Davros was never disabled. He was a 2 million year old mummy on technological life support! Writers that can't tell the difference should lose their jobs.
@@thedeadpoolwhochuckles.6852Oxford dictionary definition. "a piece of equipment that keeps somebody alive when they are extremely ill and cannot breathe without help" By definition you are wrong. You can be conscious while using one and As long as the life support system is small enough you can take it on a motorised wheel chair. Not to mention his is probably 1000s of years more advanced than we have.
So, they think that if you are disabled, you can't also be evil! If Davros had red hair, would that associate being evil with being Ginger? Oh we'll just make Davros an able-bodied middle aged heterosexual white guy, they are all evil, aren't they??
Funny how having Davros in a wheelchair might be insulting to people in wheelchairs but portraying him as an old white bloke isn't insulting to old white blokes. Somehow.
You have it somewhat wrong. It's not that they don't want to insult people in wheelchairs, they don't want people associating disabilities with evilness. Which is the funny part, because they are the ones who clearly made that association in their own heads and assume everyone else will too.
They didn't "want to associate evilness with disabilities" but NO ONE WAS DOING THAT. It's so insane. It's like just because you, the current showrunners somehow associate disabilities with evil people doesn't mean literally everyone else does. That says far, far, faaaar more about these "We're so inclusive!" idiots than it does the general population. And they don't even realize that's what they said about themselves.
@@Nixlplix You mean I was wrong for all those years to slap random strangers in wheelchairs crying out 'this is for the genocide of the Thals' and 'Go back to Skaro mutant'. Ah gee, have I some apology letters to write.
@@egg2520 You forgot to include John Hurt as the _War Doctor_ which they have to shoehorn in after Paul McGann (# 8) because Eccleston refused to return for the 50th Anniversary. That makes the _War Doctor_ # 9, Eccleston #10, Tennant # 11 and Matt Smith the 12th and final incarnation of the Doctor. And there they should've stopped...
@@DAZzler3K I would have liked if Trenzalore was the actual end. Like the Time Lords decide to make the Doctor young but that's it, so he decides to retire in peace.
@@Grimmlocked I'm still of the opinion that Modern Who had at least three chances to end, 1) around the 50th anniversary/2013 Christmas special, 2) 2015 Christmas special, & 3) 2017 Christmas special from what I understand but they had to just keep going.
I saw a few Capaldi episodes and thought he was great in the role, but poorly served by the writers. I'd already lost interest but did catch the first Jodie Whittaker episode at a friend's house and I just felt embarrassed for all concerned. Doctor Cringe.
If it was about representation or equality, their would be a push like in the past when people made their own shows. Their would be a push for more unique stories with "diverse" casts. But it's been 90% rewrites, remakes, and subversion. They steal an IP, tell you they hate everything about it, then show you they hate everything about it, and you're supposed to clap because it's now "diverse." I'm black. I grew up watching shows with everything under the sun. I went from watching stuff freely to now being wary when something seems "diverse." The worst part is, is when the wariness is proven right.
I can guarantee no Welsh, English, Northern Irish or any other British culture will be reflected in this costume that includes a screwdriver and rings with a Rwandan proverb on them. Besides the kilt… I mean skirt.
@@edwardreed67 The costume only really changes with the actor. The Doctor has always had a certain style going on, with changes usually being smaller when we're talking the same regeneration. For example: The 2nd Doctor always wore ill fitting clothes and a crooked bowtie. If you look closely sometimes his pants had a different pattern. The 3rd Doctor always wore a smoking jacket even if it was a different color, same with his cloak. The 4th Doctor always wore a long scarf, even if it wasn't always the same colour. The 5th Doctor's shirt sometimes had red or green on the inside of the collar, and his pants occasionally changed colour ever so slightly, but it was still the same outfit. The 6th Doctor was obviously a mess but somehow still pretty consistent considering the colourful theme around it. The 7th Doctor always had his panama hat on, even with the movie outfit, which was the least similar to his original one. The 8th Doctor's outfit was still a green coat and waistcoat underneath, as seen in his first and last appearance, even if the clothes themselves were different, so he was still recognizable. The 9th Doctor had the least change, only changing his jumper. The 10th Doctor had 2 whole suits, but both fitting the same design. He still had his coat to tie them together. The 11th Doctor always had his bowtie, even if ditched the tweed jacket for his purple coat, the green coat acting as a bit of a transit outfit. The 12th Doctor had that mess at the end where they put the hoodie together with the shirt and waistcoat, but otherwise his outfit was pretty solid and didn't change much, his most recognizable feature being the fact he wore his shirt completely done up, his three coats being the same design even if differing in terms of color and material. The 13th Doctor was ironically pretty stable, but her outfit was a hot mess. Not like 6, but still. The 14th Doctor was meh and he didn't even change his outfit at all. I think you get my point.
Since I'm gay myself, I could never figure out what it is that turns me off so much about actors like him and their identity politics and even the whole diversity and inclusion thing. I think the thing I hate is their self-congratulation and self-glorification. And the way that they denigrate everybody else with their condescending lectures in order to make themselves look heroic. And they don't seem to realize or care that this is the reason that people dislike them. It's their attitude of moral superiority .
I have no doubt since it all started that it is reverse psy, pushing it to incite hate, same happening with more current events, divide and... tactics. Their narcissism makes them blind to the damage they are causing to themselves.
The trouble with politicizing Homosexuality is that you can disagree with a notion in politics so we either end up with Homosexuality you can disagree with or enforced homosexuality and an abandonment of our political values.Either way its bad for Gay people and straight alike.
The Red Nose Day special with Rowan Atkinson was supposed to be a parody, yet it has more charm and love for the original than any Doctor Who series since Capaldi's run.
Remember when Britain was constantly at the vanguard of clever writing and ideas, a veritable breeding ground from which Hollywood would pull tomorrow’s next global hit? Yeah, those days are long gone.
It's amazing how many activists claim to have found solace in worlds like Doctor Who (as it was) then want to completely obliterate it, then remake it to suit to their current ideals.
You forgot to mention that Hartnell's debut was overshadowed by the Kennedy assasination which dominated the TV at the time. It would have been the equivalent of debuting something right after 9/11 or something equally big. So the new Dr Who can only just beat out an episode drowned out by a global event in the 60s. Says a lot.
The BBC repeated the first episode the following week, before screening the second. On that occasion, An Unearthly Child got six million viewers. The Church on Ruby Road had consolidated figures of 7.49 million, so one could argue it got more viewers than AUC, or fewer, based purely on those two screenings in November 1963 (when the population was smaller and not everybody owned a TV set). I think we all know which of the two is the better episode, in terms of script and acting etc.
It aired, what, the next day?! I don't know how this is never remembered. I wasn't even alive back then but, despite being a child, I was agog at finding out that the premiere episode had been up against news that world-shaking. I have never forgotten that. It is part of the glorious legend and legacy of the show and cannot be repeated enough.
After something like that, it's the darker, more topical shows that thrive. After 9/11, for example, "24" saw a massive boost in viewership that led to the show's meteoric rise in the US. Same goes for Battlestar Galactica.
Russell T Davis was on Breakfast TV here in the UK, and he goes, 'It's 61 years old, but the last 61 years don't matter...' So yes, here we are. What has gone before is irrelivant. Just forget about it. The sad, sad reality of our times. sigh
@@gameover9390 He really did. I simply couldn't believe my ears. I watch the clip again on iPlayer to see if I'd mis-heard him, but no. A complete disregard of the past, the canon, of everything.
I think you guys might be misinterpreting that. Just before then, he says that the show keeps moving on and evolving, and earlier he talks about how any new viewer doesn't need to know anything about past lore to jump in. I don't take that to mean that past lore is irrelevant (the specials had loads of callbacks), but rather that they're not shackled by it and are focusing on the new, which is something the writers have always been doing. DW lore is massively contradictory, don't forget. There are two origin stories for the Daleks, the Doctor is given different numbers of regenerations, used to have one heart, is stated to be half-human in the 1996 movie and yet also the timeless child. When he says it "doesn't matter", it means that the writers can focus on making interesting stories without worrying about the wiki, and that sort of fresh start is what RTD did back in 2005 anyway. Thinking he meant "just forget about the past" is reading in malintent that's not there imo.
@@Nebula.Dragon _"the writers can focus on making interesting stories without worrying about the wiki, and that sort of fresh start is what RTD did back in 2005 anyway."_ And good writers are actually able to write stuff that dances with the old while respecting it, instead of trying to rewrite it. Or was something like Timeless Children something that was especially needed or that interesting to rewrite origin of the Doctor? I remember there was plenty of interesting stories e.g. for Eccleston, Tennant and Smith which did not try to rewrite the lore still being highly praised both by critics and audiences. How did they ever manage to do that? Or was it before they tried injecting modern day politics in to everything. Based on user ratings and viewing figures episodes like Timeless Children which many seem to disdain did not seem to hit very high marks. Compared to The Waters of Mars, Midnight or e.g. Blink. To say you need to constantly rewrite the old to be able to write interesting stories that would tell quite a lot about about you as a writer, words like unimaginative and self centered come to mind. In a world like doctor Who there is little obstacles to actually create something wholly new and creative only limit being budget - how to actually practically portray something totally imaginary while staying within limited budget. Example from another world is Don Rosa, an former Disney artist who loved Carl Barks stories and practically wrote most of his most popular and refered stuff basing and leaning on Barks stories and references. Rosa among Barks is on the most loved Duck/McDuck storytellers. Somehow Rosa managed to create lot's of great and interesting stories while worrying about the lore and characters Barks had created mostly feeling sorry if he had to do some minor changes or retcons. Funny how all that works.
