Sony a7C II & a7CR are ALMOST Perfect, but...

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  • Опубліковано 24 лис 2024

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  • @gken_ny
    @gken_ny Рік тому +214

    My wallet ...

  • @BestindotechYT
    @BestindotechYT Рік тому +93

    Love the production quality, the sound, the jokes, amazing! Cannot believe you made this video just with the two of you. Great work Jason, if you come again to Indonesia please make a workshop/seminar of how to do this amazing work! Take care J&V :)
    Btw just bought A6700 and so happy with it especially the lens option now is so good.

    • @mlhm5
      @mlhm5 Рік тому +1

      If I was going to carry something around that is as heavy as the a6700 I would carry a full frame, the a7c.

    • @boxoffisa
      @boxoffisa 9 місяців тому

      How is it holding? Is it good with stills like it is with video? I wonder because I am looking for a budget friendly but good quality video camera.

  • @Samiam-mu5ln
    @Samiam-mu5ln Рік тому +56

    The Sony ZV-E1 should have been released with these two bodies but called the Sony A7C S since it directly takes from the A7S III but in a more compact form factor (same body as these new A7C II/R if I'm not mistaken) and then Sony would have had one of the most craziest body launches in history!

    • @RamTengri
      @RamTengri Рік тому +2

      Makes me wonder if an A7sIV is coming soon with A7cS following?!?!

    • @Omgiamsotriggered
      @Omgiamsotriggered Рік тому +4

      @@RamTengridoubt it. Sony will probably discontinue the A7s to continue their cinema line. You can clearly see that with the fact fx series are getting really good firmware updates while a7sIII has been left unloved.

    • @lalitkoradiya3868
      @lalitkoradiya3868 9 місяців тому

      No camera

  • @SebastienBarrau
    @SebastienBarrau Рік тому +10

    Watched most reviews on the a7cii and this is by far the most detailed! Thanks for the hard work!

  • @TheCarGuide
    @TheCarGuide Рік тому +4

    Just 1 question - SONY ZV-E1 vs A7C 2 ?

  • @imranpatel4612
    @imranpatel4612 Рік тому +7

    Need an a6700 vs a7c ii video asap. Great video as always Jason

  • @kane01337
    @kane01337 Рік тому +4

    I love professor VONG - he should be a regular segment !

  • @ShutterSphere
    @ShutterSphere Рік тому +9

    i can't wait, these look SO nice. I have the OG 7c and absolutely love it. It's an amazing camera. I'm stoked they're updating the line and continuing it!

  • @R8Prototype
    @R8Prototype Рік тому +3

    the chapter transitions are such a fun touch to your videos haha

  • @alanleung8188
    @alanleung8188 Рік тому +43

    Production quality just got to another level, well done mate!

  • @OdysseusVrakas
    @OdysseusVrakas Рік тому +9

    I'll just go hug my a6400 after watching this this video😅

  • @LaLekASMR
    @LaLekASMR Рік тому +6

    How the 4k 60p in crop factor mode on the a7cII compare to 4k 60p on a FX30/a6700 when regarding low light? are they virtually the same or a FF sensor is still better even in crop mode?

    • @bradl2636
      @bradl2636 4 місяці тому

      Great question… can anyone chime in?

    • @OdamaKamayuka
      @OdamaKamayuka 24 дні тому

      I won't pretend to know the answer but theoricaly speaking, since an A7CII has less pixels in its crop factor mode than a A6700 each pixel should take more space therefor have more light and have a tiny adventage I guess.

  • @izzydo3494
    @izzydo3494 Рік тому +7

    These two new cameras honestly make the a6700 more attractive just for the 4k 120. Just a little sad to see them crippling the feature set on the a7cR.
    Personally I'd go for the a6700 or the a7rV

  • @rossmpt
    @rossmpt Рік тому +55

    Great video! I was on the cusp of getting an a6700 but now conflicted! Would love to see a comparison of a6700 and a7CII. If I went full frame, I'd prob use aps-c lenses occasionally for travel, so comparing a7CII in crop mode and a6700 with the same lens would be super interesting to me! Enjoying the channel.

