GORE SHAKEDRY 1985 Cycling Jacket Review - What's Great And Why I Regret Buying This One
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- Опубліковано 26 лип 2024
- C5 GORE-TEX SHAKEDRY™ 1985 INSULATED VIZ JACKET Review - Why It’s Great, But Why I regret Buying This One
In this video, I’m going to look at the Gore Shakedry Jacket. I’ll tell you what’s great about it……. And why I sort of regret choosing this particular one.
As I’ve said in previous videos, I cycle throughout winter, in some pretty harsh locations. I cycle the Dales, The Lakes, The Peaks….. So, I need some pretty good kit.
Product Link:
www.gorewear.com/en-uk/c5-gtx...
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Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
01:39 - A close look at the jacket
05:36 - Test the jacket
08:15 - What's not so good?
15:40 - Closing scene
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Thanks Jon for the head's up. On your advice, I purchased the unlined shakedry and am absolutely delighted by its performance even in the very worst weather conditions.
Hi Juan, Glad you found it useful. I too have purchased the unlined version now, much better to live with. The only complaint I have is the arms and cuffs are really tight..... which is only a small thing really.
Thanks for watching 👍
Jon
I cracked up when you said 'This' and pulled the shakedry into view lol.
Trouble with that video was my mic wasn't working properly, and the camera mic kicked in. Oh, and I ranted a bit 🤣
Thanks, Bud! That was a very helpful review. Based on your recommendation, I just purchased the C5 jacket without the insulated liner.
Hi Adam,
Glad I could help! The insulated one has its place, but I'd bet not many people are aware of its downsides. I'm regularly whipping my jacket on and off, so the non-insulated one is my usual go-to waterproof.
Keep us posted as to how you get on with it 👍
Thanks for watching.
Jon
Thanks for an informative video, and sharing your candid opinions.
Glad you found it useful Rich 👍. Thanks for watching
Having seen that you use this rain cape I thought I’d take a look at it too. Thanks for your insight here, glad I watched your channel.
Glad you found it useful, James 👍
I have the unlined version, best bit of kit ever bought. Completely waterproof and breathable
Hi Malcolm,
Yes, I have that one too. To be honest, the unlined is the one I use most of the time. The lined one still has it's place though. Have you heard that Gore is discontinuing the Shakedry fabric?
Thanks,
Jon
Nice video been looking at getting one of these jackets so thanks for review 😊
Hi Lake District cyclist,
No problem at all, glad it was of use. I've got both the lined and the unlined. To be honest, I use the unlined more...... but when it's really bad, I reach for the lined one...... but as I say, that variant comes with its issues!! Just checked your channel, loved your film on Wastwater. Walked there the other week, loved it. Hope to cycle there soon. Oh, and I've subscribed to your channel, obviously!
Thanks for watching.
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@@ribblevalleycyclist thank you that’s really kind of you. Might get a unlined one as would like to put in pocket 😊
Shake dry is a legendary game changer material… they are not making any more of it so buy them while you still can!
Agreed. It's a shame, because its wonderful fabric.
@@ribblevalleycyclist I bought several and stocked up!
Very helpful mate! thanks
Glad it helped!
Brilliant , fantastic , you also made me laugh , with the stink talk , love the video , love the review
Talk......More like a rant!!!! I did go on a bit about it 😂. Great jacket though. Glad you enjoyed it.
Excellent reviews
Thanks Keith, appreciate it. I was going to review the non-lined version too, but they’re discontinuing it.
@8:08 - Its called 1985 because - In 1985 , 3 engineers working in Germany for a fabric company called gore tex. They went cycling and realised that the industry at the time didnt have any waterproof, breathable, durable cycling jackets. so they created the first Gore Tex cycling jackets.
here is video link to the product guy from Gore talking about it :
ua-cam.com/video/zR8LJPot5EU/v-deo.html
Great, thanks for explaining, Sreejith
Hi @@BrianHealy666, I've yet to find a 100% waterproof jacket that is also as breathable as normal fabric. For me, the best solution is a high quality winter jacket combined with an unlined Shakedry. However........ GORE-TEX is discontinuing the Shakedry fabric, and is replacing it with GORE-TEX ePE..... Interesting times!!!
I agree the unlined jacket is more versatile you can always add another layer when its cold it gives you more options. Surely the jacket is designed to roll up into its own rear pocket, turn the pocket inside out then feed the jacket into it, I have several jackets that do that.
Hi Andrew, No, not a chance!
