Great stuff. Just to clarify - are you saying that you should be looking at the intermediate point rather than the golf ball until impact? Also do you visualise the club moving through the intermediate point or the ball travelling over it? (Or something else!) thanks
This is where the premium channel really has the upper hand in getting golfers to the next level: titles to watch there to answer your questions in spades are “blur of club” and “arc-blur unstoppable momentum series”; once you connect your task with the arc-blur and the intermediate point to fit the flight plan, watch out!! Https://www.wisdomingolfpremium.com
I was curious because I’m left eye dominant so curious I went out in my backyard and took a few swings less ball of course. Wow, that swing felt flawless… three times in a row. I’m taking to the range tomorrow. At this point thank you It explains a lot!!!
Right on! We have come a long way with studies on human vision since then and discovered it has a huge bearing on how we react to our targets! See our premium channel at www.wisdomingolfpremium.com and check out our “alignment reload” and “alignment reset” series of videos! Then see “blur of club” and “arc blur unstoppable momentum series” which shows you how to deliver through this human side targeting system!
Dude your teaching is amazing , I’ve been using one of your drills with having two balls in front of each other and trying to hit both of them , tell ya what it’s been a game changer bro! Keep up the good work mate!
Shawn you have the best training videos I.have ever seen and you make your teachings easy to comprehend. I really like them. On my comment below I was trying the grass cutting and I seem to have no consistent level at Impact using the swing you recommend. The target training you provide is excellent. I just cannot get the ball target out of my way. I was a marine and know about focusing on targets. The targets we focused on was looked at. The ball being down and the target to the left of my head makes it very hard to make something not in my sight picture a target. I have played about 17 years and I am a 47 handicap. I take lessons and. I am all over the course. I go places most golfers have never seen. I will continue to watch and try your advice. Thanks for taking time to answer me.
The "position" that you display at 3:38 is crucial to pure contact. The concept of squeezing a ball against a door frame with the club is spot on. I practice doing it, then I take that same feeling to the swing. If you're not in that position at impact, it's going to be a long day at the office for certain. Great video Shawn.
Watched this last night and used the looking at the intermediate point, then the ball technique and it was SO much easier to stay with the target. Used this today for the first time and shot 2 over on a 9 which is 4 shots better then my best 9 this year! Immediate results! Thanks for the video WIG
Shawn, so timely is your teaching today. Lately, I have really been struggling with this occasional wandering eye/distracted eyes dilemma. I am right handed and I have discovered I am right eye dominant. If I tilt my head too much left and don't fully see the ball with my right eye, I lose focus and sometimes come out of the shot - especially with driver. If I keep my right eye on the back of the ball throughout the BS and DS with some head tilt....much better focus and result and staying with the shot and keeping my head still and behind the ball until impact. You are right- on when you say that too much technical thinking can lead to eye distraction(at least for me). Would love to hear any other thoughts you have on those of us right handed players who are also right-eye dominant. Keep up the fantastic journey down the rabbit hole of golf, Shawn!
Study top players who are strongly right eye dominant. I would especially suggest Sorenstan. I am blind in my left eye (from childhood) and have used Sorenstan as a model. However, you can include Duval and many others on the tour. What I have found is a shorter backswing and opening the hips early through the swing than the players that are left eye dominant. It is natural to do this because of sight, but it is effective. Look at tapes of Sorenstan and you will see her do this with her irons, but with the driver (much longer swing) she allows for the time to generate speed and keeps her eyes on the ball at contact. I learned I can do this with a driver because the ball is on a tee. I also strongly recommend what Shawn has to say about alignment. This is true in spades when you are right eye dominant and right handed. I always fought aligning to myr right and coming over the top until I worked on alignment as Shawn describes in his video on this topic.
Have no idea why that guy behind you looks so dead bored. Very good video. I have been coaching for more than 15 years and I never really thought that the student was club centric when he looked behind ont he back swing. Great idea to start at intermediate point and go back to ball. And Duval and Sorenstam are two of my most fav players. All that in just 8 min!? Amazing work.
