Yes ideally something dark like a smartphone with gorilla glass. The S95C coating was pretty good although not resiliant like gorilla glass it is very dark black looking unless you shine a really bright light up close on it and then you see its deep red. +1 for glassy glossy though for sure!
You can tell this guy does not know how to clean a monitor. My 271QRX looks brand new and Ive wiped it with a damp dishrag (cloth or whatever you call it in the states) making sure its a flat surface, you have to do it over and over again gently until all the tiny smear dots you display in your video vaporate thanks to the air. At first you'll have lots, you'll even have long streaks. But let it air dry, go again, let it air dry, go again until the cloth is no longer as damp and the monitor starts to look brand new. Oh yeah always go the same direction each time. This video is a bit of a clickbait. But then again this guy is ALL clickbait on his other channel. Ive had the monitor since it came out.
You gotta give it to him for trying (and failing) to film any actual microscratching. In any event, calling out manufacturers like he does is appreciated.
Yeah not really. My fo32u2p got pretty much ruined by microfiber cloth and like 80% ethanol (are whatever is the officially recommended concentration). It's quite scratched up really. Not unusable but you can definitely see it in daylight. Considering the price of that monitor I find this kinda unacceptable.
I'm sorry to say this but cleaning your monitor with microfiber cloth is wrong, use microfiber silk lens clothes (the same one you would use to clean your glasses with) and you will never have scatches, i've ben using my QD Oled for 2 years cleaned alot and not a single scratch. i recommend using 2 of those clothes by the way 1 wet the other to dry it.
@@superbn0vait leaves visible marks/stains everywhere after cleaning unlike with a normal monitor where you won't see any. Happens on my 1440p MSI QDOLED. I'm looking into buying pecpads to clean it with...
Also a lot of reflections , and honestly there is a better option ( Saphire Glass way better clarity ) but again all these glossy solutions are only good at night without light . Matte Antireflective coating is the only option if u want to use your Monitor all day .
My PG32UCDM looks identical to the day I pulled it out of the box. Don’t touch the glass, don’t spit on it, and if you need to wipe anything off use a magic fiber cloth from Amazon with only your breath for moisture. Still spotless seven months later!
Went from a qd Alienware to a lg ultragear and dont miss the gloss coating it was horrible to clean the woled doesn't seem like its lacking in color or brightness to me in games
all oled's have some drawbacks/quirks, buy it is the benefits are worth it for you. i had qdoled and woled, matte and glossy. they all cost a lot so they are not a good value product, it is a luxury thing if you have money to spend.
@@sudd3660 It's not about the money for me, I just don't tend to replace things that often. My current monitor was bought around 15 years ago. I don't want to be pissed for the next 15 years by making a poor choice...
If you are looking to get any OLED monitor with high refresh rates, I would suggest getting only the Philips Evnia (I have the Alienware one right now and Evnia is much better). Otherwise wait a year or so for the new panels with the magenta backing to be less apparent (because this sucks a$$).
What I never hear commented on is what constitutes a "bright" room. Are we talking about a moonroof in Alaska bright, or a standard 60w/800 lumens overhead light?. It seems like anthing above a candle is considered too bright for a QD.
I had the MSI OLED, cleaned it once got scratched, sent it back got the Samsung 32 oled monitor has a Matt qd-oled but cleaned it few times now not a single mark, it’s a compromise on image clarity but getting a far better experience and longevity, then having a scratched screen after a few days.
My only complaint with the Asus PG32UCDM is the screen coating. My LG C2 never had that issue. Likely going to upgrade to the LG C5 when that releases.
Sadly this is an issue with nearly all monitors. Why we make all monitors with the softest of plastics, I will never understand. I still have two matte displays and I try to avoid cleaning them and just use a brush to wipe dust off, because any time you actually try, you'll leave marks.
You're losing out on picture quality and potentially ruining the heat dissipation of your monitor. Make sure it's ok to leave that on.... my specific model of qd oled (msi271qpx) has issues when you don't take that stuff off. Overheating and burn-in ad a result. Be careful.
I dont know how people are getting their glossy screens messed up. I use clean microfiber to clean my qd oled samsung G9 49". I had it over a year and not a single scratch looked under the spotlight. Also testing dead pixels and burns ins checks every few weeks. Nothing absolutely nothing so far not even a hint of that. Been gaming every day and watching videos average 6-10 hours.
@@mklaudijus Could be. I have used clean micro cloth on my car windscreen cleaning years. Never even one scratch IF its clean and only used after washing and only on windows not elsewhere.
After 2 years of using QD-OLED: Yes, keeping it clean was a chore, but it was the screen burn-in that appeared after a year that made me ditch it. OLED is fine for a TV, but a horrible idea for PCs. All I want for Christmas is that ultrawide mini LED...
2600 hours on my gigabyte FO27Q3, it has a few scratches I can see when shining my phone flashlight on it despite following samsung's own cleaning instructions for the panel, but nothing visible under normal conditions yet.
Makes me wonder why glass screen protection isn't a thing on modern TV's and monitors.. back in the day old TV's had glass over the front, so cleaning was pretty simple. Our phones these days are also glass. Where's the glass protection for our multi thousand dollar TV's and Monitors?...
