They Say It's Defective, But It's NOT - Freewing F-14 64mm Follow-up Review
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- Опубліковано 29 лис 2024
- The F-14 is NOT defective. If it was, ours wouldn't fly this good. It's not shilling to objectively state the truth - and sometimes people don't want to hear that they don't have the skillset required to fly a certain class of airplane. But anyone can learn how to fly better if they keep practicing. If you give up and blame the plane, you'll never improve.
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That was amazing Jon! Great work!!!
Thanks Brian!
@BrianPhillipsRC
Brian you should have more freewing on your chanel
@@SamuelVega-r4u psssttt... the problem is they aren't free! 😬
Jon we did two videos with Dustin trying to help people with the same thing. It isn't the plane. When it come to the guys that make assumptions about people they really don't know...how can I put this? Hmm...oh yeah I know...F them! You can't fix stupid, but you can waste a bunch of time trying, lol. Great vid!
Or you can do the third option which is making an educational video that helps illustrate exactly why they're wrong! 😁
@TwoBrosRC Yes, for the pilots humble enough to improve. The real jerks that call you a shill because you won't blame the plane usually are not. Lol.
Well I initially said that Freewing owed everyone an apology and a refund on this jet. I was completely wrong, I just was not ready for this jet and how to land it properly. Had I waited until I had more edf skill and perhaps paid more attention to John here at 2 brother RC my F-14 may not be in our local landfill right now. I have every plan to repurchase this jet and begin again. Thank you 2 Brother RC for taking the time to put these videos together.
As a fellow UA-cam plane reviewer , you will agree with me that people have no idea how much money, time, and effort we put into maintaining these rc channels and still work full time to support our private lives. They may believe we are making money like crazy each month. .....I just want to break even just one time before I die....lol Despite this, if one pilot new or old gets help from our videos and starts to enjoy the hobby more then all that time , money and effort is more than worth it!!!
Also this is for you John, I know you love of modding and tweaking but is there any edf straight from the factory that is perfect just the way it is in your opinion? Also can the F-14 be flown and enjoyed in basic flying style with it's stock setup with no modifications aside from say afterburners?
Hey man!
Saying FW needs to apologize is much different than saying our channel owes the community an apology lol - no worries there from us.
Definitely hope to see you flying the F-14 again. Once you've got the technique mastered, the jet isn't hard to land. Not every landing will be perfect, but you'll avoid landing on the wings with practice, which will help a ton.
As far as what's perfect from the factory? Not a whole lot, really. The FMS Avanti with the TV upgrade is pretty close though. Can you enjoy the F-14 in a more basic setup? Sure. Just keep in mind how it's gotta be flown to the ground, and avoid accelerated stalls in the air.
@@TwoBrosRC Oh, I hope I did not originally say your channel needs to apologize because it does not! no in fact FW needs to come to you on how to create their planes! Thanks for your time in answering me and thank you for what you do!!
@fatguy. I fly mine as is OOB with no issues. (I know...heresy Jon) but it can be done. You just need to apply that flying skill and technique. Use throttle, maintain airspeed, watch the AoA. I've had some bad landings BUT that was me not paying attention or being focused.
This plane requires your full attention when flying AND commensurate skills. However, it is not defective.
@jeffbrundt7740 i didn't believe the plane is defective now,I did at first but I was wrong and simply did not have the edf skills at the time when it first was released. I will get the plane again.
I'm convinced. Now I want one. And I won't hide it from my wife.
Flying it with wings half swept I’ve found is the most ideal airframe. Flies beautifully and can fly and land slow while still doing all the maneuvers and more
Landing too
Not a bad idea there. You get a half-delta doing that. Not quite a full delta, not quite as prone to stalling either.
And people questioning if you’re a shill is perfectly normal given your circumstances and “possible benefits.” A lot of UA-camrs are salesman. Awesome review man!
We're one of the most transparent channels on YT with regard to what generates money and what doesn't, and our focus has generally been on making videos that are entertaining so we earn most of our money from ad revenue and don't feel big pressure to push products that people may not want.
@@TwoBrosRC I agree with you man. The RC community is plagued with haters and sales guys that aren't honest about performance. You keep it real imo
@@jsean13 with people like Nate Saylor on YT, it makes it much harder for channels like this one! I once thought that every channel was like that. I'm happy I was wrong, but hate others still get that idea from that terrible channel!