I have the unlined version too, that one gets used the most.
Very good review, what camera are you useing on the bike?
and what is your gloves and bibtight in rain ?
Hi Tommi,
Glad you liked the video.
Camera - I just use my iPhone. Quick and convenient…… the mic can fill up with water at times though!!
Tights - I use the Assos MILLE GT Winter Tights. No tight keeps me dry, but these are warm.
Gloves - I’m currently testing the SPATZ THRMOZ Deep Winter Gloves. Very impressive so far, not tried them in the rain yet. My next video will be about them.
Thanks for watching!
www.assos.com/gb/mille-gt-winter-bib-tights-9583.html
www.spatzwear.com/collections/gloves/products/spatz-thermoz-deep-winter-gloves-with-fold-out-wind-blocking-shell-thermozz
Jon
I have the normal jacket and it is sensational. Use it for running (Bowland and Pendle!) and cycling from 11c down and just adjust the baselayer. The cycling cap is just as good.
Just announced its being discontinued, so the replacement material (?) has much to live up to.
Hi Pigeon Poo,
Bowland and Pendle…… local to me then!
I have the unlined too now, I tend to use that one a lot more than the lined. Not tried the cap, will look into that.
Yes, I was reading about that. Most odd. Why would a manufacturer discontinue one of its most popular products? I’m not sure I’m buying this whole “Supply Challenges” line….. or am I just being a bit cynical? It’s also interesting to read that they’ll be keeping the remaining stock for their GoreWear arm, and that Castelli has invented their own version of the fabric.
Thanks for watching,
Jon
Hi Jon I have the single layer jacket and it work really well even when the temps go up until the point it gets taken off and stuffed in a back pocket. My rides often start early morning with a long downhill ( yes that means a lot of climbing later in the day to get home) so the jacket has proved invaluable keeping out the wind and rain. I think the problem with the insulated jacket is like having a layer of blotting paper between you and the outside world. Whiffy kit is not nice. Thanks for the vid and let me know if you are in the peak district
Hi Nigel, I have them both now, the unlined is the one I'm wearing the most. The lined one has it's place, but it needs to be really bad!! Uphill to get home..... not good!! Have you heard Gore is replacing Shakedry with a more 'Eco' product? I'll be doing a lot more rides in The Peaks from next year, heading out from near Macclesfield.
Jon
@@ribblevalleycyclist Sounds good. I live near Hayfield so me may well cross paths
Mine just goes in my rack bag but cant deny they are warm which prob limits the use but does allow you to use lighter clothing. Can find a review of the Rapha insulated on YT but the rider is in 3 deg Austrian rain and he swears by the jacket. Horses for courses I guess.
hi, I was reading that the Shakedry fabric had some resistance and therefore durability problems, and I read that there have been variations in the fabric on some manufacturers. Is this true or do all gore-tex Shakedry jackets have the exact same fabric?
Hi @Alsteoaa,
Yes, the Shakedry fabric is fragile. I have two Shakedry jackets, and both have small damage. One was caused by a thorn, the other was caught on the back of a chair. The fabric is very thin, and is therefore vulnerable.
Yes, the industry is now seeing variants of this fabric. My understanding is that Castelli will be releasing their own version of Shakedry that performs in the same way.
It’s also worth noting that GORE-TEX is discontinuing the Shakedry fabric for ‘Green’ reasons, and is replacing it with GORE-TEX ePE. We will have to wait and see if it performs as well.
Hope this info helps,
Thanks,
Jon
Shake dry technology is being phased out due to environmental regulation, so worth buying one whilst they last.
Good advice that, Paul 👍
Thank you, mate! Sadly, Gore has stopped manufacturing the Shakedry. With that said, would you be able to point me to the next best jacket that stacks up to the Gore-tex Shakedry? Cheers!
I think 1985 is code for “the stinky version”.
Good review. I’ve seen other reviews of this jacket and no one has mentioned the stink or it being unbreathable.
Hi dsonyay,
Haha..... made me chuckle to myself!!
I've got the unlined version too now, and it is a lot better, still a bit 'smelly' though! The answer is to ride with it undone until you have to do it up. I was thinking of doing a review on that one too, but as they're discontinuing it, I'm not sure if it's worth it.
All good. Actually.. I think the number has to do with the weight of the fabric (weave density?).
The lined version is for when you wake up and the rain is already coming down and you know it won’t stop til after the ride. It’s really for the worst conditions. I think you mentioned it too.. but yeah the unlined version is the one to pack and carry along.