For me the doctor died in the space ship in The Doctor Falls. He died where he stood, fighting just because it was right. He died as the best possible version of himself. Not guilt ridden and angry like the 9th, not like 10th's god complex or with the need to just save everyone like the 11th. He died fighting just because it was right and kind and thats what he swore to die for: kindness. I will never accept this defiling to the corpse of such a great man as canon.
I have not heard a more compassionate and succinct appreciation than this - and that is set against so many others posted here. I used to help my son make DW videos when the camera was the size and weight of a wardrobe. He, and I, once, totally immersed in the unlimited creativity and capacity of the myriad multiverse DW could conjure on a peanuts budget. Now it’s DEI preening drivel. Kids need to be behind the sofa safely frightened again. What about the Weeping Angels returning as a metaphorical construct of the evils of pernicious Social Media? And a Doctor with some authority. End of hissy-fit. Regards all . John K. And yes, I vividly remember that day when JFK was murdered. 🦖
@@flyhyland stupid it isn't ruined. Yall are reaching cause yall weren't even fans,also don't tell me not to be rude yet u idiots are just being racist and homophobic clowns and wish death for the show and wishing harm in the actor just cause he is black
Peter Capaldi was the last Doctor, and nobody can convince me otherwise. I have no problem with the Doctor being a woman, or the Doctor being black... Except that when they did that they stopped being "the Doctor," because suddenly those were their defining traits. Not the Doctor's cleverness, otherworldly intelligence, kindness, and compassion. Every regeneration has their own unique personality, but they all had that spark that makes the Doctor who they are. And that spark is just missing from these new Doctors. They don't care about writing Doctor Who, they care about preaching a message.
It’s not. He fails on many levels. He makes no real points. He could have discussed the writing issues present in series 11 but he went after 13 and Yaz being in a relationship in series 13 instead. He makes so many basic errors that it’s clear he doesn’t watch Doctor Who
The problem is, it's already hard enough to find the original seasons with Hartnell and co. and now they're reusing the "Season" branding over Series, combined with the fact they're going from season "1" again which is going to further obscure the original show too. It's really quite sad.
The idiots that decided to take the BBC's best IP and partner with Disney need sacking; they really do. Disney has vandalised _their_ best IP's and ran everything into the ground, imagine what they're going to do with the BBC's properties.
When they made the Memory Tardis clips, I said this is a Wake. Somewhere for us to remember, think about the good times, and, well we just have to carry on. The Doctor died! Our Doctor died! Remember the good times, this isn't the Dr Who we grew up on. That dream is gone, unfortunately. Remember when Doctor meant Healer, Fixer, Space Karate, Glib comments, a Manic smile, and a Screwdriver that worked on everything except wood and RUN! Now its a Social Warrior, Like the message, or be Hated and Insulted. Its Depressing. Are there any Hero's left in Pop Culture?
Even the memory tardis is messed up. They just keep piling in leftist social junk like turning Tegan and Nyssa into lesbians. It's not brave; it's stupid and insulting to the original fans
There is something really depressing about the fact that all of the shows, films and books I read as a kid and young adult have been bastardised into a hot mess of diversity, woke social justice tosh. Be it Dr Who, Star Wars, James Bond, Indiana Jones, Star Trek etc.
Marvel and DC's superhero comics have gotten badly hit as well. Now that sales have cratered they've decided maybe all the diversity hires weren't such a good idea.
Are you fucking? Star Trek has ALWAYS been all of that. Dr. Who, too. No idea what in the piss you're on about with Bond and Indiana Jones unless you're talking about Bond being more real instead of camp of pre-Craig. And Indiana is woke as far as trying to win over obvious bad guys like Nazi's, Bolshevik Communists and whatever the hell the newest movie was about.
What annoys me the most about this particular "Doctor" is that he's not playing the character, the Narcissist is just playing himself. I also don't consider him to be the REAL Doctor (Hartnel to Capaldi) based on the dumb Bi-Generation (way to be subtle there Russel) off of David Tennant. This "Doctor" just spawned off someone else like a Gremlin.
@@mayotango1317 Don't ever recall Tom insulting fans or demanding they love him or else. Try again, luv. Go back to school and grow a brain while you're at it.
@@codyw1 Matthew Waterhouse says something else, especially how drunk the diva jerk used to get. Ncuti Gatwa was only honest, you guys only live on hate and trolling. Especially listening to a loser like Dalewstrek or Nerdrotic who doesn't know how to tell Cassandra Nova from Polaris in the Deadpool 3 trailer.
Narcissism is the one word that pops in my head every time I hear one of these melodramatics in acting or music speak about diversity. I work in the music industry and bands and artists talk the DEI talk but actually say nothing at all. When I ask them about diversity of thought or opinion they say things like "thats just a right wing troupe or thats just a dog whistle for the alt-right". When you drill down and pretend you are on their side they say things that would make a mid century german say WTF. Its all just egalitarian BS and liberal racism cloaked as a savior complex. They are true believers and its disheartening to see it play out in real time!! These people were considered fringe outsiders with kooky ideas and left over commies in the 90s and how they rose to be the mainstream of culture is shocking to me!
"She laid out her sketches on the table, and I saw whips and chains and all kinds of gender-pushing, societal-pushing toys. "And I was like, 'Yes, let’s do all of them.'" 😂
There’s a difference between inclusion and dropping one set of fans for a completely different set of fans. Literally that is the opposite of inclusion
The fuck do you mean? Gatwa was not a DEI hire. You people act like DEI is some kind of boogie man. He was picked because RTD thought he would be good as The Doctor. Remember: RTD is the reason Doctor who came back in 2005 and he was the one who casted Christopher Eccleston and David Tennant. Gutwa without a doubt earned it. Being at the center of the DW brand is very difficult according Matt Smith and Peter Capaldi. Gutwa would not have been made the 15th doctor if RTD thought he couldn’t handle it or wasn’t right for the role. I would trust the judgement of the man who brought the show back over the judgement of people online who for the most part don’t watch the show.
True. It was this nice and sometimes spooky show about this charming yet strange man traveling around all of time and space and protecting the Earth (mostly the latter thanks to Jon Pertwee's run; the budget had to be cut and so a lot of the show was basically earthbound for a while).
It's not even fan fiction, which has the distinct merit of at least being written by people who love the source material. This is anti-art and anti-fiction, where all the basic rules of narrative drama are ignored, the conceptual premise of the show is mocked, and the loyal audience are left feeling humiliated and shamed. And it's so very deliberate.
Can you imagine if other corporations treated their biggest globally-renowned brands how the BBC treated Dr Who? "Starbucks - Not for CIS White Males...", or "Nike - Just Do It, unless you're tr-nsphobic!"😂
The thing is…Nike’s already kinda done that, and women hate them for it. They hired a guy (the same guy who crashed budlight) for pretending to be a woman to condescendingly impersonate women to tell us to buy Product. They put a dude in a sports bra to market sports bras to women.
Where has this belief that Britain lacks diversity come from? I was born in the UK and it was always a melting pot for as long as I can remember. London has always been diverse. When I lived there I worked with people of all backgrounds and cultures and identities. And all the major cities have a mixture of cultures and people. As most major cities in Europe do. These folks are wasting their time fighting a battle that's already been won. (And as far as descrimination and racism, you'll never wipe that out completely. There will always be asshats.)
Yeah, and another thing about that is that a lot of the diversity in the UK comes directly from its history, so I would argue that a better way to diversify the Doctor's role would be to hire an Indian actor or maybe an actor from the parts of Hong Kong that had a lot of British influence. I'm sure either of those casting decisions would also spark backlash, but at least they would make more sense. That's not to say that the current Doctor couldn't fit the role due to his Rwandan descent, but his acting and the complete change of character kind of undermine the argument that he was hired as the best option for the role. The sexual identity aspect really doesn't fit with the show at all, and the genderbend was pointless. I remember there was a lot of speculation as to whether previous Doctors were asexual, but at least that was a case of theorizing that was not directly stated in the show.
@kmartradio This a recent thing. Modern Writing and Ideas have completely destroyed entertainment back then people had sense and respect and wrote things to fit all sides.
@generalgrievous398 false movies and tv always was more on the left. For example in the 70s all in the family was a show making fun of conservative bigots.
@kmartradio We're talking about Doctor Who here the modern version is a complete shell of its former self. And Yes tv in the 70s did do all that but again Good writing existed Remember that? No? Oh well it's maybe because we haven't had it for so long.
It wasn't just that he was crippled, he was damaged, and unnatural, prolonging his life because he couldn't bear the thought of losing it, and was terrified of death. Davros was meant to be the anti-Doctor, selfish and sickly, unwilling to let go.
Beautifully put. I recently watched several compilation videos of previous doctors that showcased his moments of anger, his absent-mindedness and social awkwardness, and I immediately thought “Ncuti Gatwa doesn’t have any of that. In fact, he looks like he came straight from Club Med.” And that, my friends, is just not the Doctor.
There were 12 doctors, plus the War Doctor. Nothing else is canon. It speaks volumes that the classic series, with cardboard sets and a £5 per episode budget, is better written, better acted and more entertaining, than the current shite sub-fan fiction.