    • @YoungBlaze
      @YoungBlaze Рік тому +2

      Go with the a6700 , then eventually to full

    • @lucashome
      @lucashome Рік тому +3

      A7cii is leagues ahead. I have an A7c and shot some of my music videos on it if you want to see what the first one is capable of

    • @RiposteThis
      @RiposteThis Рік тому

      @@lucashome It's leagues ahead if you ignore the atrocious rolling shutter for video. It's even worse than the rolling shutter on the a7c. No cinema line camera will use the 33mp a7iv sensor because of this.

    • @professionalpotato4764
      @professionalpotato4764 Рік тому +1

      @@RiposteThis Just use the right tool for the right job. Use the A1 if rolling shutter is an issue, or a Komodo. Also, most people don't even know there's a pan speed limit depending on frame rate and focal length. Even global shutter sensors can't fix bad techniques. Not to mention 1 or 2 whip pans is fine, but if you exclusively need whip pans, something is terribly wrong with the directing.

    • @JimIBobIJones
      @JimIBobIJones Рік тому +3

      Get an A7CR then - you get 26mp crop mode, which basically means you get all the functionality of an A6700 out of the A7CR (albeit at a much higher cost).
      I went from an A7R (1st gen) and a A6000 to a A7R IV replacing both and its a perfect "two birds with one stone" camera if you shoot both APSC and FF with Sony lenses.
      If you shoot crop mode with a 33mp sensor (as in the A7C II) you only get 15mp - which whilst enough is going to be noticeably worse than the a6700 or even the older 24mp A6xxx cameras.

  • @rsat9526
    @rsat9526 Рік тому +5

    As a hybrid shooter I feel a6700 offer a better value for VDO. For still these two cameras are superior for being ff. Though, not many people would be able to tell them apart anyway on social media.

  • @mymai4132
    @mymai4132 Рік тому +8

    Hey Jason, I'm loving the new look / feel of these videos ! great job.

  • @nsaech
    @nsaech Рік тому

    I am laughing HISTERICALLY in the car, with my husband, watching you. Like CRYING. I have never seen ever in my life a full YT video so long. Genius

  • @NZOMV
    @NZOMV Рік тому +4

    4K 60p on the a7c II limits you to apsc mode??? That's a big disappointment! Thanks for highlighting this! Other reviews didn't mention this.

  • @Wendell123-h6k
    @Wendell123-h6k Рік тому +28

    seems like the a6700 is a better value to me

    • @fotomotoxxiii
      @fotomotoxxiii Рік тому +1

      If it was in stock somewhere 😂

    • @carolchennning9188
      @carolchennning9188 Рік тому

      @@fotomotoxxiii glad i preordered a6700. didn't know it would be so popular.

    • @eunaosouovasco
      @eunaosouovasco Рік тому +1

      This is a ff a6700, with more mp, I guess

  • @nafnaf0
    @nafnaf0 Рік тому +9

    Very detailed, entertaining, and engaging video. The production quality in this is really getting pretty good. No one has gone through video as detailed as that.

  • @77dris
    @77dris Рік тому +5

    That 4K60 crop on the A7IV is one of the big reasons I got the R6 II instead (plus the better body, LCD and faster FPS on the Canon)

    • @jacksmith-kw9ex
      @jacksmith-kw9ex Рік тому

      if Canon opens rf mount, id say compare to r6ii, the a7m4 is just garbage.

  • @LeviZapanta
    @LeviZapanta Рік тому +6

    Thanks for making this video! Really glad I got my ZV-E1 and will be sticking with it 🔥

  • @tsizzle
    @tsizzle Рік тому +5

    Great to watch this finally released first view on the new A7CII and A7CR, great in-depth look into the 4K-60 conundrum! I like Vivian’s announcements in each of the review categories😊 Hope to hear a bit more about over heating test results in a future in-depth review. Also, I know battery life is taking a HUGE hit (540/510 CIPA vs. 740/680 CIPA in the original A7C) which is both expected but still disappointing. Would also be interested to know if A7C2 suffers from what some users have complained about noise in shadow details and also not as sharp eye AF when using wide open apertures as the A7IV? Finally, do you think it’s worth upgrading from the original A7C to A7C2 for photography?