In terms of contrast, sharpness and overall image quality it will probably never match glossy, it's by design. But for everything else it's indeed better
I dont see alot of difference i have both here now lgs and msi. Only thing is i have to turn the brightness setting in games with hdr higher on the woled to reach same picture. But the black on the qd-oled is bad, u lose alot of detail in dark scenes even with low ambilight.@@retrofizz727
Samsung should make a gorilla Glass QD OLED with their anti-reflective glossy coating that they put on their Galaxy s24 ultra phones that stuff's amazing still glossy yet not reflective
I really hate that coating on my S24u. It does do a great job of diffusing a light source, but it has horrible off angle viewing (very dim), and it's skews colors when even slightly off angle (desaturates the image).
The ONE thing I hate about QD-OLED, and I know it’s an OCD thing, is that purple/pink screen it has. I feel like Matte coating makes it less notable to me tho
It's not an OCD thing. It's very noticeable when watching movies with a lot of black. I have the Alienware monitor from this video, and comparing it with Evnia the difference is night and day, Evnia being the much better one. I never had to decide whether to watch movies during the day with the Evnia but with the Alienware, I just can't do anything requiring black blacks during the day. Had to return the Evnia because I moved.
On that i agree with you mostly because of reliability although now they rolled out gen 3 panels if i am not mistaken which claim the same. QD-OLED colours are way better but the LG ones are a blast as well. Finally LG doesn't roll up firmwares that ruin your monitor or tv for that matter!
@leonidasdestoleo2761 I don't know about gen 3, it's hard for your average consumer to figure out what exactly is in a tv. At least in my place in the world, for oled you've got the option of Sony, LG or Samsung. I won't touch Samsung till they support chromecast. Sony are way overpriced (as are Samsung). Unless money means nothing I tend to think LG is it.
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It's NOT blown out of proportion! I had LG oled TVs as monitors since the 48 inch release then 42. I have 2 different QDOLED monitors now and the surface of them is a DISASTER need special monitor oled cleaner plus microfiber cloth , ALL other screens including WOLED isopropyl alcohol is the best but DO NOT use isopropyl on QD OLED !
Between this and the magenta tint, I could never daily drive a QD-OLED. I tried, but even in a dimly lit room it's just so bad compared to a matte WOLED.
solution... NEVER touch the screen.. Never wipe the screen.. ONLY use a dry swifter duster and just lightly brush it over to get the dust... and you'll keep the screen like new
Yes ideally something dark like a smartphone with gorilla glass. The S95C coating was pretty good although not resiliant like gorilla glass it is very dark black looking unless you shine a really bright light up close on it and then you see its deep red. +1 for glassy glossy though for sure!
had a terrible experience with qd oled , text fringing migraines and eye strain . On top of that the image quality improvement wasn't that great especially for the extra 400$ price . Going back to ips was a total relief. Only worth for 55''+ inches tv you will notice a huge difference there
just my opinion here, if you are using paper towels to clean the glossy surface, huge mistake. made from wood fibers, will quickly ruin that glossy surface. microfiber, as suggested in the video, is the way to go.
Recently bought a Samsung 32 odyssey g80sd for half the price here in Sweden. A computer retail store opened up a new shop and had some very nice discounts. (9000 kr, roughly 700 $). But my issue with it isn´t cleaning. A proper micro fiber cloth and some monitor spray solves that. No my issue is more of the SDR brightness or the lack of it. It´s quite dim. The HDR once calibrated is good but the SDR is lacking.
The S95D has 350 Nits at 100% window size, the G80SD only has 250 nits. I suspect the S95D has a better passive cooling to get 350 nits of brightness. Though in the evening I dont mind the 250 nits of the G80SD, i find IT bright enough
@@gregordeissler2094 I have both and and I can clearly say that the S95D is far brighter in both SDR and HDR. G80SD is dim in SDR. If it works for you then I am happy for you.
check out the Qd oled display on the razer blade 16 2024!!! it has gorilla glass eliminates all these issues but on a laptop screen .. hopefully next years models then
I have both Msi qd and lgs 32gs95 here now.... And i dont see alot of "better colors" on the qd-oled 😢 I dont get it why so much peopels say qd colors are better, its nearly the same.... also its not washed out bc of the matte finish. The black on the qd-oled is bad, even with low ambilight. Its only a true black in a completely dark room. And u lose alot of fine detail, bc of the reflection and purple color. Only the hdr brightness seems a bit better on the qd-oled, with the same ingame brightness settings, so i have to turn the woled higher.
You forgot the dominant blue light energy emitting through the panel, the low light quality (CRI) giving harsh and sterile cartoony colours, and of course the subpixel layout making text and finer details a mess. Also the motion still isn't up to plasma standards let alone CRT 🤭
I have the Alienware monitor that you are showing right now with me, but I had the Philips Evnia before (which I returned because I had to move out). But I can say hands down the Evnia had a MUCH lesser magenta/purple tinting issue when in broad daylight. I would get the Evnia anyday over the Alienware, but I couldn't buy it again once I moved. That non-black background in day light sucks a$$. Literally cannot watch movies during the day. Even at night with lights on it is still visible. So, I have to turn off all the lights to then enjoy movies.