I’ll be honest,, in south Louisiana we have soooo many no rain days it’s easy to skip the really bad days. Very easy to make up the miles later. Many times the rain is so short lived I just wait it out or delay start times. I can ride every day too, because I’m now retired. :)
My friend lives In Seattle Washington.. his rain days are nearly the same as yours. I’m very spoiled…. We have very mild winters, and nowhere near the rain.
Which size are you wearing and how tall are you and how much do you weigh? I don’t know if I like L or M more :-/. I am 177cm with 67kg. With a thick sweatshirt underneath (for winter riding) the M is to small under my arms.
Hi, I wear a large in both the lined and unlined versions. I’m 180cm tall, weigh 78kg. The arms are very skinny, so think of that if you have large muscles. Hope that helps, Jon
Hey! Great review! I just found a Gorewear race shakedry jacket without liner! May i ask you how the sizing compares to castelli? I have a castelli idro 3 in size S and its slightly too small..i wonder if i should go for a M in Gore..Thanks
The Gore stuff is the same size and fit as the Castelli stuff. I’m just shy of 6 foot and roughly 12 stone, and take a large in both brands of jacket
@@ribblevalleycyclist Thank you very much! You helped me decide and just ordered a size M
@cfau6290 No problem. Let me know how it goes 👍
What is a alternate cycling jacket without the liner?
Hi,
This is the unlined version of the Shakedry -
www.gorewear.com/us/en-us/c5-gore-tex-shakedry-1985-viz-jacket-100408
are the yellow parts the "shakedry" material? are they as waterproof as the rest of the jacket?
Hi Damon,
First off, sorry for the delay in getting back to you!
No, it doesn't seem to be. It has a different feel. I seem to recall reading somewhere that Gore has an issue giving the Shakedry fabric colour, so these patched were added for safety..... I could have that wrong though, so don't quote me! However, water has never got past them.
Thanks,
Jon
I hope you don't mind me asking but I could really use some advice. My husband is an eager cyclist and almost grabs every opportunity to ride his bike. However, he has struggled to find the right clothing for cycling in the winter and has now spent quite an amount on clothing that doesn't really work - he is, more or less, going crazy that he cannot ridehis bike in the winter (we live in Denmark and get lots of rain autumn and winter) I would really like to get him something which can help him ride his bike more during the winter and I would like to ask what you can recommend. Both jacket (which he can put in a small bag, like you showed, should it get too hot) and "trousers" (don't know the English word for that), and gloves - basically a good winter kit which does not cost a huge amount of money. Thank you so much in advance, kind regards Malene
Hi Malene,
Glad to help. First of all, when buying clothes for a cyclist, it’s important to remember that a lot of brands sizing is very small. I take a size 38 inch (96cm) jacket, but in most cycling jackets, I’m an extra large. So, worth remembering this.
Jacket - 100% waterproof jackets aren’t very breathable, so it’s best to have a heavy warm winter jacket, these are known as a ‘Softshell’ jacket and then a thin waterproof rain cape to go over the top of it. The Castelli Alpha RoS is a high quality warm softshell jacket. It will keep him warm, and is shower proof. However, it’s not 100% waterproof. If it rains for long periods, it’ll get through. I’ve done a video on the Castelli Alpha RoR, it’s here:
ua-cam.com/video/R-8w-EUslJw/v-deo.html
Adding a rain cape to go over the top of a winter jacket is a good idea. The ones that pack down to nothing are known as ‘Packable’ or ‘Stuffable’. The unlined version of the GORE Shakedry would be a good choice, as it’s 100% waterproof. They too come up small, and you also need to remember that you’re putting it over a thick jacket, so you really need to size up. There is nothing wrong with big and baggy in the winter, as it traps air, so keeps you warm. Also, the more waterproof, the less breathable, so baggy is better in this case. I discuss the unlined version of the GORE Shakedry in this winter kit video:
ua-cam.com/video/yDoIA-IdN78/v-deo.html
100% waterproof packable jackets like the Shakedry cost an absolute fortune though, so you may want to look at brands like Altura, or Endura. Not as waterproof, but still very good, and a lot cheaper!!
Trousers - The English word is tights!! What you need here is warm, not waterproof. Waterproof is hot and sweaty. A high quality fabric will expel the sweat, this is known a ‘Wicking’. My personal choice for winter tights is the Assos MILLE GT. I discuss the Assos tights in the above winter kit video. Another brand worth looking at is Lusso.