  • @R4NIERI
    @R4NIERI Рік тому +1

    Full frame 4k60 for me would justify upgrading my current a7c. Sony seems to want to force the use of 4k60 on cameras like the zv-e1 and fx3. Why not enable fullframe 4k60 on this camera? Damn it!

  • @cb11_11
    @cb11_11 5 місяців тому +1

    Incredible editing. Been watching your videos for a while, but this was just above and beyond. Earned a subscribe from me!

  • @edward92128
    @edward92128 Рік тому +3

    ZV-E1 definitely still my choice!

  • @ritosuckerino6763
    @ritosuckerino6763 Рік тому

    I love your new high octane editing style. Really differentiates your channel! Love the growth!

  • @joshua_wagstaff
    @joshua_wagstaff 10 місяців тому +1

    Looking too buy a camera for Content Creation jobs for brands, music artists and more...need a solid hybrid camera which performs well in all situations for video (low light etc...) but also want the option to be able to shoot photos on it as well for things such as cover images, carousels for IG...what would you recommend? Currently torn between the A7Cii and the ZV-E1...At the moment I'm leaning towards the A7Cii because it has a view finder and if I get some wedding gigs this may be super helpful when capturing photos....
    Would love to hears thoughts opinions or even another camera option which may work better for that hybrid set up!

  • @MadefromJava
    @MadefromJava Рік тому +1

    No 4k60 on APSC mode on the a7C R is bummer for me. Just tested it out on my a7r V and it’s the same. Wanted a more compact solution and use an APSC lens from time to time during travel while keeping the same capabilities. Looks like I’m leaning towards the a7c ii.

  • @SirCookie-monster
    @SirCookie-monster Рік тому

    Man aside of all that camera goodness, i kept listening to your intro on loop. It is awesome 😂❤

  • @ektalon1
    @ektalon1 6 місяців тому

    Well done video explaining the features, benefits, and differences in each camera.

  • @riparianlife97701
    @riparianlife97701 3 місяці тому

    Something no one says about the CR vs the Rv is that for on-camera flash, you get smaller shadows, since the flash isn't sitting on a big hump.

  • @tarrius1210
    @tarrius1210 Рік тому +1

    Jason, can you please do a comparison video on the a6700 vs a7CR please?

  • @gregsouza5748
    @gregsouza5748 Рік тому +1

    I have an A7C mark 1 and have been looking forward to an upgrade, but the technical limitations is not compelling me enough to upgrade. I’m sorry the A7R is way too expensive.

  • @advapp
    @advapp Рік тому +1

    I'm interested in low light specifically Milky Way shots how does it perform there?

  • @molybdnum
    @molybdnum Рік тому +5

    Super, super interested in whether one or both of these can make the most of crop mode to use APS-C glass. I'd love a deep dive into how cropped A7CR compares to the 6000-series 24mp APS-C. And of course - @jason, does the A7CR finally replace the RX1R-II?

    • @xstensl8823
      @xstensl8823 7 місяців тому

      Sony needs to crop to m43 so i can use all my excellent Leica glass rather than spend fortune on new FE glass

  • @Goldsteinphoto
    @Goldsteinphoto 2 місяці тому

    Nice review. Very comprehensive. One correction...
    Doubling the pixel count does not double the resolution. You need 4x the pixel count for that...assuming the lens and shooting technique can deliver the detail.

  • @chkndelux
    @chkndelux Рік тому

    Great Scott!!!!! Vong came through with the most entertaining coverage of the A7C lineup this year!

  • @hiawrj
    @hiawrj Рік тому +1

    You make the best videos! Always first to watch for new gear releases :D

  • @UrbaneHobbit
    @UrbaneHobbit Рік тому +5

    This is an extremely entertaining and informative video about what could easily have been a pretty confusing comparison (just see how some other reviewers got tripped up with the names). Thanks for going all out on this

  • @MollyFitzBrown
    @MollyFitzBrown Рік тому +1

    "the Vong" lol thanks for the breakdown. I'll be sticking with my zve1 for video but these seem interesting if I want to add a photo geared camera to my lineup one day!

