RIP Doctor Who | A Casualty Of The Culture War
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- Опубліковано 10 гру 2023
- The Doctor Who 60th Anniversary was ABYSMAL
RIP Doctor Who
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As a Star Wars fan, I would like to offer my condolences to the Doctor Who fans.
Thank you. It's been a frustrating six years.
Dude, i'm sorry for your people too :(
As a lifelong Trekkie, I'll second that.
Amen!
Any tips to start and best part to end when going in the Star Wars and Dr. Who ??
Dr. Who fans are some of the nicest and most passionate people I’ve met, and like many other fanbases, they didn’t deserve to have their franchise ruined by idiots.
well Amazon did call the Lord of the Rings's fans evil so there's that
💯 agree! Dr. Who… one flush down the toilet is all it took🤢
*commies
@@Tallacus Well, let them be the only ones who watches that show then
Nobody on this comment section are Doctor Who fans lmfao. Only little haters lol.
The Daleks tried for ages to kill off The Doctor and yet somehow the BBC managed it ridiculously easily.
Correction Disney. The BBC TRIED for a couple Years with Jodi..but Disney said hold my beer in less than 3 specials.
You two never watched the show because it’s always been progressive i mean there is a literall video titled doctor who being political for 1 hour and it has been woke since it was created but you never wachted the show so please watch the video I mentioned and then you think maybe I was wrong I guess it has been woke since it started to get a life and be quiet ok thank you
@@Batmanvideos84789It was political but not to this degree like it values politics more than the story at this point
Indocrinate, Indocrinate, indoctrinate.
My biggest issue with the 60th is it didn't feel like a celebration of 60 years.
More like insistence of current year.
Matt smith, david tenant and early peter capaldi were the best of the show (not including 9th because he had a short run) sadly russell decided showing everyone as equal wasnt enough and decided to ruin good storywriting to annoy us showing a narrative every single frame and somehow ruining the sonic screwdriver which i thought was impossible as its just a screwdriver every time but different so they turned it into a magic ipod which solves every problem instantly
You´re a male, you can´t comprehend. LOL
I felt like I was being sandblasted in the back while watching the new Dr who show
Thank you, an actual reasonable complaint and not one made by right-wing grifters like Nerdrotic
As I recall from studying *real* history, governments that sought to rewrite history to suit their needs weren't exactly the most peaceful idealistic societies.
Got it in one
"History is written by the victims"...
Soviet Russia and the "democratic" West comes to mind. Isn't it a coincidence that Germany saw them as the enemy?
The soviets were notorious for this and their culture suffered greatly as a result
And we are watching this very symptom of humanity take place in real time
Never let culture fall in the hand of activists.
ish, never let culture fall victim of metrics and performance indicators - those set by "activists"
it disgusts me seeing art being perverted by degenerates.
Again. Never again.
Never let culture fall into the hands of Communist. Yeah I know it inhales hard. RIP Dr. Who.
As if we have a say.
Capaldi was the last doctor in my mind
Listen, I'm a gay black man and I Loved Dr who but yeah I'm over it now. I'm glad they're more concerned about pandering rather than their loyal fans. Sad
people crying because their child hood hero doesn't resemble them anymore after decades and you are crying because the same character resembles now you ... indoctrinated much lolol.
@@MatthewBretton-cu2el............... 🥒🤏😩
One of my all time favourite moments in all of Doctor Who was Jo Grant's departure. She announces she's getting married and although the Doctor acts happy for her you can tell he is devasted that the woman that kept him company through his years of being trapped on earth is leaving him. As everyone pours drinks to celebrate the Doctor silently drinks his and leaves the party while no one is looking (He didn't notice that Jo saw him). Then the Doctor, an ageless alien, drives away on his own.
Calling scenes like that baggage is fucking insulting
It's pretentious and unfounded.
What abour the Eleventh Doctor meet Jo again.
The silhouette of Bessie against the twilight sky was a lovely bittersweet ending to that series.
Fantastic comment. A scene like that says more than any agenda laden diatribe can ever convey. It's one of those true timeless moments.
YES YES THIS.
That whole BS about the MALE Doctor not being able to let go of power drives me nuts!! Have they already forgotten how Doctor Donna begged, pleaded and cried for the Doctor NOT to take her power away from her...even though she knew it would kill her!
Exactly! Like what is with them and bashing on men?! The Doctor has made many sacrifices before. Did they think that he wouldn't do that because he was MALE?! God, way to ruin Donna.
Agreed! Also with the stupid timeless children if the doctor has unlimited regeneration then donna is safe from death anyway. Cuz the doctor can just heal her with regeneration energy.
it's just so stupid!
A man is defined by the sacrifices he makes
It was a gratingly stupid line for sure, for so many reasons. That said I don't think your example is the best; I'm pretty sure Donna was begging to keep her memories of her time with the doctor, and her friendship with him. He was taking away so much more than just her newfound power
You're being stupid. Doctor Donna didn't beg him to let her keep her powers, she begged him to let her keep her MEMORIES.
I've never realized how spoiled I was becoming a whovian during Peter Capaldi's era.
I think it's because he's a true whovian, you can see that excited fanboy in him during interviews and even on set sometimes
That firey passion spread to those who worked with him and to us the audience.
Jodie tried, David didn't seem to have it much compared to his 10th doctor run, and I hope Ncuti doesn't mess it up
It's already doomed before the main series even begins, lol. Everything that defined past Doctor Who series is being defiled, and now it's just a generic sci-fi show, nothing more broo
@@e.p.of.p.o3644 I hated the Christmas special
I'm sorry, but you don't have much to hope for, my friend. Prepare for more garbage if you want to keep watching.
Doctor Who is dead and burried. It died with Peter Capaldi playing the last doctor.
@@GeneratorRexNerdcouldn't even watch it for 5 minutes.
5 couldn't take it for 3 minutes horrible forced messaging
The problem with calling yourself "Progressive" is every time you achieve a goal, you then have to find a new goal and proceed to once again beat the rest of us to death with it. They will insist on taking us down no end of weird backwaters, and if they have their way this "progress" will be unending.
You know what is wanted? More
That's neoliberal, not progressive
The goal has never changed. Social justice and representation for all.
@@olican101 Nothing vague or open-ended about that.
Yes, better things for everyone is better for everyone.
As 47 year old Englishman who grew up with Dr Who, this hurts my soul.
As a 42 year old near-lifelong fan, I concur. After watching the episode on Saturday night I spent most of the following day feeling intermittently angry and numb... Kind of like when a beloved pet gets run over.
As a 45yo Englishman also lifelong fan bringing my kids up with Dr Who except my youngest and I did try with her on the first episode but she was bored after the first 20mins and tbh so was I so we never watched the last 2 episodes same with my eldest he watched first episode being 22 and brought up with David tennant he happens to be gay aswell so you think this is the target audience what Russel is after and he hates it aswell so sadly I a, done my sone is done and my youngest just didnt care the future sadly is dead for Dr Who and I am so sad about it they just destroying our beloved franchises 1 by 1.
as a 49 year old german, who in the 80s secretly stayed up late to see dr. who when he should have slept, yes it hurts.... (dr.who was not so popular over here, so it was shown only late night)
Is Jack Harcness character who is bisexual hurt you too?