@@jamesonclark5854 ehhh I won't throw stones man.. not my place. I just stop watching certain channels. IMO eflite has dropped off and FMS is a little stagnant. I'm hoping Freewing/MRC continue to kill it and I hope Flyfans and Xfly step up their game. Xfly quality is really good! Very impressed with their servos and power systems.. but yeah sales breath gets old, and the difficult thing is, the people doing it act like we can't see it...
Very well explained. My initial problem with this one was landing with too much power and thus having to land twice due to bouncing. LOL I watched a few other videos that scared me when it first came out. Took Jon’s advice from the initial review and installed low bounce wheels and now it’s not a problem.
Happy to help, man!
10:33 my boy said “SPLITTING THE THROTTLEs, COMING AROUND.”
I never blame the plane. I know it's always my fault. Regardless of its electronic for a failure of the plane, I should have inspected it better. Every crash I have ever had has been my fault.
Hi Roy, It may not be your fault motion assembly has issues. I’ve had the F-14 for two flights. On its maiden it had an awkward left yaw. I landed safely and rechecked all the surfaces. On the second flight after takeoff and making a left procedure turn the right esc shut off cause a violent spiral in to the open ocean total loss. Flying 44yrs advance pattern, and nitro ducted fan from its inception. Motion RC customer service not acceptable.💔
@BOOBOOO96 i don't have any swept wing aircraft yet. I am just saying that I never had a plane. That wasn't my fault that I crashed. I have only been flying for 2 years, but I have crammed a lot of flying into that short time frame.
Man you just gave me flashbacks to the top gun game and the nightmare it was to land on the carrier!!!!!!
I never did it on that game lol
It’s easy to see the people that have experience and the people with out. Once you graduate from edf to turbine and you are landing without power lol good luck. This f14 is a great trainer and teaches you what you need to know to gain more experience.
Keep doing what you’re doing two brothers RC and don’t stop sending it!!!
Love this video jon.you nailed it .took me couple flights to tame my f-14 64mm.i did get sum useful tips from this video.keep up the good work sir.
@@MegaJohnperry 100%agreed. But the gyro wasn’t possible to access when it came out. The device needed wasn’t even available yet. That wasn’t his fault but the organization selling them that he was representing. So it sucks because I believe it set folks off to a rougher start than need be.
It's always either the plane or the radio gear being used. It's never the pilot. 🤣 I've been in this hobby almost 50 years and the story never changes. Thanks for your hard work creating all these videos for all of us!
I recognize this! When I got into the hobby as a kid, every crash of “some people” were ALWAYS blamed on radio interference
The problem was in the setup, Wes from MotionRC addressed this perfectly. The gyro needs to be checked before flown. I believe people flew it without checking. The assembly video from motion addressed this. I watched this plane randomly lawn dart itself from level flight, it 100% was the gyro.
Thank you for your insights on this jet. You are correct…it takes a lot of practice to land it “nicely”. I love this jet so much that I’ve gone through 5 of the 80mm versions until I got the landings right. Believe me, I always blame myself haha, but I told myself I will not give up until I can land this thing. Expensive? Yes, but I have alot of parts, experience and I’m a much better pilot now.
Thanks again for your time, efforts and opinion to fly like you do, so “we don’t have to”. 😉
Happy to help, thanks for the feedback!
Lol. First 15 seconds was exactly what I was thinking in my mind. Hahaha. Way to clear the air early on in the video.
That's us, man. Total shills. 🙄
No offense intended. You guys are the best of the best of aviation channels, and you are genuinely good people. But the lack of attention to HSD, X-Fly, Banana Hobby, Horizon compared to the level of love you have for Motion and Freewing has one wondering from time to time what the deal is.
HSD doesn't send jets out, and our finances don't allow for purchasing multi-thousand model aircraft just for a video that might pull $20 in ad revenue. Kind of a losing proposition for us. We've featured XFly before and they weren't happy about it: ua-cam.com/video/q6kLtf_qLJs/v-deo.html
Banana was also not happy about that video and left a 10 paragraph hatemail response in the comments. We do feature a variety of aircraft, it just happens that FMS, Freewing, and Horizon sell the bulk of affordable aircraft that you can generally rely on for good service.
We shy away from brands that make people come into our comment section and complain about support. Jon already works full time as a support lead and community manager. Doing it in an unpaid capacity for model aviation companies is not exactly enticing.
