LOCKED UP Ford 351W 5.8L V8 Engine Teardown. How Bad Could It Be?
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- Опубліковано 15 бер 2024
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Today's teardown is a 5.8L 351 Windsor from a 1996 Ford F250 with 210K miles. This engine sat on the shelf for 17 years! Im not sure if it was a running engine when the truck was dismantled but it surely isn't now! This one was a real struggle and I didn't feel great about the end result. Sometimes its like that! You never know what these "Core" engines are going to be like until they are on the stand.
Why am I doing this? My name is Eric and I own and run a full service auto salvage business called Importapart. Part of our model includes dismantling blown and bad engines to salvage the good parts to resell. We do not rebuild engines, merely supply parts to those who do.
I really hope you enjoyed this teardown, as always I love all of the comments, feedback and even the criticism. Catch you on the next one!
-Eric - Авто та транспорт
"It was on a shelf for 17 years"
What they didn't say was it was the continental shelf.
on a shelf in the 6 flags splash zone wreckers
Bah you stole my joke!
Going to remember that one 👍
Mariana Trench 😮
Not a single water pump bolt broke!? Buy a lottery ticket immediately!!
Why? He just used up all his luck!
I've taken MANY off without breaking bolts.... 🤷🏻
@@davelowetsWow that's cool bro.
That's no joke. My 94 302 broke half of them.
@@davelowetsthere very bad about breaking.ive taken alot off successfully as well but also have had alot break.
Had one 5 out of 7 broke
Last year, I was in Oklahoma and bought a 1984 F150 4x4 with a locked up 300ci. I trailered it home and rebuilt the motor. It's my daily driver now.
I live in Oklahoma and in December I trailered home from North Carolina a 1983 F-150 4x4 300 six with 17000 original miles. Still needs some tlc due to age, but I’ve been daily driving it and I love it!
Im sure at some point brandon will ban these old trucks and force you to buy 10,000 lbs of chinese batteries
@@robertshelton3796what a totally on-topic not against the guidelines response to a couple guys having a good time sharing trucks
those 300 engines even with rod knocks will go 300k easy great engine
First engine I did real work on was 300. Head gasket failed. Got it in 91 was a senior in high school and in my second year of auto teck. The owner sold the truck to me for 500 bucks. I drove that truck for 3 years it ran great. My girlfriend at the time hated it. I sold it to make her happy. Should had kept the truck and dumped her. LOL
I have a 1986 f150 show truck all original 5200 miles on it. We made those 351's in Windsor Engine Plant 1. The 302 was made in Windsor Engine Plant 2 back in the 80's. We used to pour our own blocks and cranks back then at Windsor Casting Plant. I remember we used to hot test (start) them on chains back then. Also that is the original colour we painted the engines with grey not blue. THANK YOU for sharing this teardown, it brings back a ton of good memories Eric.👍
Very nice! im more of a fan of the 351c Ive had both and the Windsor never held up as good as the Cleveland
Thats awesome. So that means you are in Canada eh? What happened next?? The Windsor won the reliability and economy test. How do you feel about the Cleveland sibling? I can barely get 8 mpg from my 2V Cleveland with 10:1 compression but it breaths well.
I bought a 86 F150 4x4 new with a 351 Windsor and automatic.
Girlfriend at the time, and two of her friends got hit broadside by a cop, smashed the passenger side door all the way into the transmission. They all had pretty bad injuries, but survived.
Truck had 17,000 miles when totaled.
@@jamesmedina2062There was a clear difference in the block casting method we used than Cleveland. We were a fast pour block line. The metal never sat long and we used a different formula than Cleveland our molecules were more angular. Cleveland used to store the metal in pools and had molecular problems because the molecules sat too long they would align creating a weaker block. This was determined by Ford and they asked us to go to Cleveland to show them how we did it here. I'm not knocking a Cleveland block, I had a 72 Torino with a 302C in it and it was great. We still have new 351's in storage here in Windsor, factory built in crates.