As a 50 year old English woman, Who’s first Dr was John Pertwee, I feel so deflated after patiently waiting a year for these episodes. My 29 year old daughter is going to give the next episode a shot, because she is hopeful that watching with her son will be their family thing as it was ours. My 23 year old son watched the first one and is now not interested. I’m very sad.
Capaldi was the last doctor, and all this time we had been in denial, if they want to do something different I would be happy to watch "Clara and me in the restaurant at the end of the universe"
Notice how every doctor after Capaldi, had good memory after regenereating.... I say they are a figment of his imagination and he's really in a coma or something.
I liked the 60th Anniversary Specials… but I’d still watch the hell out of this. I miss Clara and 12.
How I HONOR You! Jodie Whittaker was a poor Doctor not because she was a woman, but because she couldn't portray Doctor's character. Unfortunately, with her came the degeneration of the brand. And the rotten cherry on top of this cake made of expired cream, Surströmming and Hakarl is that they made yeast out of the Doctor. And why? Well, because yeast reproduces by partitioning. So, as the classic said: "Silence over that coffin."
I don't discredit you but Capaldi was hated on his debut too.
I honestly loved that they brought back David Tennant. It was fun to see him. The Bigeneration was really weird, but the 10th Doctor finally got the ending he wanted. There were a lot of things in the specials i didnt like though. The attitude they gave the doctor and telling him how he wouldnt understand because he is a "male presenting timelord". I also don't know how being non binary was important for the story. The characters gender shouldnt be important.
I agree, the gender shouldn't be important. The show was making it the whole personality of the character, instead of just one aspect of the person. So weird
@@arthurhaack618 I still remember Bi Billie, only because the showrunners wouldn't stop writing it into her lines. "Hi I'm Billie and I'm bi!" Oh! Well it's a good thing you are trapped in a cave full of Roman legionnaires who are also all gay and bi for some reason that has zero affect on the plot of the episode. Who cares? The doctor is an immortal time traveler who has evolved over the years to become the fearless and feared entity that killed the Daleks and even his own species. Part of his journey is learning how to deal with that. And yet...after Capaldi the doctor became a coward that was afraid of her own shadow while still trying to play up the girl power angle. And it just keeps getting more and more about pandering rather than good storytelling. No wonder Disney picked it up.
@@docferringer exactly. I am a part of the LGBT, but I don't tell people that when I introduce my self. Because it doesn't matter! I'm embarrassed by the shows pandering to queer people.
Same as Bond, the idea for the character was the refined older British gentleman. Gender very much matters. Now they're inserting this trendy made-up BS that won't age well. Though it will be good evidence of a dark age where people believed gender didn't exist.
I suspect they kept Tennant Doctor in a form of existence, in the show, for a reason, and he will be used to reel the fans back in when 'something happens' to Gatwa Doctor, at the end of that actor's term. Their bi-generation may result in a bond that involves Tennant when it is time for Gatwa to regenerate. That's my prediction.
Capaldi was the last Doctor. RIP Doctor Who. The priceless and irreplaceable icon is truly dead.
Whitaker's era was great. The writing was original. Problem is that people whine about original, but when they get it, then its an agenda. LOL The whole Woke argument is really just bigots looking for someone else to be responsible for their bigotry. LOL I mean, Who's creator had wanted the Doctor to transform into a woman as well as many other possibilities. There were always gay characters in the show, its just that the bigot wants them to be played and shown as being straight gays. LOL
@@mikelachey824 Whitakers era was mediocre at best. Chibnall took great pleasure in ripping apart the Canon of Doctor Who and while I'll admit Jodie got a raw deal with the rubbish writing, her Doctor is very forgettable. Over 50 years of writing was flushed down the toilet in the Timeless Children. Destroyed the legacy of William Hartnell. Killed the Doctor Donna. Retconned Davros because he was in a wheelchair.
Woke took over Doctor Who and the fans just didn't deserve it.
@@mikelachey824Whitaker was an awful actor.
Peter Capaldi is a wonderful, talented actor. Dr Who is dead as a franchise.
@@mikelachey824 if you're the same person. And you reincarnate as said same person. Just looking different. You're not gonna magically turn into a gay person. It's not Bigotry. It's common sense. I'm ready for your weak arguments. Come at me.
"And in the years to come you might find yourself revisiting a few, but just the old favourites, ay?" - A prophecy that has come to pass and taken on an entirely new meaning. With 50 years worth of stories to enjoy, we can revisit them all. The Day of the Doctor serves as a wonderful series finale for classic Who. May it rest in peace.
that was the finale for me as well. never watched anything past it nor i intend to do
50 years of repeat viewings is fine by me.
Day of The Doctor would be an awful series finale for classic Who. Now, Death Comes To Time on the other hand was a great send off for The Doctor.
@@Zontar82The last Doctor was Capaldi. He’s an older Doctor but he’s superb in the role. His performance in Mummy On the Orient Express was sensational and it’s an all time classic. This show will never reach those standards again.
@@UnlimitedRicePudding_ I'm not familiar with it but thanks for the recommendation. TV episodes, books, comics, Big Finish and other audio dramas: there's plenty in the archive to entertain fans for decades to come (same goes for Star Wars, Star Trek, Marvel and DC). All this woke content is going to age very poorly but what came before is timeless.
The Doctor being a slightly insufferable know-it-all is precisely why we loved him, among a myriad of other traits. I will personally never forget how David Tennant brought us the most compelling expression of "righteous anger" I think I'll ever see in my life. To be a lonely, wounded, god, filled with the rage of centuries pouring it out on the darkest of foes...it was just all so brilliant. RIP Dr. Who.
I personally loved how Matt Smith could almost flip into a completely different character when things get serious. Most of the time, he’s the cheeriest, silliest and most playful Doctor around and then, in a moment, something else takes control. Something cold, ancient, and furious.
Doctor Who is a show where the youngest ever actor to play a character can somehow look and feel the oldest out of all of them.
its still going!
@@RadiuI No, it's not. Like a walker from The Walking Dead, its putrid, rotting corpse is still staggering around as if it were alive, but there's no life left inside, only a mindless, ravenous rage seeking to destroy everyone who once loved it.
@@zxyatiywariii8How come I've been seeing a lot of people enjoy it then?
Yah... The Doctor being kind of a dick is one of his most persistent traits across all regenerations. He's very smart, very old, very knowledgeable, and he knows it. And his ego doesn't get deflated often, but when it does, it feels EARNED. It's one of the things that made Romana fun, because while The Doctor may have a lot of practical experience, he's still the Time Lord equivalent of a college drop-out, allowing Romana to outsmart him from time to time in a way that feels natural.
not only have they killed it they now have goblins dancing on the grave....
I remember watching the 50th anniversary episode as a kid with my mum it was great and we both were hyped…. I’m glad we didn’t watch this together (or at all)😭
Same except we did watch the 60th together along with my aunt and cousin and we were all surprised at how sh!t the writing was we couldn't believe it 😭
Oh god you just made me realize the 50th anniversary was 10 years ago...