I'd be willing to pay around an additional 100-150 for Samsung to just make a version with Corning Gorilla Glass on the monitor instead of one of the normal plastic glossy coatings.
I have never preferred. Anti-glare matte coateds I've always liked glossy and for almost 2 years I've been using a LG 42-in C2 TV. That's my gaming computer monitor. I wish LG would also come out with some glossy monitors and OLED. I want the 39 or 40 in 21x9 with glossy coating
It's visible only on Windows. It's the way Windows drivers interact with these monitors. I have had zero issues with my Macs over thunderbolt/displayport. And everyone knows windows is dog$hit.
@@SahilP2648i have an msi271qpx. I do not notice any fringing at all unless I scrunch my face up next to the monitor and strain my eyes. Only then can i see the fringing.
You can tell this guy does not know how to clean a monitor. My 271QRX looks brand new and Ive wiped it with a damp dishrag (cloth or whatever you call it in the states) making sure its a flat surface, you have to do it over and over again gently until all the tiny smear dots you display in your video vaporate thanks to the air. At first you'll have lots, you'll even have long streaks. But let it air dry, go again, let it air dry, go again until the cloth is no longer as damp and the monitor starts to look brand new. Oh yeah always go the same direction each time. This video is a bit of a clickbait. But then again this guy is ALL clickbait on his other channel. Ive had the monitor since it came out.
Interesting. Since setting my 271QRX up I've only lightly wiped away dust with a large microfibre towel and had zero issues or scratching. Just don't touch the monitor - it's not touchscreen anyway.
OH MY FUCKING GOD, took him at least a minute to get to the point! I swear, so many of these youtubers just try to increase the run time on their videos: listening to them recite things that EVERYONE knows in a nasally, whimsical tone feels like a DRILL to the eardrums... UUUUGGGHHHHHH....
How do you scratch a monitor? 🤔 I mean, it's not like you even move it or anything like that. Dust and fingerprint sure, forever nemesis of display but scratch the monitor? I never heard of any instance that somebody scratched their monitor because of regulare use ???
Ive had a qd oled alienware for 6 months. No issues. Keep your nasty hands off the screens and when you have to sneeze look to your side. This alone will keep the need to clean it way down. And when you do need to clean lt. Clean it properly and you shouldn't have any issues.
Lol. I always get a kick out of anyone in any comments saying anything like "Well I do X and I don't have an issue at all". Ya'll remind me of the one person who comments in a troubleshooting thread saying you're not having any problem. These coatings ARE exceptionally hard to clean because they're innately made of a more fragile material. I just made a thread losing my shit about this problem and when people started posting all the links to manufacturers instruction for the SAME type of panel across their monitors, none of them were consistent. This goes to show that not even manufacturers are 100% aware on how to clean these. Microfiber + Distilled water + circular movement is the copy/paste method a lot of people suggest, but it just doesn't work for me. I have a completely brand new pack of microfibers with only a cut in the package to pull out new towels. Looks like absolute trash. These coatings are so sensitive, that the pressure from my hand stopping the circular wiping pattern will leave a slight pattern of the moist microfiber itself on the monitor - not to mention all the streaking. I then need to take a dry microfiber to get rid of streaks. Shit takes like 7 minutes, and it's completely aids. I've overly sensitive to shit occluding my vision though. I'm the same way with my glasses. They're spotless. The ONLY thing that has worked for me is 2:1 distilled water to 90% alcohol (70% dilution ratio) and wiping in STRAIGHT lines edge to edge and off the monitor. Ironic considering everyone says not to use alcohol which, yes, I'd recommend not using. However, in my case, its the only method that removes streaks. As long as alcohol doesn't sit in one spot and dry out (similar to hard water etching a stainless steel pan), then it won't damage the coating.
its pretty easy to clean..just use baby wet wipes and wipe it across the screen , and then use a dry tissue and gently wipe it dry . it will look sleek and clean
why is it seemingly so easy to get phone screens right vs everything else, ever since having a 23" touch pc I can't fucking stand these matte mudcoats, now you're telling me my saving grace is plastic? just because? saving 20$ on a THOUSAND DOLLAR product? ffs
displays guys solution to the problem: Invent some kind of coating, that makes it more resistant to scratches and helps with the magenta issue.... brother they already did, its called matt. You like glossy, it looks better, i agree. But these are the tradeoffs, if their was a new coating that magically fixed all these issues and didnt impact image quality at all, matt wouldnt exist lol.
Only problem I see with these oled panels are flickering issue. Didn't push the trigger and bought Alienware qd-oled ultrawide monitor just because of this.
Then check your eyes. This isn’t really a subjective topic. The magenta issue is extremely annoying and noticeable in bright rooms and this is coming from a PG32UCDM user.
The magenta tint is such a nothing burger. Its not visible when the monitor is in use, and who cares if it has a purple tint when switched off. I dunno. In terms of cleaning. I'm trying to keep the peel-off film that came with the monitor on the screen for as long as possible! I only just recently got mine 2 weeks ago.
Nope it is very much noticeable when watching movies. But it differs monitor to monitor. My Alienware one is worse than the Evnia (I had the Evnia before but I returned it since I had to move, then I got the Alienware instead because Evnia wasn't available in my new location).