  • @FrameofTravel
    @FrameofTravel Рік тому +2

    I picked up the A7c as my first Sony Camera in years and it was a blast to use. Super excited for these updated cameras and honestly thinking of picking one up. Which one though ... hmmmmm.
    Love this video guys! So much information and entertainment value to the max hah. The IBIS is nuts with those shots at 1 second. Bummed about the video specs though.
    Overall loved the video and info. Keep it up!

  • @shaofuhuwu709
    @shaofuhuwu709 Рік тому

    Your production quality went through the roof! 😮

  • @vitalieodobescu
    @vitalieodobescu 6 місяців тому

    Hi Jason. I've been watching your channel for a long time. You are doing a great job. I would like to ask if you are going to release a Setup Guide for the A7CII like you previously released a guide for the A7IV? This would be very helpful.

  • @johnrbuis
    @johnrbuis Рік тому

    Ordered my A7CII today! Loved my A7IV more than any camera I've ever owned but like you said bodies are getting too big again, this is what I have been waiting for for years!

  • @johnscreativephotography3877
    @johnscreativephotography3877 10 місяців тому +1

    a7c2Can this camera be used for wedding photography?

  • @AnimeWill
    @AnimeWill Рік тому +1

    Bro, I feel your frustration on the a7CR 4k60 apsc nonsense. I honestly would have pulled the trigger and splurged on it over the a6700 and use my large collection of APS-C lenses. What a weird limitation.

  • @DaPoets
    @DaPoets Рік тому

    Fantastic video and it was great seeing you at Kando

  • @labelfish29
    @labelfish29 10 місяців тому

    You've become my favourite reviewer. Great job: detailed, entertaining and funny to watch. I was hooked

  • @bias1609
    @bias1609 Рік тому +1

    How would you compare the a7c ii with the A6700?

  • @-grey
    @-grey Рік тому +3

    A full frame camera the size of the X100V? Yes.

    • @yasso2031
      @yasso2031 Рік тому

      the x100v is a lot smaller than the a7c

    • @-grey
      @-grey Рік тому +1

      @@yasso2031 It's not a lot smaller, even after you put on the Zeiss 35f2.8 which is about the equivalent lens for full frame with light gathering, depth of field, and field of view. It adds only 37mm to the front and 120g. It's actually very comparable considering it's a Fullframe interchangeable lens camera.
      X100V: 128 x 75 x 53mm 478g
      A7C: 124 x 71 x 60mm 509g

  • @abennett
    @abennett Рік тому

    You CRUSHED this review! Well done!

  • @paulcritchley464
    @paulcritchley464 Рік тому

    Rolling shutter. That’s the skill of the operator
    Cheers have a great day

  • @enerico
    @enerico Рік тому

    This is why I'm subscribed to Jason for so many years now, because of his style (informative and comedic way) 😍

  • @vfdbgred-ui1bg
    @vfdbgred-ui1bg Рік тому +1

    Finally!! Great video Jason!

  • @MJGOLDHEART
    @MJGOLDHEART Рік тому +1

    Always informative and entertaining 🙂 Cheers Jason!

  • @ptrively
    @ptrively Рік тому

    Amateur photographer looking to get my second camera body (I'm an A7-III user today) and I'm considering an upgrade, any chance you can do a A7CR v. A7RV comparison video? I'm in the 90/10 camera/video crew and I'm waffling!

  • @kaisilva7154
    @kaisilva7154 2 місяці тому

    Could you use the A7CR for professional use or pay a little more and get the A7r5

  • @HesDeadJim
    @HesDeadJim Рік тому +2

    Zv-e1 is nice, but for long format recording, the overheating makes it a non-option. These new C series options seem to have the heat issues sorted!

    • @digitalbread4574
      @digitalbread4574 Рік тому

      Just get a FX30 🤔

    • @SlavGuns
      @SlavGuns Рік тому +1

      FX30… or Panasonic S5ii

    • @amathma
      @amathma Рік тому +1

      I often record with fx30 for +1h30 for live events. I had zero issues with overheating even in summer

  • @motojc
    @motojc Рік тому

    You have the best 7C comparison video. Both informative and entertaining. Great job. Maybe the new Fuji 100II next?

