These cars are too young to know if battery warranties are going to be extended. All I’ll say having had two is they are magnificent cars and providing you can afford to run one with a full warranty you will never be disappointed.
Taycan values will accelerate downwards after the 8-year warranty runs out that’s for sure. It will need a whole new industry of specialists that will be able to repair the old batteries for a lower cost.
I was very close to getting 2024 Taycan 4S. I've always considered Porsche's to be reliable daily drivable cars. After following the various forums and subreddits, it became clear the risks of issues and time in the shop for recalls and problems was too high. Pity, they look great and drive better than I'd expected for a large and heavy car.
Hi. I think that the modul problem has to do something with its sealing some owners already had before. So if so, the most Taycans gets a service during the warranty! Yessss, it's a big problem but it seems to be a supplier failure! So Porsche does not have to pay the whole story... What should you do? Don't worry about it, if they got a series issue they will replace all of the battery packs the next two or three years. Here in Germany many owners gets a letter where they are informed that Porsche will make live data control of the battery pack over the air! When someone don't want to use live data then they have to visit the store every 60 days to get an electronically test with data savings. If I get this letter I will allow Porsche live data over the air! It should be guaranteed that you get an information about the issues and a reduced battery capacity, so you can use the car until it gets to service. So we have to wait for it and just take it easy. Shit happens, even on a luxury sportscar! Kia and Hyundai had issues with their battery as well as BMW and Mercedes.... 🤷🏼♂️ It's shure still about early adopters time... 😉 Have a friendly holiday and peaceful Christmas! 🎄🕯️🕯️🕯️🕯️👈
Yeah, I had the letter through too and happy for them to run OTA diagnostics. Hopefully it will help to make the whole battery program better for all owners! Right now, I'm just enjoying these awesome cars. Have a wonderful holiday too! 🎅🏻
Ok, if the 8 years pass, you will change the break module, and you will pay for it. I think this is a normal damage for an 8 year's old car. I don't see amy problem. My 997 have more issues...believe me
Taycans are already being recalled due to a possible battery fire and owners are being warned until the fix is available not to charge beyond 80%. The depreciation on Taycans is jaw dropping.
I don’t disagree however if I simple part fails in a standard ICE engine it’s going to cause the same issue - my biggest concern is if your not covered under warranty, then replacing battery packs is very costly and too much money however if an ICE engine goes wrong the cost of repairs is generally affordable
A lot people think EV's are simple & the motors replace the ICE but they are very different and much more complex the battery pack becomes the engine that delivers the power. With an ICE you normally get a warning of a problem and have time to fix with an EV's battery pack a problem usually means power failure and much more costly & complex to sort out.
Another Great video with direct honesty. I think the 70% battery warranty is an example of Porsche taking the mickey out of the customer. I like all German car makers but they all have a good kicking coming from the chinese and it’s well and truly overdue.
There is "potential" for everything under the Sun (e.g., there is "potential" for the aforementioned Sun to explode) All of your subscribers are sympathetic to your recent Taycan issue; however, your projections are based upon a *very* small sample, so I don't think your issue -- again, though quite unfortunate -- is necessarily representative. Therefore, until the Sun explodes, make every effort to enjoy your life ✌
As informed by Alex Voigt on UA-cam as well as in several other media channels sind 2021, backed by myself and a Whistleblower from Porsche, about 60% of the Taycan seem to be delivered knowingly with faulty modules. There are many pro-Porsche outlets telling this is rubbish. However, your experience and the experience of several people I know owning (or having owned) Taycan is telling a different story. Since the pouch cells of the Jaguar iPace and the Chevrolet Bolt - both had several "hot incidents" - are coming from the very same supplier you just have to do the math and hope for the best for your own car. It would be sad if an otherwise excellent car would become a lemon because of the battery.