@@Shotgun_Messenger hmmmm. This is all very fascinating but makes ask more questions. I know different casting methods affect aluminum strength and hammering iron will modify the molecules and make them stronger. I thought the cranks were made using nodular iron but not sure what that is. From a dimensional perspective in the block itself I think 1/8 inch is about what came on the Cleveland and so boring 0.060 is frowned on. Mine was done to 0.030. I think they had no clue how to make the cars lighter back then so not sure why Cleve was thin-walled. So much on my 71 was too heavy. My car was about 3600 lbs wet on the scales and with alloy manifold and glass hood was about 3500. The Aussies found Cleveland weaknesses and tried to solve them. I think my build was mistaken to try and go for daily street use. I need better gearing and to take hyd roller cam out and stick solid roller in it for fast driving only! Cheers
"Dont throw that away! You never know when you'll need that."
Said every hoarder ever.
Guilty as charged.
But sometimes you do need it, and then you can't find it. 😅
If I only need 10% of what I've saved it's a WIN
But the way the universe is wired, the only time you need it is exactly 2 weeks after you throw it away.
@@paulmoir4452 Another universal truth is that if you lose something and buy a replacement, the original will show up immediately.
I was fighting lug nuts on a project car I've been working on. Someone had stripped 3 of the 6 lug nuts on the drivers front wheel. I thought to myself, "What would Eric do?". 20mm deep socket took the other lug nuts off so I went and grabbed a 19mm deep socket and hammered it on the lug nuts....came right off.
That’s exactly what I’d do!
Had my first similar experience with a torx bit, only went bigger. Thanks, Eric…
Lol I threw my four way and went to harbor freight and got the lug nut kit got them stripped lug nut out whew the price for five is 50 dollars
WWED ? is the new sign in my garage.
Your pre-teardown soliloquy can be summed up as follows: “take a giant engine, detune it until it barely runs and it will barely run forever”.
I am absolutely useless with my hands and couldn't wrench if my life depended on it, but I watch a new video from you every Saturday night. Religiously. Love this content.
I could take it apart - but as for doing so in a way that made the parts sellable, that's another matter.
Taking apart is easy. It's remembering where everything goes is harder. It's good you know your limits. Many don't and try repairs they can not do and then have to beg someone to fix their mess. My Dad was a mechanic some I am decent at fixing car stuff. Now plumbing I hate to do work on.
I could see an engine sitting for 17 years in a humid, un-conditioned shop collecting that moisture and water. 17 years of cold damp mornings with water condensing on the block and cylinder walls.
I've had a Ford 4.6 sitting outside under trash bags and a tarp for a year now. Turned her over the other day butter smooth still
I worked on the line at the Windsor plant for 6 months in 1973(and 6 months prior to that in the foundry) to make money for school. My main job was to put 4 nuts on the rod caps then torque them down 2 at a time.
I am ready for my Saturday night episode of "Man Vs. Dipstick Tube: The Eternal Struggle."
After seeing that induction tool work, I went to Amazon and bought one. You haven't lived until you've torn down and rebuilt a marine engine with raw water cooling that was used in salt water. Almost every fastener needed a hot wrench to remove.
I do some marine work too and yes, everything is a hassle when trying to remove bolts. How do you like the induction tool? Good on rusted stuff or do you still mostly torch stuff off?
Had a 351 W in a 76 Sea Ray boat awhile back. It was approaching 3000 hours and people would comment and be in awe with how well it ran. I changed the oil several times a year but thats it. Even had the original all water pump. There is little out there now that can compare in terms of endurance.
Induction tools are a must have I used it a lot when I was in boces
@@giggiddyI just ordered the induction tool so I haven't had a chance to try it. I've always used an ox/acetylene torch.
I enjoy the respect you give each engine disassembly, regardless of age or condition.
There is an old retired man from Ford assembly line that made that thing going "Oh!, Damn!"...
That's actually pretty incredible that you got those water pump bolts out
Still daily my 1994 F150. No rust on the frame, despite living in PA, because every winter I get underneath it with a paint brush and a gallon of bar and chain oil.
Smart
Good to hear, I inherited a truck and have been spraying it with woolwax but there's always that lil doubt that you're just fighting for nothing
For the heck of it, try one of the better rust converters. I would expect that will 'seal' up a lot of it exposed metal and drastically reduce the need for coating the entire underbody.