This is a great teaching! When I putt, even long ones I look at the hole and I putt much better. Haven't tried it for chips and pitches yet but now I wonder. In the last part of the video you talked about players who switch their vision to the target during the swing while keeping behind the ball. Dumb question because of the players you listed but for someone who doesn't play every day (8.9 hcp) is this a valid thing to do? Can't wait to get to the range and try it.
Excellent Video! Excuse me for the intrusion, I would appreciate your opinion. Have you thought about - Paneevelyn Swinging Clubsman (search on google)? It is a smashing one off product for revealing an effortless golf swing technique without the normal expense. Ive heard some pretty good things about it and my best friend Jordan finally got excellent success with it.
Hey Shawn, another great video, do you think people who tend to look over the ball without any tilt behind are more likely to have a backswing that goes on the inside?
No, it is a mixed bag and it depends on what they are focused on at address; are they trying to hit the ball, find a position, or are they focused on where they want to start the ball?
@@golflessons thanks shawn, I've been playing for just over 2 years and currently have a handicap of 9. However I have a tendency to let the ball become my target. Since watching your videos on intermediate points I've never hit my irons so well. However I have somewhat fallen back in to my same rut, but I tend to find myself thinking about a neutral plane backswing, and just come straight back over the top crashing in to the ball. Even when I separate the ball and the target and swing towards my target, I find my subconscious and upper body overtaking and allowing the club to come swing back over the top. I have tried tilting the head back and this sometimes results in the best hit irons I've ever hit, but also can be dire. At a bit of a crossroad not knowing which way to go at the moment 🙈
@@edwardbugby7493 the backswing plane you are referring to, is probably your culprit and is probably too flat; see “fencing for power shawn clement” and perform the task with the lead arm just like in the video; then see “Free,swinging arms shawn clement” and “arm and body timing shawn clement” part 1-2
@@golflessons thanks shawn! You're a blessing. I had a lesson on the weekend with a Zen golf instructor. Before I saw him I had been using your instructions and belting it. Since seeing him I haven't been able to hit the ball, so I'm trying to get back to where I had left off with your instruction! Thanks Shawn
Dominiant eye is a factor in beginners setting up to the ball,Yes the desire to hit at the ball with the clubhead and doing no ball/hand/eye co-ordination drills are the major reasons for poor golf. But if I had been left eye dominant like Jack Nicklaus and many other top golfers I would have set up naturally better, in the end I developed a Monika/Duval action but had to find this out for myself as in those days i didnt have the benefit of your wisdom!
Right eye dominance and lack of your Wisdoms are why most amateur golfers set up with the head center to forward of center and most Pros set up with their head center to right of center with Jack N being a supreme/extreme example.
So let me get this right. I am right handed and right eye dominant, so I should not look at the ball at address but look at the grass a couple feet in front? Then look at the ball on the takeaway?
Shawn where do you currently stand on taking divots? If I'm task and target oriented should I organize my set up to go a little deeper through the ground or to take as small a divot as possible while 'cutting the dandelion'? It looks like the last time you addressed this on UA-cam was 7 years ago.. :)
Depends on the shot, the height of the shot, the firmness of the ground, the lie etc...see my latest "ball striking shawn clement" and "hitting out of divots shawn clement"
To keep my swing as effortless as possible, I've been using the perpetual motion drill at the side of the golf ball which allows the club to track on plane. Then I move the machine in when I go to play the actual shot. It's a bit easier with the driver because you are never allowing the club to touch the earth...with irons, it's not so easy as there is a tendency to make contact with the ground which muddies up my club face. Cleaning the club face, sort of takes me out of that feeling I want to have seconds before playing the actual shot. Should I just do the perpetual motion above the ground and then lower everything when I go to play the shot?