@@TwoBrosRC That explains a lot. Good explanation. Shame on X-fly for doing that. I saw the Banana Hobby rant. You two went at it and it's a shame. They should recognize the influence of your channel more.
That landing at the 3:48 mark on the game was on the bow, wrong end of the carrier!
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The most polite “skill issue” ever said 😂
😂 two shillers RC part had me LOLing. Great video John. F-14 is a great model it definitely just takes more skill than other aircraft. That being said when you get it right it’s magic 🫡
This was a banger video. Well done as always! I don’t even have this jet and you have me watching the whole thing! 😅 👏🏻
Thanks dude! It gets frustrating seeing people miss out on a great experience because some downers on a forum insist that it's flawed.
Apologize? Really? 😂 I mean,,,, look how that thing is landing. Very well done jon. The camera work is better than those landings 😁
What you said from 1:20 to 2:00 is 100% true. I have tried to explain this to a few people but nobody listens. "Trainer planes are small for a reason!! They are easier to fly!!". No. Small trainer planes are designed around flying slow. A plane scaled down to the size of a typical trainer plane, usually results in bad handling. I have some smaller, fast planes that are designed for 1 thing, to fly fast. Little air displacement and very narrow. Everyone thinks they are easy to fly. They are not. Landing them is a pain in the ass because when you get to a certain speed, the wings just stall. Landing is a commitment, not a leisurely float to the ground. I have a 90" spinks acromaster with a super tigre s3000 engine. That beast floats in the air and is so easy to fly. Lots of air under it, lots of control with very minimal input and doesn't stall because... there is so much air under it. Landing it is intimidating because of the size of it. But it flies like a scaled bi-plane.
I've had my Tomcat out twice. It's on the stock gyro. The first time (3 flights) wasn't enjoyable and it didn't feel locked in at all. I experienced the wing drop on my last landing that day. I took it back out a few weeks ago (still stock) and it was like a different jet. It was well behaved, predictable, and fun as hell. I can't wait to take it back out. I do have my ailerons reflexed about 3mm.
Try bypassing the stock gyro and use the setup we're demoing here. You'll see a marked improvement in overall capabilities.
Jon, very nice video and explanation of flight dynamics on final and touchdown. Your aircraft is not as shipped. However, I agree with you on all of your handling points regarding AOA, sweep, etc. I plan to give the gyro bypass a shot. Read on for my experience.
Out of the box, this airplane was very problematic for me. Although I did not crash it to pieces, the airframe did some really bizarre things on the first flight. The throttle cut on me for about 4 seconds during my 3/4 throttle maiden. It recovered and I managed to land it in one piece.
I did some bench evaluation testing of the stock flight controller. My experience using the stock flight controller and servos, (servos probably aren't relevant to this point, btw) was that the stock flight controller behavior *was not deterministic*. It depended on whether the wing was swept back or forward before powering up the plane. Unless the plane was powered up with the wings already swept, and the tx set to wings swept, weird things happened in flight. I mean *really* weird things, like throttle cutouts, only one aileron surface responding to roll perturbations of the airframe, etc.
My advice to the viewers/readers on this one would be caveat emptor, and try Jon's mods (at least the gyro bypass using the recommended receiver), before flying. Again, out of the box, this plane is kind of a turd.
In fairness, we did recommend bypassing the stock gyro immediately in the setup guide of the first F-14 vid. The stock gyro can never compare to a fully thought out AS3X experience!
Seeing the wings swept landing killed me 😂😂😂
We have a beater one at our field that we’ve tinkered with, and man it can do some crazy flat spins… sketchy and erratic, but tight spins lol
You make anything look good.
Don’t focus so much on the haters, it makes for even better videos.
Great work on the setup details though! And generally your flights 😊
It's fun to engage with negativity and create something useful and positive out of it.
Thanks Jon!
I find myself land it much better with the wing swept :)
Great video... much like your video a couple weeks ago with the dualing F-16's, there's just lots of great info that can be applied to other planes too. If I could make a video of my journey learning to fly my L-39 Albatross, more specifically, land the thing w/o stalling it, that video would look much like this one. And when I finally figured it out.... oh how my attitude changed with that plane! I love the F-14's, but recently bought an F-15 instead because being on the newer side to this stuff I didn't want the added complexities of variable wing sweep. Yet.
Happy to help, man! You'll love this jet when you get it.
