her claims and allegations. They just seem way too far fetched to believe that all of this abuse, assault, and beatings were going on in his parents home without anyone hearing or noticing.
Leviathans? So this isn't just supernatural, it's Supernatural.
I thought I was crazy, it was from Supernatural.
@@chrisb4131 season 7 lol
Hotline Supernatural
Or Hellraiser
@@bluemagician9724 Hellraiser had hardcore BDSM demon dorks. These are just regular dorks so not really Hellraiser, more this other thing OP was telling about.
Oh, this guy is actually real? Mamamax fucked this up so bad that I thought this guy was completely fiction.
Ain’t it crazy how he couldn’t do one video right on a real person
Real person, fake "cult".
@@flanflan88eh seems like it was a real cult at least from where I've gotten into the video but it seems like it was way over Dramatized parodied to fit into MamaMax's weird delusional super pedophile cults running the world and a resistance called the children ran by him fighting back this Camden does seem like a weird delusional cultist that convinced Gullible people around him into following his cult but it's nothing like how Max explained it
I thought Camden was just an actor. All of it is just so absurd it sounds like a really bad ARG
Real person, who used to date spencer, dumped her, and nows shes trying to ruin his life.
All the "cult" shit is just shitty online roleplay
This all sounds like some brain-dead high school club drama. It seems like they had some online club for nerds into Twighlight, there was some infighting, and two members with BPD made up a bunch of garbage.
Most sane discord group:
Yes thank you lol
This the most accurate TLDR of the situation
This seems to be exactly what happened.
High school? Bro, I knew people like this in COLLEGE. Freaking crazy
Either Blackula is a criminal genius manipulator with an intelligence higher than Kira or Spencer is making stuff up.
BLACKULA? 💀💀💀
@kms1011 yeah blackula is Dc's blade 😎
@@xAA-zd9np OG Blade.
@@kms1011it's a 1970s blaxploitation movie. He's black Dracula.
"blackula" is fucking hilarious lmaoooo
Spencer: "We have evidence, but we won't say what it is."
That about sums it it, doesn't it.
There's no way there were actually "hundreds upon hundreds upon hundreds of victims" that's an insane amount.
You know. How can he possibly be caught? He have more money and connections than Epstein. FBI can't touch him because of his powers
rl i laughed when she said dat. can not take her serious 4 shit
Yeah if there was actually that many people that went to Georgia that got SA'd by Camdan, it'd be a national news story.
@@SeriousStriker even if she's talking about like sexting, that's still an absurd number, and no one has come forward with screen caps?
i don’t think there’s even 1 victim
"I was missing my period."
Yeah, a diet of nothing but saltines and malnutrition will do that to ya.
Periods are WACK
They do want they want when they want, it's the worst
Malnutrition? Look at her, girl is built like a 1996 Ford Bronco 😂😂
@@imjustroleplaying Especially werewolf vampire periods, apparently.
@@SuperCosmicMutantSquidwerewhale
Assuming her claims are true, she was absolutely malnourished. Clearly, she beat that shit a long time ago.
As a woman (and mother) who knows basic anatomy, Spencer did NOT have back to back micarriages with no medical intervention. Its not possible. And women dont just lie so flippantly about LOSING A CHILD without having serious behavioral problems, including compulsive lying. All of us women with half a brain knew Spencer was lying the minute she opened her mouth. Its actually disgusting.
And dont give me that " oh she just misunderstood her cycle" bullshit. Spencer is a grown ass woman who knows better. Even if she didnt kno THEN, she knows NOW. And she's STILL pushing this lie for victim points. God its so gross!
Ive known a girl just like her for 8 years. She was my best friend. Believing all of her stories that are always so full of gory and disturbing things was so much for 14 year old me to handle.. it was a lot. To this day I wont believe a single word that comes out of her mouth, even if I want to believe her so badly. I just cant.
She definitely knows, because she suddenly claimed to have PCOS when asked about her lack of D&C.
I’m surprised how little everyone is talking about how calm she is. Like, people process grief differently, but I don’t think a single person on earth could go through this level of abuse and trauma and then just talk about it like it’s nothing. It’s like she’s talking about the weather or something, there’s not even a crack in her voice to indicate she’s holding back tears. She doesn’t even sound like she’s numb about it, like some might expect from someone whose been through insane abuse like this, she’s got the inflection of someone talking about how it rained a little yesterday in the middle of summer.
I have been through some rough stuff myself, including SA, and even though it was long ago now and I have generally grown past it, I still find myself crying sometimes over what happened. I’m not healed, exactly, and I don’t think I ever really can be, but even though it’s been more than a decade, I can still find myself breaking down when I think about it too hard. I’m repulsed by kids and never want to have them, but even I would probably never talk about a miscarriage as casually as this.
@@RailfoxStudios Great point. I would add that you called out the exact reason why no one believes her, even without all the fake miscarriage nonsense. Experts say that 80 to 90% of communication is nonverbal so we're all looking at HOW shes telling this story before even processing her weird ass timelines and unrealistic scenarios. THEN when we think about what shes saying, we've already all but dismissed it because her tone and body language are screaming "IM DOING THIS FOR ATTENTION LOOK AT MEEE".
TLDR: Bitch doesnt pass the vibe check 🤣
@@zogwort1522your voice cracking is kinda like going into falsetto, doesn't have anything to do with the vocal fry
People need to take her claim about her LURING MINORS FOR SEX more seriously. If that is the truth, she needs to be in prison NOW. Also, shame on her for taking all this money that is supposed to help her and the other victims, and then basically letting Kai and her baby starve and beg for money on Facebook. Shame shame shame. What a terrible situation
Yeah I caught that. I wonder if that was the reason she got booted. Camden found out and despite being a creep he may not actually be a pedo. He learned what she tried to do and booted her. Then went to go check on the girl. Idk
Its very likely to be a load of bs like the rest of her tale
If a victim helps victimize others they are no better than the abuser
@@dirtymarauder7553Virginia Giuffre
literally talking about the r**** incident with a 13 year old and her "trying to cancel the uber" i'm calling the fucking police in that incident and the way she talks about it is remorseless if this shit actually happened i think she holds no self accountability which is kind of disgusting to me
This is a striking example of why parents need to be more involved in their kids' lives.