What we should know and get data is what really fails and why? Porsche must have very big data collected already. Hope before we reach 8 years or 160tkm they release details. There are already tons of videos other battery repair shops and through looking those even they are mostly for other cars than Porsche I would not be worried at all. Batteries are much bigger volume products than any other Porsche parts so there will be good price opportunities to repair after 8 year if needed. What I'm looking for in the future is to have a possibility to change to a totally different battery. Lighter and, maybe more kWh etc. And this especially while car itself is magnificent. I have had 4S more than 4 years and love to drive it every day. And here in Finland, especially winter its super! Range for me who doesn't drive 1000km/day has never been any issue so far.
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I’m pretty sure Porsche will install future semi solid state batteries since it’s considered a high end brand. Better safety and much higher range. Future batteries in near future will be 10 min full charge, 600 miles of range and 1 MIL mile warranty. Then ICE cars are dead.
I believe Gen 2 Taycans are using battery cells from a Chinese manufacturer, either CATL or BYD. If the tray is the same as Gen 1, Porsche could potentially replace all the cells which would still be a monumental job. LG Solution is the 3rd, I think, largest EV battery maker in the world.
Thanks for another thought provoking video. However, I suspect that your stats are a bit pessimistic. Battery technology is quite mature and a 1% failure rate for cells is too high. From the research I have seen, the 1 to 1.5% of failures is in whole batteries - not individual cells. The inherent reliability of batteries and the slower than expected rates of deterioration, has meant that there have a shortage of 2nd use batteries for companies who wanted to use them for home power systems. On this basis, it would be 1 to 1.5% of Taycans not battery cells in Taycans. This probably compares well with problems in other makes and would be wonderful for many ICE car manufacturers. As you say however, the warranty is key and I agree that buying one with a warranty is a good idea, but I would say this with any luxury car. As things progress and the data gets clearer, I imagine some entrepreneurial warranty companies will pick up special battery warranties in due course - and in fact will have to once the ICE cars leave production. I look forward to seeing how it goes, and as a Taycan owner myself, I hope my view is more likely….
This channel has become entirely focused on criticizing the Taycan. I can't help but wonder how this guy would have handled my two McLaren's service experiences. After the second major failure of my 750S, would he have survived, or would he have had a stroke? Honestly, he comes across as a bit of a drama queen.
You mean this channel where I often say this car is phenomenal? Had the same McLaren experience on my new 570s, no strokes, all very calmly dealt with. All I'm doing here is presenting some food for thought.
Thx for your Taycan videos. I am driving my 3rd Taycan and love it (had a turbo, turbo S and now a 4S). The car is great but did have its share of recalls and fixes. I'd recommend every Taycan owner to buy the extended Porsche Approved Warranty which can be bought and extended until the car is 15 years old, and it includes the traction battery. This being said (I am a former automotive executive), Porsche could easily extend the battery warranty to say 12 years and 300000 km. The cost for it would be very low and it would significantly help the Taycan's residual value. See my video on the Taycan 4S here: Considering a Used Porsche Taycan? Here's What to Expect. ua-cam.com/video/rPx6jjQKcVA/v-deo.html
Mate, good content, but PLEASE stop these sensationalist titles. I get you need clicks to monetise your channel, but don’t take us for mugs. If you thought your Taycan was crap you would have sold it. Porsche, as with all their cars, provides warranties, which includes the batteries. If anything goes wrong you get a replacement battery pack. Also, the Panasonic batteries that have the issues comprise 18-20% of the global Taycan. So, PLEASE, chill with the doomsday scenario? Cheers
These cars are too young to know if battery warranties are going to be extended. All I’ll say having had two is they are magnificent cars and providing you can afford to run one with a full warranty you will never be disappointed.
Taycan values will accelerate downwards after the 8-year warranty runs out that’s for sure. It will need a whole new industry of specialists that will be able to repair the old batteries for a lower cost.
They have already accelerated downwards
A timebomb is a little alarmist! Just make sure you buy one with a warranty and keep extending it
or just don't buy taycan or any other overpriced crap from germany.