Thomas; exact same routine as you! If you can split the difference with the irons practice drill (i.e. thin it with less grass dirt) then go to the ball slightly lower, you'll graduate that better for the actual ball swing. Shawn is so good, he can do the air swing near the ball, then lower it for ball/ground real swing. I suspect he will recommend that if possible, as you proposed. cheers.
Yes. That is what I've been doing. The perp motion drill is fantastic because you can use it not only to prepare yourself in the best way for the actual shot, but it makes it so easy to troubleshoot after you've hit the shot. I have had a tendency to hook the ball...that's my usual miss. The hooked shot feels way different from the perp motion swing...I feel that I've basically stalled at the ball (defaulting to it)...this causes the arms to wrap around my body (crash) and the whole swing feels short...the opposite of the perp motion feel. When I allow myself to make a full turn through and allow the arms to finish where they want (release), it's always a more desirable result in terms of distance and accuracy.
Hi Shawn, been following you for a while now and just started trying your teachings with very satisfying results, but now thinking as I feel my swing is far more upright , should I then check my lie angles? As I know it's very important! Would appreciate your comment! Thanks so much for your great lessons , regards from uk John.
Hey John! You know I will be in London in 3 weeks right? Email me at info@wisdomingolf.com if you want to join one of our clinics! I will soon be showing my fitting at Ping and they showed me a great trick for seeing lie angle without hitting on a lie board and just regular shots on grass with a sharpie! Trace a straight line on the ball and set it vertical and at the back of it; then hit a shot to a target and see if it prints perpendicular to the grooves!! :)
Shawn Clement I would love that but a little far for me Shawn, if you visit the south west (Cornwall ) I would deffo visit you! Ps took your teaching on course today and for the first time in my life I'm predicting where the ball will finish, awsum ! I'm 11 handicap for yrs now expecting to get that way down! Keep up the gd work, and huge thanks, john
I have no left eye and the slightest movement of my head means that I lose sight of the ball. I've found an advantage in formalising the movement as did Jack Niklaus and focus on a point some inches behind the ball during the back swing. This has the effect that my downswing seems to be more in sequence eliminating in some part the tendency to come 'over-the-top'. Am I doing the right thing here.?
See the drill I use in the "turn-tilt-swing shawn clement" video and "head position and lag shawn clement" and "tilt acid test shawn clement" are pretty good too! Shawn
Thanks for the links Shawn but I've watched most of your fine videos over and over and in fact have copies of your DVDs I've virtually worn out. I apologise for letting you down because for the life of me, nothing works. Last weekend for example, I used up 100 shots in 12 holes losing ten balls in the process - a typical round for me. I stopped counting after that for fear of losing heart and never playing again. On the driving range, I hit straight shot after shot, much to the admiration of other players but once on a golf course, the wheels come off right royally. I don't play with others because of being an embarrassment. I've had hours of tuition only to be told by several of your peers that it's all in my head. Sorry for the bad news....
Agreed; but we went deeper than that!! See “throw your club straight shawn clement” and “why you cannot align properly shawn clement”; these have to do with humans being incapable of lining anything up without their “binocular vision”
I had a private lesson today and the pro was talkin about my eye dominance. Apparently I have the wrong eye dominant. I still don't know what he was talking about.
The brain is amazing at problem solving; just give it the proper focus and task: that of cutting through the dandelion stem towards the target with ease and velocity! See “predict solid contact and direction shawn clement”
Shawn great advice but for some reason the target advice and cutting the grass does not work for me. Tried many times and when I do I hit the ball on top, or hit the ground which does not happen on my regular swing. Not sure why your advice does not work for me, but. For most people.
Funny the TV commentators never talk about this. I like to think I'm driving a nail through the back of the ball. Almost parallel to the ground. Not a nail driving down into the ground.
Right-handed and thought my being right-eye dominant was the cause of my "losing sight" of the ball on the downswing when I set with head cocked away from the target. One less excuse I now have.