"Nothing else is canon" in your mind maybe. In fact, the canon is controlled by the rights holders who can do whatever they jolly well please. Timeless child is canon. Bi-generation is canon. Lesbian Doctor is canon. Bi Tenant is canon. They won. They destroyed it. They did it intentionally to stick it to the straight white majority. They did with hatred in their hearts, because they hate who they are and someone must pay.
To be fair, Peter Davison, Colin Baker and Sylvester McCoy were all utter shite! The show has been a roller coaster over the decades. We are in another big dip currently!
DW was a hero when I was a boy. What other sci-fi character fought aliens without guns? None. Thus, I became sorta anti-gun throughout my life (sorta, not always, cause the Doctor still killed people and took care of trouble). Fast forward 20 years into the future and I see kids going "Whenever I see a person going into a bank with a gun, I do what the Doctor did - I twerk!" Yeah, not exactly the same.
@@TheRealMichaelH True bro. The Doctor ended on a happy note, spending his last night with his wife before she went on to be saved by his younger self. The End.
England has watched American film and tv imploding and thought that it would be a good idea to mimic those practices. Instead of destroying existing IP, why don't you create a new one? Clearly, British writers are as skilled as their American counterparts. Maybe it's time to strike?
It all stems from Critical Theory running amok throughout the Anglo-Western upper middle classes. The state of Dr Who merely represents the mass conformity of the North London elite (especially in media circles). The frustrating thing is that the majority of people, whilst 'progressive', at least somewhat see through it all, but they daren't say anything (ironic, given that it arguably completely undermines the central premise of critical theory / the intersectional hierarchy).
I’m wondering who the intended audience is. It’s not made for the older viewers, so are young people really that much into this show? Are there kids in their twenties holding their breath for the new Dr. Who?
I am one of those young people, and no, none of us are watching it. They want to appeal it to the activist morons who endlessly demand and tantrum for this sort of thing, not realizing that those scum don’t actually watch these productions. I grew up on doctor who, but I would never watch it now. They had a whole new generation growing up with it and loving it, and then they killed it in our name. They’re out of touch.
"Listen this advice could save you life... Don't blink don't even blink blink and your dead they're fast faster than you could possibly imagine DON'T turn your back DON'T look away AND DON'T BLINK... good luck".
Let's recontextualize those debut ratings: William Hartnell debut episode "An Unearthly Child" that drew 4.4 million people in 1963. British population in 1963: 54 million Ncuti Gatwa's debut episode "The Church on Ruby Road" drew 4.7 million people in 2024. British population in 2024: 70 million
Let's recontextualize those debut ratings: Ncuti Gatwa's debut episode "The Church on Ruby Road" drew 6.2 million people in 2024. Over 450 channels 100s of streaming services 1000s of video games 10s of Social media video channel William Hartnell debut episode "An Unearthly Child" that drew 4.4 million people in 1963. 3 Channels
@@studyaccount6987 2024- Dr. Who well known UK TV series that has been shown all over Asia, Africa, Oceania and North America. 1963- some new kid's show about a man who lives in a phone box or something?
In Ncuti's defence, the show had lost a great deal during Chibnall's... attempts at writing Jodie's doctor. He could've been better had he A. Not been directed by Chibnall, and B. followed Capaldi, Matt Smith, or a Jodie directed by anyone but Chibnall. Not saying he was overly good, I'm still subjecting myself to the cruel and unusual punishment that is Chibnall's 13th doctor and having to take days in-between episodes to recover from the crinjuries I endure from cringing so hard while watching.
@@studyaccount6987 So you're saying that more distraction due to social media and streaming services in 2024 somehow compares to 1963 with just radio, movie theaters and TV's with 12 stations? Cool.
They can't create their own characters and shows. They can only seem to take successful IPs and corrupt and modify them. They hope to rope in a majority of the current audience and will shame them into liking it until they are used to the "new" theme and flavor.
Maybe if the make a series 15 they could octuple down on die...er dei and make the doctor a black gay transgender lesbian in a hoverchair who has the mental age of a 12 year old to check every box...that will work this time. (wonders what they are smoking to get some or avoid it at all costs)
The irony is that a female Doctor and even a gay black male Doctor could actually work, but not like this! Gatwa could be a good Doctor if he doesn't overplay his gayness and he responds appropriately to the alien threats, after all, an alien threat is the same whether you are gay or straight. The fact that he is black is neither here nor there. I'd support Idris Elba for the Doctor. Racism isn't an issue here.
NGL, it was pretty funny to see how unapologetic and predictable the move from female to black Dr, a move so transparent in its motivations that I'm willing to bet the next Dr will be both female AND black.
2006 to 2015 was the golden era of the morden series David tenant, Matt smith and Peter Capaldi where truly one the most iconic actors that played the doctor, I really miss the playsets and action figure waves they used to have during 2006 to 2015
The biggest problem I have with this video is that you call Doctor Who a childrens show. This is the same arguement hacks have used to defend star wars. I prefer to think of Doctor Who (or what it was) as a family show. Something that mom and dad like, but will also keep little Timmy entertained. By delving into politics (further than was acceptable for even Doctor Who) they have alienated that family audience, trying to chase childless, sexless millenials.
Interesting that a supposed "actor" does not seem to understand the "Yes and..." rule. You can make incremental changes but you have to acknowledge what has come before.
@@kuggacouragegx6093 The number one rule in improvisational acting is "Yes, And..." which means that you are allowed to change things in the story, but only if you accept what happened earlier. You never shut down what the other actor did before you or it shuts down the entire routine. You roll with it and play the game with everyone else. I think what Kentlindal is trying to say is that the new actor for the Doctor (and most everyone else involved in the show) is refusing to say "Yes, And..." by instead trying to shut down all of the prior development of the series and do something different with it.
You characterised the Doctor pretty well. I would even say your characterisation of the character is the most accurate. The Doctor is, for all intents and purposes, the same character throughout the regenerative process. All that really changes is the face, costume and certain mannerisms. What started out as an idea to prolong a show that had an older actor as the lead grew into a very interesting analysis of the multifaceted yet congruent nature of being, the Doctor being the perfect visualisation of how people can change yet still stay the same.
Precisely. The Doctor should always be seen as 1 singular person. I've always hated when the show (particularly in New Who) would have the Doctor say "I've had so many faces, been so many people". No! He's one guy who changes, not multiple people or personalities!
Can't we just have a fun show about an alien with two hearts who time travels and defeats the bad guys while being awkward, cool and in charge, you know, like it had been for decades. Why does everything need to be about a message being hammered over and over again. Can't we just have great stories with great characters, again, like it used to be.
I’ve recently been watching some of Tom Baker’s run and it really is tremendous. The writing is intelligent and fun. The actors are great (a lot of British stage and screen stalwarts) and best of all, they take it seriously and treat the audience with respect. Unfortunately that is now a thing of the past. At least we can still enjoy those old episodes.
@@OneofInfinity. Plot twist, the Roman Empire never fell, it took itself down knowing what was coming next. Romulus Augustulus did the right thing in hindsight, it seems their buildings weren't the only things ahead of their time.
This is one of the many reasons why I stopped watching Doctor Who after Peter Capaldi left the role. Instead of writing entertainment, they instead disrespect the franchise and the fans by creating propaganda and woke agendas, while at the same time claiming that this garbage is well writen and for everyone.
Also the current census figures are probably a low estimate as utility and supermarket data puts actual population estimates over 70 million if I recall correctly.
yeah but that 15 million increase is filled with people that dont belong in a first world country. And yes they don't, if their species is incapable of creating a first world country in their native lands they sure as shiznit don't belong in the countries of people who have.
What do you bet that the episode where Gatwa leaves the Lib bubble and goes into the countryside all the while "helping" the "stodgy and calcified locals" learn the value of "Diversity". Bonus points if there's a token minority of any stripe being bullied. Triple bonus if the big musical number episode is this episode ripping off Dirty Dancing.
We had that for one movie. It was called "Fantastic Beasts And Where To Find Them". But the studio didn't know or value what they had. They could have sent Newt anywhere, with his companions, bigger-on-the-inside office, lock-opening lapel celery. Instead they ruined the sequels with wokeness and memberberries.
What was once an art of reflecting your audience in a way that made them proud or introspective has been replaced. It is now an artist performing to an audience of mirrors. Once, the art failed if it didn't refect the audience, now the audience fails if it doesn't reflect the artist. Artists are self imposed prisoners in a room of mirrors, lost in the infinite reflects of themselves, convinced they're seeing the real world.
I have friends from all over the place and find it disturbing that there is some kind of freedom fighters out there that has to remind them of their skin colour? I would tell those people! Hey!! They are people! Not a colour
@@Gibson1976uk I get it but our skin color is immutable. It is not something we can chalk up to chance. It’s who we are. More time than not people group together based on color but obviously it’s more than that but that IS a factor.
Dear Echo, I remember an interview where Tom Baker said he thought the role of the Doctor was 'actor proof.' I wonder if he still feels the same way? Frank.
"twerk the monster to death" and this is the point you really nee to ask: do you live in this universe? no amount of twerking will stop the bear from mauling you, a knife, a gun or if nothing else a punch will, or may stop it, twerking won't.
Torchwood was wildly popular and every lead character has had some romantic scene with both men and women at any point in the show. The Doctor Who universe never had anything to prove, the fans are not bigots that need to be lectured to. And yet they did it anyway.
Ncuti isn’t even Scottish. He’s a Rwandan immigrant with UK citizenship. This is the first time in the series history that a non native Brit has taken on the role. The BBC isn’t even trying to mask its contempt for lore and tradition.