Gloves - Spatz is the brand I’d suggest you look at. I use the Spatz THRMOZ Deep Winter Gloves. They are warm and water resistant….. further testing shows they’re not waterproof though. I’ve done a separate video on them here: ua-cam.com/video/Hb5QR-5xCrc/v-deo.html And you’ll also see them in my winter kit video. Spatz also do a waterproof glove, but I’ve not tried it. You’ll find them on their website: www.spatzwear.com I also hear regular good reports on Assos winter gloves.
I hope this helps, Malene, and good luck with your kit search.
Jon
@@ribblevalleycyclist Thank you so very much for this xx
On the other hand, when Castelli proudly proclaims that their $250-300 RoS jackets have absolutely *no* lining at all, one wonders whether a thin sheet of Goretex is really such a good deal after all. 🤨
Hi Victor,
I think the Alpha RoS does a great job of keeping you warm, whilst at the same time trying to retain some of that ‘race-fit’ that so many riders chase. I do however feel that it falls short in the waterproof department. I feel that a 100% waterproof warm/lined jacket can sometimes be an unpleasant garment to wear. For me, the Alpha RoS combined with an unlined Shakedry is the perfect combination for unpredictable, changing conditions.
Thanks for watching.
Jon
Thanks jon, I Sweat like a pig. Breathability is essential for me. Won't be buying this jacket. Was actually looking for a running jacket, but able to use it for a bit cycling is a bonus.
What a blast from the past. Took a few seconds...then i realized. Jon!
Wow..... Angelo...... Hello mate. How are you keeping?
@@ribblevalleycyclist I'm well Jon. Thank you. I'm not surprised you're back into cycling. I remember years ago. Outside Youngs, someone had a BMX...I never forgot the way you made it dance. Nice to see you and hear your voice. It's your unique style. The way pitch things. Good times.x
@@angeloamatruda8397 Dance.... Not sure I was that good!! Young's, good times, mostly. With you, Cookie, G & Skips. I often think back to those days. It's also frustrating to see how hard it is nowadays to find someone with your talent. A few times I've been frustrated when a bit of equipment has failed, and I replace a £100 board, because of a faulty £1 resistor. You go to the electronics shop, and they look at you as if you're mad when you ask if they can fix it. I always say "Where is Ang when you need him?"
It seems they used some crappy material for the lining.
I bought a few of cheap synthetic fabric t-shirts from sports direct and wiggle if I remember correctly for running. They all smell of sweat after just one run and that's with me having a shower the night before. I also have a Marino wool top with long sleeves and that one smells as fresh after a 5km run as before (so I know the problem isn't my sweat). It's the fabric.
They should have used Marino wool for the lining of that jacket.
I also bought a £60 Asics quick dry long sleeve top which I'll test this winter. I doubt it will perform as well as the Marino top.
Hi NineLaivz,
I don't think Gorewear specifies what they used in the lining...... suspect it's not the most natural of fibres though!!
I find Merino base layers work well at keeping you warm, but they too can make you unnaturally sweaty, though. Not sure whats going on there.
Thanks,
Jon.
What about the c7 model? Any differences / upgrades?
Hi Franca, I’ve never tried the C7 model. My understanding is that it’s the stretchy version of the standard Shakedry fabric. It’s now discontinued. If you can find one, grab it, because one of the downsides to the standard version is that the fabric has no give.
Hope that helps, and thanks for watching.
Jon
1. I guess it's Oro jacket from 7mesh. Which is made of shakedry.
2. "super breathable" or hardshell is not as breathable as ordinary shoftshell fabric, definetely.
3. Nevertheless, shakedry has strength for pouring raining climate.
Have you gotten to ride in the non-liner version of this jacket?
Hi George, Yes, I have the non-lined version too. It doesn’t suffer with the same issues.
Thanks
Jon
@@ribblevalleycyclist Thank you for prompt response! I came on to your channel searching for a review of this jacket because David Arthur just did a video saying Gore was discontinuing the production of them. I live in SoCal it doesn't rain much here if ever, hence the draught we continue to suffer. However, we have high mountains here my local ones are 6,100 feet and a little drive away are 10,000 ft. The weather is unpredicatable and when can easily be below freezing at the summits during our winters down to 4,000 ft
I need a jacket that is breathable, packable and occassionaly waterproof I'm done racing now so I don't ride in the rain anymore but I need that ONE piece of technical gear to cover all situations. I think this jacket and Merino wool is the perfect combination
Hi George,
Yes, I was reading about that. Most odd. Why would a manufacturer discontinue one of its most popular products? I’m not sure I’m buying this whole “Supply Challenges” line….. or am I just being a bit cynical? It’s also interesting to read that they’ll be keeping the remaining stock for their GoreWear arm, and that Castelli has invented their own version of the fabric. It is good however to hear that an alternative is on it’s way….. I wonder how good it will be.