Kinda hard to do that when you have people like Spencer who more than likely had a normal family life but was acting like a little shit because her parents didn't let her do destructive shit and she labeled them as abusive.
@@SuperCosmicMutantSquid not a defense of spencer, but bad home lives are usually the reason why kids get involved with these dumb destructive groups
Or that certain people shouldn’t be parents.
This story basically supports why the men and women in the younger generation refuses to have children. These young people needed protection and direction, didn't get it, now a huge mess.
@@SuperCosmicMutantSquidFrom how manipulative Spencer seems, 99% of the time it’s a result of a bad home life. I have no idea if her parents are abusive & I don’t want to speculate, but she had to have learned that behavior from somewhere at a young age
The funniest part is that Camden is a huge dork larping as a Vampire, and Spencer is SKETCHY as hell.
A vampire werewolf god
@@amusingmoose9924 A 2 in one god 😱
i imagine Camden's voice to sound like Steve Urkel LOL
Spencer wanted Camden's sexual werewolf energy but he just wanted a friend. ☹
Spencer strikes me as someone who has the intelligence of a chicken and will believe literally anything someone tells her and will say whatever keeps eyes on her
This video and the ABSURD drama is a perfect insight to how it feels to be in the weird kid friendgroup in middleschool
You can’t call every decision you regret SA. She is describing consequences of terrible choices she is making on her own with another idiot.
I know a woman who would tell her husband, "get me drunk or we're not having sex" regularly when he wanted any intimacy. She eventually turned around and accused him of getting her drunk to take advantage of her and SA her. She included all those times that she demanded to get drunk knowing it would end in sex. But literally everyone remembered that, so no one took the SA accusations seriously. Because honestly she was just eager to dump him and look morally righteous doing it before she moved on to another man she was having a secret affair with.
Said man she was having a secret affair with was a known abuser.
@@Kanaleah source?
@@enough2715 Source? Source? Source?
Do you have a source on that?
Source?
A source. I need a source.
Sorry, I mean I need a source that explicitly states your argument. This is just tangential to the discussion.
No, you can't make inferences and observations from the sources you've gathered. Any additional comments from you MUST be a subset of the information from the sources you've gathered.
You can't make normative statements from empirical evidence.
Do you have a degree in that field?
A college degree? In that field?
Then your arguments are invalid.
No, it doesn't matter how close those data points are correlated. Correlation does not equal causation.
Correlation does not equal causation.
CORRELATION. DOES. NOT. EQUAL. CAUSATION.
You still haven't provided me a valid source yet.
Nope, still haven't.
I just looked through all 308 pages of your user history, figures I'm debating a glormpf supporter. A moron.
@@enough2715… it’s an anecdotal story? Why tf you asking for a source.
@@RuinedComedianpay no mind. He's an idiot.
Moral of the story, don't give gullible teenagers with mommy and daddy issues cell phones
This. People saying these people are dumb for believing the vampire stuff but not realizing Camden literally targeted, “kids who want to run away.” Most kids don’t seriously want to run away unless their home life is already messed up. Likely most of them have previous abuse, possibly physical or sexual. That on top of being. 12-16 and highly impressionable.
@Thebritcoll Bruh, don’t even start that nonsense again. We already went through that with Spencer and Max the first few times around, and until I see some actual evidence supporting these accusations, shut your stupid face. 🥱
@@Thebritcollmy little sister is 9 years old decently online and nowhere near this retarded. This is neglected stupid and overweight child looking for acceptance anywhere they could get it. It comes down to actually having an attentive home live
the problem is the one who gave them those issues are also the ones who gave them cellphones so like..
What this. What is video what happening. Exit
WE FILLING UP THE PISS JARS AND GETTING OUT THE CULT DURING THE FULL MOON WITH THIS ONE 🔥🔥🔥🔥
WE LIFTIN UP 60 POUND STONE VASES IN THIS ONE‼️🗣️🔥🔥
JARATE!
@@rnpee YABA DABA DOOOOOOOO!
Piss jars are a staple of every good story
Piss jars used to be an actual witchcraft thing, they're still digging them up back east, but idk why people brag about doing it like 😂 keep it to yourself fam
One inconsistency in her story is that after she fought back and overpowered him he stopped beating her. Later she says he beat her the final time she ever saw him.
Bruh. Obviously Blackula went through a training arc to beat her one last time.
Hey, she had just had her daily rations of saltine and was thus loaded up on electrolytes...who knows the last time he fed on someone. ;)
there's so many inconsistencies I actually missed that one! if you took a shot everytime Spencer testimony has an inconsistency you'd be dead from alcohol poisoning.
CGD is such a mastermind that he planned all this out to Traffic Hundreds if not Thousands of girls through his moms house while living with her and his brother but didnt think to get the money before selling illegal images. Believable
All while he was still in high school.
"I didn't want to tell the police because i feared the situation involved super natural forces beyond their power.... and the would get my parents involved"
This is the funniest sentence anyone has ever said.
I agree
The whiplash is INSANE
She definitely had things in perspective.
The part of how they just hide the SDcard / the phone files to protect the guy is funny too. If he is your God, then any regular human can't unsubscribe the guy. How a regular human can beat a God, this is not a video game holy shit.
Shit I'm glad you commented this; I thought I was a shitty person lol.
This story is basically what you get when a group of middle school dropouts and social outcasts take a large amount of acid and write a story about their high adventures.
Seriously. This is like Jupiter the Hybrid levels of rants
No seriously wtf is this story, it feels like it was made up along the way, just seems like a bunch of teenage girls fighting over a guy and they somehow turned it into this big ordeal
This is the type of story people who never did drugs came up with
Final Fantasy house vibes
This is only funny if you don't know anything at all about acid
I swear to God these people always have a certain "look" about them.