What market speculation with these OLEDs and assembled with little protection, if they want to sell them they should bring the prices to normal, instead of worrying about planned obsolescence🔔💬
think ill save up for asus rog swift pro pg248qp TNNNN Now i use the Asus Tuf vg258qm 280hz TN i actually really like these TN panels in Vivid mode. Also have a Alienware 2720hfs 240 ips panel. With VSR this screen looks amazing to but its just not as fast in Online fps titles. I guess in games like call of duty internet is more important than your screen haha. laggie game. might have to fix a new router. haha desktop is on cable but anytime i go on laptop wifi massive lagggggg.
FINALLY someone talks about this! 100% a HUGE issue. I have owned 2 QD OLED monitors and 1 QD OLED TV and they are literally impossible to clean even if you are freakishly careful. I returned my ASUS QD OLED just because of this issue. Yes matte sucks but at least it is durable. QD OLED screen simply do not use glass on the front because of the nature of QD OLED, I’ve read it could cause “color impurities” so they opt not to protect them. I’m staying away from QD just because of this. I don’t care what anyone says, after buying 3 of them and all getting scratched and blemishes when cleaning very carefully with a new microfiber cloth, I’m done. LG G3 83 inch I have is a tank because it has GLASS.
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First gen 34 ultrawide Odyssey Oled is glossy 😊
You do realize that is not actually a fiber optic cable, right?
Yes ideally something dark like a smartphone with gorilla glass. The S95C coating was pretty good although not resiliant like gorilla glass it is very dark black looking unless you shine a really bright light up close on it and then you see its deep red. +1 for glassy glossy though for sure!
TLDR : Glossy displays are accidentally turning matte trololololololo
LMAO 😂😂
But I think it's actually the other way around, they lose antireflective properties in the affected areas, light transmitance still good.
You can tell this guy does not know how to clean a monitor. My 271QRX looks brand new and Ive wiped it with a damp dishrag (cloth or whatever you call it in the states) making sure its a flat surface, you have to do it over and over again gently until all the tiny smear dots you display in your video vaporate thanks to the air. At first you'll have lots, you'll even have long streaks. But let it air dry, go again, let it air dry, go again until the cloth is no longer as damp and the monitor starts to look brand new. Oh yeah always go the same direction each time.
This video is a bit of a clickbait. But then again this guy is ALL clickbait on his other channel.
Ive had the monitor since it came out.
Never underestimate this guy’s ability of blowing a problem way out of proportion
You gotta give it to him for trying (and failing) to film any actual microscratching. In any event, calling out manufacturers like he does is appreciated.
You'd be surprised how bad it actually is when you try to clean these monitors.
@@superior96ive been using the cv until my goldilox monitor releases, snd ive cleaned it three times in a year and its scratched as a motherfucker
Yeah not really. My fo32u2p got pretty much ruined by microfiber cloth and like 80% ethanol (are whatever is the officially recommended concentration). It's quite scratched up really. Not unusable but you can definitely see it in daylight. Considering the price of that monitor I find this kinda unacceptable.
For contrast my woled tv doesn't have this issue at all and I have definitely been less careful with it.
I'm sorry to say this but cleaning your monitor with microfiber cloth is wrong, use microfiber silk lens clothes (the same one you would use to clean your glasses with)
and you will never have scatches, i've ben using my QD Oled for 2 years cleaned alot and not a single scratch.
i recommend using 2 of those clothes by the way 1 wet the other to dry it.
where do you buy my bro?
@@George-um2vc have you heard of Amazon?
How much did you pay for it ❔ 💵
interesting, thank you.
@@George-um2vc you can buy these where you get glasses :)
Yeah my MSI 32' is really annoying to clean, hoping for better glass in future
How is it?
How much did you pay for it ❔ 💵
Why is it annoying to clean?
@@superbn0vait leaves visible marks/stains everywhere after cleaning unlike with a normal monitor where you won't see any. Happens on my 1440p MSI QDOLED. I'm looking into buying pecpads to clean it with...
@@superbn0vabecause i scratches by only looking at it
Gorilla glass is the future, has to happen
Also a lot of reflections , and honestly there is a better option ( Saphire Glass way better clarity ) but again all these glossy solutions are only good at night without light . Matte Antireflective coating is the only option if u want to use your Monitor all day .
@@Tripokaridos22sapphire glass? 😂😂 bro wants to pay $5k for a monitor
I remember a lot of people complaining that their cats scratched the heck out of their new QD OLED's when they first came out. Another danger.
YES! I noticed mine was very hard to clean compared to other monitors. You get used to it, but it is a bit of a pain.
My PG32UCDM looks identical to the day I pulled it out of the box.
Don’t touch the glass, don’t spit on it, and if you need to wipe anything off use a magic fiber cloth from Amazon with only your breath for moisture. Still spotless seven months later!
you ended up keeping it? teach me your wife taming secrets
@ It’s too good to have returned it.
@@andrewmorris3479 well .. i returned my after 1 day.. the PG32UCDM is nothing Special.
Atta boy
Im so high right now, I wonder why the fuck I spent 4 minutes watching an AD, lmao
Same.