First time in my life I feld old and I'm 25 xD
Get a life
That article from screen rant about moving past pain and loss made me think of Star Trek V: The Final Frontier. "Damn it Bones you're a doctor, you know that pain and guilt can't be taken away with the wave of a magic wand. They're the things we carry with us that make us who we are. We lose them we lose ourselves. I don't want my pain taken away I need my pain!" - James T. Kirk
I'm not a Dr Who fan but my brother is. And he's a die-hard whovian. When I tell you he's pissed, it's the understatement of the year. My brother and I don't talk much but he's been blowing my phone up over all this like never before. I think I've talked to him more in the last couple weeks than I have in the last couple years.
Disney's fault, I would say. MUSICAL IN DOCTOR WHO!??!?!💀😭 I was cringing more and more
When NewWho came on the screens in 2005 with Eccleston, I thought it was brilliant. Tennant too is brilliant & the stories were fresh, the CGI was fresh & I thought what could go wrong. When Smith took over it was starting to go over the top & then after Smith it got worse & worse.
The 60th anniversary specials were rehashing old material as well as Tennant & Tate as fan service but what got me pissed off is that they had an actor of a different race playing Isaac Newton! Yes it's sci-fi/fantasy etc but if you're going to add a historical character, at least have him look the part! It's like getting Billie Piper to play Celie Harris Johnson in The Color Purple or Graham Norton to play Rubin 'Hurricane' Carter in The Hurricane.
RTD has this panderverse where he has to pander to every minority, gender, race, object etc where they all have to be inclusive. With history, you cannot change the past, you cannot change what happened to slavery in the southern USA, convicts being sent to Australia, or the Indian sub-continent being under the British jackboot of colonialism. RTD needs to remember that he's writing & directing for an audience that differs in ages & they just want to see a decent Doctor Who episode. RTD is just pandering his own tastes into Doctor Who & it doesn't work. Chibnall was the same. RTD is now relying on old episodes he wrote & rehashing it into new ones. It's just pure lazy & pandering. Don't get me started on Disney either! Disney will send suggestive notes to RTD who will have to pander to Disney execs. What's next? Mickey Mouse playing Doctor Who!
As a Whovian, I take solace in these 3 facts. There's fifty good years of Who that they can't ruin. Hartnell was the first Doctor and Capaldi was the last. Lastly their version of Dr Who will be forgotten in a decade ours is forever.
The problem is they have and are removing older “problematic” episodes. Bit by bit they will find fault with each era and replace them all.
Keep crying
@@Metallifux1888 So you enjoy others' pain? You're a sociopath.
Is he ACTUALLY crying? Tears falling? No. So you're a lying sociopath.
find archives or create them only thing you can do now @@Docktavion
@@ThatBlueSkull exactly and buy physical media.
I was having a conversation with a normie friend of mine over the weekend and, without giving it any thought, told him “All my old fandoms have been compromised - there’s pretty much nothing left from my old favorites to enjoy.” I said it matter-of-factly, but after it came out of my mouth, it saddened me to confirm out loud that so many things I used to love - comics, Star Wars, Star Trek and Doctor Who - have all been destroyed by people that couldn’t care less about them.
I still have Star Gate and Babylon 5, simply because nothing new for them came out in the last 10 years. I used to be saf about no new content, but now I see it as a blessing.
@@Me__Myself__and__I other than that one stargate game
@@Me__Myself__and__I farscape has become an untarnished favorite of mine, but like anything now I'd nearly riot over reboot attempts; 9/10 it's always a downgrade.
@@shanemczane6725they’re threatening to revive Farscape. It’s a Disney property now. Fortunately I still have DVDs of 1st and 2 nd season. Tragic!
Yes I feel the same. I have run out of things to watch. And enjoy. Because I have seen all these things a million times. I love them, they are great. Doctor Who, Trek, Star Wars etc. But they are not making anything new from them, that is worth seeing and nothing new that is anywhere near as good as what they were years ago. And its sad as the potential is there, they just want to use them to lecture the audience now, and not entertain. So I no longer watch any of them . I watched the first two Tennant specials and they were that bad, that preachy and that much of an F. U. to older fans like me I could not bring myself to watch the last one The Giggle. I am actually glad I missed it. And what I saw for the Christmas Trailer looks like one of the worst episodes of Doctor Who I have ever seen. A mash up of Pirates of the Caribbean and the Hobbit. With the campest Doctor ever. He is even more camp than John Inman or Kenneth Williams. I cant possibly take it seriously, its like a parody, a mockery a comic pantomime. The fact its gone from 12 million plus viewers down to 4 million in ten years....two thirds of the audience are gone and its going to get worse. I would be embarrassed if someone called to visit me on Christmas Day and I was caught watching a Doctor Who as bad as this one looks....and everyone thought Whitaker and Chibnall were bad...how is it possible to make something worse than that???? But they look to have managed it....
Honestly, the real problem for the show is that it seems to be playing more to an American audience, and the general dumbing down of certain things in the series. Disney? There is a great chance that it will ruin the show... I said what I said... I love the show, but weep for the Americanisation of it.
The worst part is, most of the American Audience doesn't want this either. We already watched this happen to starwars and startrek and Marvel studios. I mostly watch youtube now when I was an avid movie and tv watcher in the past. My 1st reaction to the end of the female doctor was hope it might get better. Then I started hearing quotes from interviews about the new doctor and that hope died.
One of the greatest things Doctor Who taught me was what we now know as the meme regarding the difference between 'harmless' and 'peaceful'. The Doctor is capable of great violence and vengeance, as both Eccleston and Tennant showed. But he actively chooses not to be, hence he is 'peaceful'.
That kind of nuance is way beyond what DW is post Capaldi, and way beyond whatever the hell Davies has devolved into.
Ween the third doctor destroyed a dalek and it screamed in pain in planet of the daleks " As a man of peace I quite enjoyed that"
You don't have to be a doctor of psychiatry or psychology to know that " emotional baggage " literally makes us who we are. How we handle our challenges and let downs define who we are.
I think you’ll find it’s what we identify as is what defines us.
Unless you’re against my ideology and therefore I will define you as an -ist and a -phobe.
EMOTIONAL DAMAGE
It's how we take action in the real world...
Everybody hates Star Trek V but Kirk's speech about needing his pain was a good scene.
it's one thing that makes us who we are of like 5 things. emotional baggage can happen in 5 different ways, itself.
I'd say you don't need to be a doctor to know that but it seems you do.
Matt Smiths final words have been lost by RTD. Change is okay, you gotta keep moving as long as you never forget who you were. RTD has completely forgotten who the Doctor is.
As a 53 year old brit who grew up on DW, I stopped watching when that fuckin women arrived. Watched the new specials , then went back in time and watched Daemons , then pandorica opens. Conclusion: new dr is like a temu rip off. RIP DW
same I'm 28 and I agree with what you I stopped watching it ehen jody got the part then watched it again when david came back then stopped again when the new doctor arrived I only watch the old ones from 1st to 12th doctor
Ah a Jon Pertwee era fan. A man of good taste, indeed ;) Matt Smith is amazing too.