I've got a 1991 F350 that's served as a faithful winter beater and plow truck for about 15 years in Iowa now. I use engine oil mixed with automatic transmission fluid and a pump bug sprayer, but the idea is basically the same... Metal coated in oil doesn't rust.
Every time it rains you must leave a ground rainbow in your wake
Perfect timing! I'm right in the middle of helping a friend rebuild the 351W in his Bronco. If everything continues going according to plan, it should be back together and running better than ever by the end of next week😃
Wow!!!! Fast work!!! Enjoy
Did increasing value of Broncos birth the project?
@@jamesmedina2062 Nope. He is definitely not going to sell it, he just had it for years and it never ran quite right since he got it and he wanted to get it running how it should again, which we did.
"That was a mistake. Let's do it again." This is why I love this channel.
Remember the quote from Bojack Horsemen at 2:09. "When looking at things through rose colored glasses, red flags just look like flags"
This is a fantastic quote
The stuff that came out of the pan looks like somebody fed it Taco Bell.
I think that was a record for the word “penetrator”! Lol!! Great job, Eric! Love the Saturday night tear downs!
My first engine I rebuilt was a 302 out of my 93 F-150. They're great trucks and great engines.
My 1992 5.8 Flareside extended cab is still going strong with 195k, no oil leaks, coolant leaks are prevalent as I replace hoses when needed. It's still my daily driver though, and has been for over a decade.
No oil leaks? Rebuilt or it's got no oil in it?
Does it still make oil pressure? I suspect lack of OP is what caused someone to give up on the engine in the video
@@mvb819 It has great oil pressure, up to the L on Normal, I run seafoam in the engine every other year. and seasonally in the tanks. My commute is only 8 miles though, used to be 20. I do oil changes in the spring and fall, theres some seepage but still good compression and oil pressure.
Here's an idea! Treat the remaining stuck cylinders with different compounds like motor oil, Marvel, trans fluid, etc for a couple weeks and then give them a go with an air hammer and report as to what fluid seems to break things up the best!
could hone the liners out above the piston head. once the pistons get hammered on to the honed liner, they'll be much easier to move.
Luckily here in the south, you can still buy those OBS Ford trucks because trucks wear out, not rot out.
Shut Up Man!
I sold my 1996 e250 van with 5.8 back in 2012. Had 250 k miles, ran like new, no oil leaks, no oil consumption. Replaced it with Chevy Express 3500 with 6.0l . It had so many problems and my old Ford e250 was bulletproof.
I had a 96 e150 van with that engine . Sold it at 250000 miles still running strong . It got oil changes every 5k miles . Saw it a year ago still running with over 300k.
Man I bought my first car, a 66 VW for $50 from a Vietnam helicopter pilot in the 70s. I've done so much in the 50 years since and many of the now priceless cars I've owned are in museums today. I love your attitude and the way you go about things. You say things I've said myself. It's just fun. Anyway, keep doing what you're doing and I'll keep watching. Will I learn anything? Who knows, but hey it seems like an adventure.
Thats crazy. I was wondering earlier today when he's going to tear down a 351. There's still a ton of them at salvage yards. Awesome!
I had a friend who restored veteran cars. He'd have thought this was great and would have cleaned and repaired every single part. I remember a FIAT engine (Pre 1920 4cyl) from Brazil , it was rusted through on one side. He cast in new metal!! It was like brand new about two years later! An amazingly patient and skilled man, unfortunately gone now. Sadly missed.
Awesome thanks for breaking up my Saturday night boredom
I love looking forward to Saturday night for these vids! God bless!
Thank you!
One thing that made these engines so low powered is that they used the same small valve E7 heads that the Mustang used. They had lots of potential though.
Among MANY other things..
They also have restrictive cams, restrictive emissions and aren't very well made from the factory as far as cylinder alignment goes. If you want power get a C9 or D4 casting 351w with the thick webs, the roller 351s have casting flaws that make them very weak compared to the older ones.
@@SPAZTICCYTOPLASM The roller 5.0 blocks are even worse. They can randomly split in half at the whiff of 500h.p.
