Excellent maiden!! You can never be perfect on a maiden but you adapted in a way that few people do when the landing settings were weird. Good job and you just got a new sub!!
Yes. Definitely needs throttle when you come in. On my maiden, I came in a shorter approach with less of my runaway and had a very nice glide slope with little power and she suddenly dropped. Bent the front gear but was able to get it straighted out. 2nd flight, came in with power and had no problems. Side note, Motion's version of SAFE is auto levelling only when you're off the stick (per Motion). There's no bank angle limits like Horizon and you can do loops and rolls in Motion's "SAFE" mode. (I can confirm that, lol). They call it panic mode which is accurate.
Weird .. I need to try safe again. On that maiden flight, I had it in SAFE mode by accident and I definitely felt it limit my angles. I switched it to off after half a lap. My issue was the down trim in the elevator compensation for the flaps. I removed the down trim when flaps are deployed and it was much better. Still need a bit of power but it wasn't diving down when I reduced throttle like it did in the maiden video.
that is very interesting to know, they never say that at all. Can you explain this a bit more to me and this diff between HH safe and MotionRc safe mode?
Not in my case. I assume they put that in the instructions for a reason but the down elevator compensation really messed up that maiden. I now run with no flap compensation and it's very controllable
I had same issue with flaps and wing sweep. What i did is find the sweet spot on my remote when the flaps are in position 1 so that the swing sweep disables. On my Futaba that was +45 on AFR of flaps. I then adjusted the Right max to flaps up (+35) and left max to flaps full down (also +35). All done in AFR setting (dual rates). Also it seems you where a bit tail heavy. I am in love too. I flew 3 times. Cant wait for next weekend
Awesome, looking currently at the XFly-Model T-7A Red Hawk 80mm, similar to a T-38. But I love the wing sweep on this beautiful Tomcat. In full sweep, have you clocked its top speed?
Lol! It's a Frsky Tandem XE. It's a tray radio version of Frsky's Tandem series of radios. The more popular one is the Frsky X20s. Same features but a more traditional form factor. Excellent radio especially bang for buck.
Thanks Andy! Second flight was much better. The zeroed the flap to elev compensation and it flew great... Tipped on landing but I recovered before touchdown so it went fine... That video is next....
Nice looking edf and flying Jose, seeing your using a Frsky transmitter I just pick up the X20S whole new learning curve from a spektrum started watching your videos on ethos files good video's 😊👍👍👍
Heads up. The new firmware is a little different... They adjusted a few things from my videos. If you are running the latest firmware 1.5 + it is similar but with much more power. I'll start a new series on the updates soon
ok I try the 1.5 and the timer counter didn't work and absolute throttle was not in the timer set up had to back to the previous version can I email you thru your site have tons of questions could not find in forums @@all_rc
It's an awesome radio. Frsky Tandem XE. Same features and number of channels as the Frsky Tandem X20 but in a tray form factor. Super powerful radio with bulletproof radio signal. Not one radio hit when using Frsky Tandem Receivers... Transmits on 2.4ghz and 915mhz at the same time on to one receiver. Super reliable, easy and powerful programming and very affordable.
Yeah... Too long. I was down to 8% battery! Not sure if I had another go around. I was using a 5200mah Zee battery. I plan on dropping down to around 4000mah for weight later after it's tuned. For now, it's nice to have the extra flight time when testing
Flies awesome now... Just needed get it tuned. That was maiden. I have the cg a little back, no flap to elevator compensation, more expo on the elevator etc. once it's dialed in, it's really good flying.
Gyros help stabilize the plane. They have a couple of modes. Auto level will level the wings and attitude when you let go of the sticks. It will also limit angles. Stabilize mode will correct unintentional movements and smooth out the flight... Wind correction. I don't maiden with the gyro on just in case it isn't calibrated right and I don't fly in auto level mode besides testing it.
I used a 5200mah Zee pack. Once I get everything tuned, I'll probably run a 4000 to keep weight down. I was thankful I ran a 5200 with all my go arounds!
Don't think so. I think it was me. I do believe that the elevator throw might be a bit much on landing. Next flight will be with a bit more expo on elevator.
It ain't cheap. But it is quality. What other plane with twin edfs, full retracts, flaps, tuned built in gyro etc and not to mention wing sweep with two large high torque servos can you get for cheaper? Everything is getting expensive. If they put this out 4 years ago it would probably have sold for 350 to 400. But it's the world we live in right now.
Hey Jose Im Joe just found your channel and gave you a like and sub. when I put a 2sec flap open and close on mine it interfered with the wing swip when I opened and closed them so I just set it to normal. Do you have any issue with that?
Yep, just put it on a slider. It's essentially just pushrods attached to high torque servos. The difficult part was adjusting the servos so arms were as equal as possible and then adjusting the pushrods for full travel in both directions. But you'll need to do that regardless of using a switch or slider. I also adjusted the servo end points for more than 100%. Just adjusted until I had full travel.