"To Sir Edmund Rockwell,
Know that I choose to remember you not as the monster you were in your final moments, nor as the secretive, obsessive man you became after I found you in the desert. I should have seen the signs then. If I had, perhaps I wouldn't have to mark this empty grave.
This grave is for the man you were, and the man I will remember. He was the man who I'd talk and laugh with over tea long into the night, and the man who'd offer me supplies and a steed without a second thought. He was a scientist, a scholar and gentlemen. Wherever that man is, I hope he is at peace."
David Tennant voiced Rockwell in Ark Survival Evolved. How poetic.
The UK viewership for the 3 David Tennant specials are LESS THAN HALF of the very first Jodie Whittaker episode (and Jodie ONLY went downhill after that).
The average viewing numbers for the three Tennant specials are almost EXACTLY where Sylvester McCoy's average ratings were before the show was cancelled in 1989.
None of the Tennant specials surpassed viewing figures for even the least-viewed Matt Smith episode, much less any of the prior David Tennant episodes.
Disney dumped a TON of cash into this production and this was NOT what they wanted to see happen. Yes, this is a huge failure. This is a big-budget special effects show, not some seedy medical drama, and it is the 60th anniversary to boot. They were expecting in excess of 10 million viewers and couldn't maintain half that.
What else does this mean? Well, it means that merchandising isn't coming back. During the Jodie Whittaker era, almost all merchandising came to an abrupt halt. NO ONE WAS BUYING THE PRODUCT. During Eccleston through Matt Smith, merchandising was HUGE. You could get EVERYTHING, from toys, posters, mugs, t-shirts, comics, etc. At one point, Character Options was reporting sales of 30,000 sonic screwdrivers a day! Then came Capaldi, and merchandising sales slowed. During Jodie, they almost died completely. Toys that did come out sold in paltry numbers. Action figures wound up in deep discount bins and suppliers still cannot get rid of "Friends of the Thirteenth Doctor" action figure sets. Almost every US licensor of Doctor Who products stopped making new items (no more T-Shirts, mugs, standees, posters, etc). UK toy releases became very sporadic as well, most being exclusives through B&M. With numbers like these, the merchandise is NOT coming back, and if it does, it won't sell enough to merit full price for very long.
Are you sure Disney didn’t want this because I’m pretty sure this is exactly what they wanted
👍👍 to the failure of this sad piece of junk.
@@DoodleThis They wanted in excess of 10 million UK viewers and a ton of subscribers to join for this... didn't happen.
This is a bridging mini series. It's not a 60th special and to be honest here in the UK they are putting more promotion into the next era of who. As for ratings, they are up on the mess chibnall made. You also can't compare 1980s ratings with 2023 ratings. Today there is more channel choice (and I had BSB here in the UK in the 80s/90s, what we now call sky TV).
And as someone who owns a copy of every who story in existence (tv, film, book, comic, audio and trust me friends took the piss out of me at school for the wall of who in my family living room, where all other walls were taken up in books) nothing is new in terms of woke.
I love how RTD had a problem with Davros being a wheelchair user who is evil, but not with The Toymaker being a man with a thick german accent who is evil
The Toymaker's German accent is phony, he literally gets caught faking it before the Doctor first appears in the episode.
@@the_dpad tbh that doesn't really change the fact
@@itsNabezit does because it’s shown as a farce
@@deeznuts23yearsago it's poking fun at Germans ;P
It’s literally pointed out in NPH’s first scene his accent is phoney and slips. The Toymaker has adopted an accent that will be unnerving.
Dr.who rest in peace 1963-2024.
Yea it is sad indeed. Canonically for me, I have The Husband of River Song as my ending. Or if I’m feeling a sad ending, The Doctor Falls where the Doctor says “Pity, No stars. I thought there would be stars…” and stop it there as his final act of heroism.
For me DW ended after capaldis speach, we cut to his regeneration and it intensifies, obscuring his face as the show ends
When ideology is more important than art/entertainment, you know that its doomed to flop terribly. To Doctor Who fans, you deserve much MUCH better & I hope something good happens in the future.
Please, just watch the Malcolm Hulke stories in the 70s for left message.
What's funny about the "ideology" vs art/entertainment...they cast a diverse black Doctor Who who represents only 3% of the British population compared to the Asian 7% and 82% white. They had already abandon the long time fan base for a female Doctor, now they usher in the era of a non-Binary Black Doctor for a production that will appeal to an even smaller demographic...all in the name of representation. Good luck with that.
How come most people have been enjoying this then?
I been watching the 60th anniversary special slowly and been enjoying it. At most there was one part that fell off but it all felt so nice.
@@Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz0000 Quentin Tarantino was talking to Bill Maher & he said that ideology now is more important than art, individual effort, good vs evil & entertainment.
There were decades with no who. The show was dead to me when the female took over and Peters last season sucked too, which is why I respect him for leaving.
"By believing it, we will summon it forth"
I've never seen a Progressive put it so honestly.
And he was dead wrong too. Like most progressives about most topics. A lot of minorities see through this cheap virtue attempt and it turns everyone off. Just cheap
Belief doesn't affect reality, but sure. As the saying goes, you can ignore reality, but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. The chickens will come home to roost.
It's a line from Seinfeld, too: "It's not a lie if you believe it!" (Pretty sure it was meant as a joke back then.)
Manifestation, explained in a sentence
@@JohnJohnson-wy6fk Minorities want to return to mud huts.
We know everything. And you know nothing. RIP Donna Noble, the chaotic and awesome temp.
Bro, why do they always fucking spoil shows and turn them into propaganda with bad writing. Like, if you want to spread your speech, MAKE ANOTHER SHOW instead of spoiling another
“Doctor, I let you go.” Thank you, Peter. Profound words from the final Doctor.
the shows still going!
No it isn't. @@RadiuI It died with Peter Capaldi. That's my canon and I'm sticking to it.
Didn't that Doctor punch a racist and fight capitalism?
o7 Capaldi. The series should have ended after the doctor was you.
11 was the final Doctor. The writing was already going to absolute garbage with 12.
I'm not kidding, that ending with capaldi and "rip dr who" brought a tear to my eye.
Over a decade of some of the best memories, now overshadowed by the death of the show. It's like losing someone so very dear to you. 50 years of progress to bring the very best of entertainment now has had a radioactive 💩 upon it.
When I go to watch Matt smith again, the old david Tennant episodes, the Baker and pertwee era or just any doctor who before 2017 I feel at peace, I feel comfort, I feel entertained and time well spent. Once the end credits roll, the world comes crashing down again, the knowledge that all that I have watched has been completely annihilated.
What tears me up the most is the show won't be remember that much for the 50yrs of progress. No, it will be remembered for its agonising, torturous death.
I'll say it one more time.
RIP Doctor Who
It’s not dead, a new episode came out a few days ago, a new episode is coming out in a couple of weeks! Try it, you might be pleasantly surprised
Capaldi's gravitas in that 5 second segment eclipses everything that followed it for 7 years. RIP indeed.