I miss the days when the normies didn't know about this show. Once they realized it was there, the downward spiral began. It crashed and burned years ago. Now they just dress up the corpse.
Similar things happened to gaming when it went from its niche to the mainstream masses. People see it as a cash cow and milk the crap out of it. The quality doesn't even matter to them as long as the stale old milk sells well enough.
It happens every time normies discover anything nerd-related. They completely destroy it and then turn it into a mockery of its former self that constantly smirks at you and rolls its eyes over how stupid it is and how stupid you are for liking it, then have the gall to tell you "You're cool now! Everybody loves the thing you like!" while making you feel even less accepted in the place you once called home. Yuck.
So we repeatedly hear from people that they grew up with a show and it helped them find themselves blah, blah, blah; then in the next breath these same people are saying how they to change everything so people today can see themselves in that show. Doesn't add up.
I'm from the generation that watched Red Dwarf instead of Doctor Who and every few years when it has been revived Red Dwarf has always been great. Sorry, Who fans.
I've been a whovian since the 1970s and I pretty much checked out in Capaldi's 2 season. I tried to give Jodie a chance but I just could not stand the writing. no one wants to be lectured, they want to escape.
The "everything trickles down from the top" comment is doubly annoying, as 1, it implies everyone is a mindless sheep in need of guidance & 2, its the politicians who react & pander to what they perceive to be the dominant public opinion.
Doctor Who is gone. We're well past rigor mortis. This thing that claims to be the Doctor Who Program bears no resemblance to it beyond inherited sets and titles.
I don't know or follow doctor who but what i can say is Doctor who went from being batman to batwoman over night and that killed this beloved franchise
Have you seen the director on his relationship with the actor? They're definitely getting down behind the scenes, one would say why he's running around in his underwear or the camera is constantly him.
At some point we have to accept that there was once a Great Age of Television Storytelling, and it’s over. I’m going to spend my time watching old shows from last century.
The series messages are about as subtle as a cactus enema. In their need to say "look at me" they have done huge damage. Rather than opening social doors they have encouraged people to put up walls. Far from advancing LGBT acceptance, they have poured fuel on the fire of hate. Nice job Chibnall et al.
You had me up until the "RIP" bit. I would sincerely love it if everyone in this comment thread put their energy into creating fan fiction instead of burning it all up with resentment.
One silver lining I see is, the longer this madness goes on, the more and more classic Who will stand out and apart. Same goes with classic Trek, Star Wars, etc.
We don't have actors today. What we have are a bunch of narcissists who play themselves with a different name and outfit.
And any and all of them fail upwards
That's what's been monetized
97% agree, there's still a few good actual actors out there (until they say something stupid)
basically, narcissists under the flag of actor.
lmao imagine saying this under a video about doctor who
the vast majority of the classic doctors were just playing themselves, Tom Baker most notably
Davros was never disabled. He was a 2 million year old mummy on technological life support! Writers that can't tell the difference should lose their jobs.
A yes when sumones get blown up and put on life support they aren't disabled.
@@mechakrakenNo they're a vegetable. people on life support aren't riding around in wheelchairs .
@@thedeadpoolwhochuckles.6852Oxford dictionary definition. "a piece of equipment that keeps somebody alive when they are extremely ill and cannot breathe without help"
By definition you are wrong. You can be conscious while using one and As long as the life support system is small enough you can take it on a motorised wheel chair. Not to mention his is probably 1000s of years more advanced than we have.
So, they think that if you are disabled, you can't also be evil! If Davros had red hair, would that associate being evil with being Ginger? Oh we'll just make Davros an able-bodied middle aged heterosexual white guy, they are all evil, aren't they??
Davros sacrificed his body for his "children". He's not disabled, he did it to himself willingly.
They hate you, you walk away, they hate you more because you walked away.
Who tf hates him? Also u idiots don't watch the show
Thanks for describing this guy. It fits nerdotic and bowlstreak too. Nce. Them hating on doctor who anyway
@@DJ-LD I feel like video essays have just died and turned into whatever this video is
He needs to just go away.
Makes me want to return just to walk away again.
England has fallen so completely for a reason.
There will be a breaking point.
Funny how having Davros in a wheelchair might be insulting to people in wheelchairs but portraying him as an old white bloke isn't insulting to old white blokes. Somehow.
You have it somewhat wrong. It's not that they don't want to insult people in wheelchairs, they don't want people associating disabilities with evilness. Which is the funny part, because they are the ones who clearly made that association in their own heads and assume everyone else will too.
It is insulting, and they do know that. That's the point.
They didn't "want to associate evilness with disabilities" but NO ONE WAS DOING THAT. It's so insane. It's like just because you, the current showrunners somehow associate disabilities with evil people doesn't mean literally everyone else does. That says far, far, faaaar more about these "We're so inclusive!" idiots than it does the general population. And they don't even realize that's what they said about themselves.
@@Nixlplix You mean I was wrong for all those years to slap random strangers in wheelchairs crying out 'this is for the genocide of the Thals' and 'Go back to Skaro mutant'. Ah gee, have I some apology letters to write.
It's funny, because evil takes many forms, even in the most unsuspecting places.
Should be called "Dr. Why?"
Dr. Where?
Dr. WTF
Dr. Stereotype
Dr.twerk-master-3000
Dr. What The Hell Is Even That?
So the 12th doctor truly was the last doctor.
So, basically, Matt Smith...
@@DAZzler3K That's 11th
Pretty much
@@egg2520 You forgot to include John Hurt as the _War Doctor_ which they have to shoehorn in after Paul McGann (# 8) because Eccleston refused to return for the 50th Anniversary. That makes the _War Doctor_ # 9, Eccleston #10, Tennant # 11 and Matt Smith the 12th and final incarnation of the Doctor. And there they should've stopped...
@@DAZzler3K
I would have liked if Trenzalore was the actual end. Like the Time Lords decide to make the Doctor young but that's it, so he decides to retire in peace.
I got off doctor who towards the end of capaldi. Boy what a blessing that turned out to be
It was the 2015 Christmas special with me. I just got bored with Modern Who, I still go back and watch the Classics repeatedly though.
Heaven sent and hell bent are a great ending to the show (with the wedding of river song as a fine addendum)
@@Grimmlocked I'm still of the opinion that Modern Who had at least three chances to end, 1) around the 50th anniversary/2013 Christmas special, 2) 2015 Christmas special, & 3) 2017 Christmas special from what I understand but they had to just keep going.
Start of Matt Smith for me. 😅 I used to love the old black n white reruns when I was a lad...
I saw a few Capaldi episodes and thought he was great in the role, but poorly served by the writers. I'd already lost interest but did catch the first Jodie Whittaker episode at a friend's house and I just felt embarrassed for all concerned. Doctor Cringe.
They haven’t just killed Doctor Who,they’ve burned away everything good and are just pissing on the ashes.
It is 100% impossible for your statement to be any more accurate then it all ready is.
Note that the British Prime Minister, Scottish First Minister and Welsh First Minister are all unelected.
The PM is never elected by the public. In a general election the public votes for their local MP.
All of them pushing the boundaries of tolerance and increasing attraction to populist nationalists. For better or worse in the long run.
Totally normal democratic phenomenon
The _a l i e n s_ we had to worry about were never the Slitheen!
elected by the WEF and UN
They don’t actually care if the “modern audience” shows up or not. They just want to destroy what the rest of us once enjoyed.
If it was about representation or equality, their would be a push like in the past when people made their own shows. Their would be a push for more unique stories with "diverse" casts. But it's been 90% rewrites, remakes, and subversion. They steal an IP, tell you they hate everything about it, then show you they hate everything about it, and you're supposed to clap because it's now "diverse."
I'm black. I grew up watching shows with everything under the sun. I went from watching stuff freely to now being wary when something seems "diverse." The worst part is, is when the wariness is proven right.
Show proof they want to destroy things
@@sianaisstfu. Also u aren't black.
Ppl done that countless times and u iditos still complain about it
True. They just see us having nice things and saying 'Nope! You're not allowed to have nice things!'
Activists aren't happy. That's the reason that they *become* activists. Since misery loves company, they want to ruin everything that you enjoy.
I can guarantee no Welsh, English, Northern Irish or any other British culture will be reflected in this costume that includes a screwdriver and rings with a Rwandan proverb on them.
Besides the kilt… I mean skirt.
It's not a kilt without a sporran (the purse like thing on the front). So he's just wearing a dress.
You do realise he wears a bunch of costumes throughout the series
@@edwardreed67 You do realize they are doing social engineering on the masses not entertainment, right?
@@DrWarbird What the fuck does that have to do with costumes?
@@edwardreed67
The costume only really changes with the actor. The Doctor has always had a certain style going on, with changes usually being smaller when we're talking the same regeneration.
For example:
The 2nd Doctor always wore ill fitting clothes and a crooked bowtie. If you look closely sometimes his pants had a different pattern.
The 3rd Doctor always wore a smoking jacket even if it was a different color, same with his cloak.
The 4th Doctor always wore a long scarf, even if it wasn't always the same colour.
The 5th Doctor's shirt sometimes had red or green on the inside of the collar, and his pants occasionally changed colour ever so slightly, but it was still the same outfit.
The 6th Doctor was obviously a mess but somehow still pretty consistent considering the colourful theme around it.
The 7th Doctor always had his panama hat on, even with the movie outfit, which was the least similar to his original one.