The girl talking in most of the video definitely sounds like she is making it all up especially with all the vocal fry she hassssssssssss going onnnnnn😂😂😂😂😂
Wendigoon voiceover threw me off so hard LMAO love how this dude pops up as a cameo unexpectedly every so often
Oh my god I was just listening than *sudden Wendigoon* I picked up my phone so fast 😂
The way my brain went "WENDIGOON⁉️⁉️"
No fr tho!
I lov wendi, it was a bit of a jumpscare doe fr 😭
Wendigoon is goated
This sounds like delusions of grandeur by a Twilight Saga fan.
Literally
Hahahaha xD so true. Every girl in in this story is comicly dumb af
With a twist of Supernatural. "Ishmael" is a borderline illiterate kid's attempt at an angel name, they don't know about Moby Dick cause they couldn't get through 2 pages of it
1000%
Jeeeeeesus christ also the AI pics spliced between edits were killing me. x
Yeah they’re somewhat awkward
Mhm. I'm not one of those people who loses my shit about AI, as though using it for filler and B roll makes you a bad person somehow, but several of the pics are noticeably poorer in quality than if Tom just used stock photos.
I recently discovered Tom's channel, and I immediately became a fan. The AI images are just a small nitpick, though. If he had gone in and touched them up, I think that would have helped a lot.
Wait, people are actively watching Tom's videos? I usually use Tom's stuff as background audio.
It's the one where a black dude is holding a box of crackers for me xD
@@CCLFan1 for real, unsplash is free and homie be usin the worst dang AI generated crap for b roll 😭 hopefully he's not paying for a sub bc what a damn waste of money when a legit stock image is just as good
"When things started not adding up..." STARTED???
Spencer wasn’t ever pregnant, I don’t think it’s possible to have 4 miscarriages in four months. It takes 4 to six weeks to even show symptoms
Yeah this whole thing is a farce
It's VERY VERY VER improbably. Stranger things have happened but I'm not very inclined to believe her and im pretty sure she just had her period once a month for 4 months LMAOOOO
@@IchigoDeFoliebeing overweight and malnourished (if we're to believe her stories of being starved) could all lead to irregular periods and stomach issues, aka the only reasons for her thinking she was pregnant
Yeah, her description of the timings for all the pregnancies and miscarriages don’t really add up. Also, is it just me or was there come contention as to whether they were miscarriages or abortions? I seem to remember that from Tom’s last video
Well and don’t you need to have a procedure done after a miscarriage to avoid complications? I am not a doctor nor a woman but miscarriage implies that something is there it just didn’t make it right? So I would think you would need to get it out.
Sad Turkey Tom had to do Mamamax’s job for him
I'm a 30+ year old media creator with aspergers syndrome who is a jack of all trades with a passion for fighting against cyberbullying. I've been doing these kinds of things for over 10 years and I've picked up a whole set of different skills along the way.
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I'm a 30+ year old media creator with aspergers syndrome who is a jack of all trades with a passion for fighting against cyberbullying. I've been doing these kinds of things for over 10 years and I've picked up a whole set of different skills along the way.~
I'm a 30+ year old media creator with aspergers syndrome who is a jack of all trades with a passion for fighting against cyberbullying. I've been doing these kinds of things for over 10 years and I've picked up a whole set of different skills along the way.~
I'm a 30+ year old media creator with aspergers syndrome who is a jack of all trades with a passion for fighting against cyberbullying. I've been doing these kinds of things for over 10 years and I've picked up a whole set of different skills along the way.~
It’s amazing that a crazy guy who believed that he was a vampire and werewolves managed to convince a bunch of teenagers to view him as God. I wish my mental illness was that cool. I just have anxiety attacks that caused me to say things that ends up, driving away all my friends and family. so literally the opposite of what he does.
The craziest thing is that A GIRL WHO GRADUATED COLLEGE was believing this stuff, supernatural wolf alien sex whatever. But him calling women cheaters is where she drew the line? 😂
i just got to that part and im genuinely baffled a college student falling for this shit lmao. she also talks like a fucking 15 year old high schooler, not a college graduate lmfaooo
As a college graduate... it ain't what it used to be. You have room temperature IQ people getting degrees because they're diploma kills at this point. As long as you show up you basically pass.
I mean, to be fair, if someone who might be delusional (for example), they can sound like they really believe it. And if that person tells you stuff like that over and over again while being really manipulative, you might actually believe it too, no matter how smart you are. Being intelligent ≠ not being easily manipulated.
Shoko Asahara's cult had a majority composition of college to university educated individuals, being intelligent doesn't necessarily mean you aren't easily led on.
@@HallowedOstelogist Being intelligent just means that they can rationalize their beliefs better.
No one is immune to falling for dumb shit
Crazy how max couldn't explain his own case for months yet tom was able to summarize it in a little over an hour
Well max is actually really stupid. I’m betting he tried to use chatgpt to put the timeline together
@@XxSTACKxXyes
Max needs to add some stupid voiceover and referencing hotline Miami while flashing images of SniperWolf and Critikal loool
i think the only reason max made it more vague and scary than it actually is was cuz he already promised spencer hed make a video on it, thats prolly why he just rambled and didnt show anything and just linked to the podcast.
I think the most heartbreaking thing about all of this is that it seems almost 100% true that Camden was definitely a serial abuser who dated and abused all of these women and used the RP and Supernatural/twilight craze to create an ERP group to get vulnerable girls, and Max and possibly Spencer decided to manipulate the story into being about a massive pedo cult with all these insane things happening and basically destroyed these girls reputations and ability to get justice for what they did go through. Spencer dragged everyone else through the mud to pretend it justified her own abusive behavior towards them during the timeline and to benefit financially off of everything, and Max jumping onto it thinking it would be a massive success for his film career and probably to pretend that him covering this case magically absolves him of his own history of similar abuse and manipulation towards his own exes. They both used a shared abusive relationship among these girls for profit and gain
This exactly. So fucked up.