  • @AJCoReTV
    @AJCoReTV 5 місяців тому

    So much fun & all the details we need! 🎉

  • @mishimafan
    @mishimafan Рік тому

    WOW! You're good at this. Great video!

  • @Rollergold4
    @Rollergold4 6 місяців тому

    @6:29, that's the sound of newer and smallrig laughing all the way to bank 🤣

  • @ItsJFox
    @ItsJFox 6 місяців тому

    But ZV-E1 overheats for longer video - which would recommend for video podcast? FX30 / FX3 / A7cii ??

  • @OhddMusic
    @OhddMusic 8 місяців тому

    Have you done a comparison between a7ii and a6700? Would love to know as a hybrid shooter

  • @Raymond0595
    @Raymond0595 Рік тому

    Which one would you recommend for beginner?

  • @codenamekim22
    @codenamekim22 Рік тому

    always love the undercut of this guy :)

  • @michaeliandomingo3409
    @michaeliandomingo3409 Рік тому

    6:29 That expression and look got me crying lol hahah! but amazing contents you produced @jason vong and yeah I am Michael with the big hands but love to buy this mark ii soon 😁

  • @hbarwick1
    @hbarwick1 9 місяців тому

    Thanks Jason. As always great info and reviews. I just picked up the A7Cii. Do you know if you can get photos from your 4K video you take?

  • @RiposteThis
    @RiposteThis Рік тому +1

    To me the A7CR just has too many compromises for the price. I think they really needed to give it a better LCD screen, better EVF, and a Type A / SD card slot. Because for $900 you're getting a way better camera over all. I feel like you get as much if not more with the a6700 for less price. A7Cii seems worth it over the a7iv, but there is really no reason these cameras should have worse LCD screens than the Fujifilm x-s20.

  • @morgannelson884
    @morgannelson884 3 місяці тому

    Love all of your videos! They are complete!🎉

  • @xperience-evolution
    @xperience-evolution Рік тому

    Brilliant Video as usual!
    Where is the Mark II branding on the 7C II?

  • @chickenandricecrew9867
    @chickenandricecrew9867 Рік тому

    Was wondering if you will be doing a setup guide for a7cii and a7cr like you have done for other cameras? Thanks again channel is amazing keep them coming. 👏👍

  • @NikoBols
    @NikoBols 5 місяців тому

    Hey Jason. Question about the 4k60p in the A7CR. You mentioned it cannot be used in crop mode. What happens when you use an APS-C lens in 4k60p?

  • @craiggillette4381
    @craiggillette4381 Рік тому

    As part of the Vong throng, I'm always looking here to see what's new. Pleased to see this. I did add an A6700 and am exploring the hybrid side of things so like that it's a different point of view compared to some of the strongly stills oriented side with so many others. Good job!

  • @bigdhav
    @bigdhav Рік тому

    Your videos are always so fun and entertaining. Thanks! Really enjoy watching them.

  • @chinuonchaitanya8340
    @chinuonchaitanya8340 4 місяці тому

    what a video man. This is what I was looking. side by side image comparssion.

  • @alexanderkohl6512
    @alexanderkohl6512 Рік тому +1

    Hi Jason, super video, what viewer do you Need (at 10:41)?

  • @isofinal
    @isofinal Рік тому

    Love the "Huh?" at 20:32! Hahahahaha

  • @TomWuck
    @TomWuck Рік тому

    Hello Jason, could you do a comparison of the a7xii and the best iphone 15 please? Thanks, Thomas

  • @Zild3jian
    @Zild3jian Рік тому +1

    logged in just to like and watch Jason vid.. GJ bro

  • @dianascarletthenry
    @dianascarletthenry Рік тому

    I'm so hype for this update, damn love the a7C series and your videos.

  • @JaySea_Productions
    @JaySea_Productions 9 місяців тому

    Hi Jason, talking about APSC lenses on A7IV full frame. If I was to pick between A7IV and an FX30 to film 4k videos, which would be better quality? 13 MP full frame or 25 MP APSC?