The 8th Doctor's outfit was still a green coat and waistcoat underneath, as seen in his first and last appearance, even if the clothes themselves were different, so he was still recognizable.
The 9th Doctor had the least change, only changing his jumper.
The 10th Doctor had 2 whole suits, but both fitting the same design. He still had his coat to tie them together.
The 11th Doctor always had his bowtie, even if ditched the tweed jacket for his purple coat, the green coat acting as a bit of a transit outfit.
The 12th Doctor had that mess at the end where they put the hoodie together with the shirt and waistcoat, but otherwise his outfit was pretty solid and didn't change much, his most recognizable feature being the fact he wore his shirt completely done up, his three coats being the same design even if differing in terms of color and material.
The 13th Doctor was ironically pretty stable, but her outfit was a hot mess. Not like 6, but still.
The 14th Doctor was meh and he didn't even change his outfit at all.
I think you get my point.
Since I'm gay myself, I could never figure out what it is that turns me off so much about actors like him and their identity politics and even the whole diversity and inclusion thing. I think the thing I hate is their self-congratulation and self-glorification. And the way that they denigrate everybody else with their condescending lectures in order to make themselves look heroic. And they don't seem to realize or care that this is the reason that people dislike them. It's their attitude of moral superiority .
I have no doubt since it all started that it is reverse psy, pushing it to incite hate, same happening with more current events, divide and... tactics.
Their narcissism makes them blind to the damage they are causing to themselves.
I hope u can still read what I replied, I can't.
The trouble with politicizing Homosexuality is that you can disagree with a notion in politics so we either end up with Homosexuality you can disagree with or enforced homosexuality and an abandonment of our political values.Either way its bad for Gay people and straight alike.
One big reason as someone else who is also part of the G is that it feels inauthentic
My gay cousin, and his black, gay friend....HATE this.
The Red Nose Day special with Rowan Atkinson was supposed to be a parody, yet it has more charm and love for the original than any Doctor Who series since Capaldi's run.
Remember when Britain was constantly at the vanguard of clever writing and ideas, a veritable breeding ground from which Hollywood would pull tomorrow’s next global hit? Yeah, those days are long gone.
Blake's 7, Sapphire and Steel, Man From Uncle and all done on shoestring budgets compared to American programmes of the time.
It's amazing how many activists claim to have found solace in worlds like Doctor Who (as it was) then want to completely obliterate it, then remake it to suit to their current ideals.
You forgot to mention that Hartnell's debut was overshadowed by the Kennedy assasination which dominated the TV at the time. It would have been the equivalent of debuting something right after 9/11 or something equally big. So the new Dr Who can only just beat out an episode drowned out by a global event in the 60s. Says a lot.
The BBC repeated the first episode the following week, before screening the second. On that occasion, An Unearthly Child got six million viewers. The Church on Ruby Road had consolidated figures of 7.49 million, so one could argue it got more viewers than AUC, or fewer, based purely on those two screenings in November 1963 (when the population was smaller and not everybody owned a TV set). I think we all know which of the two is the better episode, in terms of script and acting etc.
It aired, what, the next day?! I don't know how this is never remembered. I wasn't even alive back then but, despite being a child, I was agog at finding out that the premiere episode had been up against news that world-shaking. I have never forgotten that. It is part of the glorious legend and legacy of the show and cannot be repeated enough.
After something like that, it's the darker, more topical shows that thrive. After 9/11, for example, "24" saw a massive boost in viewership that led to the show's meteoric rise in the US. Same goes for Battlestar Galactica.
@@jaffarebellion292
An interesting observation; thank you for that.
And, did you mean the latter incarnation of Galactica?
@@systembinarygaming Yeah. The Ronald D. Moore version.
Russell T Davis was on Breakfast TV here in the UK, and he goes, 'It's 61 years old, but the last 61 years don't matter...' So yes, here we are. What has gone before is irrelivant. Just forget about it. The sad, sad reality of our times. sigh
Did he actually said that?
@@gameover9390 He really did. I simply couldn't believe my ears. I watch the clip again on iPlayer to see if I'd mis-heard him, but no. A complete disregard of the past, the canon, of everything.
@@toxictony4230 I think I’m going to need a minute or two just to process that.
I think you guys might be misinterpreting that. Just before then, he says that the show keeps moving on and evolving, and earlier he talks about how any new viewer doesn't need to know anything about past lore to jump in. I don't take that to mean that past lore is irrelevant (the specials had loads of callbacks), but rather that they're not shackled by it and are focusing on the new, which is something the writers have always been doing. DW lore is massively contradictory, don't forget. There are two origin stories for the Daleks, the Doctor is given different numbers of regenerations, used to have one heart, is stated to be half-human in the 1996 movie and yet also the timeless child. When he says it "doesn't matter", it means that the writers can focus on making interesting stories without worrying about the wiki, and that sort of fresh start is what RTD did back in 2005 anyway. Thinking he meant "just forget about the past" is reading in malintent that's not there imo.
@@Nebula.Dragon _"the writers can focus on making interesting stories without worrying about the wiki, and that sort of fresh start is what RTD did back in 2005 anyway."_
And good writers are actually able to write stuff that dances with the old while respecting it, instead of trying to rewrite it. Or was something like Timeless Children something that was especially needed or that interesting to rewrite origin of the Doctor? I remember there was plenty of interesting stories e.g. for Eccleston, Tennant and Smith which did not try to rewrite the lore still being highly praised both by critics and audiences. How did they ever manage to do that? Or was it before they tried injecting modern day politics in to everything.
Based on user ratings and viewing figures episodes like Timeless Children which many seem to disdain did not seem to hit very high marks. Compared to The Waters of Mars, Midnight or e.g. Blink.
To say you need to constantly rewrite the old to be able to write interesting stories that would tell quite a lot about about you as a writer, words like unimaginative and self centered come to mind. In a world like doctor Who there is little obstacles to actually create something wholly new and creative only limit being budget - how to actually practically portray something totally imaginary while staying within limited budget.
Example from another world is Don Rosa, an former Disney artist who loved Carl Barks stories and practically wrote most of his most popular and refered stuff basing and leaning on Barks stories and references. Rosa among Barks is on the most loved Duck/McDuck storytellers. Somehow Rosa managed to create lot's of great and interesting stories while worrying about the lore and characters Barks had created mostly feeling sorry if he had to do some minor changes or retcons. Funny how all that works.
For me the doctor died in the space ship in The Doctor Falls. He died where he stood, fighting just because it was right. He died as the best possible version of himself. Not guilt ridden and angry like the 9th, not like 10th's god complex or with the need to just save everyone like the 11th.
He died fighting just because it was right and kind and thats what he swore to die for: kindness.
I will never accept this defiling to the corpse of such a great man as canon.
I have not heard a more compassionate and succinct appreciation than this - and that is set against so many others posted here. I used to help my son make DW videos when the camera was the size and weight of a wardrobe. He, and I, once, totally immersed in the unlimited creativity and capacity of the myriad multiverse DW could conjure on a peanuts budget. Now it’s DEI preening drivel. Kids need to be behind the sofa safely frightened again. What about the Weeping Angels returning as a metaphorical construct of the evils of pernicious Social Media? And a Doctor with some authority. End of hissy-fit. Regards all . John K. And yes, I vividly remember that day when JFK was murdered. 🦖
That...was beautiful, man. Made me tear up!
Capaldi was *so* good. I didn't care for Smith, and I hated Clara, but other than her 12 would be my favorite Doctor.
A 50 year old science fiction TV classic ruined. Irreparably.
Stupid. It is over 60 years.
Also it isn't ruined
@@kuggacouragegx6093 It is ruined and don't be so rude. Everything wrong with society.
@@flyhyland stupid it isn't ruined.
Yall are reaching cause yall weren't even fans,also don't tell me not to be rude yet u idiots are just being racist and homophobic clowns and wish death for the show and wishing harm in the actor just cause he is black
@@kuggacouragegx6093Exactly. I want more twerking gay black men in my british science fiction show!
It's been canceled before (and even lost some episodes forever) so it can be saved and rebuilt again.
Peter Capaldi was the last Doctor, and nobody can convince me otherwise.
I have no problem with the Doctor being a woman, or the Doctor being black... Except that when they did that they stopped being "the Doctor," because suddenly those were their defining traits. Not the Doctor's cleverness, otherworldly intelligence, kindness, and compassion. Every regeneration has their own unique personality, but they all had that spark that makes the Doctor who they are. And that spark is just missing from these new Doctors. They don't care about writing Doctor Who, they care about preaching a message.
A brilliant, succinct account of why Doctor Who is currently absolute shite
It’s not. He fails on many levels.
He makes no real points. He could have discussed the writing issues present in series 11 but he went after 13 and Yaz being in a relationship in series 13 instead.
He makes so many basic errors that it’s clear he doesn’t watch Doctor Who
@@AnomalySource The writing is shit, the story lost its magic ages ago, there easy, don't need a whole video for it
I can’t believe this man is the purest gay stereotype I think I could find.
Very odd.
Look up 2 broke girls, season 2, the launch episode, another stereotypical gay black dude
@@tagir9123They’re all the same
How tf he is a gay stereotype
@@tagir9123how
@@alexman378no u just racist and homophobic
This gentleman is simply just not in a position to discuss 'mediocrity' in others from what I have seen.
Giving the bits I was able to watch without wincing, he is an expert at being mediocre.
@@yourikhan4425Like the fart aliens or the melodrama of Rose live?