The fact we still know more about Spencer's shady shit than Camden's is amazing.
I mean the evidence the police got made it 100% they were lying about him, so idk why you'd come to that conclusion other than "men=bad"
Exactly
No I bet it was just metoo garbage from a angry piggy.
You fucked up now, Turkey Tom. Trifling with lolcows is one thing, but you've made a werewolf your enemy.
word at the tavern is that leviathans are coming for him
@@Glitter_H_Hoof Can you contact Turkey Tom and tell him to line his doors and windows with salt? And to stock up on holy water. I'm worried about him.
@@zazikikomo7796 wouldn't it be wolfsbane instead of salt?
And, like, silver?
Nah look he'll want to surround his house in lemon juice and rolled up newspapers
Takes 3-4 showers before going to the cops then unironically records her alleged attacker's age as *216 years* old, born in 1800.
That case was doomed.
I pity any police officer that has to deal with this
'so your rapist convinced you he was a vampire and was in a polyamorous relationship with you and your friend a year ago, is that correct?'
Also he dated another girl just to make you jealous?
"oh and you helped him by luring pre teen girls to his house so they could be sa'd too?"
Now it's even more freaking confusing than before
Can we go back to the time where Mamaboy is threatening to send Reaper Leviathans on Cummin's house or something?
This is a cake walk compared to some of the other messed up stuff they have to deal with. I know a guy that used to be a homicide detective. It messed him up, especially when it involved kids getting murdered.
@@StallionStudios1234 I'm not saying it's the worst crime ever, just that it's 'wild' and cringe
I don't believe a single word this woman says, I've known people like her my whole life. If she isn't in drama or some kind of chaos she isn't happy. Always has to have something happening to her.
Yeah. I’ve been around a few of these myself, there’s absolutely nothing you can do but avoid them like the plague. It’s always something catastrophic and they’re always super strong for powering through it and being a better person every time, while also being a perfect victim.
always gotta be the victim to justify how fucked up she is
God I had to deal with so many people like that in High School, so glad I don’t deal with anyone like that anymore
Reminds me of my ex, I remember when I opened up to her about being abused as a teen and she made it about her and I had to console her
The kind of woman lies even when telling the truth occasionally and accidentally
Camdan's first crime was posting cringe. That video with the teeth filter almost made me implode
Tom the typa guy to join a vampire/werewolf cult to meet "chicks"
The way Spencer is so nonchalant about having someone try to kill her is suspicious to me and every thing that happens to her is always at an 11 out of 10, every single thing that happens with her seems unnecessarily dramatic.
Those AI pics are terrible.
And somehow no evidence for an arrest.
The AI stock images were pretty distracting
@@themcrib7920 very strange looking indeed.
@@markg2514
There's literal points in her story when she's talking about showing people "evidence" or events that she had friends present for.
Why is she not showing us that "evidence" or having those supposed imaginary friends show up to tell us they actually did witness the things spencer says they did?
Yeah the AI pictures didn't need to be added
Biggest sign that Spencer is a habitual liar: in her stories she ALWAYS needs to be seen as a victim but she also always stresses how she outsmarted the people who ab used her and she always gets one over on them in the end. Sure, camdan was manipulative and cruel, but he was also a total pushover whom she beat up once he pushed her too far. Sure, the nurse in group home was mean, but Spencer owned her when she didn't know how to turn on a phone. If anyone has seen the case of Sherri papini, it's very similar to this. People like that need to be seen as victims to garner sympathy but they also want the admiration for being brave and standing up for themselves.
This is exactly my sentiment towards her story no matter what I’ve never seen someone talk so nonchalantly about their abuse and SA there is always some type of emotional response but her completely devoid of emotion
What do we really know about Camdan beyond what she has claimed? Nothing she says is believable, so why should we believe what she says about him?
And It is always an SA. Everyone she met that was male just SAed her. Like it feel like a bad lifetime movie where the female lead is is just a magnet and everything with a penis is evil. SA is serious and bull like this is what makes it so much harder for actual victims to come forward.
Yeah I felt that way too. I don’t wanna discredit SA victims but it feels like every interaction she had in her story lead to her being SA’d. It feels a little fishy. And they are just random people too, not Camden. It feels like she just wanted to be a general victim not get Camden caught.
BPD
Anybody else weirded out by how often they refer to each other by name in their text exchanges? It reads like wattpad dialogue.
that's because it is lmao i feel like 90% of this stuff happened over wattpad and what she's describing is actually her RP logs. especially the whole "i was able to dodge under him and then pick him up and throw him against a wall" part? like that reads like someone's fantasy RP battle scene or something lol
Funny enough Wattpad plays a role in this enduring clusterfuck. I'm about 59% certain a large amount of this BS either occured or was initiated on Wattpad. Because all that dialogue looks like bad fanfiction writing.
That many miscarriages in a span of months makes me thinking a good portion of this is made up
TLDW: only Spencer's words and no evidence.
basically
TLDW: MamaMax has never exposed a single predator and has faked his entire career
Longer TLDW: Max would be a perfect Republican candidate, as he's accused everyone else of things he does
TLDw: I have no idea what happened because I didn't watch.
@@tzvikrasner6073Why make it political?
If we were to believe Spencer then this whole thing was just a giant polyamorous relationship where teenage viampires and werewolfs got “pregnant” and SA’d each other each orher because they loved BBC and thought Leviathans were coming for them
I hate the way you explained but that sums Spencer's part of the Allegations up pretty well
Exactly.
As a black dude in Indiana, where every other obese white girl has some kinda drama with some bummy black man, I totally agree
It's like one of those weird ass werewolf fictions you get ads about on Facebook outta nowhere
@@steviebeevie It honestly reminds me of those kids in high-school that wear cat-tails/bunny ears and stand extremely close and rawr XD at each other
Vampires, werewolves, account managed by dead sister, witches....
Today, on My Story Animated...