I love Porsche but they need a better repairability strategy for their EVs to protect their value & name
I was very close to getting 2024 Taycan 4S. I've always considered Porsche's to be reliable daily drivable cars. After following the various forums and subreddits, it became clear the risks of issues and time in the shop for recalls and problems was too high. Pity, they look great and drive better than I'd expected for a large and heavy car.
Hi.
I think that the modul problem has to do something with its sealing some owners already had before. So if so, the most Taycans gets a service during the warranty!
Yessss, it's a big problem but it seems to be a supplier failure! So Porsche does not have to pay the whole story...
What should you do?
Don't worry about it, if they got a series issue they will replace all of the battery packs the next two or three years.
Here in Germany many owners gets a letter where they are informed that Porsche will make live data control of the battery pack over the air! When someone don't want to use live data then they have to visit the store every 60 days to get an electronically test with data savings.
If I get this letter I will allow Porsche live data over the air! It should be guaranteed that you get an information about the issues and a reduced battery capacity, so you can use the car until it gets to service.
So we have to wait for it and just take it easy.
Shit happens, even on a luxury sportscar!
Kia and Hyundai had issues with their battery as well as BMW and Mercedes.... 🤷🏼♂️
It's shure still about early adopters time... 😉
Have a friendly holiday and peaceful Christmas! 🎄🕯️🕯️🕯️🕯️👈
Yeah, I had the letter through too and happy for them to run OTA diagnostics.
Hopefully it will help to make the whole battery program better for all owners!
Right now, I'm just enjoying these awesome cars.
Have a wonderful holiday too! 🎅🏻
But I hate these titles. So much so I will unsubscribe
Ok, if the 8 years pass, you will change the break module, and you will pay for it. I think this is a normal damage for an 8 year's old car. I don't see amy problem. My 997 have more issues...believe me
Taycans are already being recalled due to a possible battery fire and owners are being warned until the fix is available not to charge beyond 80%. The depreciation on Taycans is jaw dropping.
Battery has its’ own 8 year 100k mile warranty, so that should cover any issues over that time.
I don’t disagree however if I simple part fails in a standard ICE engine it’s going to cause the same issue - my biggest concern is if your not covered under warranty, then replacing battery packs is very costly and too much money however if an ICE engine goes wrong the cost of repairs is generally affordable
A lot people think EV's are simple & the motors replace the ICE but they are very different and much more complex the battery pack becomes the engine that delivers the power. With an ICE you normally get a warning of a problem and have time to fix with an EV's battery pack a problem usually means power failure and much more costly & complex to sort out.
Another Great video with direct honesty. I think the 70% battery warranty is an example of Porsche taking the mickey out of the customer.
I like all German car makers but they all have a good kicking coming from the chinese and it’s well and truly overdue.
Thanks, interesting times ahead!
There is "potential" for everything under the Sun (e.g., there is "potential" for the aforementioned Sun to explode)
All of your subscribers are sympathetic to your recent Taycan issue; however, your projections are based upon a *very* small sample, so I don't think your issue -- again, though quite unfortunate -- is necessarily representative. Therefore, until the Sun explodes, make every effort to enjoy your life ✌
Thing is, you're just making up those potential failure rates from nowhere.
@nathanstretch considering each of those 33 modules contains 12 individual cells, it could be even worse 🙃
As informed by Alex Voigt on UA-cam as well as in several other media channels sind 2021, backed by myself and a Whistleblower from Porsche, about 60% of the Taycan seem to be delivered knowingly with faulty modules. There are many pro-Porsche outlets telling this is rubbish. However, your experience and the experience of several people I know owning (or having owned) Taycan is telling a different story. Since the pouch cells of the Jaguar iPace and the Chevrolet Bolt - both had several "hot incidents" - are coming from the very same supplier you just have to do the math and hope for the best for your own car. It would be sad if an otherwise excellent car would become a lemon because of the battery.