Great stuff. Just to clarify - are you saying that you should be looking at the intermediate point rather than the golf ball until impact? Also do you visualise the club moving through the intermediate point or the ball travelling over it? (Or something else!) thanks
This is where the premium channel really has the upper hand in getting golfers to the next level: titles to watch there to answer your questions in spades are “blur of club” and “arc-blur unstoppable momentum series”; once you connect your task with the arc-blur and the intermediate point to fit the flight plan, watch out!! Https://www.wisdomingolfpremium.com
I was curious because I’m left eye dominant so curious I went out in my backyard and took a few swings less ball of course.
Wow, that swing felt flawless… three times in a row.
I’m taking to the range tomorrow.
At this point thank you
It explains a lot!!!
Right on! We have come a long way with studies on human vision since then and discovered it has a huge bearing on how we react to our targets! See our premium channel at www.wisdomingolfpremium.com and check out our “alignment reload” and “alignment reset” series of videos! Then see “blur of club” and “arc blur unstoppable momentum series” which shows you how to deliver through this human side targeting system!
Best tip I ever heard. Keep the head behind the ball! I believe it's one of the top important fundamentals of the swing.
Thank you David!
Wow what a simple explanation Sean, I can't understand why we make things so complicated thank you.
Mick
So glad you enjoyed that one Mick! Easy task to master! 😀👍
Dude your teaching is amazing , I’ve been using one of your drills with having two balls in front of each other and trying to hit both of them , tell ya what it’s been a game changer bro! Keep up the good work mate!
Shawn you have the best training videos I.have ever seen and you make your teachings easy to comprehend. I really like them. On my comment below I was trying the grass cutting and I seem to have no consistent level at Impact using the swing you recommend. The target training you provide is excellent. I just cannot get the ball target out of my way. I was a marine and know about focusing on targets. The targets we focused on was looked at. The ball being down and the target to the left of my head makes it very hard to make something not in my sight picture a target. I have played about 17 years and I am a 47 handicap. I take lessons and. I am all over the course. I go places most golfers have never seen. I will continue to watch and try your advice. Thanks for taking time to answer me.
The "position" that you display at 3:38 is crucial to pure contact. The concept of squeezing a ball against a door frame with the club is spot on. I practice doing it, then I take that same feeling to the swing. If you're not in that position at impact, it's going to be a long day at the office for certain. Great video Shawn.
Watched this last night and used the looking at the intermediate point, then the ball technique and it was SO much easier to stay with the target. Used this today for the first time and shot 2 over on a 9 which is 4 shots better then my best 9 this year! Immediate results! Thanks for the video WIG
Right on Dylan!! Thanks for the feedback, Bobby will be happy to hear that!
Shawn, so timely is your teaching today. Lately, I have really been struggling with this occasional wandering eye/distracted eyes dilemma. I am right handed and I have discovered I am right eye dominant. If I tilt my head too much left and don't fully see the ball with my right eye, I lose focus and sometimes come out of the shot - especially with driver. If I keep my right eye on the back of the ball throughout the BS and DS with some head tilt....much better focus and result and staying with the shot and keeping my head still and behind the ball until impact. You are right- on when you say that too much technical thinking can lead to eye distraction(at least for me). Would love to hear any other thoughts you have on those of us right handed players who are also right-eye dominant. Keep up the fantastic journey down the rabbit hole of golf, Shawn!
Thanks Paul! I am sure we will cover that at some point! :)
Study top players who are strongly right eye dominant. I would especially suggest Sorenstan. I am blind in my left eye (from childhood) and have used Sorenstan as a model. However, you can include Duval and many others on the tour. What I have found is a shorter backswing and opening the hips early through the swing than the players that are left eye dominant. It is natural to do this because of sight, but it is effective. Look at tapes of Sorenstan and you will see her do this with her irons, but with the driver (much longer swing) she allows for the time to generate speed and keeps her eyes on the ball at contact. I learned I can do this with a driver because the ball is on a tee. I also strongly recommend what Shawn has to say about alignment. This is true in spades when you are right eye dominant and right handed. I always fought aligning to myr right and coming over the top until I worked on alignment as Shawn describes in his video on this topic.