Nah it's remembered fondly and been hearing good things from this special
These UA-cam channels are literally the only place I've seen claim "Dr Who is ruined" all while st the same time, I've been seeing fans complain about these exact UA-cam channels
I completely agree with you. I know that there are things far worse in the world to be sad about. But this show brought so much joy to my family. We would have endless conversations about it. My kids would cosplay as characters to DragonCon in Atlanta. We were able to escape the craziness of the world, and just enjoy an imaginary story with madman in a box. And they just recklessly, killed it! Damn right, I shed a few tears! But worse, they destroyed it using one of the very best Doctors there ever was. It really is a knife in the back.😢
To your commenters replying… they must be part of the activist crowd, the 5% of the population who Might actually watch this current crap masquerading as Dr Who garbage. No! I don’t believe in intentionally marginalizing men, and straight people. Funny thing is those kinds of movies are flopping left and right, losing a ton of money too. Go throw your money at that entertainment garbage, I’ll save my money for real entertainment, not for political or ret-con crap with The Message.
Everything can be fixed using a classic resourse: All was a dream or an induced hallucination , like in Amy's Choice (S05E07) or Last Christmas (S09E00)..
All was a dream , including the clothing regeneration... I mean, since when the regeneration process change the clothes?
Your video was the exact words in my mind... English in my 3ed language and I learned it 2006 because of doctor who... And after i watch last 3 episodes I was messed up for a month... They ruined the best movie and series franchise and that's very sad...😓
Wow.. that wasn't a parody. That whole thing about "binary" and "pronouns" was seriously part of the script. May God help us all.
That was a parody.
I can't believe UA-camrs still take critics seriously!
God doesn't care about television. Don't be silly.
@@mistafay If that was all parody then I'm impressed. They did a hell of a CGI job with that whole "are you he, she or they?" Looked SO REAL!!
@@IllisiaAdams I was speaking to the degenerate level of entertainment which reflects the culture of our civilization, which history has shown leads to well.. look it up! In any event. God help us all from THAT, which sadly I fear it's too late.
Nerdrotic does not have CGI elves to do parodies, this is from the actual show. Welcome to the future old man
What did anyone expect, RTD made it very clear the only thing that matters is pushing the ' message ' and a big FU to the fans. Add Disneys amazing ability to make endless dumpster fires, and you got such a mix so toxic it could kill people at 1000 miles 😮
Our overlords from the WEF call this "forced behaviour" but don't believe me, look it up.
And yet people kept tuning in! And they still will!
@@Wolf_ManJackyou’re not getting it. The point is that the agenda be advanced, the tools and fools who do the grunt work aren’t the decision makers. The more important point is that people are wise to the bullsht now.
Capaldi is so so wise in saying there will be no return for him.
This makes me sad. THEY are trying to destroy everything we loved.
Ah yes, RTD who upset a lot of people by going out of his way to give the 10th Doctor a happy ending, is trying to destroy what we loved.
@@loganscott814 it doesn't matter what he was trying to do. This is not good work from him, and it should not have been aired.
No one watching the show cares if the character has a happy ending. They care if the story is told well, the lore is respected and above all the characters and their journey and suffering are respected.
RTD failed.
Yes, they ARE trying to destroy what we loved.
@@loganscott814RTD is why the 9th doctor left after one season.
I used to love this show so much...now its my most hated. Well done everybody involved. 👏
Don't hate. When all things fail, and they always do with activists, they still take comfort in having ruined it for you and making you hate. Drinking fanboy tears, remember? Laugh at their failure. Ridicule their insanity. And above all don't watch their garbage. Just watch the Disparu reviews and others instead. Constantly remind them of their failure and how they are what they claim to fight and hate. THE BAD PEOPLE FROM GERMANY! As for the show, I think I can still stomach it up to season 9 of the new series. Never saw seasons 10 and beyond and I think I will keep it that way. AFAIC Capaldi is still the Doctor, a madman in his blue box, and this just corporate hate fiction made by bitter tumblristas.
Remember the phoenix
These shows have to burn to ash in order to rise anew
Don’t stress during this process
Laugh and enjoy shows from other countries
I'm going to miss that music.
@@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623you're part of the problem telling people how to feel
@@Rusty84CVI'm pretty sure you didn't read his comment. He's actually being pretty logical on how to approach these dumpster fires. The people ruining these shows aren't the ones watching them. They just enjoy seeing others sad and angry. So by not giving them the satisfaction, you deprive them of it.
So no, he's not part of the problem. Dummies that control their emotions or think logically are. You know, dummies like you.
Doctor Who gave me 10 great seasons during my childhood and teens. Those memories will never be taken away. RIP Doctor Who.
Good news! The show returns this Christmas 😎
@@operationorigins4714 no it doesn't. Whatever is coming out this Christmas is not "Doctor Who"
@@OverWims Bi sexual shitty who is whats coming.
@@operationorigins4714
And? So what? Their viewership is department.
Not liberals like you, of course...😂😂
@@operationorigins4714
Perhaps you could have summoned all this energy to save the Marvels.
Oh well...
Doctor Who ended with Peter Capaldi. His run had it’s ups and downs but he was the perfect Doctor.
I wouldn't call him perfect.
Christopher, David and Matt were 👌Peter Capaldi had his ups and downs but he was a great doctor like those before him...... but after Peter everything went down the shitter
@@That_0ne_Dev i agree, the writing Jodie had she did not stand a chance.
NO. Peter is THE Doctor. @@That_0ne_Dev
I hope noone has the idea to mess with Torchwood
A space alien informing the audience of their chosen pronouns might be the low point of modern scriptwriting.
Not if you view it as unintentional comedy. Then it's hilarious
I love when they say "who cares if they are race swapped, gender swapped, gay, trans, etc?" They are the ones that care so much, they are so completely obsessed with identity politics they will crash entire brands and companies to push their obsession. They can't look at a person without seeing nothing but race, gender, sexual identity, etc.
I don't know, I might enjoy Hitler as a vlack man, or "gasp" Trans man. That certainly would seem to fit how they act. Trans, not black. The black man thing would be for the irony of it all.
It’s all for the removal of the past hero’s and role models. To normalise the narcissists, the hedonists, the perverse. When everything is removed and replaced then everything will be “normal” .
@@Docktavion Or maybe when people get exposed to this kind of stuff, they might eventually think not to call something narcissistic, hedonistic or perverse just because they don't understand it.
Also, the current race-swapping is only pale-skinned to diverse, never the other way around. So much for 'blind casting', we know it's for diversity and inclusion.
@@fantalone666 that’s true, look at the insistence of calling everyone “far right, nazis, sexist, phobic, misogynist, anti-vax, anti-science etc.etc”. They are all buzz words with no substance, you ask them to explain what they mean and you get mental/cognitive dissidence as they have no clue.
As an Indian, as a brown person, I want every "activist" and person who condone what doctor who has become to know ,I never needed the doctor to look like me or another POC or a woman to feel represented.
The doctor was amazing because of his character, his stories ,he felt relatable because he was just another time lord who strived to be a good man, it was never about him being special but about being a good man and the lore change screwed it all up.
The stories all took a downward trend after the female doctor but I guess the groundwork for that was laid when the master was made a woman. Instead of a brotherly bond and betrayal they messed up the relationship.