Don’t really care about critics. Only thing I know is that in my over 40 yrs of RC flying, I‘ve never learned more about EDF jets from anyone but you. Haven’t flown my 64 Tomcat yet as the field is awful this year, but it sure will get setup like yours.
Happy to help, man!
What Simpson, Bruckheimer and Tom Cruise left out of Top Gun, was the Tomcat in reality is extremely difficult to fly. And the split throttle thing, much like the an engine flame out on approach, yields a much different outcome than what TG Maverick portrayed. Great, now I'm shilling for Freewing! Can I have a free F-14 FW?
The only crash I've had with the 14 was during takeoff. It did not like bouncing into the air before it was at takeoff speed.
Nope, it definitely doesn't like that at all. If you exceed critical AoA on takeoff, you've gotta have a good gyro or really fast reaction times to kick the wings back to level before it drops into the ground.
I said all this about the plane from day 1. Some people listen....some don't.
Jon great video and don't change your format your site is great keep them coming 😊
Appreciate that, glad you enjoyed it!
You should make a revised “path to flying jets” video series.
FREAKING AWESOMELY SAID !!
Superb analysis, Jon. This should be required viewing for all purchases, would save Motion a lot of service calls. Am new to your channel, sorry if this has been covered: do you check for roll coupling with rudder? Like you, I use rudder in downwind/base turn, but the technique gets complicated with some designs (not suggesting this is the case with the F-14). An AF F-22 and FW F-35 both had some serious adverse roll coupling which makes the rudder technique reeely tough for the unaware pilot. My guess is the F-14 has a bit of proverse roll, probably not much to mix out. Personally, I always establish my rudder-aileron mix for KE flight, so that once mixed correctly, my slow rolls/point rolls are on rails. What do you think? Is it worth explaining, if you haven't already? Congrats on such a great landing technique explanation!
Roll coupling is pretty standard with twin tail fighter jets, so small amounts of rudder should be used to coordinate turns. We generally adjust for coupling as it happens in the air instead of using a mix, as the effect of coupling differs based on airspeed.
@@TwoBrosRC You're good!
Hi Jon thanks for the review, I’m a fan. This was my experience….
It may not be any pilots fault motion assembly has issues. I’ve had the F-14 for two flights. On its maiden it had an awkward left yaw. I landed safely and rechecked all the surfaces. On the second flight after takeoff and making a left procedure turn the right esc shut off cause a violent spiral in to the open ocean total loss. Flying 44yrs advance pattern, and nitro ducted fan from its inception. Motion RC customer service not acceptable after sending them the video proof.💔
Sometimes mass manufacturing has issues. That's why you chat with support and get their take on whether it's replaceable or simply cosmetic. ESC failures are another story entirely, though.
i'm used to land my 80mm power off, it's very easy, didn't experienced the 64mm yet
this channel is great the knowledge is worth paying for. makes me wanna buy and fly
I have one and i dont have any problem landing it. I feel it flys better than the 80mm one
B-1B appearance.. 👍🔥
This is my dream RC jet. I have the FW 64mm A10, I have yet to fly it. Rookie jet pilot.
Foam planes have made people goofy. They think because they can fly a foamy P-51 or a lightly loaded jet that anything with a heavier wing loading is flawed. When you had to build a plane yourself, you didn’t build a plane that was harder to fly/land because it took months or longer to build. By the way, you don’t have to land an Avanti with power but if you do, every landing will be good and you’ll learn how to land heavier jets.
Between the battery and the aluminum swing wing frame it has an obnoxious high CG. This is by no means a “defective product”. The twin 80 is a defective product because the landing gear cannot hold the weight of the aircraft.
Great video! I did what you said and 10 good landings so far 👌
Thanks for the tips✌️
Happy to help!
In 100% of all crashes I have - the first thing I say is “pilot error” as it is really always pilot error- even with signal losses - it is usually pilot error
Had a good maiden with the wings swept out. Still figuring out how to fly it with the wings swept back, i seemed to have a bit of roll oscillation that config. Did you have a mix to dial down the aileron gyro gains with the wings swept ?
Nope, our gains are the same, just governed by the throttle.
Can i do forward programming on a dx8...i really want to buy the 10 channel spektrum reciever but not if i cant program it on my dx8...
No reason you wouldn't be able to.
I only land the E-Flite F-14 by killing the throttle well in advance and pitch down to keep it from stalling until it's right above the ground and then faire. I'm landing in the grass. Why am I able to do that if what you say is correct?