I have to admire Skullys' concentration. Never even blinks. Great lesson by the way :)
She is awesome! Our rock!! 😝😀
Have no idea why that guy behind you looks so dead bored. Very good video. I have been coaching for more than 15 years and I never really thought that the student was club centric when he looked behind ont he back swing. Great idea to start at intermediate point and go back to ball. And Duval and Sorenstam are two of my most fav players. All that in just 8 min!? Amazing work.
thanks for the great comment! 😀👍👌
Shawn, we need to see more on course videos, those are awesome! Thanks
Coming! We did a nice 6 part series on course for premium today; 1st one coming out Friday! Hey, it has been a long winter man!!!
This is a great teaching! When I putt, even long ones I look at the hole and I putt much better. Haven't tried it for chips and pitches yet but now I wonder. In the last part of the video you talked about players who switch their vision to the target during the swing while keeping behind the ball. Dumb question because of the players you listed but for someone who doesn't play every day (8.9 hcp) is this a valid thing to do? Can't wait to get to the range and try it.
You may find it a bit scary at first, that is for sure!!
Really good stuff. Thank you Shawn Clement!
Excellent Video! Excuse me for the intrusion, I would appreciate your opinion. Have you thought about - Paneevelyn Swinging Clubsman (search on google)? It is a smashing one off product for revealing an effortless golf swing technique without the normal expense. Ive heard some pretty good things about it and my best friend Jordan finally got excellent success with it.
But the eye issues comes into play when a “that way” isn’t exactly straight
Wow seven years ago…
I hope you’re well !
Thank you and yes! We are doing awesome up here in Quebec City at the Royal Quebec Golf Club!
Hey Shawn, another great video, do you think people who tend to look over the ball without any tilt behind are more likely to have a backswing that goes on the inside?
No, it is a mixed bag and it depends on what they are focused on at address; are they trying to hit the ball, find a position, or are they focused on where they want to start the ball?
@@golflessons thanks shawn, I've been playing for just over 2 years and currently have a handicap of 9. However I have a tendency to let the ball become my target. Since watching your videos on intermediate points I've never hit my irons so well. However I have somewhat fallen back in to my same rut, but I tend to find myself thinking about a neutral plane backswing, and just come straight back over the top crashing in to the ball. Even when I separate the ball and the target and swing towards my target, I find my subconscious and upper body overtaking and allowing the club to come swing back over the top. I have tried tilting the head back and this sometimes results in the best hit irons I've ever hit, but also can be dire. At a bit of a crossroad not knowing which way to go at the moment 🙈
@@edwardbugby7493 the backswing plane you are referring to, is probably your culprit and is probably too flat; see “fencing for power shawn clement” and perform the task with the lead arm just like in the video; then see
“Free,swinging arms shawn clement” and “arm and body timing shawn clement” part 1-2
@@golflessons thanks shawn! You're a blessing. I had a lesson on the weekend with a Zen golf instructor. Before I saw him I had been using your instructions and belting it. Since seeing him I haven't been able to hit the ball, so I'm trying to get back to where I had left off with your instruction! Thanks Shawn
@@edwardbugby7493 what did you guys work on?
Dominiant eye is a factor in beginners setting up to the ball,Yes the desire to hit at the ball with the clubhead and doing no ball/hand/eye co-ordination drills are the major reasons for poor golf.
But if I had been left eye dominant like Jack Nicklaus and many other top golfers I would have set up naturally better, in the end I developed a Monika/Duval action but had to find this out for myself as in those days i didnt have the benefit of your wisdom!
Nice comment Graham, thank you!
Right eye dominance and lack of your Wisdoms are why most amateur golfers set up with the head center to forward of center and most Pros set up with their head center to right of center with Jack N being a supreme/extreme example.
So let me get this right. I am right handed and right eye dominant, so I should not look at the ball at address but look at the grass a couple feet in front? Then look at the ball on the takeaway?