Spencer sounds exactly like iilluminaughtii, lmao
Thought the same exact thing lol. They're both liars too.
Fat girl voice
similar bmi
Omg it is pretty similar
It's the fat girl voice.
The fact Spencer keeps bouncing from person to person while always being the victim is suspect
Yeah, and the whole “I didn’t think it was sexual assault until much later” is super sus to me too. She doesn’t seem like she has very much reliability as a narrator
She also managed to throw her abuser through a wall and admitted to luring victims...
@@mattlel3194Tbf many people don’t realize the piss poor education there.
@@mattlel3194When she said that, It made me realize she just read the most basic information about rape victims to make up her story. Its common for victims to not remember or not realize because the PTSD prevents them from seeing the trauma. The way she talked about it was absolutely not how it actually happens.
I bet she'll turn on MamaMax in the future as well
Favorite parts are the AI generated images and trying to figure out exactly which combination of “black dude” and “fat white girl” where used to create them
😂😂😂😂
lol
"black guy with two women by his side, smiling, blonde, brunette, canvas image, forest bg"
@@rowrat7014 dont forget "fat"
Haha so I wasn’t alone in that 😂
I like how she is responsible for connecting him to a underage girl and the only thing she has to say about that is how that makes HER feel. Thats about the only thing i believe in this. "Like literally"
Meanwhile saying some other girl is "accountable" and "must have known something was wrong" 😂
@@chloeep9329 that bugs me so much. she tries to paint the other girl as Ghislaine Maxwell and it's like "no bitch it's you!!!"
Well, these videos are about how "bad" someone was to her.
Don't get that confused with how someone was "bad" to people in general. ;)
...So Spencer lied, lied, and lied some more to the point when all of her house of cards built on lies massively fell on top of her. Smh.
Mamamax: "Where the fuck did all of my evidence go?!"
Spencer with a big evidence shaped belly: "*gulp* i don't know....."
edit: I didn't create this joke so don't think i'm this funny
☠️☠️☠️
ZAMN
Leviathans: AMBATUKAM!!!!
Ahh fat shaming, that’s totallyyy coolll Cecil
@@WillyNQ "muh heart disease"
There's two types of ppl attracted to a supernatural cult - those who believe in anything - and those who prey on ppl who believe in anything. I think both are equally represented in this case
Genuinely how stupid do you have to be to fall into any of this, I will never understand it
coming back after that 58:50 bit, this is the most batshit thing I have ever heard, like come on guys
@@michaelbelcher4096somewhere towards the end pretty well explains at least how it's possible.
These are a bunch of teenagers from messed up families living with untreated mental illnesses and/or emotional issues, looking for escapism.
Otherkin vamp-wolf "god" shows up on whatever they're browsing and offers them escapism via delusional nonsense via Tumblr Wattpad fanfic, but FOR REALS.
Then mix in the whole "better family" schtick and you can probably lure in people through "roleplaying" into your private Reddit/Discord harem, and all you need, via lessons from Tate and Ep est ein himself is to convince just one woman and get her hooked, then use her to lure in other women.
Which is more or less what she admits happened. She was convinced that he was her everything, so she'd do anything to keep him happy.
She's as much a victimizor as a victim.
There's grains of truth somewhere under all the fanfic Final Fantasy house dramatic nonsense, but it's hard to be sure exactly what any of it is, or how much of its not exaggerated, due to her being at best an unreliable narrator, and at worst a willing accomplice in the recruiting for the Supernatural wattpad fanfic "cult" and wanting to try to hide from owning up to her responsibility and culpability.
lmao fr like how can u be in high school believing all this shit lmao werewolfs, vampires how fucking stupid u gotta be to fall for this shit at 16
Depressed children do stupid shit but this is straight retarded
In fairness, there is no shortage of very stupid people on this planet.
Anyone that supposedly runs away to live with a werewolf supernatural family is already untrustworthy af
Spencer comes off as so disingenuous. Also, as a doctor, she absolutely did not have that many terminated pregnancies in that short a time frame and certainly not by vitamin c and cinnamon.
Couldn't the missed periods be explained by malnutrition mistaken for pregnancy? She is obviously disingenuous and this story is definitely fictionalized and over Dramatized but it seems at least partially rooted in reality
@@ZeroDim Yes, you can mess up your period if your diet becomes fucked which with the whole 'eating only saltines' thing, would be the culprit. I've NEVER heard of orange juice being s trigger for a miscarriage consider that vitamin C is something that is WELCOMED while you're pregnant and he was just making her drink ORANGE JUICE, not like....OD on vitamin C supplements or something.
@@ZeroDim If by "reality" you mean "A Wattpad story" then yes
but werewolf babies can be aborted with cinnamon. Sorry sweaty, but the facts are against ur doctorate
@@EighmyLupin rooted as in there is some truth in the story or it is based off of something that actually happened from what I can tell it seems like some of this did happen but it was a lot more tame than the Wattpad story Spencer and Max cooked up
Spencer being forced by Camden to work out sounds like a 90 day fiancé episode.😂😂
fishtank elimination challenge 😭😭😭
I don't see how forcing a baby elephant to work out is a horrible thing
made me chuckle
omg 🤣 Nicole and Azan/Twilight fanfic! Its brillant I tell you, brillant!
😂😂😂
Swinging a 60lb vase okay lmao. Throwing a 200lb man against the wall yeah.. I believe it
This woman is blatantly lying. This couldn't be more obvious
The way Spencer talks about all this seems more like chatting about a break up rather than talking about the dark topics of SA and miscarriage. There’s something so sketchy about her and everything she says. I’m sure that Camden is a creepy weirdo but Max and Spencer trying to turn this into a “huge pedo cult” is insane. Max is a narcissistic selfish weirdo and Spencer is a self righteous very suspicious individual.
She said she had 4 miscarriages on 4 months, that should be reason alone to not believe her.