Very Kuwell, ...Hey, have you checked the Load on those Servos in the Mid-Sweep positions... Hate to see a huge Draw on them while Holding their position// could give you some troubles !! I've got a similar situation going on with the Xfly B-1B project. Great Maiden, thanks for posting. Cheers !!
I haven't checked load. The interesting thing is there is no lock on the wings out or full sweep positions either. If the plane is unplugged, I can freely move the wings. It's not like a retract that locks when down.... I assume they sized the servo correctly... (Hopefully!)
I generally don't but when the manual has an addendum glued onto the page with those specs on it, it looks like they added it after some serious testing and after the manual was published.
I don't know where you got your info or if you are just blatantly lying and making stuff up ... I still have the plane in one piece. If you look at my previous videos. You'll see I usually do one or two videos of planes. If I have a meaningful update I may do more. So whatever you are trying to prove you got your info wrong.
That second landing was pure redemption! Nice job!
Excellent landing, nice work.
absolutely gorgeous plane dude, really nice flying 👌 😀 👍👍
Nice job man maidens can be stressful but it came down in one piece
Ahh the old Apollo 11 field in Van Nuys. I've done quite a few flights with my Comp-ARFs there back in 2005-2010.
It flies so sweet flown my a few times. That's the best livery of all time in my opinion.
Excellent maiden!! You can never be perfect on a maiden but you adapted in a way that few people do when the landing settings were weird. Good job and you just got a new sub!!
Very nice Jose! Good to see you out again.
Dude nice!! Can’t wait to fly mine!!
Looking forward to seeing this in person at the field
Good job Jose😊
Great maiden!
Nice job on a slightly hair maiden!
Nice and exciting maiden.
amazing ... like real
There's your cardio for the week lol😂
You ain't kidding
Yes. Definitely needs throttle when you come in. On my maiden, I came in a shorter approach with less of my runaway and had a very nice glide slope with little power and she suddenly dropped. Bent the front gear but was able to get it straighted out. 2nd flight, came in with power and had no problems.
Side note, Motion's version of SAFE is auto levelling only when you're off the stick (per Motion). There's no bank angle limits like Horizon and you can do loops and rolls in Motion's "SAFE" mode. (I can confirm that, lol). They call it panic mode which is accurate.
Weird .. I need to try safe again. On that maiden flight, I had it in SAFE mode by accident and I definitely felt it limit my angles. I switched it to off after half a lap.
My issue was the down trim in the elevator compensation for the flaps. I removed the down trim when flaps are deployed and it was much better. Still need a bit of power but it wasn't diving down when I reduced throttle like it did in the maiden video.
that is very interesting to know, they never say that at all. Can you explain this a bit more to me and this diff between HH safe and MotionRc safe mode?
So you didn’t need any compensation for the flaps?
Not in my case. I assume they put that in the instructions for a reason but the down elevator compensation really messed up that maiden. I now run with no flap compensation and it's very controllable
@@all_rc thank you sir 🫡🤝
I use a mode to trim my flaps than trying to use a flap to elevator mix.
Lol, I had a switch trim for the flap compensation but I was so panicked and rushed, I forgot about it on that flight!
I had same issue with flaps and wing sweep. What i did is find the sweet spot on my remote when the flaps are in position 1 so that the swing sweep disables. On my Futaba that was +45 on AFR of flaps. I then adjusted the Right max to flaps up (+35) and left max to flaps full down (also +35). All done in AFR setting (dual rates).
Also it seems you where a bit tail heavy.
I am in love too. I flew 3 times. Cant wait for next weekend
Yeah, I increased the flaps much more than what book recommended and the flaps function great. And wing sweep lock out now works
I also, I wasn't tail heavy. I was over controlling the elevator. A bit more expo and it was better.
Be careful. I've seen two crashes due to wing sweep failure !!
Nice save.
Awesome, looking currently at the XFly-Model T-7A Red Hawk 80mm, similar to a T-38. But I love the wing sweep on this beautiful Tomcat. In full sweep, have you clocked its top speed?
Hi, what is that spaceship of a transmitter you have? 😮
Lol! It's a Frsky Tandem XE. It's a tray radio version of Frsky's Tandem series of radios. The more popular one is the Frsky X20s. Same features but a more traditional form factor. Excellent radio especially bang for buck.
Nice maiden cowboy 🤠 you will get her dialed 👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks Andy! Second flight was much better. The zeroed the flap to elev compensation and it flew great... Tipped on landing but I recovered before touchdown so it went fine... That video is next....
@@Amahoser sweet 👍🏻👍🏻
That wingloading though 😬, just the same great maiden! Love that jet but I think my field doesnt have a long enough a runway for landing.
Take off on the street then land in the grass as usual. 😬
@@all_rc our grass is quite punishing 😁, regards A.F.
Lots of problems wlth this jet need a v2 soon
Woodly Park in the house!