Didn't say you couldn't do it, only that it's more predictable to land with throttle as the jet is designed to land.
Hi, how do you setup your throw for aileron, elevator and flap? Is it per manual?
Nope, it's all maxed out.
Great video all hard truth.
I'm building one from a dozen year old starmax kit and if I can get it to fly 90 percent that good I'll be a happy cat.
Doing spoilers and full flaps
I only just got into rc planes and I just didn’t want to worry about what plane to buy as my first and I’d say I have a fair bit of knowledge as a 16 year old that grew up watching science physic and mechanical engineering content on UA-cam so I built my own plane using chat gpt and UA-cam to figure out what I didn’t know and I didn’t install a gyro on it even tho it’s my first plane so I got on pica sim on my mums pc and used the trainer plane and now I’ve flown my plane plenty of times and I’m already fairly confident in my skill to fly nothing to serious tho just simple stuff like low pass buys and loops and rolls and stuff like that I can’t wait to get more into the hobby and meet new people and fly some fun stuff 😄
when you sweep the wings , are the aireloins still working or just the elevons ?
The ailerons continue to function with the stabilators operating differentially.
Its astonishing you had to make a video like this referencing the keyboard warriors, but its very informative nonetheless. Hope youre doing well Jon
Agreed - but non-stop complaints can make a big difference in how a plane is perceived by people and make them reconsider buying it.
Where do you set the CG of the jet, I balanced with CG mark on the jet but having difficulty to land- the jet drops so much during landing approach, any suggestion?
10mm behind the marks for us. Carry thrust into the landing.
Thanks! What is your experience with regard to flying/landing with or without Elevon (default) setup, which one better?
We only fly it like the full scale F-14, so the setup you see here is what we've flown it on.
I got this plane and I love it i don't know why people hate on it thanks for the vid man! Are you doing a review on the new sportix?
Probably not anytime soon.
I agree it's not the planes fault. It's the pilots fault. I love the F-14 64mm jet. It flies great.
Isnt the fullscale tomcat also notorious for having some "interesting" quirks at high angle of attack? I dont think this is gonna be the easiest birdy to land in that weight class the first place
Yup.
Seems like people on rc groups complain about everything. Seems like they blame the plane , but really it's there piloting skills.
I just don't understand what's wrong with people on there. There's so much bad advice coming from them.
Sometimes the criticism is warranted. But in this situation, the plane being small with a similar wing load to the twin 80 is really all you need to understand why it flies like it does.
@TwoBrosRC hey I been flying for 40yrs and my friend bought one and he let me maiden it. It bit me on landing, but can't blame the plane , cause it was pilot error.
I agree. I play dcs hehe . So land it with the dcs approach. with power so you have control over the plane and you have a way out if things go bad. If you come in with no power you have less options .Im no expert.
Lmao, you're hilarious. I had this jet and found I was no maverick lol. Crashed and burned on first landing attempt. Lucked out and had a guy agree to purchase it as is, so he saved me from fixing it and trying again lol
You'll get there man! It's a trickier jet to fly, but if Jon can do it, you can do it too.
@TwoBrosRC at this point you and Airguardian are Maverick and Doug from Iron Eagle the way you all fly these jets lol
When I bought my wife I had to hide her from this plane.
Anyone who wants to fly a f-14 tomcat I recommend to just get the twin 80mm edf , it’s only a 100 difference and it is a wonderful flyer .. I have seen more crashes with the twin 64mm than the twin 80 .. to me the twin 80 has a better glide approach..
The 64 is more affordable for multiple reasons, the biggest difference being that it doesn't require two batteries.
@ you will be paying more on repairs and disappointment 😞
Considering it costs nearly 2x the price of the 80 to get it up to par (per ua-cam.com/video/7hgLGVFSDXE/v-deo.html), no, not really.