😂
maybe you won't know you did in the morning
Same
great videos brother! any advice on what monitor for a 4090? I really like the idea of the lg c4 42". big juicy
Went from a qd Alienware to a lg ultragear and dont miss the gloss coating it was horrible to clean the woled doesn't seem like its lacking in color or brightness to me in games
Having a fairly soft drafting brush is useful to keep these screens clean.
Was about to purchase a monitor today, this took away all my enthusiasm lol
all oled's have some drawbacks/quirks, buy it is the benefits are worth it for you.
i had qdoled and woled, matte and glossy. they all cost a lot so they are not a good value product, it is a luxury thing if you have money to spend.
@@sudd3660 It's not about the money for me, I just don't tend to replace things that often. My current monitor was bought around 15 years ago. I don't want to be pissed for the next 15 years by making a poor choice...
If you are looking to get any OLED monitor with high refresh rates, I would suggest getting only the Philips Evnia (I have the Alienware one right now and Evnia is much better). Otherwise wait a year or so for the new panels with the magenta backing to be less apparent (because this sucks a$$).
@@SahilP2648 What is it about Evnia that you prefer?
What I never hear commented on is what constitutes a "bright" room. Are we talking about a moonroof in Alaska bright, or a standard 60w/800 lumens overhead light?. It seems like anthing above a candle is considered too bright for a QD.
I had the MSI OLED, cleaned it once got scratched, sent it back got the Samsung 32 oled monitor has a Matt qd-oled but cleaned it few times now not a single mark, it’s a compromise on image clarity but getting a far better experience and longevity, then having a scratched screen after a few days.
My only complaint with the Asus PG32UCDM is the screen coating. My LG C2 never had that issue. Likely going to upgrade to the LG C5 when that releases.
Sadly this is an issue with nearly all monitors. Why we make all monitors with the softest of plastics, I will never understand. I still have two matte displays and I try to avoid cleaning them and just use a brush to wipe dust off, because any time you actually try, you'll leave marks.
The only reason is because its cheaper to source and manufacture.
I literally still have the plastic shield on my monitor 2 months in. It will be staying there until I'm confident how to clean it.
You're losing out on picture quality and potentially ruining the heat dissipation of your monitor. Make sure it's ok to leave that on.... my specific model of qd oled (msi271qpx) has issues when you don't take that stuff off. Overheating and burn-in ad a result. Be careful.
I dont know how people are getting their glossy screens messed up. I use clean microfiber to clean my qd oled samsung G9 49". I had it over a year and not a single scratch looked under the spotlight. Also testing dead pixels and burns ins checks every few weeks. Nothing absolutely nothing so far not even a hint of that. Been gaming every day and watching videos average 6-10 hours.
I assume they press cloth too hard, and also its better clean in vertical or horisontal lines never clean in circles
@@mklaudijus Could be. I have used clean micro cloth on my car windscreen cleaning years. Never even one scratch IF its clean and only used after washing and only on windows not elsewhere.
After 2 years of using QD-OLED: Yes, keeping it clean was a chore, but it was the screen burn-in that appeared after a year that made me ditch it.
OLED is fine for a TV, but a horrible idea for PCs.
All I want for Christmas is that ultrawide mini LED...
No, I don't like QD-OLED. IPS FTW
2600 hours on my gigabyte FO27Q3, it has a few scratches I can see when shining my phone flashlight on it despite following samsung's own cleaning instructions for the panel, but nothing visible under normal conditions yet.
The biggest problem with glossy QD-Oled is that it creates eye strain because of reflections...
So the one you showed wasn't yours ? Had mine for 2 and a half years and not a mark on it.
Question: some screens come with a protective film after you unbox them, what if you leave it on? Will it affect the picture quality?
it's dangerous since the screen gets rrally hot it can leave some glue in the screen
Makes me wonder why glass screen protection isn't a thing on modern TV's and monitors.. back in the day old TV's had glass over the front, so cleaning was pretty simple. Our phones these days are also glass. Where's the glass protection for our multi thousand dollar TV's and Monitors?...
i gotta say, new OLED monitors with matte are actually really different than old mattes, its actually better than Glossy imo
In terms of contrast, sharpness and overall image quality it will probably never match glossy, it's by design. But for everything else it's indeed better
I dont see alot of difference i have both here now lgs and msi.
Only thing is i have to turn the brightness setting in games with hdr higher on the woled to reach same picture.
But the black on the qd-oled is bad, u lose alot of detail in dark scenes even with low ambilight.@@retrofizz727
Na glossy is so much better, unless you're eyes aren't good enough to notice it.
Woled is still king. They don’t lose their brightness like qd-oled.
Samsung should make a gorilla Glass QD OLED with their anti-reflective glossy coating that they put on their Galaxy s24 ultra phones that stuff's amazing still glossy yet not reflective
I really hate that coating on my S24u. It does do a great job of diffusing a light source, but it has horrible off angle viewing (very dim), and it's skews colors when even slightly off angle (desaturates the image).
Just gorilla glass...
The ONE thing I hate about QD-OLED, and I know it’s an OCD thing, is that purple/pink screen it has. I feel like Matte coating makes it less notable to me tho
It's not an OCD thing. It's very noticeable when watching movies with a lot of black. I have the Alienware monitor from this video, and comparing it with Evnia the difference is night and day, Evnia being the much better one. I never had to decide whether to watch movies during the day with the Evnia but with the Alienware, I just can't do anything requiring black blacks during the day. Had to return the Evnia because I moved.