@@Sheffdawg2305yeah that’s just not possible. It sounds like she’s trying to make everything sound extreme as possible - ie with the miscarriages thing or with how according to her everyone in the world was SAing her right left and centre
@@Sheffdawg2305ikr, it literally takes on average 6 weeks or longer after pregnancy to get your menstrual cycle back, it’s like astronomically not likely at all to get pregnant and miscarry 4 months in a row
@@jazg275Also she didn't even take a pregnancy test, which is how most people find out so early into pregnancy. She claimed she knew she was pregnant because she was very tired, hungry and I can't remember the other vague symptoms that could have been related to a hundred other common ailments.
and she also winked at Max every time she talked about her breaking up
Like- is she now Max's 5/6 girlfriend?
Imagine how this dude feels knowing someone tried outing and publically cancelling him only for the person exposing him to end up being absolutely cancelled, called out and exposed.
Camdan is OP ngl
He sent the leviathans 💀
the leviathans came 😈😈😈😈
@@victormurori4367this got me laughing my ass off lol - also the fkin leviathans bruh
He's probably laughing his ass off.
THE LEVIATHANS ARE COMING
TOOK ME OOOUUTTT LMAAAAOO
I’m sorry but as a person with no transporting in Dallas, nobody is letting you get a free mega bus ride 😭 They won’t even let you on Dart for free
Notice how Spencer never said HOW she convinced people to get free rides.
Like she's in a RPG and max out charisma or something
@@cosafea8722 Yes, very weird to include in your story. Those tickets are expensive, especially crossing state lines. There’s also a bunch of things that don’t make sense to me either like she is always mentioned when there is some sort of conflict in the group. I think she has a even bigger role than she lets on
@@cosafea8722 dice roll was over 8 so they had to let her on.
@@2knano992 interestingly she was accused of stealing money in the cult, one of the reasons she got booted, and then with mamamax she's handling the money and Kai couldn't afford eggs or diapers for her kid despite the money going to the victims. Maybe stealing money is a common thing for Spencer.
Self diagnosed miscarriages? Yeah, no, credibility shot right there.
It takes most women a month to a month and a half to learn they are pregnant and her timeline would suggest that she became pregnant the exact day she would physically be able too and magically knew within a span of a few weeks when symptoms usually havent even set in. Also I mean the degree of beatings you'd have to endure to miscarry from THAT early would leave substantial harm that would require medical attention. That and she admits she didnt know for sure and was being starved at the same time, and the whole spouting the vitamin c myth, she clearly either is lying outright to make her story sound more harrowing or she is still this stupid 7 years after she maybe thought it was true at the time.
Also her miscarrying at 3 months and not at all having medical complications from not seeing a doctor, after claiming shes had like 2 or 3 miscarriages already IS INSANE.
She was not pregnant. I refuse to believe a girl who claimed to miscarry 3 or 4 times, still does not realize miscarrying at 3 months means you need to see a doctor.
Miscarrying is not an oops not pregnant anymore ordeal, but she either knows that and is relying on other peoples lack of knowledge. Or she's fucking stupid.
I've never met anyone who self diagnosed a miscarriage before, because it's a lie most women of child bearing age can sus out with basic logic.
At this rate, girl probably thinks the vagina and urethra are the same goddamn thing.
Seems like a bunch of stupid kids got manipulated and is now airing out their dirty laundry
Miscarriages come with unusually large blood clots on dates outside of your period. Regardless, you can have an abnormal period due to stress factor. I think that she genuinely believes she miscarried, but cinammon and vitamin c definitely does not cause that.
My wife has had tubular pregnancy with twins and 2 other miscarriages that almost stopped us from continuing our endeavor of raising a human that hopefully doesn’t wait to long to turn at a yellow light and causes you to stress honk your horn after a long day . She was in pain both times and in major in lack of a male understanding of the situation ( discomfort ) ? Leading up to each issue she endured as I watched helplessly. There was signs we came to recognize and advice from the doctor about stress anxiety etc . They never in all the wisdom that was bestowed upon us warned us about doing the cinnamon challenge or doing communion with oranges . I think all women and even men that have had a pregnancy in a relationship heard what she said looked at each other and went 🤔 soooooo bullshit rt ?
@@dakotatotten5355 men that have had pregnancies? Dude I understand that you wanna be inclusive but to legitimately think you are the opposite sex is a mental illness and nothing more. Yes they can transition and be accepted by their friends and family but random people shouldn’t be ostracized for stating basic biology. Men don’t get periods men don’t have uterus’s and men can’t get pregnant because they are men and saying that “men” can get pregnant totally discredits what women have to go through and live with in relation to pregnancy. Use your head not your feelings
It's so fucked that real victims basically got their real story silenced by MamaMax. I know he didn't intend to fuck it up that bad, but it's so sad.
"if your a victim, don't go to mamamax"
"if you HAVE victims, make SURE they go to mamamax"
~Willymacshow
20 minutes in and I'm BEGGING for someone to take the microphone away from this woman
Getting a face tattoo before financial stability, housing, and a drivers license is wild. Seems like a responsible person to handle the gofundme made by a person with a large audience….
I mean who better to be in charge than someone who has made ALL the bad choices, right?
Now they know what to avoid.
Also, nevermind the fact that this person was apparently a longtime family acquaintance that you are now also able to milk for clicks. ;)
@@Toanleigh Max has also stated that they only 'met' for the first time when she reached out to him online as a fan of his channel. idk why that part is inconsistent. On the one hand her aunt is pals with max's mom, she went to school with his sister, on the other she chose max out of other youtubers bc she was a fan of his work and the way he "goes after" cases.....WHY IS THERE A DISCREPANCY THERE
Note that at no point was Max's claim that "Hundreds" of kids being enslaved ever happened, even if we believed Spencer 100%
Considering Max has been known to exaggerate stuff for the sake of "filmmaking", I doubt that's even true.
Camden was likely a creepy shty ex-bf, but doubt an actual cult-leader with a big following.
Thank you Mamamax for making this entire situation an entire comedy
@@ammagon4519 the fact mamamax intentionally mixed film making with situations he claimed were real is beyond me "the story's are fake but the prededtor and pursuit is very real" makes 0 sense.