@@mayotango1317 Are you implying that when he mentioned "white mediocrity" being celebrated, he was referring to RTD's writing? Interesting take.
@@demaupin Is not the same?
@@demaupin RTD has written some of the best TV scripts I've read
Are they still gaslighting us into thinking Disney has no involvement in the show?
“Season 1”.
Yeah, i knew i was right to feel uneasy about them buying the rights to the show.
The problem is, it's already hard enough to find the original seasons with Hartnell and co. and now they're reusing the "Season" branding over Series, combined with the fact they're going from season "1" again which is going to further obscure the original show too.
It's really quite sad.
@@BlueEyedVibeChecker At least they’re on iplayer, minus an unearthly child which is hung up in a legal battle right now.
An Unearthly Child is on DVD. It comes as a box set with The Daleks & The Edge of Destruction. The set is called The Beginning.
The idiots that decided to take the BBC's best IP and partner with Disney need sacking; they really do.
Disney has vandalised _their_ best IP's and ran everything into the ground, imagine what they're going to do with the BBC's properties.
When they made the Memory Tardis clips, I said this is a Wake. Somewhere for us to remember, think about the good times, and, well we just have to carry on. The Doctor died! Our Doctor died! Remember the good times, this isn't the Dr Who we grew up on. That dream is gone, unfortunately. Remember when Doctor meant Healer, Fixer, Space Karate, Glib comments, a Manic smile, and a Screwdriver that worked on everything except wood and RUN! Now its a Social Warrior, Like the message, or be Hated and Insulted. Its Depressing. Are there any Hero's left in Pop Culture?
Even the memory tardis is messed up. They just keep piling in leftist social junk like turning Tegan and Nyssa into lesbians. It's not brave; it's stupid and insulting to the original fans
There is no greater sorrow than to recall, in misery, the time when we were happy - Dante AligherI
There is something really depressing about the fact that all of the shows, films and books I read as a kid and young adult have been bastardised into a hot mess of diversity, woke social justice tosh.
Be it Dr Who, Star Wars, James Bond, Indiana Jones, Star Trek etc.
Marvel and DC's superhero comics have gotten badly hit as well. Now that sales have cratered they've decided maybe all the diversity hires weren't such a good idea.
= Nothing to look up too.
Are you fucking? Star Trek has ALWAYS been all of that. Dr. Who, too. No idea what in the piss you're on about with Bond and Indiana Jones unless you're talking about Bond being more real instead of camp of pre-Craig. And Indiana is woke as far as trying to win over obvious bad guys like Nazi's, Bolshevik Communists and whatever the hell the newest movie was about.
What annoys me the most about this particular "Doctor" is that he's not playing the character, the Narcissist is just playing himself.
I also don't consider him to be the REAL Doctor (Hartnel to Capaldi) based on the dumb Bi-Generation (way to be subtle there Russel) off of David Tennant. This "Doctor" just spawned off someone else like a Gremlin.
Like everybody, even Tom Baker is just a diva.
Its more like a spawn of Russell T Davies gayness. Maybe he has the hots for Gatwa.
The real Doctor walked off into the sunset with Ace and was never seen again.
@@mayotango1317 Don't ever recall Tom insulting fans or demanding they love him or else. Try again, luv. Go back to school and grow a brain while you're at it.
@@codyw1 Matthew Waterhouse says something else, especially how drunk the diva jerk used to get.
Ncuti Gatwa was only honest, you guys only live on hate and trolling.
Especially listening to a loser like Dalewstrek or Nerdrotic who doesn't know how to tell Cassandra Nova from Polaris in the Deadpool 3 trailer.
Narcissism is the one word that pops in my head every time I hear one of these melodramatics in acting or music speak about diversity. I work in the music industry and bands and artists talk the DEI talk but actually say nothing at all. When I ask them about diversity of thought or opinion they say things like "thats just a right wing troupe or thats just a dog whistle for the alt-right". When you drill down and pretend you are on their side they say things that would make a mid century german say WTF. Its all just egalitarian BS and liberal racism cloaked as a savior complex. They are true believers and its disheartening to see it play out in real time!! These people were considered fringe outsiders with kooky ideas and left over commies in the 90s and how they rose to be the mainstream of culture is shocking to me!
Kind hypocrite because Tom Baker is worst.
@@mayotango1317Tom Bakers better than Ncuti will ever be
"She laid out her sketches on the table, and I saw whips and chains and all kinds of gender-pushing, societal-pushing toys. "And I was like, 'Yes, let’s do all of them.'" 😂
Sonic screwdriver to be replaced by sonic buttplug
There’s a difference between inclusion and dropping one set of fans for a completely different set of fans. Literally that is the opposite of inclusion
the mediocre actor is calling others mediocre, doesn't see he himself is an mediocre DEI hire. Not surprising from the DEI hire.
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The fuck do you mean? Gatwa was not a DEI hire. You people act like DEI is some kind of boogie man.
He was picked because RTD thought he would be good as The Doctor. Remember: RTD is the reason Doctor who came back in 2005 and he was the one who casted Christopher Eccleston and David Tennant.
Gutwa without a doubt earned it. Being at the center of the DW brand is very difficult according Matt Smith and Peter Capaldi. Gutwa would not have been made the 15th doctor if RTD thought he couldn’t handle it or wasn’t right for the role.
I would trust the judgement of the man who brought the show back over the judgement of people online who for the most part don’t watch the show.
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@@AnomalySourcethere had to be one naive brainwashed fool on here, if that's what you think I feel sorry for you
Same old adage...
Doctor Who used to be for everyone.
Now, it's for the mentally infirm.
@@argorath 🤣😂😆🤣😂
Mater, it was always for the socially infirm. Liking the show got you beaten up in the playground back in the day.
@@cheapfinish6224 😆🤣😂 did it, aye?🤣
True. It was this nice and sometimes spooky show about this charming yet strange man traveling around all of time and space and protecting the Earth (mostly the latter thanks to Jon Pertwee's run; the budget had to be cut and so a lot of the show was basically earthbound for a while).
@@Wendeta-hq2cpThe Jon Pertwee era is the most political agenda ever, even more that the Seventh Doctor era who want to destroy Thatcher.
Dr Who ended with the last episode of Peter Capaldi's Dr Who.
Anything after is very, very bad fan fiction and not worth your time.
It's not even fan fiction, which has the distinct merit of at least being written by people who love the source material.
This is anti-art and anti-fiction, where all the basic rules of narrative drama are ignored, the conceptual premise of the show is mocked, and the loyal audience are left feeling humiliated and shamed. And it's so very deliberate.
Can you imagine if other corporations treated their biggest globally-renowned brands how the BBC treated Dr Who? "Starbucks - Not for CIS White Males...", or "Nike - Just Do It, unless you're tr-nsphobic!"😂
What the fuck does "transphobic" even mean?
Someone you meet used to be a different gender.....
Okay, yeah, I'm a little busy with my own fucking life
The thing is…Nike’s already kinda done that, and women hate them for it. They hired a guy (the same guy who crashed budlight) for pretending to be a woman to condescendingly impersonate women to tell us to buy Product. They put a dude in a sports bra to market sports bras to women.
Star Wars says "Hi"!
Star Wars. Marvel. Disney as a whole.
@@orchNEStra there are comparisons to be made
Where has this belief that Britain lacks diversity come from?
I was born in the UK and it was always a melting pot for as long as I can remember. London has always been diverse. When I lived there I worked with people of all backgrounds and cultures and identities. And all the major cities have a mixture of cultures and people. As most major cities in Europe do. These folks are wasting their time fighting a battle that's already been won. (And as far as descrimination and racism, you'll never wipe that out completely. There will always be asshats.)
Yeah, and another thing about that is that a lot of the diversity in the UK comes directly from its history, so I would argue that a better way to diversify the Doctor's role would be to hire an Indian actor or maybe an actor from the parts of Hong Kong that had a lot of British influence. I'm sure either of those casting decisions would also spark backlash, but at least they would make more sense. That's not to say that the current Doctor couldn't fit the role due to his Rwandan descent, but his acting and the complete change of character kind of undermine the argument that he was hired as the best option for the role.
The sexual identity aspect really doesn't fit with the show at all, and the genderbend was pointless. I remember there was a lot of speculation as to whether previous Doctors were asexual, but at least that was a case of theorizing that was not directly stated in the show.
They're trying to replace whites.
As a black man who grew up watching the classic episodes of doctor who I am now done. First star wars and marvel, then star trek and now doctor who. 😥
All of them were always "woke"
@kmartradio This a recent thing. Modern Writing and Ideas have completely destroyed entertainment back then people had sense and respect and wrote things to fit all sides.
@generalgrievous398 false movies and tv always was more on the left.
For example in the 70s all in the family was a show making fun of conservative bigots.
@kmartradio We're talking about Doctor Who here the modern version is a complete shell of its former self. And Yes tv in the 70s did do all that but again Good writing existed Remember that? No? Oh well it's maybe because we haven't had it for so long.
I hear Mr. Schwab enjoys watching this show.
The fact Davros was crippled elicited sympathy. He was damaged. The Doctor was well aware of this.
It wasn't just that he was crippled, he was damaged, and unnatural, prolonging his life because he couldn't bear the thought of losing it, and was terrified of death. Davros was meant to be the anti-Doctor, selfish and sickly, unwilling to let go.