I think woled is better, especially for computer monitors
On that i agree with you mostly because of reliability although now they rolled out gen 3 panels if i am not mistaken which claim the same. QD-OLED colours are way better but the LG ones are a blast as well. Finally LG doesn't roll up firmwares that ruin your monitor or tv for that matter!
@leonidasdestoleo2761 I don't know about gen 3, it's hard for your average consumer to figure out what exactly is in a tv. At least in my place in the world, for oled you've got the option of Sony, LG or Samsung. I won't touch Samsung till they support chromecast. Sony are way overpriced (as are Samsung). Unless money means nothing I tend to think LG is it.
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ΥΓ: Μακριά από Samsung!!! Όσες φορές έκανα το λάθος να πάρω χτυπούσα το κεφάλι μου στον τοίχο με εξαίρεση ένα qd - oled monitor που τρώγεται κάπως αν μη τι άλλο...
Would a gorilla glass affect the screen brightness?
Yeah my qdoled definitely shows when the screen isn’t clean. I clean it with eye glass cleaner with great success.
It's NOT blown out of proportion! I had LG oled TVs as monitors since the 48 inch release then 42. I have 2 different QDOLED monitors now and the surface of them is a DISASTER need special monitor oled cleaner plus microfiber cloth , ALL other screens including WOLED isopropyl alcohol is the best but DO NOT use isopropyl on QD OLED !
What happens to alcohol qd oled?
What monitors you have? Is this scratchable display problem also issue for the new 32" 4K QD Oled?
Between this and the magenta tint, I could never daily drive a QD-OLED. I tried, but even in a dimly lit room it's just so bad compared to a matte WOLED.
These OLEDs, for the prices they are charging, should have glass fronts
solution... NEVER touch the screen.. Never wipe the screen.. ONLY use a dry swifter duster and just lightly brush it over to get the dust... and you'll keep the screen like new
Yes ideally something dark like a smartphone with gorilla glass. The S95C coating was pretty good although not resiliant like gorilla glass it is very dark black looking unless you shine a really bright light up close on it and then you see its deep red. +1 for glassy glossy though for sure!
Taking care of a monitor in 2024 be tougher than taking care of a kid lmao
had a terrible experience with qd oled , text fringing migraines and eye strain . On top of that the image quality improvement wasn't that great especially for the extra 400$ price . Going back to ips was a total relief. Only worth for 55''+ inches tv you will notice a huge difference there
The visual upgrade was worth it to me for sure. Not sure how anybody could go back from getting true blacks.
just my opinion here, if you are using paper towels to clean the glossy surface, huge mistake. made from wood fibers, will quickly ruin that glossy surface. microfiber, as suggested in the video, is the way to go.
There's a reason why all the oled tvs have glass fronts
Recently bought a Samsung 32 odyssey g80sd for half the price here in Sweden. A computer retail store opened up a new shop and had some very nice discounts. (9000 kr, roughly 700 $). But my issue with it isn´t cleaning. A proper micro fiber cloth and some monitor spray solves that. No my issue is more of the SDR brightness or the lack of it. It´s quite dim. The HDR once calibrated is good but the SDR is lacking.
SDR content will always be dim on an OLED, if your consuming purely SD content most of the time an OLED was the wrong choice
@@SamuraiSupreme My Samsung S95D begs to differ. But as for monitors you seem to be right at the moment.
The S95D has 350 Nits at 100% window size, the G80SD only has 250 nits. I suspect the S95D has a better passive cooling to get 350 nits of brightness. Though in the evening I dont mind the 250 nits of the G80SD, i find IT bright enough
@@gregordeissler2094 I have both and and I can clearly say that the S95D is far brighter in both SDR and HDR. G80SD is dim in SDR. If it works for you then I am happy for you.
Literally clean my Alienware qdoled with face cloth and tap water, no scratches or weird discoloration
check out the Qd oled display on the razer blade 16 2024!!! it has gorilla glass eliminates all these issues but on a laptop screen .. hopefully next years models then
What about the cloth I received inside the box of my aw3225qf?
I have both Msi qd and lgs 32gs95 here now....
And i dont see alot of "better colors" on the qd-oled 😢
I dont get it why so much peopels say qd colors are better, its nearly the same.... also its not washed out bc of the matte finish.
The black on the qd-oled is bad, even with low ambilight.
Its only a true black in a completely dark room.
And u lose alot of fine detail, bc of the reflection and purple color.
Only the hdr brightness seems a bit better on the qd-oled, with the same ingame brightness settings, so i have to turn the woled higher.
If you view text on your monitor, surely Woled is better
You forgot the dominant blue light energy emitting through the panel, the low light quality (CRI) giving harsh and sterile cartoony colours, and of course the subpixel layout making text and finer details a mess. Also the motion still isn't up to plasma standards let alone CRT 🤭
At first i thought your QD-OLED hyping was shilling but then i realised it's just coping lel
I have the Alienware monitor that you are showing right now with me, but I had the Philips Evnia before (which I returned because I had to move out). But I can say hands down the Evnia had a MUCH lesser magenta/purple tinting issue when in broad daylight. I would get the Evnia anyday over the Alienware, but I couldn't buy it again once I moved. That non-black background in day light sucks a$$. Literally cannot watch movies during the day. Even at night with lights on it is still visible. So, I have to turn off all the lights to then enjoy movies.