Like what does that even mean? Is he muddling the waters to not get sued? Is he just a fool?
@@drewbakka5265 exactly, wth does he actually gain from purposefully fking up potential evidence for the investigation might use?
Oh yea...💸💸💸
@@drewbakka5265 probably a little bit of both
@@drewbakka5265I think what he meant by that is that the “Hotline Miami” style skits and the schizo editing were fake but the parts where he’s actually hunting people are real. Thing is, as Tom’s previous video showcases, not even some of those are real. Or, at least, it can be inferred that some of the hunts themselves were entirely staged. Likely so he could LARP as “le p3do hunter.”
She actually expects ppl to believe she had 4 miscarriages within months, can dead lift and throw a 200lbs man above her head, has 4 GF's that all want a love triangle with the Twilight larper, immediately gets SA'd by the first adult she comes into contact with in every state, can lie her way onto multiple buses that drive her outta city and state limits.
BRING THE ASYLUMS BACK
The one part that is believable is the love triangles with a larper. You wouldn't believe how weird/nerdy people get around. They're having more and kinkier sex than most 'normal' people.
Dont forget she was able to abort her own fetus with cinnamon and fucking orange juice. Who tf actually believes anything she says at this point? Jesus christ its hilariously stupid
The 4 pregnancies in 4 months is what got me. No pregnancy tests, and knew she was pregnant because she was sick and missed her period, so she'd need to be @ least a month into each one. Impossible! Wait a second... based on the # of pregnancies & the time span, it'd mean she didn't have her period to whole time. So how did she know it was multiple pregnancies & miscarriages, instead of one pregnancy & miscarriage?🤔
" immediately gets SA'd by the first adult she comes into contact with in every state,"
For real. My mom ran away from home and I always tell her how lucky she was she didn't get human trafficked by the bikers who picked her up. They treated her like she was an infant (she was super naive). I'm not saying you won't get SA'd if you're a young person on the streets, but EVERY DANG TIME? That's sus.
Yeah when a woman claims she's been SA'ed it should be looked into immediately as it should, but when a woman says she's been SA'ed by every single man she's ever come in contact with it should be clear that red flags are waving. And that the person isn't probably the most sane and rational person. The chances of you being SA'ed by every male encounter especially when you're 500 pounds of butter fat stuffed into a human sausage casing the chances of anyone SA'ing you in every start you visit is astronomically low. Like non existent.
Wanna join my cult? I’m half duck-bill platypus and armadillo. To join you have to bring me a box of double stuffed Oreo’s and pack of Marlboro’s. We believe that Amber Heard can turn in to Godzilla when she gets mildly annoyed and she is sent to destroy mankind. Oh yea, every Friday we play monopoly while wearing N’sync shirts. Oh yeah, you have to vote Kayne West for president. That’s non-negotiable damnit!
Honestly that sounds sick af. Sign me up!
@@yoboyfargoth1208 you are in! We are going to meet this weekend for an intense game of capture the flag, you gotta wear crocs tho. 🤣
hell yea
Blud reported on a Red dead redemption mystery side quest.
I can totally see Mamamax falsely copyright striking this video, even though it's exactly what he originally wanted: a large channel covering the details of this "cult". And this video manages to do what Mamamax couldn't accomplish over multiple confusing, cringy, convoluted videos spanning over 10 hours.
Peak irony if that happened
He won't he is not that petty
@@jessiescholten9119he probably will claim that this is what he wanted all along. making drama to make the story spread. all according to his plan. something like that. seeing his ego
I don't think he ever really wanted this to happen lol. I'm not even convinced mamamax believes all this shit to be honest with you.
I don't see him doing that. This is exactly what he wanted. A large channel doing the work for him.
I can see him being extremely critical of it because it probably makes him look even worse (I haven't watched the whole way through yet) and he might claim this video is victim blaming or defending Camden.
Spencer’s story reads like one of Onision’s shitty self insert novels. It’s incredulous. Not to mention that she says the officer she went to was Officer Fontana after she talks about being a fan of Law & Order. Joe Fontana is a character from Law & Order. Xylie pointed that out. I don’t trust Spencer.
Omg that's so fucking pathetic and kinda really funny?😭😭😭😭😭 what the fuck😭😭😭😭😭
holy shit i didn't know about her being a fan of law&order... yeah that's absolutely hilarious then if she was just ass-pulling the name from the character of det. fontana lmaooo
Oh shit good catch!
Don't forget that there is also an SVU episode about a werewolf/vampire cult too.
Sound like she reading a script
as someone who was sa'd, all this shit is a slap in the face. i will never understand why people lie about this. it is the most degrading thing that can happen to you, it takes away all your dignity, it makes you feel like a shell of yourself. you dont get anything good out of lying about sa, all ur doing at that point is hurting actual victims whose stories ur talking over :/
most people don't understand the impact of their actions on others, I hope you find peace some day with what happened to you it is unfortunate that people discredit credible cases like this
@@zogwort1522
Couldn't stop yourself from tipping your fedora?
@@zogwort1522 You are stating it as if your words are facts and that you're anything more than a pretentious retard oversimplifying a topic he has no understanding of nor has done any research on in depth. I'd be mighty surprised if any of what you said actually came from yourself and was not regurgitated from the various media figures you mindlessly follow, being no different from the people you criticize, smugly trying to move the subject to something you can intellectually jerk yourself off on, knowing that it will only get other idiots to mindlessly agree as any sincerely intelligent person would just not engage. Sadly, I am not intelligent enough for that.
@@zogwort1522 You are stating it as if your words are facts and that you're anything more than a pretentious [Medical term for low IQ that UA-cam filtered my comment over for some reason] oversimplifying a topic he has no understanding of nor has done any research on in depth. I'd be mighty surprised if any of what you said actually came from yourself and was not regurgitated from the various media figures you mindlessly follow, being no different from the people you criticize, smugly trying to move the subject to something you can intellectually jerk yourself off on, knowing that it will only get other idiots to mindlessly agree as any sincerely intelligent person would just not engage. Sadly, I am not intelligent enough for that.