Doctor who ended for me with capaldi's ww1 Christmas special which had brought me to tears. RIP doctor who, never did a doctor had to literally revert back to an older doctor to save the show and it still failed because of the atrocious dialogue and story.
Doctor who used to be about exploring, imagination about science and history ,now it has turned into a political messaging tool.
For me ( an Irish guy ) , an Indian guy playing Newton doesn't bother me in the slightest. I notice it seems to bother the American Utubers a lot more. It's the constant man - bashing and voicing of the characters sexual preferences, feminizing male characters ect that ruined it for my son and me.
But Capaldi's Christmas Special - Twice Upon A Time - was *incredible* ! Having the original Doctor, my *favourite* Doctor, William Hartnell, return (albeit played by a lookalike) was absolutely *amazing* 😍
@@paulfogarty7724 race swapping in general is pretty terrible and cringe for me. Even If the actors can act well ,the race swap takes away from the lore. Like how they made the ancient one a white woman in doctor strange. So newton being indian also doesn't feel right for me.
We indians have our own history where many scientific concepts were already discovered ages before anyone in Europe did but that wouldn't sit well with Europeans so they won't show it in doctor who and that's fine but turning newton brown is just an insult of history.
As an indian ,I don't like churchill but that didn't make me go on a rant when Matt Smith's doctor was friends with churchill.
Shows should pander to their audience,I wouldn't change a thing to just please indians, I cared about the integrity of the character and the stories that shaped the doctor.
im honestly afraid that nowadays tv shows will get pushed more and more into "the message" cuz it kinda gets boring and predictable in every movie...
We didn't need a doctor to look like you... I can just go to the doctor... Yall dominate the field anyway 😂😂😂.
this mistake will be bigger than you think.... I hear Star Wars fans saying "welcome to our world"
Beautiful eulogy! So touching... Tears were running down my face when he said “I let you go.” 😢 Let us remember the good stories. 🪦
As a Star Wars, Lord of the Rings enjoyer, I give my condolences to the Doctor Who community.
As a fan of all three. Doctor who was hit the hardest.
@@timeflys3248I don't watch Dr Who, but I guess so. The franchises are like three useless woke ideologues trying out-do each other.
Woke Star Wars: "This show has too many men. If you don't like my Mary Sue, then you're a sexist!"
Woke LoTR: "This show has too many white people. If you don't like my Mary Sue, and the fact that I hate white people in fantasy, then you're a racist!"
Woke Doctor Who: "Bruh, my Doctor is now an ex-woman bi-regenerated gay black man born from a penis, and we told his past white self that he knows nothing. Britain was black, and if it wasn't, then it *should* have been. The future is black and gay. Omg fans, why do you care?"
Lord of the rings is essentially untouched. Rings of power didn’t do that much damage. Star Wars and DR Who however, sheesh.
@@Red_Devil_2011 the Dr was pretty funny
Thanks, but condolences aren’t needed. I still love the show as I always have.
You cant have Davros in a wheelchair but you can give the Toy maker a German accent????!!!!!
If you notice, the accent was only affected in some scenes.
No RTD gave the toymaker a German accent to tell us that putting on a accent is racist to show us that he's evil he said this in the BTS
@@Jjosh9424 I find that really hard to believe. The accent shows that the character is partially motivated by his own enjoyment, he never needed to put on a funny accent but it was fun for him so did it anyway. It's nothing to do with racism as much as it just shows how little he thinks of humanity in general and this situation he's putting them in.
@@fukyoutubestupidfuckinghandles you can find it hard to believe but it's quite literally what RTD said in the behind the scenes
@@fukyoutubestupidfuckinghandles also the toymaker assumes where that bloke is from at the start of the episode to show that he's a racist
This is it... Doctor Who is officially to me.
My cannon ending officially ended with Peter Capaldi and this was all just a post regeneration feaver dream
Agreed for me he died peacefully in the tardis
It will be cancelled within one season. The fans are gone, the "modern audience" is a myth, and will not watch the show. I hope it was worth it for that sweet DEI score from Blackrock...
Do people still watch it? I know people who used to watch it a lot, but I didn't know that there was still people bothering with it..
I remember how incredibly powerful Capaldi's "I WILL NOT CHANGE" was, as he fought his regeneration by pounding into the snow. Looking back on that, you could kind of use that moment as foreshadowing....
Indeed! he was right all along XD
My headcanon is that he was the final Doctor
@@popot4627Same here.
Dude in the video labelled his run as "Diminishing returns", utter slander against a legendary Doctor.
@@popot4627 It's not your headcanon, it's the official Doctor Who canon.
Timelords can only regenerate 12 times, making 13 in total, meaning Capaldi WAS the last doctor, and no retconning will change what the creators of the show intended.
I honestly can't believe these clips are real, they are so off the scale ridiculous it's hard to believe someone actually wrote those lines and scenes and they got made without anyone with common sense saying "this story arch is crap and the dialogue is even worse"
Oh, it's real, and I don't think anyone with common sense worked on this show. Not anymore at least. God, Donna and Rose were spewing that nonsense was just so awful.
the first special was soo cringe...right after the doctor dared to assume the aliens pronouns i knew where this is going...and i thought...how did an alien even knew what pronouns mean? and why should it care? honestly when i see nowadays tv shows like this im very happy that i got born befor 2000 so i had an innocent childhood without needing to know all this stuff...
@@igneeldreemurr3643that’s the thing about the left, they think everyone thinks like them, I guess in this case they think aliens also go along with their BS 😂
I very quickly abandoned Dr Who under the Jodie Whittaker dumpster fire, due to the hammy writing and overriding identity politics. I came back for Tennant and Tate, but the dumpster fire is still very much burning. I might watch the Christmas special with a morbid stare, just to see how high the flames go, but that's it.
Well I watched the special, and it featured goblins stealing a baby, a goblin king and a musical number - which is perhaps fitting, as Doctor Who has turned into a Bog of Eternal Stench.
I don't know why they thought it was a good idea to change the show completely and continue to lose fans and viewership and then carry one.
Aside from the obvious intention, it seems to me that the "bi-generation" robs the new Doctor of fully owning the role. He hasn't been passed the baton really. He's been temporarily allowed to hold one end.
Entirely intentional- BbC & Dismaly are hedging their bets. When the ncunti experiment fails, he will be killed off.
Whos end tho ? 😂
As a Star Wars, MCU, DCU, LotR, Witcher fan... I offer my condolences to the Doctor Who fans! 😪
Thank you. It's so painful to watch the latest episodes.
I don't accept them , I enjoyed the specials 😃👍
@@herimen3153 Honestly I feel like Tennant came back as a nostalgia bait, and the last episode should have been longer. Anyways, I take Capaldi as my last Doctor for now.
I was a fan of all these properties and this just proves Tolkien's words true "Evil doesn't create it only CORRUPTS and DESTROYS"
Its just another thing ruined that lets say us "nerds" loved and used to be belittled/picked on/battered for years ago, same with star wars, lord of the rings and the wheel of time. I just hope that Amazon doesn't fuck up Warhammer 40K by introducing gay or female space marines, which they probably will...