What we should know and get data is what really fails and why? Porsche must have very big data collected already. Hope before we reach 8 years or 160tkm they release details. There are already tons of videos other battery repair shops and through looking those even they are mostly for other cars than Porsche I would not be worried at all. Batteries are much bigger volume products than any other Porsche parts so there will be good price opportunities to repair after 8 year if needed. What I'm looking for in the future is to have a possibility to change to a totally different battery. Lighter and, maybe more kWh etc. And this especially while car itself is magnificent. I have had 4S more than 4 years and love to drive it every day. And here in Finland, especially winter its super! Range for me who doesn't drive 1000km/day has never been any issue so far.
Great content, as always! I need some advice: My OKX wallet holds some USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). How can I transfer them to Binance?
I’m pretty sure Porsche will install future semi solid state batteries since it’s considered a high end brand. Better safety and much higher range. Future batteries in near future will be 10 min full charge, 600 miles of range and 1 MIL mile warranty. Then ICE cars are dead.
Stay away from LG Chem batteries. Every Chevy Bolt, Hyundai EV and many VW, Audi and Porsche EV have been recalled or failed.
I believe Gen 2 Taycans are using battery cells from a Chinese manufacturer, either CATL or BYD. If the tray is the same as Gen 1, Porsche could potentially replace all the cells which would still be a monumental job. LG Solution is the 3rd, I think, largest EV battery maker in the world.
Yes, it's different tech on the gen 2s, and they seem to be holding out pretty well!
Thanks for another thought provoking video. However, I suspect that your stats are a bit pessimistic. Battery technology is quite mature and a 1% failure rate for cells is too high. From the research I have seen, the 1 to 1.5% of failures is in whole batteries - not individual cells. The inherent reliability of batteries and the slower than expected rates of deterioration, has meant that there have a shortage of 2nd use batteries for companies who wanted to use them for home power systems. On this basis, it would be 1 to 1.5% of Taycans not battery cells in Taycans. This probably compares well with problems in other makes and would be wonderful for many ICE car manufacturers.
As you say however, the warranty is key and I agree that buying one with a warranty is a good idea, but I would say this with any luxury car.
As things progress and the data gets clearer, I imagine some entrepreneurial warranty companies will pick up special battery warranties in due course - and in fact will have to once the ICE cars leave production.
I look forward to seeing how it goes, and as a Taycan owner myself, I hope my view is more likely….
This channel has become entirely focused on criticizing the Taycan. I can't help but wonder how this guy would have handled my two McLaren's service experiences. After the second major failure of my 750S, would he have survived, or would he have had a stroke? Honestly, he comes across as a bit of a drama queen.
Nah, disagree, all issues he talks about aren’t just anecdotal but too common not to talk about them.
He is just reporting what went wrong, and why not?
Besides, he has appreciated and loved his Taycan many times!
You mean this channel where I often say this car is phenomenal? Had the same McLaren experience on my new 570s, no strokes, all very calmly dealt with. All I'm doing here is presenting some food for thought.
Yes, it started well but gone a bit one sided now…
@@TABonTV It's just classic clickbait and you know it. And it works, until it won't. Food for thought.
Thx for your Taycan videos. I am driving my 3rd Taycan and love it (had a turbo, turbo S and now a 4S). The car is great but did have its share of recalls and fixes. I'd recommend every Taycan owner to buy the extended Porsche Approved Warranty which can be bought and extended until the car is 15 years old, and it includes the traction battery.
This being said (I am a former automotive executive), Porsche could easily extend the battery warranty to say 12 years and 300000 km. The cost for it would be very low and it would significantly help the Taycan's residual value. See my video on the Taycan 4S here: Considering a Used Porsche Taycan? Here's What to Expect.
ua-cam.com/video/rPx6jjQKcVA/v-deo.html
Mate, good content, but PLEASE stop these sensationalist titles. I get you need clicks to monetise your channel, but don’t take us for mugs. If you thought your Taycan was crap you would have sold it. Porsche, as with all their cars, provides warranties, which includes the batteries. If anything goes wrong you get a replacement battery pack. Also, the Panasonic batteries that have the issues comprise 18-20% of the global Taycan. So, PLEASE, chill with the doomsday scenario? Cheers