Nice looking edf and flying Jose, seeing your using a Frsky transmitter I just pick up the X20S whole new learning curve from a spektrum started watching your videos on ethos files good video's 😊👍👍👍
Once you understand it, it's so much easier to program than spektrum... You'll love it!
awesome thanks@@all_rc
Heads up. The new firmware is a little different... They adjusted a few things from my videos. If you are running the latest firmware 1.5 + it is similar but with much more power. I'll start a new series on the updates soon
ok I try the 1.5 and the timer counter didn't work and absolute throttle was not in the timer set up had to back to the previous version can I email you thru your site have tons of questions could not find in forums @@all_rc
It's there but I'm a different spot. From the timer widget, go to start condition. Then system event. Then throttle active
What radio is that? It looks like a MONSTER!
It's an awesome radio. Frsky Tandem XE. Same features and number of channels as the Frsky Tandem X20 but in a tray form factor. Super powerful radio with bulletproof radio signal. Not one radio hit when using Frsky Tandem Receivers... Transmits on 2.4ghz and 915mhz at the same time on to one receiver. Super reliable, easy and powerful programming and very affordable.
@@all_rc Sweet. I thought it was a Jeti. It's a good looking radio. Just a little pricier than my Radiomaster TX-16S, though. 🤣🤣
I used a TX16S for a while. Good radio.
Nice maiden! What size battery did you use? Looks like over 4 minutes of flight.
Yeah... Too long. I was down to 8% battery! Not sure if I had another go around. I was using a 5200mah Zee battery. I plan on dropping down to around 4000mah for weight later after it's tuned. For now, it's nice to have the extra flight time when testing
What radio you are using?
Frsky Tandem XE.
nasty flying jet,,looks good though
Flies awesome now... Just needed get it tuned. That was maiden. I have the cg a little back, no flap to elevator compensation, more expo on the elevator etc. once it's dialed in, it's really good flying.
What does it mean when you said "Gyro on or Gyro off?" What is a Gyro and what does it do?!?
Gyros help stabilize the plane. They have a couple of modes. Auto level will level the wings and attitude when you let go of the sticks. It will also limit angles. Stabilize mode will correct unintentional movements and smooth out the flight... Wind correction. I don't maiden with the gyro on just in case it isn't calibrated right and I don't fly in auto level mode besides testing it.
Nice job!! What size pack did you fly with? Excited to maiden mine
I used a 5200mah Zee pack. Once I get everything tuned, I'll probably run a 4000 to keep weight down. I was thankful I ran a 5200 with all my go arounds!
It looks like your CG is off. The plane is porpoising
Don't think so. I think it was me. I do believe that the elevator throw might be a bit much on landing. Next flight will be with a bit more expo on elevator.
Nice Jet ...WAY OVERPRICED!
It ain't cheap. But it is quality. What other plane with twin edfs, full retracts, flaps, tuned built in gyro etc and not to mention wing sweep with two large high torque servos can you get for cheaper? Everything is getting expensive. If they put this out 4 years ago it would probably have sold for 350 to 400. But it's the world we live in right now.
Nice landing!
Hey Jose Im Joe just found your channel and gave you a like and sub. when I put a 2sec flap open and close on mine it interfered with the wing swip when I opened and closed them so I just set it to normal. Do you have any issue with that?
I have mine on a slider and not a switch. But with a switch, the servo should be slow enough to not require any slow down.
Variable Sweep is a very nice touch !! How did you manage to get that to work ?? Your Wing Sweep comand is on a Slider ? Thx
Yep, just put it on a slider. It's essentially just pushrods attached to high torque servos. The difficult part was adjusting the servos so arms were as equal as possible and then adjusting the pushrods for full travel in both directions. But you'll need to do that regardless of using a switch or slider. I also adjusted the servo end points for more than 100%. Just adjusted until I had full travel.
Very Kuwell, ...Hey, have you checked the Load on those Servos in the Mid-Sweep positions... Hate to see a huge Draw on them while Holding their position// could give you some troubles !! I've got a similar situation going on with the Xfly B-1B project. Great Maiden, thanks for posting. Cheers !!
I haven't checked load. The interesting thing is there is no lock on the wings out or full sweep positions either. If the plane is unplugged, I can freely move the wings. It's not like a retract that locks when down.... I assume they sized the servo correctly... (Hopefully!)
Never mix elevator to flap on a maiden... Always after accordingly.
I generally don't but when the manual has an addendum glued onto the page with those specs on it, it looks like they added it after some serious testing and after the manual was published.
Landing was kind of white knucle. I'm clad you knew what you were doing.
Especially since I knew battery was near empty. Checked and I only had 8 percent remaining
How can I buy one?
Check out motionrc.com
Yes a bunch of problems. This plane was crashed total loss that’s why it hasn’t been featured again. It’s an advanced plane so the crash was eminent
I don't know where you got your info or if you are just blatantly lying and making stuff up ... I still have the plane in one piece. If you look at my previous videos. You'll see I usually do one or two videos of planes. If I have a meaningful update I may do more. So whatever you are trying to prove you got your info wrong.