I wanna start with the FMS F16 70mm
But i have never flown RC planes
But i want to try it though
The Yak 130 has my attention also
Trust me man, don't start with an EDF, my friend did it and it didn't end well I would recommend an aeroscout or a timber for your first thats what I did and I never crashed it ( I started with the Eflite twin timber)
Hop on Discord! We've got several recommendations you can work with to get started which will get you on the right path: discord.gg/twobrosrc
@tannermartin143
I will check it out
@TwoBrosRC
I'm watching your video about the Twin Timber
Yeah it's definitely worth a try
That's a good redefining maybe this particular jet , I'm still thinking about getting it , I have the 80mm one , an I definitely simply don't wanna do all that I had to do to this one as I did to the 80mm , an all the changing servo's an so one is going simply end up to pay just as much or more than I did with the 80mm an that along its cool . Love MotioRC 😂 , but I've been stuck thinking on this one here . I've even gotten the 70mm f22 , But yet not this one . I want them to come out with a *(90mm)* F-35 , HINT !!! 😂 I've been saying this for over 6 years lol it still hasn't happened yet for us😂
You don't really need to do much to make this jet fly well except swap the stab servos out and follow our setup guide in the original vid.
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Man. This plane really got a bad rap. 😂 But really, If you dont know how to land a jet with flaps and throttle management, this 64mm F14 is not for you. Just because you dont have the skill to fly or land a plane according to its aerodynamic requirement doesnt mean that the plane is flawed. Maybe RC planes SHOULD come with some kind of SKILL LEVEL REQUIREMENT. Like how plastic models are rated. But im sure people will over rate themselves just because they have been flying cubs or high wings for 30 years. This 64mm is DEFINITELY not easy to land. But should manufacturers stop making planes because they are hard to land? Its hard to accept but sometimes you have to actually understand how things work and acknowledge what your level of skill is before blaming everything everything else other than yourself. Just because you spent 600+ dollars to buy something doesnt give you the right to claim something is defective just because you had a bad experience with it. A basketball is just a basketball to a random person. Skill and talent is the differentiator.
You nailed it - it's not an issue with the jet, it's an issue with skill. Skill is something you can improve. The jet would be impossible to land otherwise.
It flies good. But landing it blows.
It doesn't have to blow if you follow the techniques demonstrated here. It's not really hard at all once you grasp the power curve.
Have you tried Jon’s setup yet? Although the gains are subjective to your environmental factors his setups are usually golden on jets. My f16 80&90 are Beast on his setup recommendations. And I hated them setup as recommended stock I literally was going to sell my Eflite thinderbird f16 80 after the first flight. Thrust tube and Jon’s setup in one evening made that and my fw f16 90 the most fun ever! Just my two Pennie’s. Hopefully you can try his setup on this bird too. Be a shame to not like the plane
100%. I like the jet for sure. It’s just not as care free as the F22 F16 Rafale and pretty much every other edf I have. That nasty stall if you pitch just a little too much on landing is a little obnoxious. I love the accelerated stalls in flight though. Reminds me a lot of the full scale f14, if DCS is to be believed. But as for landing, it took me a few flights to get it down.
Get the cg slightly back, add 5 percent down elevator with flaps, put flaps only on final, cut throttle for a second then feed it back in when plane starts to descend, do that until it touches the ground. That's it
Most people that have recently learned how to fly do not even know what lift means.ever since the almighty foamy had made everyone a pilot. They will buy a first time plane like this, not take one lesson and fly the plane right into the ground and blame the plane. What your discribing on landing is for most warbirds. 3D pilots who have never flown a warbird with no instruction will probably crash the warbird. Forget it guy your wrong there all right and it’s the plane. Airspeed, airspeed, airspeed is your friend not altitude. Good luck to you all and learn to fly before buying such an advanced plane and you should learn how to fly without a gyro. All I fly are warbirds and not one with a gyro.
We were with you up until you started gyro bashing. The kind of flying we prefer to do is only possible with a gyro stabilizing the airframe, just like most full scale fighters. Don't knock tech, all it does is make you look afraid of using the same tech full scale fighters use to ensure air dominance.
Two shills rc 😂 its insane people think you aren't giving your true opinion after all these years
The only thing i disagree with you is your moto if you can do it we can do it too! Not all the people have the same feeling, same reflections, or the talent you have. For sure practice can make you better but i am sure that i will never reach your level!
Jon said the same thing. Practice makes perfect. The more you fly, the better you get!
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Dude. You are still the best. You need to lay off on the dramatic narrations. Maybe just talk in your own voice, not a radio. D j voice.
No thanks. This is our channel, and Jon prefers narrating in an easy-to-understand voice that gives the channel a specific feel.
@TwoBrosRC just relax a bit
Seriously, dude. I hear the difference between your video voice and your narrative voice. They are much different. Stop it. Be yourself
Never mind be who you are
@TwoBrosRC he sounds fake