@@davelowetsThe only way to prevent the factory 302 blocks from cracking is beefed up the factory block by grinding all of the sharp edges on the sides of the block and grinding all the sharp edges on the valley (that where the 302 block starts to Crack if it makes 500 HP), I've seen that part on Horsepower TV.
Actually, they are e7te heads, which means the Mustang used the truck heads.
I currently own a 1997 F250HD with a 351 and a ZF5, and it's also 4x4. This is the 7th obs I've owned and by far the best.
I managed to break the 2 outer most water pump bolts off in the block and it still seals with the rest of them in place. 😅
I plan on restoring the truck.
It's crazy that you picked today to tear down a SBF, I actually spent my afternoon taking apart a 331 (ran when pulled, lots of metal in the oil).
0:28 All of those gas engines go straight back to the 1960s. The OBS was the end of the line for them. The longblock on your stand is a 1960s design with some 1990s set dressing haphazardly duct taped to the intake manifold.
Induction heaters are VERY handy.
I’m watching while sitting in my 19ft travel trailer that I have lived in for the last couple years. I tow it with my 2005 F150 that I bought new with 25 miles. It now has 340,000 miles and the 5.4 has been awesome. I did have to rebuild my transmission at 295,000 though. Damn Fords! 😐
Rust and crust enough to keep any acid bath happy for a week. Even then, there is no guarantee that the cam will give up its embrace with the block. That was a lot of work. But thanks for doing it.
The cam is "captured" with bearings, and will not be stuck in the block
_E7TE Heads Aren't Worth Much?!!_ . . if you say so. Anyway, I have a story for you regarding Ford transmissions. I won a scholarship from FoMoCo in the mid eighties to go thru Fords A.S.S.E.T. program (now called FAST) and I traveled to N.E. Ohio to attend. As an apprentice at an approved dealership I was often tasked with the job of parts runner. The shop truck was a 1980 F-150 with a 300-six and automatic tranny. In 1986 the truck already had over 700,000 miles on it. The engine was original and I got R&R it's seventh transmission.
How much do YOU want to pay for some?
I'll sell you as many as you want, if you think that they're so "valuable".. 🤷🏻
Y'all ever heard of a manual transmission??? My neighbor worked at the missile base 75 miles away, 150 mile commute. Honda Civic went through 4 automatic transmissions in 650,000 miles and made me scratch my head!! Those drive great in stick form!
@@davelowets.. what is the point of your comment? Do you feel better? Why be such a braggart?
First generation AOD were extra light duty
Yes! Those 300’s were made to last. E7TE heads were the go to for a long while. Every time I’d do a bid for a couple on Ebay they’d be gone. I ended up with some GT40P’s tho’.
I had a 5.8 in my 96 E350. Did a F250 4WD conversion and installed a 410W and lifted it back in 2015.
Very nice, so basically the 351 Windsor in the Econoline Van is now a 410 Windsor Stroker?
@@CJColvin it was a 410 Windsor. I said it *had* a 5.8 and I installed a 410W. 😬 might want a refund on that education…
@@RadDadisRad Gotcha
@@RadDadisRad Just asking, how much power does it make now?
@@CJColvin I sold it 2 years ago during Covid, but it was on a Holley Sniper making 508/572 on 91 pump gas and 427/545 on 87 pump gas
Babe wake up, Eric posted a new teardown video
Please just stop , you don’t have a babe
I swear to God .... 😡
I want some pudding
"Babe" doesn't care....
Thanks for the Saturday night entertainment Eric. Love seeing some of these older V-8s. My brother used to have a ski boat with a 351W, though it was older than this one, as the boat was an 86. Keep the great content coming.
Outstanding video.
My Nephew has a towing company and he has been sitting on a ford mustang for over five years and it's wrecked really bad and I'm going to show him this video.
I've been trying to get him to scrap it but he see dollar signs.
I'm going up at the end of April to help out.
If you don't mind I'll try and send a picture.
This is more an archeological exploration than a tear down!