Implying that being different makes you "More" is a real issue that I can't really get past. It just goes against every tenet of decency. Just as much as being different being "Less".
The image of David Tenant giving birth to a fully grown black guy from his pelvis while being told to "Push!" will be forever with me. 😐
Agreed, it was quite a disturbing scene.
@@Jypsie415how was it disturbing?! 🤣🤣🤣
@@operationorigins4714 Exactly; everyone knows that men can give birth - right? 🤔🤔🤔🤔
Lmao how did you even think of that hahahah
@@MrGorpm I saw no ‘giving birth’ in this episode
Just bought the complete series on DVD even though i haven't seen one episode. Wanted to save it before they erased the original from memory.
Bought the 2005 series 1-4 on bluray. Will get matt Smith, maybe the first two of capaldi and get the old ones. That's all I need
@@JohnDavidSullivan TorchWood has its moments, but everyone dies! Except DW cameo/new recruit
@@JohnDavidSullivan you need Eccleston too! He left but he was a good doctor.
Excellent idea, I will do the same. I expect the British Bolshevik Corporation to destroy all episodes pre 2017, due to them containing hate speech, and being “Off MESSAGE “
@@soelvfaks1Eccleston comes with the series 1-4 collection. He's series 1.
I have watched Doctor Who since I was a child in the 80s. I own ever episode possible from classic and new doctor who, except when I got to Jodi, I stopped collecting, and threw the first season of Jodi in the garbage.
once again Gary reminding me why I don't watch all this garbage. Thanks I appreciate all the work you do
Oh, the stunned silence in that theater when Tom Baker's voice boomed from off screen. A pin drop would have sounded deafening. Truly a moment in time now lost like tears in the rain. RIP Doctor Who.
Great reference 👌
Russell T Davies ushered in a successful reboot of Doctor Who in 2005, partly by perfectly harnessing the nostalgia and respect of older fans, while subtlely updating the series to appeal to new viewers. His instincts in this regard have abandoned him in 2023, or maybe it's that he's had nearly 20 years of people telling him how well he handled it last time and it's blown his ego into the stratosphere to the point where he now thinks he can do no wrong.
Watching Nucti Gutwa's Doctor dancing in a nightclub at the start of a new BBC trailer, wearing a singlet and kilt and nothing much else, it's clear that RTD has lost touch with who the lead character even is, and is instead writing some generic gay rom drama that happens to have a time travelling phone box in it. His disrespect of both Doctor Who's legacy in it's 60th anniversary year, and even his own legacy within that by bringing back David Tennant's Doctor only to shit all over it, has 'belled the cat' about how he will be proceeding with Doctor Who going forward.
The only blessing is that its going to be so bad, that Doctor Who's days are now almost certainly numbered. And at this point, it deserves to be canceled again. It needs a rest, so someone new with an actual love of the I.P. can come along in a decade or two and revive it peoperly.
Sorry but i never feel that RTD had respect to the older fans. He make Sarah Jane a love interest.
RTD has right and properly fucked the Dr. Who franchise, which may never recover. I've an idea: Feed all the Classic & NuWho (minus the latest rubbish; let fans be the judge) episodes into an A.I. programme. Let it write new episodes. Hell, it can't get any worse than Chinball's and Russel Tits Davies shitfest, could it?
Its just a crossover of all his shows, and most of his stuff was about gay blokes and nightclub culture. he just merged Doctor who into it.
Brilliant post! I wholeheartedly agree! I hope someone who really loved the show rescues it years from now after it is inevitably canceled.
@glenncoody They should do exactly this with many franchises like Dr who, Star Trek, Star Wars. Maybe they will be better than anything we got since a few years.
See that bit ... at 3:40 ... He was confusing himself as a woman all throughout that episode... I am +++++ all for Trans stuff being in things... but I felt like it was being beat into my head...
A male presenting time lord wouldn't understand? Such a slap in the face.
As a child he was my hero and rolemodel ...I was inspired to learn ..from science, to computers to biology to history and philosophy...
Now black kids will have the same. Is this a bad thing?
"Emotional baggage" Really?!! That's why I love the doctor. A person that has lived for the longest time, with vastly more experience and knowledge than his adversaries and supporters, all the loss, grief and mistakes he made, he has to live with all that and keep moving forward because he understands that if he stops, evil wins. "Emotional baggage"
And that is true Message lost on these fools now days. You cannot just drop your past, the pain, the trauma.
You learn to live with and keep moving forward, you find a way to use it to motivate you, to empower you, to make you better.
But these current fools think you can only wallow in it or forget it.
That is not how people work, and those who do function that way are broken people who need to fix themselves instead of "fixing" the world around them.
That's their way of saying "Let the past die. Kill it, if you have to." :/
Yeah- what these current "identity first!" writers fail to understand is that most people don't relate to characters based on color shades or sexuality, but rather based on the characters' actions and experiences.
Maybe gatekeeping wasn't about discriminating against people for things they can't control. Maybe it was about protecting the integrity of the franchise after all...
@@neutraliserjanine Stephanie Meyer? You do realize how many people mock the Twilight series right?
The only ones complaining about Gatekeeping being bad are the ones the gate is supposed to keep OUT.
@@zerosen1972 It's not about keeping women and minorities out right? It's about keeping those who destroy good stories out.
@@neutraliserjanine There can be people of diverse in the back ground without being main characters. So basically anyone that isn't white needs to be background characters. Okay...
@@claytonrios1They use women and non-whites as trojan horses to infiltrate and destroy it from within.
Women in general only try to infiltrate make spaces to make them arbor themselves and keep their gynocentric gritty going, because if men have their own spaces and hobbies, they might realize they have a right to exist for their own sake and not merely for the sake of women.
They took the emotional bagage and replaced it with shit bagage.
Loved Dr Who as a kid but it’s for no one now, certainly not kids!
Dr Who fans did NOT deserve to be treated like this. I mean, out of all the vandalized fandoms, this one really hurts to watch happen.
Can we talk about the Rings of Power over some 100 proof cocktails.
This one was particularly egregious..
I loved this show, I’m gonna miss the days we’re I was excited to watch it.
@@cherryfireice8216That was atrocious.
We don't talk about the ring of power.
We don't think about the ring of power
The ring of power doesn't exist.
@@cherryfireice8216 the rings of power is to lord of the rings what the starving games is to the hunger games. spinoff parody
I thank Doctor Who for helping me get through college and some rough times in my life. Matt Smith will always be my favorite Doctor and I’m so glad he was spared. The activists can have the series now.
Me too. Bow tie is MY guy
The last doctor really. The writing after that was abysmal.
@@andreeturnet5332peter capaldi had some good moments but the show ended with him for me
Also the 12th. Say what you want about the stories, but D A M N, that doctor was FANTASTIC. I leaned a lot from him and he will always be my doctor.
10 is also a big favorite and i loved his dinamic with donna in the 4th season. He also had G O O D stories, like midnight, waters of mars, the girl in the fireplace, human nature/family of blood, etc.