  • @kudogoku
    @kudogoku Рік тому

    Hi. I recently more serious into camera and just found your channel.
    I watch your reviews and still cant decide.
    I got my good old A6500 with my Tamron 18-300mm lens that I took everywhere for everything (I know it's not good but...)
    I love to shoot animals (recently into horse racing) and landscape.
    Which one do you recommend?
    To be honest, 7C2 is my no.1 choice right now as the price is not very over budget and I need to buy Telezoom for the horse racing (If you can recommend this as well ;w; please)
    Do you think I should wait and buy 7CR instead or just 7c2 is alright in your opinion?
    Thank you in advance!

  • @juansolorzano394
    @juansolorzano394 Рік тому

    Hi again, Jason!!
    Your content is amazing, my first stop for Sony “reviewtainment” !!
    We could not ask for more, other than encouraging you an Vivian to keep doing such a great work.
    I was really looking forward to buy the A7CII since I wanted the compact form factor.
    But here in Mexico we recently had great promotions during HotSale (think BlackFriday in steroids) and bought the A7IV with kit lens for some 16 hundred.
    My plan was to resell new to get this A7CII, but at 2,2K now does not make much sense.
    Best regards and come visit Mexico.

  • @DDHDTV
    @DDHDTV Рік тому +1

    OMG HYPE! Haven't watched the video yet and won't get the A7Cii anyways, due to price, but I love the idea of the compact FF so I'm very excited about these releases!

    • @DDHDTV
      @DDHDTV Рік тому

      update: wow I'm really surprised it doesn't even have 4k60 no crop, after that a6700 release I thought that would be the minimum the A7Cii would get. Oterhwise it really is perfect. Now hoping for good used A7C deals myself :)

  • @NINETY-97-SEVEN
    @NINETY-97-SEVEN Рік тому +2

    The a7cii is insane! 😍
    But I'm gonna stick to my ZV-E1 🔥😁

  • @officalmattknows
    @officalmattknows Рік тому +1

    great video jason! cameras don’t feel too convincing for me but I can see the use for them!

  • @rmrfboy
    @rmrfboy 10 місяців тому

    I bought an A7R ii years back and hated it. not because of the image quality and all that jazz, but because it looks big like a dslr. Now with the a7c ii, its smaller and it looks retro-ish! just what i prefer. i'ma buy this sucker.

  • @emanuelbief7088
    @emanuelbief7088 Рік тому +3

    The apple of camera world

  • @jeffreyagnes2232
    @jeffreyagnes2232 Рік тому

    Always enjoyed your video mate. Keep it up!

  • @chickenandricecrew9867
    @chickenandricecrew9867 Рік тому

    Hey will there be a ultimate setup guide for the a7cii or a7cr? Just wondering really enjoyed the zv e1 one. Thanks.

  • @tietan867
    @tietan867 Рік тому

    What would you recommend if I just want to take good portrait picture? Which Sony camera I should buy? Thanks

  • @calebcollinshomes
    @calebcollinshomes Рік тому

    You keep them coming!!! How do you do it?! Series love your reviews as of late. Slaying!! 😎 Good work!

  • @coreychaffin5102
    @coreychaffin5102 2 місяці тому

    what tripod are you using in this video

  • @quellhorst7550
    @quellhorst7550 Рік тому

    Don't like micro hdmi but having 2 video outs possible, if the hdmi breaks, can use 4k 30p webcam mode.

  • @bruceinmyheart
    @bruceinmyheart Рік тому

    07m, 05secs… What is the Sony Xperia shoe mount called? Where did you buy it?

  • @MrPedalpaddle
    @MrPedalpaddle Рік тому

    Excellent video! Very informative & entertaining,too. Vivian is great!

  • @dylansawchuk8045
    @dylansawchuk8045 Рік тому +1

    Jason, I'm still not sure which one to buy to replace my existing A7c. I care more about still image quality vs Video, but weighting the high ISO performance of the cII vs the megapixels of the R. Is there anything else to the R which makes it a better still camera? Does it have more DR or do I just get more pixels to crop for my extra $800?

  • @SPDTDL
    @SPDTDL 10 місяців тому +1

    Went with the A7CR! ❤