Bought the G60SD OLED Matte for $450 USD and this video trashed on the coating so hard lol
What is the vrr flicker issue that rtings mention in every of their qdoled reviews
I use new microfibre clothes each time, you get a big seales package of the for like 10 buckw, distilled water just enough to make the rag damp.
I'd be willing to pay around an additional 100-150 for Samsung to just make a version with Corning Gorilla Glass on the monitor instead of one of the normal plastic glossy coatings.
Wtf man.This is a major flaw that no one talked about!
I need a video please, someone help me Glossy displays vs matte displays. What is better
I have never preferred. Anti-glare matte coateds I've always liked glossy and for almost 2 years I've been using a LG 42-in C2 TV. That's my gaming computer monitor. I wish LG would also come out with some glossy monitors and OLED. I want the 39 or 40 in 21x9 with glossy coating
The big issue for me - pixel structure. The fringing effect 😢
you get used to it, but it almost disappears in high ppi monitors. 1440p is not exactly enough ppi above 26"
It's visible only on Windows. It's the way Windows drivers interact with these monitors. I have had zero issues with my Macs over thunderbolt/displayport. And everyone knows windows is dog$hit.
@@SahilP2648i have an msi271qpx. I do not notice any fringing at all unless I scrunch my face up next to the monitor and strain my eyes. Only then can i see the fringing.
You can tell this guy does not know how to clean a monitor. My 271QRX looks brand new and Ive wiped it with a damp dishrag (cloth or whatever you call it in the states) making sure its a flat surface, you have to do it over and over again gently until all the tiny smear dots you display in your video vaporate thanks to the air. At first you'll have lots, you'll even have long streaks. But let it air dry, go again, let it air dry, go again until the cloth is no longer as damp and the monitor starts to look brand new. Oh yeah always go the same direction each time.
This video is a bit of a clickbait. But then again this guy is ALL clickbait on his other channel.
Ive had the monitor since it came out.
Honestly I have had no issues cleaning it. All I do is breathe my hot breath on it then wipe with a micro fiber. It has worked well for 8 months now.
How does the screen smell?
@@Chicken-o5e Great. I have good breath. It might not work for you tho.
@@Ratbane why
@@Chicken-o5ecuz you’re gross
@@Ratbane damn u were right somehow my screen smells like ass
Interesting. Since setting my 271QRX up I've only lightly wiped away dust with a large microfibre towel and had zero issues or scratching.
Just don't touch the monitor - it's not touchscreen anyway.
OH MY FUCKING GOD, took him at least a minute to get to the point! I swear, so many of these youtubers just try to increase the run time on their videos: listening to them recite things that EVERYONE knows in a nasally, whimsical tone feels like a DRILL to the eardrums... UUUUGGGHHHHHH....
How do you scratch a monitor? 🤔 I mean, it's not like you even move it or anything like that. Dust and fingerprint sure, forever nemesis of display but scratch the monitor? I never heard of any instance that somebody scratched their monitor because of regulare use ???
Ive had a qd oled alienware for 6 months. No issues. Keep your nasty hands off the screens and when you have to sneeze look to your side. This alone will keep the need to clean it way down. And when you do need to clean lt. Clean it properly and you shouldn't have any issues.
Buy the cloths for cleaning glasses as well. My regular microfiber cloths were a lottle too harsh for my qd oled.
mine has minor scratches too. but I use a silk cloth
One manufacturer did put Gorilla Glass and whining customers killed it...
#TheDisplayGuy -- I don't see the video you said you'd link to how to clean; please do link!
Link is in the description
Brother please review the Koorui OLED
Nobody talks about black smearing on OLED. Not only VA panels suffer from black smearing but also OLED.
Lol. I always get a kick out of anyone in any comments saying anything like "Well I do X and I don't have an issue at all". Ya'll remind me of the one person who comments in a troubleshooting thread saying you're not having any problem. These coatings ARE exceptionally hard to clean because they're innately made of a more fragile material. I just made a thread losing my shit about this problem and when people started posting all the links to manufacturers instruction for the SAME type of panel across their monitors, none of them were consistent. This goes to show that not even manufacturers are 100% aware on how to clean these.
Microfiber + Distilled water + circular movement is the copy/paste method a lot of people suggest, but it just doesn't work for me. I have a completely brand new pack of microfibers with only a cut in the package to pull out new towels. Looks like absolute trash. These coatings are so sensitive, that the pressure from my hand stopping the circular wiping pattern will leave a slight pattern of the moist microfiber itself on the monitor - not to mention all the streaking. I then need to take a dry microfiber to get rid of streaks. Shit takes like 7 minutes, and it's completely aids. I've overly sensitive to shit occluding my vision though. I'm the same way with my glasses. They're spotless.