But MAN, it would have been sublime that the series ended with the 12th doctor. A beautifully tragic ending, but fitting for a character like the doctor
@@akodaah13-e32 I give credit where it's due. And CAPALDI gave some of the best inspiring or maybe gut-wrenching speeches.
Truly a great actor. He just needed better stories
Motorized wheelchair does not necessarily mean better wheelchair. When your upper half works, you tend to want to use it. Maybe I’m just being woke
We know history isn't to our liking, so by lying we can summon forth a new better society. The arrogance with a dollop of self righteousness that these people possess is extremely annoying.
I remember a time when looking at the history, even or especially the ugly stuff was held in high regards. Looking at facts, learning from mistakes. I kind of like this idea to be frank.
Showing history not how it was but how you would like it is a dangerous path, because everyone has a different idea of what it "should" be. That is also an insult to the actual humans who did great things if you miss represent them. Imagine showing the "I have a dream" speech and having a white actor do it. Doesn't feel right. Similarly showing a historical figure that was white as a person of color just doesn't feel right. Facts should not be changed.
Especially since I think showing it and talking in a respectful way how you could improve things has way more meaning then showing something wrong and claiming that's how it should be.
The timeless child causes so many plot wholes and writing issues it amazes me they don’t just act like it never happened and move on. It completely removes all tension from any scene where the doctor could die. Undoes the 11th doctors final episode(that being that he only has one life left and will spend it defending trenzalore) and so much more. It is the “jump the shark” moment of Dr. Who and as long as it’s canon it will forever harm the brand of Dr who
Well it WAS the Jumping the shark moment, unti bi-generation happened. Now according to RTD every past doctors regeneration became bi-generation and the old doctors didnt die as the new ones appeared, and all past canon is now set loose and undefined.
Chibnall changed canon back to the first minute of the show in 1963 and damaged it beyond repair. RTD has erased canon, completely, now only head canon matters and each viewer can make up whatever they want.
I dont think theres any way to come back from that.
Yep, it removes tension, and it removes the reward of the Doctor cheating his way out with bonus regenerations from the Timelords or something. The Bi-generation also removes the bittersweet goodbye of a Doctor and the surprise and time to shine for the new one.
Can't the doctor still die? Like The doctor could still be killed mid-generation and killed off. It was the over arching plot point of a whole season(6?). unless I missed something from the new series in which case I'm sorry.
@@lesigh1749 when did he say that every past regeneration was a bi-regeneration, i hope he didnt because otherwise that would be a major fuckup
@flakeomlet he only said it was his head canon, but it's not actual canon
The thing about this franchise is that part of its failing is the production fighting tooth and nail to accept that it's a joke with a punchline they desperately don't want to tell.
To be honest, if they really wanted to pull out of the flaming nosedive it's in, they could do so if they hired Dan Harmon to write and direct it - with full creative control over it and then had a pisstake in one episode where the Doctor and friends run into a Legally Distinct Bill and Ted who also have their own phone booth and turned the show into entertaining schlock.
Who did they write it for. Like film makers write things no one wants to watch and it’s stuff i imagine they only like
Doctor Who died after Capaldi, his last words perfectly said it, "Doctor, I let you go". We can let him go and wonder into the night on the Tardis going off on all those endless adventures.
Doctor Who re-invented itself after 16 years of hiatus (1989-2005) I believe this is the time to cancel it again and bring it back maybe 10-15 years later. My father grew up with the original, I grew up with 2005 Doctor Who (till 2016), and I hope my kids will have the same opportunity in 2035+
It isn't going anywhere. Ratings are still decent.
@@IllisiaAdams The ratings are exactly the same now as used to be in 1989.
Funded by UK taxpayers and now Disney. It’s not going anywhere.
fuck no
Yeah, many say the same about that in 2006.
Yep. The whole thing was essentially a Series 4 and RTD Era celebration.
Go woke, go broke. There are some things you should just not change. The Doctor should not be a woman. The Doctor should not be black. Just leave things alone.
All the more bloodboiling to think about the fact that russel T Davies COULD write amazing Doctor Who stories, he just chose not to
I stood in front of a statue depicting a great hero. He was a legendary hero, greater than life, and I remember being awestruck by the greatness the statue managed to exert. But when I looked at it, I saw that the statue had been vandalized. Some cruel hands had chiseled, painted, and bent the statue until it was unrecognizable. I began to weep, and a child asked me why I was crying. I told the child it was because of the statue. Such a great and noble thing had been destroyed, and it saddened me. The child asked me why would such a thing upset me. It is but a statue after all. And I told the child that it represented such great and beautiful things, greater and more beautiful than anyone could imagine, and now no one will experience it ever again. And the child will never get the chance to glimpse it either.
What you have written there is so beautiful.
The child will never understand the importance of this metaphorical statue, nor the statues of real people getting torn down in the name of progress all over the west.
Wonderful text there. Summarizes what the woke cultural barbarians have done. Erased our cultural past and ruined our present and future.
" Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert.
Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies,"
- Ozymandias by P. B. Shelley
I'm a bit torn as I like that David tennant is still the 14th doctor, but some of it is either cringe or a bit too convenient
What chu talkin bout, Gaz? The First Black Doctor Wot Irrationally Hates Trousers is the best Scottish-Rwandan Doctor played by an actor with an unpronouncable name everrrrr!
"Scottish-Rwandan" sounds like something out of Monty python😂
Doctor What, as in “What the hell are we supposed to like about seeing everything be destroyed before our eyes?”
Doctor Why, as in “Why would they do this?”
Doctor How, as in “How could they do this to us?”
Doctor Where, as in “Where will the wokies go next?”
GAY POLITICAL ACTIVISM is the reason and the desire to screw everything up for the other people who did enjoy the show just to be a bi(ch ....you can see it in the producers eyes and mannerisms in every interview and whenever he talks about the show
well said and a lot of us folk in the UK have left in disgust
It’s not the same Doctor anymore. It’s a clone.
It's cool that they let us know right up front that we never want to watch the show ever again
It is sad to see identity politics be thrown into fans' faces, and none of it is clever but just cringe. RIP
How prophetic was it that the 12th Doctor's last words were, "Doctor, I let you go." 😢
Oh well, I have a lot of the original Doctor Who on DVD or Blu-Ray, and all of the modern Who through Capaldi (not all the 12th Doctor was woke or bad) on Blu-Ray. That's how I will choose to remember the show.
For me the prophetic/4th wall breaking line was "I don't want to do this anymore" uttered by old guy companion in the Rosa Parks episode. Me either buddy...me either...
Capaldi is where the collapse began, but you're right, not all of it was bad. I liked the Clara arc, and the episode after her death is probably one of the best episodes of Dr. Who ever produced period.
Capaldi's doctor had some really bad moments but I also think it may have had the best moments as well. It was such an up and down. The Zygone war speech from Capaldi may arguably be the best moment in the whole show. Him trapped in the confession dial I personally think was one of the most simple sequences in the show but also one of the most well written and emotional when the reveal happens.
@@shadoukingu3730 Agreed on all points.
"Heaven Sent" was an awesome episode with a simple premise that really paid off. Hell Bent was a good follow-up to it.