Beautifully put. I recently watched several compilation videos of previous doctors that showcased his moments of anger, his absent-mindedness and social awkwardness, and I immediately thought “Ncuti Gatwa doesn’t have any of that. In fact, he looks like he came straight from Club Med.” And that, my friends, is just not the Doctor.
There were 12 doctors, plus the War Doctor. Nothing else is canon. It speaks volumes that the classic series, with cardboard sets and a £5 per episode budget, is better written, better acted and more entertaining, than the current shite sub-fan fiction.
"Nothing else is canon" in your mind maybe. In fact, the canon is controlled by the rights holders who can do whatever they jolly well please. Timeless child is canon. Bi-generation is canon. Lesbian Doctor is canon. Bi Tenant is canon.
They won. They destroyed it. They did it intentionally to stick it to the straight white majority. They did with hatred in their hearts, because they hate who they are and someone must pay.
You say but we must wait for after the shows have run.
No really, the show sucks in the 80s.
Totally agree - ended with Capaldi. He was the 13th incarnation including including the War Doctor - end of regeneration cycle in old lore.
To be fair, Peter Davison, Colin Baker and Sylvester McCoy were all utter shite! The show has been a roller coaster over the decades. We are in another big dip currently!
DW was a hero when I was a boy. What other sci-fi character fought aliens without guns? None. Thus, I became sorta anti-gun throughout my life (sorta, not always, cause the Doctor still killed people and took care of trouble). Fast forward 20 years into the future and I see kids going "Whenever I see a person going into a bank with a gun, I do what the Doctor did - I twerk!" Yeah, not exactly the same.
Doctor Who died in 2017. Now it's just a corpse puppeteered around and used as a gay sex toy.
2017? As far as I'm concerned, the end was "The Husbands of River Song", and that was Christmas 2015.
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True bro. The Doctor ended on a happy note, spending his last night with his wife before she went on to be saved by his younger self. The End.
I wonder what color swatch is used for necrophilia on the flag
Dude how ridiculous is ur comment
@@isaacmaskey468 No more ridiculous than yours I'd wager.
Dr. Diversityhire =. Rainbow mediocrity
Can Men PLEASE stop Hugging on TV and in life. It's unsightly.
Dr Who has been like this since 2005. Didnt you get the memo?
@@purefoldnz3070 lol no
@@AndrewsMobs lol no what exactly?
The 12th Doctor was the LAST Doctor Who! The 13th, such an unlucky number, is Dr. WTF!
13s era was The Timeless Child Show. No Doctor involved. He still hasn't returned
I still don't understand how there is more doctors after his 12th regen
@@MolGaeilge There aren't. That's when the writers killed the show.
England has watched American film and tv imploding and thought that it would be a good idea to mimic those practices.
Instead of destroying existing IP, why don't you create a new one? Clearly, British writers are as skilled as their American counterparts.
Maybe it's time to strike?
It all stems from Critical Theory running amok throughout the Anglo-Western upper middle classes. The state of Dr Who merely represents the mass conformity of the North London elite (especially in media circles). The frustrating thing is that the majority of people, whilst 'progressive', at least somewhat see through it all, but they daren't say anything (ironic, given that it arguably completely undermines the central premise of critical theory / the intersectional hierarchy).
It's not England but Disney, they partnered with an american company and it went to shit with the DEI stuff
I’m wondering who the intended audience is. It’s not made for the older viewers, so are young people really that much into this show? Are there kids in their twenties holding their breath for the new Dr. Who?
I am one of those young people, and no, none of us are watching it. They want to appeal it to the activist morons who endlessly demand and tantrum for this sort of thing, not realizing that those scum don’t actually watch these productions. I grew up on doctor who, but I would never watch it now. They had a whole new generation growing up with it and loving it, and then they killed it in our name. They’re out of touch.
Not holding their breath but making reactions on Tik Tok
As a 20 year old no we are not watching this
My 20 year old niece is into manga and D&D and my 21 year old nephew is into partying and FIFA. Doctor Who, not a chance 😃
Yes, there are those of us who are excited for the new season and the new Doctor.
I still can't get over how he thought it was a good idea to call a kilt "gender-pushing clothing" in that interview article, while living in Scotland.
Proof that the doctor was NEVER supposed to chase being cool:
“It’s a fez. Fezes are cool.”
Its not colourblind casting, because it only ever goes one way. Every choice they make involves skin colour and other superficial elements.
I remember back when I was 11 EVERY statue could be a weeping Angel THAT was horror that was Doctor Who
One of the best stories ever for me
"Listen this advice could save you life... Don't blink don't even blink blink and your dead they're fast faster than you could possibly imagine DON'T turn your back DON'T look away AND DON'T BLINK... good luck".
Let's recontextualize those debut ratings:
William Hartnell debut episode "An Unearthly Child" that drew 4.4 million people in 1963.
British population in 1963: 54 million
Ncuti Gatwa's debut episode "The Church on Ruby Road" drew 4.7 million people in 2024.
British population in 2024: 70 million
Let's recontextualize those debut ratings:
Ncuti Gatwa's debut episode "The Church on Ruby Road" drew 6.2 million people in 2024.
Over 450 channels
100s of streaming services
1000s of video games
10s of Social media video channel
William Hartnell debut episode "An Unearthly Child" that drew 4.4 million people in 1963.
3 Channels
@@studyaccount6987 2024- Dr. Who well known UK TV series that has been shown all over Asia, Africa, Oceania and North America.
1963- some new kid's show about a man who lives in a phone box or something?
An stupid comparison. Only Hartnell had a debut. Gatwa only joined a show that had been established for 60 years.
In Ncuti's defence, the show had lost a great deal during Chibnall's... attempts at writing Jodie's doctor.
He could've been better had he
A. Not been directed by Chibnall, and
B. followed Capaldi, Matt Smith, or a Jodie directed by anyone but Chibnall.
Not saying he was overly good, I'm still subjecting myself to the cruel and unusual punishment that is Chibnall's 13th doctor and having to take days in-between episodes to recover from the crinjuries I endure from cringing so hard while watching.
@@studyaccount6987 So you're saying that more distraction due to social media and streaming services in 2024 somehow compares to 1963 with just radio, movie theaters and TV's with 12 stations? Cool.
They can't create their own characters and shows. They can only seem to take successful IPs and corrupt and modify them. They hope to rope in a majority of the current audience and will shame them into liking it until they are used to the "new" theme and flavor.
what a downgrade.. from dr who to Dr who the phok is this?
And we thought the female doctor was peak cringe.
💯I keep thinking the same thing
At least 10 got a happy ending before the show was confirmed dead for good.
Maybe if the make a series 15 they could octuple down on die...er dei and make the doctor a black gay transgender lesbian in a hoverchair who has the mental age of a 12 year old to check every box...that will work this time. (wonders what they are smoking to get some or avoid it at all costs)
The irony is that a female Doctor and even a gay black male Doctor could actually work, but not like this! Gatwa could be a good Doctor if he doesn't overplay his gayness and he responds appropriately to the alien threats, after all, an alien threat is the same whether you are gay or straight. The fact that he is black is neither here nor there. I'd support Idris Elba for the Doctor. Racism isn't an issue here.
Never expected the new Doctor to come out with attacks on white people and talking crap like he’s the victim! We didn’t start this fight! He did
NGL, it was pretty funny to see how unapologetic and predictable the move from female to black Dr, a move so transparent in its motivations that I'm willing to bet the next Dr will be both female AND black.
AND ginger! yay!
Don't forget homosexual
*transgendered, gay black Muslim woman
@@Squidley88 Ofc, that's a given now.
They had 10 back between them
Dr Who was fantastic as a child in the 1970s, i miss those days
There's a reason the 70's is considered the "golden age" of Who.
Loved Tom Baker, he and Eccleston are by far the best Doctors IMHO.
@@gregsmith7949 1970 to 1981, Pertwee and Baker, *Iconic* !
Yeah, like the political agenda message and the feminist Sarah.
2006 to 2015 was the golden era of the morden series David tenant, Matt smith and Peter Capaldi where truly one the most iconic actors that played the doctor, I really miss the playsets and action figure waves they used to have during 2006 to 2015
The biggest problem I have with this video is that you call Doctor Who a childrens show. This is the same arguement hacks have used to defend star wars. I prefer to think of Doctor Who (or what it was) as a family show. Something that mom and dad like, but will also keep little Timmy entertained. By delving into politics (further than was acceptable for even Doctor Who) they have alienated that family audience, trying to chase childless, sexless millenials.
The failure is incoming at full speed and there are no airbags to soften the blow.
The companions will double as airbags.
Interesting that a supposed "actor" does not seem to understand the "Yes and..." rule. You can make incremental changes but you have to acknowledge what has come before.
He isn't a supposed actor. He is the lead actor.
Also wtf h are talking about
@@kuggacouragegx6093 I'll explain it in a language you can understand..... Doctr who is terribal now. It was gud but it's not know. 😂
@@kuggacouragegx6093 The number one rule in improvisational acting is "Yes, And..." which means that you are allowed to change things in the story, but only if you accept what happened earlier. You never shut down what the other actor did before you or it shuts down the entire routine. You roll with it and play the game with everyone else. I think what Kentlindal is trying to say is that the new actor for the Doctor (and most everyone else involved in the show) is refusing to say "Yes, And..." by instead trying to shut down all of the prior development of the series and do something different with it.
@@PlayStonkers wtf are u talking about
@@kuggacouragegx6093 I was explaining what the "Yes And" rule is since you were asking. That's all. I don't really know how to make it more clear.