When I was in college in 1986 and 1987, during the summers I worked for Dave Thomas Landscaping in Trenton, Mish-Gin. We had an '81 F150 stake bed truck with a 351 Windsor and a two barrel carb. 4 speeds on the floor, the truck had about 150 hp? Well, it was heavy and towed a trailer full of walk behind mowers around like it wasn't back there, but when we took it up I-75 into Detroit, I only did about 60 mph. I was scared to go any faster with this thing....
[We drove through a neighborhood on the east side of Detroit going to Connors Creek power plant; We used to roll up the windows and drive through stops signs in that neighborhood, and we were four big guys in a big truck with a lot of weapons handy, that neighborhood was BAD! And during my time working there, we only found one dead body festering in the long grass that we had to mow....]
I've never understood the difference between 351 Windsors and 351 Clevelands, other than the Windsors were cast in Windsor, Canuckistan, while the other is built in that inferior state to the south with a loser football team named after an inedible nut. Why would you have two V8 engines of the same displacement that are not interchangeable, sold at about the same time? Someone got their cock sucked in order to make this one happen, and the Ford family members are famous for being utter and complete DRUNKS (good lord Benson Ford~!) and Edsel Ford III, who weighed 360 pounds when he was 10 years old, all in the Detroit area. Some slimy combination of the two must have happened.
Anyway, Great video!
There are numerous reasons why Ford went that way, albeit only for about 5 years. The 351C was built for N.A. from 70-74, and were the top-tier performance engine.
IIRC, the 351W was based on the same block as the 302, while the 351C was based on the 400.
The 351W was made til 97, and are going to be far, far easier to get parts for as there were a ton of them and you can use parts from 302 as well.
If you have the questions, Google can help you out.
This is what I've been waiting for, fantastic! I have the 1995 5.0 Flairside. 167,000 miles going strong still.
Looking at water pouring out to the oil pan drain plug, reminded me of my 67 Mustang 460. Last year in the spring, it rained so much, humidity was dripping off the oil pan etc big time. So glad I pulled the oil drain plug, as water poured from the pan for like 15-20 sec. I let it drip purge for an hour or so with a space heater under there, and changed the oil and filter. Then hand cycled the engine to get fresh oil up top etc. FYI for you guys in cold wet climates, even garage stored! Thanks for sharing!! My plan is to pull the 460 monster and pop in a 351W stroker (408). Cheers from Motown/Dearborn.
Eric saved my meh Saturday night! Continue the Saturday night drops and keep up the good work!
All right. I got beer, snacks, candy, SOCO, and my 24-year-old son who is an apprentice millwright, and wait for it....I DO CARS.
From a fellow millwright, I'm always glad to hear when there is another apprentice joining the ranks!
And it is dads pleasure to watch him grow into a fine young man. Thank you for your kind words.@@alexandercortez4106
Big fan of the old school Ford SBF and BBF and of course the 4.9 in-line, but the 4.6L 2V V8 was probably the most long lived Ford motor ever.
Agreed the Yamaha 4.6 arguably the second best engine ever designed to the small block General Motors
I have to say, I am really enjoying the voice tone modifications for certain words and phrases. Adds some additional humor to the video besides all the pain and suffering you go through dismantling these engines.
Thank you Eric!👍
Had 2 of those trucks with that engine. Herer in NY valve covers, oil pans and egr tubes were eaten by rust.
Enjoying the light-hearted banter as well as the satisfying engine tear-down. 👌👌👍👍 Thanks for the video.
Thanks Eric this was a lot of fun. I got a bunch of laughs out of your actions, your craziness make things work and I learn a few little things. Great show.
Wiring harness removal ASMR!
Ya here in Buffalo I can't find any older Ford's because rust consumed them all years ago. It's quite amazing because in the early 2000s there were Explorer's and Escape's all over the roads. I don't ever see any from this era on the roads today 😢. The AWD escape my dad had was a blast drifting in the snow. No nanny's and they weren't top heavy like other SUV's. To this day, it's one of the most fun winter vehicles I ever drove.
When this was pulled out, it was a 10/11 yr old truck with 200k. Probably rusted out, just like current 10 yr old 200k mile trucks. My 1988 with that 5.8L was a gem. The engine drug the rotten skeleton that surrounded it for a few years through trade school.