The ONLY thing that has worked for me is 2:1 distilled water to 90% alcohol (70% dilution ratio) and wiping in STRAIGHT lines edge to edge and off the monitor. Ironic considering everyone says not to use alcohol which, yes, I'd recommend not using. However, in my case, its the only method that removes streaks. As long as alcohol doesn't sit in one spot and dry out (similar to hard water etching a stainless steel pan), then it won't damage the coating.
its pretty easy to clean..just use baby wet wipes and wipe it across the screen , and then use a dry tissue and gently wipe it dry . it will look sleek and clean
Youre advocating for something that will destroy most of these screens. I hope you're just trolling.
i cant play dolby vision in my aw32, when ever i try colors is f* up,
1440p 480hz woled everyday, qdoled are rising blacks
ive got the fo48u and its doesn't have the magenta reflection issue as its an LG TV panel on the monitor to bad its been discontinued
How much did you pay for it ❔ 💵
@jarekzahary about 2k Australian nearly four years ago
"Everyone loves qd-oled"
Me with glossy oled: I am a joke to you ?
this is glossy.
Tandem OLED is the bees knees! Want that on everything as soon as possible!
After that we can worry about MicroLED maybe 😆.
why is it seemingly so easy to get phone screens right vs everything else, ever since having a 23" touch pc I can't fucking stand these matte mudcoats, now you're telling me my saving grace is plastic? just because? saving 20$ on a THOUSAND DOLLAR product? ffs
Tried cleaning my asus rog ucdm left smudges had to return to asus so thet can clean it
Qd-oled seems to not have the dirty gray issue like woled has
displays guys solution to the problem: Invent some kind of coating, that makes it more resistant to scratches and helps with the magenta issue.... brother they already did, its called matt. You like glossy, it looks better, i agree. But these are the tradeoffs, if their was a new coating that magically fixed all these issues and didnt impact image quality at all, matt wouldnt exist lol.
Have this exact issue with my Alienware qd oled.
Damp microfiber to get the tough stuff off. Dry microfiber to get dry and polished, good to go. No issues.
Please review the new hp omen oled 32
Only problem I see with these oled panels are flickering issue. Didn't push the trigger and bought Alienware qd-oled ultrawide monitor just because of this.
Don‘t use VRR and your flicker problem is solved
@@marco2982 being unable to use just a v-sync off or proper frame generation without a screen tearing is a big problem for me.
simple solution: don't buy glossy. (and clean with care)
Nah, qdoled looks grey in 99% of use cases, and I hate it. Woled still has its room to survive.
Idk I have a c1 48 and the Asus pg32ucdm and the Asus look better in color etc
@@HosakaBloodhow much did you pay for them ❔ 💵
@@jarekzahary the c1 for 900 on launch day on Panama and the Asus 1300 on Amazon
The asus xg27acdng is the best 1440p qd oled and it works perfect in a bright room and I don't notice the magenta tint at all
And so far so good 1 month in
Then check your eyes. This isn’t really a subjective topic. The magenta issue is extremely annoying and noticeable in bright rooms and this is coming from a PG32UCDM user.
@ryanvasei8412 ok, I'll check them then lol
The magenta tint is such a nothing burger. Its not visible when the monitor is in use, and who cares if it has a purple tint when switched off. I dunno.
In terms of cleaning. I'm trying to keep the peel-off film that came with the monitor on the screen for as long as possible! I only just recently got mine 2 weeks ago.
Nope it is very much noticeable when watching movies. But it differs monitor to monitor. My Alienware one is worse than the Evnia (I had the Evnia before but I returned it since I had to move, then I got the Alienware instead because Evnia wasn't available in my new location).
Yeah I can't see it at all on my Gigabyte Aorus watching movies, only when it's off in the daytime
Microfiber + distilled water I have no scratch
agree 100 percent
Bro I thought it was just me!
It is a oil magnet
Is this problem for QD Oled TVs too? Does Samsung S90D or C scratch easily too?
Use your 🦲 head intelligo 😸
What market speculation with these OLEDs and assembled with little protection, if they want to sell them they should bring the prices to normal, instead of worrying about planned obsolescence🔔💬
My monitor has Gorilla Glass so I don't have to worry about scratches, awwhh.😂
think ill save up for asus rog swift pro pg248qp TNNNN Now i use the Asus Tuf vg258qm 280hz TN
i actually really like these TN panels in Vivid mode.
Also have a Alienware 2720hfs 240 ips panel. With VSR this screen looks amazing to but its just not as fast in Online fps titles.
I guess in games like call of duty internet is more important than your screen haha. laggie game. might have to fix a new router. haha desktop is on cable but anytime i go on laptop wifi massive lagggggg.
Matte QDOLED has no magenta tint
personally i like woled better.
kwab.
Come on let's do this it's not hard or costly.
I use surgical spirit and turtle 🐢 wax and a micro fiber amazing
FINALLY someone talks about this! 100% a HUGE issue. I have owned 2 QD OLED monitors and 1 QD OLED TV and they are literally impossible to clean even if you are freakishly careful. I returned my ASUS QD OLED just because of this issue. Yes matte sucks but at least it is durable. QD OLED screen simply do not use glass on the front because of the nature of QD OLED, I’ve read it could cause “color impurities” so they opt not to protect them. I’m staying away from QD just because of this. I don’t care what anyone says, after buying 3 of them and all getting scratched and blemishes when cleaning very carefully with a new microfiber cloth, I’m done. LG G3 83 inch I have is a tank because it has GLASS.