Anyway, back to your question. The unlined Shakedry would be an ideal jacket to keep you dry whilst still being packable. I’ll be honest, the fabric is not that breathable. If I’m riding hard and it’s done all the way up, the sweat doesn’t escape. However, the unlined version doesn’t keep you too warm, and when undone a little, it flaps around in the wind, all of this does help to keep it dryer inside when compared to the lined version.
Thanks for watching,
Jon
@@ribblevalleycyclist
Jon, thanks for your comments about the breathability of the unlined Shakedry jacket. That kind of confirms my suspicions. If it is raining and 100% humidity, the air is saturated and there's nowhere for the sweat to go. Someone would be getting sweaty even without the jacket on. When used as a windbreaker, a GoreTex jacket (especially Shakedry) will be more breathable than a basic coated nylon jacket, but in the rain, the breathability of any jacket is limited.
@@ribblevalleycyclist nice review. I am thinking of getting one too. I think they’re discontinuing it due to the negative effect of its production on the environment *I think*
what size did you pick up ?
Hi Louui ,
I went for an EU Large (US L, Asia XL). To put that into perspective, I’m a Large in Castelli, wear a size 38 jacket, am 180cm tall and weigh in at roughly 78kg. Hope that helps.
Thanks for watching.
Jon
I cant decide for my size. L or XL.
I am 184 cm, 85kg.
Anybody has the same measures?
I’m 180cm and weigh 78Kg. I’m wearing a large. The arms are thin…. I have thin arms, but it can be tight…. If you have muscular arms, be careful.
I've got more Castelli and Sportful gear than I can shake a stick at, but one jacket I won't buy is Shakedry! Can't say I've ever felt the need for one, whilst wearing Gabba, Perfetto and Alpha. I've got 2 shells, a very unique Castelli Gore Windstopper and an Endura Xtract. In fact the Endura is fantastic, it really takes a pounding from the rain!
The DWR coating on the Gabba/Perfetto and Fiandre jackets is so good, I rarely feel the need for a Shakedry! For anybody wishing to own one, I suggest you buy one pretty soon as production is ceasing...✌️
Gore Infinium 205, 203 and 150 are king!
Hi GravelTramp,
You make some good points.
I find my DWR Castelli kit to be pretty good in damp and light shower conditions, but if I get caught out in a heavy downpour, or I’m riding in the rain for hours on end, then they fail me. Also, DWR needs to be regularly heat treated in order to ‘resuscitate’ its affectiveness. A ShakeDry never needs reviving, and will never let the water through.
However, saying that, the ShakeDry has its downsides too. It’s really a summer ‘Race’ cape, and I struggle to get it over something like an Alpha RoS. Also, I don’t care what the blurb claims, it’s not breathable, I have two variants, and neither breath.
In the winter, I wear a RoS and pack an old baggy cape. In the spring, it’s a Gabba and the Shakedry.
Yes, it’ll be interesting to see how the Gore's new ePE membrane performs in comparison.
Thanks for watching.
It Does breath better than anything else, but if you overdress yeah you will sweat a lot anyway.
Shakedry is so effective at cutting the wind/water that you don't need much underneath most of the time (for fall, only a good baselayer).
I'm talking about the non liner version of course.
I have the original unlined 1985 which packs in to its own pocket in the back and it’s tiny … think you bought the wrong one pal , from one Ribble valley cyclist to another
Oh, I completely agree with you John 😂. I now have both, so I’ve got all bases covered. To be honest though, I can’t remember when I used the lined one last…… come to think about it, I don’t know where it is!!
I almost bought this jacket but I cancelled my order. It’s unpractical to wash it every single time because it’s smell. That’s instant pass for me.
I also have the unlined one too now, and it’s a lot better. Don’t have to wash anywhere near as often. Hope that helps 👍
Thanks,
Jon
I appreciate your honesty. This how reviews should be made. @@ribblevalleycyclist
Thank you not buying one now ! Only without lining older model ! All new is crap !
Gore no longer making shake dry😢
Yes Richard, that is a shame. However, it'll be interesting to see what there new ePE is like.