You characterised the Doctor pretty well. I would even say your characterisation of the character is the most accurate. The Doctor is, for all intents and purposes, the same character throughout the regenerative process. All that really changes is the face, costume and certain mannerisms. What started out as an idea to prolong a show that had an older actor as the lead grew into a very interesting analysis of the multifaceted yet congruent nature of being, the Doctor being the perfect visualisation of how people can change yet still stay the same.
Precisely. The Doctor should always be seen as 1 singular person. I've always hated when the show (particularly in New Who) would have the Doctor say "I've had so many faces, been so many people". No! He's one guy who changes, not multiple people or personalities!
Can't we just have a fun show about an alien with two hearts who time travels and defeats the bad guys while being awkward, cool and in charge, you know, like it had been for decades. Why does everything need to be about a message being hammered over and over again. Can't we just have great stories with great characters, again, like it used to be.
I’ve recently been watching some of Tom Baker’s run and it really is tremendous. The writing is intelligent and fun. The actors are great (a lot of British stage and screen stalwarts) and best of all, they take it seriously and treat the audience with respect. Unfortunately that is now a thing of the past. At least we can still enjoy those old episodes.
Tom Baker has always been my favorite Doctor.
@@1970chrish mine too.👍
Fun fact
The Greek word for actor is “hypokrites”
The Romans knew as well.
@@OneofInfinity. Plot twist, the Roman Empire never fell, it took itself down knowing what was coming next.
Romulus Augustulus did the right thing in hindsight, it seems their buildings weren't the only things ahead of their time.
This is one of the many reasons why I stopped watching Doctor Who after Peter Capaldi left the role. Instead of writing entertainment, they instead disrespect the franchise and the fans by creating propaganda and woke agendas, while at the same time claiming that this garbage is well writen and for everyone.
Sad that Doctor Who ended in 2017 with the Twelfth Doctor's death. It's sad because I really liked the show.
Stfu. It didn't ended.
Also stfu when u dint even watch the show
It literally didn't though. You clearly haven't been paying attention.
@@TheMoonRover They're being sarcastic, my dude.
@@worthybutter2004 Obviously. What makes you think I didn't notice?
@@TheMoonRover
Because you said "it literally didn't" and it in fact literally didnt end. Thats not how sarcasm works lol.
The population of the UK in 1963 was about 53 million compared to 68 million today, so those lowest viewing figures are even worse than they appear.
factor in the share of houses with a TV set and things get even worst
yeah its way worst when u look at the nba
and there was no internet
Also the current census figures are probably a low estimate as utility and supermarket data puts actual population estimates over 70 million if I recall correctly.
yeah but that 15 million increase is filled with people that dont belong in a first world country. And yes they don't, if their species is incapable of creating a first world country in their native lands they sure as shiznit don't belong in the countries of people who have.
The market was only in the UK back then. Now it's international. So the figures are worse.
What do you bet that the episode where Gatwa leaves the Lib bubble and goes into the countryside all the while "helping" the "stodgy and calcified locals" learn the value of "Diversity". Bonus points if there's a token minority of any stripe being bullied. Triple bonus if the big musical number episode is this episode ripping off Dirty Dancing.
someone should just hijack the show concept, call it Mr.What?, and go about it the old original way or what fans demand.
We had that for one movie. It was called "Fantastic Beasts And Where To Find Them". But the studio didn't know or value what they had. They could have sent Newt anywhere, with his companions, bigger-on-the-inside office, lock-opening lapel celery. Instead they ruined the sequels with wokeness and memberberries.
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That was set in the Potterverse though, so we couldn't.
What was once an art of reflecting your audience in a way that made them proud or introspective has been replaced. It is now an artist performing to an audience of mirrors. Once, the art failed if it didn't refect the audience, now the audience fails if it doesn't reflect the artist. Artists are self imposed prisoners in a room of mirrors, lost in the infinite reflects of themselves, convinced they're seeing the real world.
So, the new actor want to twerk the universe...? LOL. Nope, the Dr. died after Capaldi. Rest in Peace old friend, thanx for countless hours of fun.
As a straight Black man, I don’t understand why Black men have to be gay, mixed race “passing” as Black or not into Black women to be interesting.
checks more boxes that way.
So they can get more of that sweet, sweet ESG cash.
(Yu Gi Oh fusion card)
I have friends from all over the place and find it disturbing that there is some kind of freedom fighters out there that has to remind them of their skin colour? I would tell those people! Hey!! They are people! Not a colour
@@Gibson1976uk I get it but our skin color is immutable. It is not something we can chalk up to chance. It’s who we are. More time than not people group together based on color but obviously it’s more than that but that IS a factor.
Dear Echo,
I remember an interview where Tom Baker said he thought the role of the Doctor was 'actor proof.' I wonder if he still feels the same way?
Frank.
Somebody chain RTD and Shooty down and force them to listen to this.
I'm convinced that Echo Chamberlain is the reincarnation of Christopher Hitchens as a woke critic...
Your mama
You seem like the kind of person who eats mustard sandwiches.
"twerk the monster to death"
and this is the point you really nee to ask: do you live in this universe? no amount of twerking will stop the bear from mauling you, a knife, a gun or if nothing else a punch will, or may stop it, twerking won't.
Torchwood was wildly popular and every lead character has had some romantic scene with both men and women at any point in the show. The Doctor Who universe never had anything to prove, the fans are not bigots that need to be lectured to. And yet they did it anyway.
Ncuti isn’t even Scottish.
He’s a Rwandan immigrant with UK citizenship. This is the first time in the series history that a non native Brit has taken on the role. The BBC isn’t even trying to mask its contempt for lore and tradition.
the bbc is to woke to continue as a company
Woke Dr. Who like Woke Disney scares the Gallifrey out of the old way.
I miss the days when the normies didn't know about this show. Once they realized it was there, the downward spiral began. It crashed and burned years ago. Now they just dress up the corpse.
Normies ruin most science fiction.
Really? Yet here we are… all wanting some good ol’ “normie” -ness to come back.
Similar things happened to gaming when it went from its niche to the mainstream masses.
People see it as a cash cow and milk the crap out of it. The quality doesn't even matter to them as long as the stale old milk sells well enough.
It happens every time normies discover anything nerd-related. They completely destroy it and then turn it into a mockery of its former self that constantly smirks at you and rolls its eyes over how stupid it is and how stupid you are for liking it, then have the gall to tell you "You're cool now! Everybody loves the thing you like!" while making you feel even less accepted in the place you once called home. Yuck.
So we repeatedly hear from people that they grew up with a show and it helped them find themselves blah, blah, blah; then in the next breath these same people are saying how they to change everything so people today can see themselves in that show. Doesn't add up.
Doctor Who ended with the Capaldi era. Everything after that is a cheap imitation.
Last bearable era
I'm from the generation that watched Red Dwarf instead of Doctor Who and every few years when it has been revived Red Dwarf has always been great. Sorry, Who fans.
I've been a whovian since the 1970s and I pretty much checked out in Capaldi's 2 season. I tried to give Jodie a chance but I just could not stand the writing. no one wants to be lectured, they want to escape.
I'm not part of the LGBTQ or whatever the community Dr. Who is aiming for, but do you guys in those communities actually find this inspirational?
As a gay man who started watching during Tom Baker's run in the '70s I find the woke dross shoveled out over the last 7 or 8 years totally depressing.
Its not meant to inspire.
@OneofInfinity. Okay. Do you feel anything positive from this, then?
@@OneofInfinity. 'be kind' of course it is
"Reflect where Britain is societally......"
So up sh!t creek without a paddle then.
The ratings for Hartnell's debut are actually pretty impressive when you factor in how few British households had televisions in November 1963.
The "everything trickles down from the top" comment is doubly annoying, as 1, it implies everyone is a mindless sheep in need of guidance & 2, its the politicians who react & pander to what they perceive to be the dominant public opinion.
Doctor Who is gone. We're well past rigor mortis. This thing that claims to be the Doctor Who Program bears no resemblance to it beyond inherited sets and titles.
I don't know or follow doctor who but what i can say is
Doctor who went from being batman to batwoman over night and that killed this beloved franchise
Well activists aren't known for thier talent in story telling. These guys want to watch the world burn, since thier that petty.
*the western world
They're pure evil utterly no respect for the past. Utter vermin.
@@Amcor09 What it stood for.
They're*
Have you seen the director on his relationship with the actor? They're definitely getting down behind the scenes, one would say why he's running around in his underwear or the camera is constantly him.
At some point we have to accept that there was once a Great Age of Television Storytelling, and it’s over. I’m going to spend my time watching old shows from last century.
The series messages are about as subtle as a cactus enema. In their need to say "look at me" they have done huge damage. Rather than opening social doors they have encouraged people to put up walls. Far from advancing LGBT acceptance, they have poured fuel on the fire of hate. Nice job Chibnall et al.
This is RTD now. Chibnall did some huge damage but RTD is making it worse.
The fallout tv show reminded me of what it was like to somewhat enjoy TV again, like the older Doctor Who.
The new Who is just.... Bad.
Dr Disney
Making a game or movie for “everyone” makes a game or movie for no one.
RIP Doctor Who
You had me up until the "RIP" bit. I would sincerely love it if everyone in this comment thread put their energy into creating fan fiction instead of burning it all up with resentment.
One silver lining I see is, the longer this madness goes on, the more and more classic Who will stand out and apart. Same goes with classic Trek, Star Wars, etc.