@@zogwort1522 Either UA-cam is filtering the comment I was trying to write over meanie words or the way it updates is garbage as neither of my previous comments show up for me. Either way, you're severely uneducated on the subject yet write as if you are an arbiter of truth, and it's a frustrating display to say the least.
Girls, if someone calls you a leviathan you either slap them or leave
🤣
commentary community really just went "fine ill do it myself"
Several years from now when one of the actual victims gets justice Max will resurface screaming it was all because of his actions l
😂😂😂😂
@@sinjin8576Or he will resurface as one of the predators.
At least there are no "crimes against children" involved!🤔Just weired people who lied and abused each other...🙄
@@sinjin8576yup. great prediction. he’s about as deep as Mt. Everest
Max sat on this for 3 years. He didn't even bother pushing this to the law enforcement. Now we know why and Mutahar was right that they had nothing incriminating. Now he's going mental over this case which he is "contractually obligated" to take care of. He was truly way over his head. All this just to be seen as a ''hero''...
*contractually obligated by a text message/discord message to Spancer that he made with chatGPT
Max was never a hero. He was always a zero. A very cringe zero.
Max an hero'd his channel for this? Oof.
My god hearing the second half makes my brain hurt. Spencer makes little to no sense on so many levels. I still question how do you have 4 miscarriages in one year. It's not that easy to get repeat pregnant. And the fact that she controls the money for the case is a wtf. Then there is learning disabilities making you a mental 12 year old. I can't proscess this.
She's a werewolf vampire bro, her womb is on another level.
No lawyer, self-respecting or not, would touch this case with an 8-foot pole.
If there is something, which at this point I actually highly doubt, it´s now deeply buried in miles upon miles of lies, misinformation and unlikelihood.
If anything, Max and Spencer did Camdan´s job FOR him. And that is IF there is any truth to any of it.
Better call Saul, then.
"so then I single handedly deadlifted the minivan off that burning building full of orphans"
Sure lady
Because "adrenaline".
@@flanflan88 The extra miscarriages gave her power.
@@SuperCosmicMutantSquidlmao
@@SuperCosmicMutantSquid "I now have the strength of a grown woman and 4 little babies"
Easier to believe she threw a guy one time than consistently worked out
>talks about her friend being SA'd
>huge smile on her face.
>talks about her breaking up with her girlfriend
>winks at max.
yeah i was thinking if it's just me that she looks and sounds awfully happy throughout her explanation
@@localonionseller8556I don’t ever recall Spencer ever having a moment of genuine grief with what supposedly happened to her, she describes it like it was just something mildly wacko that happened
I believe this is a phenomenon that psychologists call "Duper's Delight". Duper's Delight is an emotional boost or thrill, that some people get when they successfully cheat or deceive another person or organization. The rush they enjoy can lead them to repeat their dishonesty, even when there's no reward other than the high itself
@@MarioGoatseand I just thought she was a bad liar and kind of a psycho.
bro this girl gets sa every 5 minutes bro
Police: so uh how many times did you get SA’d?
Spencer: 1,000,000
Police: Yeah I don’t believe you
She's a chronic liar and it's so obvious 😭😭😭😭🙏🙏🙏💯💯💯
She lives in Omegaverse fanfic land, where the morbidly obese weirdo with terrible hygiene who pisses in jars gets constantly SA'd because everyone finds her "soooooo irresistible" lmao
@@driadoewould not be surprised if some allegations come out against max himself in a year or so
This is like watching "The Crucible."
A full hour into this video, and I'm just now realizing that it's just a bunch of high school drama from the "weird kids" table in the lunchroom. Not the cool type of weird kids, either. Nay, the "weird-weird" kids. The ones that smell bad, you know.
They did so much damage to this "case", its unbelievable. Even if you give everyone involved the benefit of a doubt, and believe what they say without questioning if it is true, none of it makes sense at all. I get that they say they thought they were in a cult, and cults like to burry a lot of messed up stuff, but the way spencer always tells the story like she was always already with one foot out of the cult group and had the morale high ground she never called the cops or did literally anything? The mom never noticed anything? Really? My parents could sense dirty laundry from the other side of the continent, but they dont notice a PERSON, with a piss jar and hasnt showered in days? Wouldnt the neighbors or the parents wonder why the side of their house smells like piss?
Did she not have to crap too? Was she doing that in jars? Like it's been a while since I've lived with my parents since going to college but I could even tell by the smallest noises how many people were in the house or who when my neighbors had guests over in the dorms. Camden also had a brother, did he not know that girl was living there?
@@markg2514Dear god, we don't need to think that. Spencer's ramblings is enough.
Did you not know? Vampires lose their sense of smell when they turn. They probably couldn't smell the Day old urine.
They didn't notice "hundreds upon hundreds upon hundreds" of persons all of which, presumably, piss in jars.
I could buy her story if it was like a huge house or at the very least 2 story so there's some distance, but this was a single story 3 bedroom house by Spencer's testimony in the Muta convo. There's just 0% chance her telling of the story is completely honest. Something is either being lied about or withheld.
The ai images make this unbearably goofy
So she got SA'd, stayed with him, got him more girls to SA, and kept going with it for awhile, posted about it, believed she was a werewolf.. and a vampire? Has absolutely no evidence... and supposedly got pregnant 3 times...
Part of me feels like Spencer either is lying, or isn't innocent.
She led girls to him, had plenty of times to contact somebody, it really does make you wonder what made her change her mind.
i feel like when a story that spans a period of time that far back (10-ish years almost?) and the person telling it can recall such minor details about the weirdest shit, it's a bit suspicious... nevermind the fact that going by memory alone is risky enough, but when you're inserting as much detail as she did into the story it sounds more like embellishment for the sake of sounding "serious" or "legit" enough rather than a factual issue