I had a 1990 F150 with the 302 EFI. 2WD automatic. My dad bought it new and put a fair amount of highway miles on it. I drove it to school in 2003-2004. Was a reliable truck, but it leaked oil and didn’t have enough power to it.(as did most everything from that era.). The truck had about 205,000 miles or maybe a little more, by the time I stopped driving it. The truck was still solid with only slight surface rust when we sold it.
Your perseverance is remarkable… I learn a number of life hacks with some of the challenges you work through…thank you!
Had a 351 in my 91 Crown Vic P71
Once I replaced the 2VV with a 2bbl Holley.
Ran great !😊
Back in 1977, I knocked a 1200 VW engine apart with that much rust. The cylinders were badly pittled but one reassembled, it ran pretty well. It was not put on the road. It did serve as a placeholder so cars woudn't have to be pushed. It smoked a little! I used a 2x4 and a small sledge.
SLEEVES!! My friend raced air-cooled VW's burning alcohol and making big power
Not once have I ever watched a video on this channel and not laughed a lot harder than I probably should.
Keep ‘em coming, Eric!
I never thought you would get the crank out. Your patience is amazing.
holy moly! Those lower intakes are going for $350 on ebay! I have bought a few for $80-120. Make a custom upper for a turbo setup or whatever. Save that damaged harness, the only parts I use are the plugs for injectors and sensors.
I'm getting choked up. Had a E250, the 1995 flavor. The Trans died at over 300,000 miles. Got me 22 mpg on the highway and ran well till I parked it in my cousins tree row. And it wasn't my best ford, my 91 t250 beat it out. It had the 302.
i found this video at the perfect time for my morning coffee
Another great teardown video. Thanks for sharing 👍.
I think the line in the sand comment matches the cam gear flood line, must have spent some time stored on it's side outside?
I was down in Daytona last week and the exhaust pipe on my mototcycle came loose so I went to Harbor Freight to get a few tools and when I saw the a
Pretty colored sockets similar to the ones you use I just had to have them. I guess we are best friends now.
Valiant effort, Eric! You're right: sometimes you just have to walk away. All in all, another great video!
Those heads were made at the Cleveland Foundry plant, the markings cast into the head near the valves show that.
Should have used a ball hone to clean the cylinders before trying to push the pistons out. You did it before, and it worked great. Don't know why you didn't do it this time.
Your pry tool needs theme music. Like "Crystal Blue Persuasion"! 😁😁
Tommy James and the Shondells...😂
Must be Saturday. My favorite way to spend a evening
Absolute clinic in rusted bolt removal! We're not worthy!!
With rusty cylinders, take a wire wheel and clean what you can out of the cylinders and then spray WD-40 or something to let it soak some. We then use a cut of torsion bar and smack the top of the piston from the rod side and if it breaks the top off makes removing the rods even easier.
Evapo-rust is available at Harbor Freight. be best to clean off the scaly rust as much as you can before using it. Makes it clean quicker.
I use an air chisel....
Great video Eric. Other than the Windsor series and the 300 inline six, meh....the best you can say about Ford is that even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Great video as usual. I had been hoping you would tear down a 5.8 because I own a 1990 F-250 4x4 with this engine in it. It's my snow plow rig & I really learned a lot about this engine from you. Thanks Eric!
I KNEW it was coming, but the water pump throw STILL was funny.
Drove a1992 loaded Bronco with 5.8 it was badass.
Except for the fuel mileage? Mine too!! LOL
All 140 h.p.
@@davelowets back in 1992 that was a lot of power
The biggest issue with the transmissions only shows up on the fuel injected units. The rubber grommet holding the tv cable to the throttle linkage would deteriorate. Replace it with a brass grommet, problem prevented.
The fuel injected 351, as used in the trucks actually made less torque and used more fuel than the carbureted version used in the Panther cars through 91. Those did 390 lb/ft at 2200 rpm. I know because I had one in an 89 Grand Marquis with the Trailer Tow III Package. The car was rated for 6,000 pounds of towing capacity. The carbureted units used a different cam grind
This engine would be a great candidate for a proper upgrade. New main bearings and a Chrysler 400 crank. Over bore the cylinders. Edelbrock Performer intake, cam, heads, and square bore carburetor. 400cid Small Block Ford, tuned right, and economy car gas mileage with better than 500 lb/ft of torque. My brother got over 550,000 miles out of one of his 86 351s and 700,000 out of the other. My 89 was running perfectly at 200,000 when the car was wrecked.
It has been a long time between good dip stick tube battles. Old school Ford did not disappoint.
Wow that engine takes me back. I remember working on them back in the 90s when I was a young mechanic. The good old days. LOL Great video thanks.
Yeah here in the south we still have a ton of these still driving around but I’ve witnessed a few that are still driving but they are all at that point of needing rebuilt. Even the low mile ones need help.
That 351 was the most common base model engine Ford put in everything. Pretty tough Motor. These ECM’s fail a lot.
We had a 1990 F150 with the 302, here in western Kentucky, and it never rusted out, only surface rust. It had over 205,000 miles on it with original engine. Had the truck for about 15 years.
Here is a "mild suggestion" for FORD engineers...
Apply anti-seaze to ALL Bolts durring engine assembly!
they are all-aluminum now and maybe even worse in the wrong conditions as electrolysis will take over and cause rust anyways. That said..... I am trying Harveys pipe dope on some stuff in my engine like the oil pick up and the water pump bolts.
Honda has it right with properly plated bolts. That answers corrosion question!
Thanks for this! Geeking out to see the next gen 351w from mine. Currently driving a 90 f150 with this engine ❤
I broke two bolts on a Buick 455 water pump many years ago despite penetrating oil and tapping it with small ball peen. I slathered on a heavy coating of Indian Head gasket cement and bolted it back together with the new pump. Amazingly it held and didn’t leak.
You really have great techniques to untighten rusted bolts 🙂
I like 351windsor and 302s they make an engine shop like me a LOT of money. Simple to do, cheap parts, quick turnaround and every ford guy wants one! Of course a 351cleveland would be a real treat wink wink nudge nudge although they're hard af to find now, bad or good. Unfortunately the roller 351w have a casting flaw so they are no good for power. It's fun watching a tear down of something so familiar.
For rusty engines like that keep a large diameter rotary flap wheel or steel knotted wire brush, attach to a drill or die grinder and go at it a while until you see good metal. The bores are screwed anyway needs an overbore, but it does make getting the pistons out a LOT easier. Follow that up with a little heat on the pistons so the rings which are rusted against the bore breaks free, and then WD40 or Acetone+ATF or a good penetrating fluid. Done a lot of marine engines.
That engine came apart easy considering! Like working on most anything in the rust belt today! Now I watch the whole video and realize it was possible flood engine! Wow! Surprisingly that crank looks okay to machine! Great video!
I think you must have had a good teacher.You're very patient.My dad was the same way and that's how we taught us.
I'm very impressed that you got all the water pump bolts out. that new fandangled heating
coil is nice!
Great video Eric
Thank you for the great content! Motivating me to keep at YT!
If you put the time and effort in, it will pay off!
I think you used your entire can of *PENETRATOR* on this engine. Lots of fun to watch, and appreciated! Keep 'em comin'.
I have a fleet of 94-96 f-series with the 300cid/ 5-speed drive trains...! They're bulletproof...!!
Oil leaks, low on power, high on fuel consumption and a transmission that needed upgraded before it left the factory but other than that they were reliable because they didnt make enough power to hurt themselves. Im a Ford guy and still love them lol, i dont even try to be gentle with those corner intake or water pump bolts. I put a socket on them and hammer it a few times and if they come out fine and if they break thats fine too, i will get the broken pieced out when its apart. You can drill a hole in the timing cover above the bolt, heat it and spray some penetrator in it and it will make a big difference but mine go back together with new timing cover, intake and bolts anyway so i hammer them and whatever happens happens lol
After your first comment about giving up I through I would have stopped 30 minutes earlier. Thanks for tearing these down.
Pulling out as gentle as possible...Eric!