Shawn where do you currently stand on taking divots? If I'm task and target oriented should I organize my set up to go a little deeper through the ground or to take as small a divot as possible while 'cutting the dandelion'? It looks like the last time you addressed this on UA-cam was 7 years ago.. :)
Depends on the shot, the height of the shot, the firmness of the ground, the lie etc...see my latest "ball striking shawn clement" and "hitting out of divots shawn clement"
Love it 👊🏌️♂️
To keep my swing as effortless as possible, I've been using the perpetual motion drill at the side of the golf ball which allows the club to track on plane. Then I move the machine in when I go to play the actual shot. It's a bit easier with the driver because you are never allowing the club to touch the earth...with irons, it's not so easy as there is a tendency to make contact with the ground which muddies up my club face. Cleaning the club face, sort of takes me out of that feeling I want to have seconds before playing the actual shot. Should I just do the perpetual motion above the ground and then lower everything when I go to play the shot?
Thomas; exact same routine as you! If you can split the difference with the irons practice drill (i.e. thin it with less grass dirt) then go to the ball slightly lower, you'll graduate that better for the actual ball swing. Shawn is so good, he can do the air swing near the ball, then lower it for ball/ground real swing. I suspect he will recommend that if possible, as you proposed. cheers.
Yes. That is what I've been doing. The perp motion drill is fantastic because you can use it not only to prepare yourself in the best way for the actual shot, but it makes it so easy to troubleshoot after you've hit the shot. I have had a tendency to hook the ball...that's my usual miss. The hooked shot feels way different from the perp motion swing...I feel that I've basically stalled at the ball (defaulting to it)...this causes the arms to wrap around my body (crash) and the whole swing feels short...the opposite of the perp motion feel. When I allow myself to make a full turn through and allow the arms to finish where they want (release), it's always a more desirable result in terms of distance and accuracy.
Great little thread you guys! You are close Thomas!
See my "predict solid contact shawn clement" part 1-2
Hi Shawn, been following you for a while now and just started trying your teachings with very satisfying results, but now thinking as I feel my swing is far more upright , should I then check my lie angles? As I know it's very important! Would appreciate your comment! Thanks so much for your great lessons , regards from uk John.
Hey John! You know I will be in London in 3 weeks right? Email me at info@wisdomingolf.com if you want to join one of our clinics! I will soon be showing my fitting at Ping and they showed me a great trick for seeing lie angle without hitting on a lie board and just regular shots on grass with a sharpie! Trace a straight line on the ball and set it vertical and at the back of it; then hit a shot to a target and see if it prints perpendicular to the grooves!! :)
Shawn Clement I would love that but a little far for me Shawn, if you visit the south west (Cornwall ) I would deffo visit you! Ps took your teaching on course today and for the first time in my life I'm predicting where the ball will finish, awsum ! I'm 11 handicap for yrs now expecting to get that way down! Keep up the gd work, and huge thanks, john
I have no left eye and the slightest movement of my head means that I lose sight of the ball. I've found an advantage in formalising the movement as did Jack Niklaus and focus on a point some inches behind the ball during the back swing. This has the effect that my downswing seems to be more in sequence eliminating in some part the tendency to come 'over-the-top'. Am I doing the right thing here.?
See the drill I use in the "turn-tilt-swing shawn clement" video and "head position and lag shawn clement" and "tilt acid test shawn clement" are pretty good too!
Shawn
Thanks for the links Shawn but I've watched most of your fine videos over and over and in fact have copies of your DVDs I've virtually worn out. I apologise for letting you down because for the life of me, nothing works. Last weekend for example, I used up 100 shots in 12 holes losing ten balls in the process - a typical round for me. I stopped counting after that for fear of losing heart and never playing again. On the driving range, I hit straight shot after shot, much to the admiration of other players but once on a golf course, the wheels come off right royally. I don't play with others because of being an embarrassment. I've had hours of tuition only to be told by several of your peers that it's all in my head. Sorry for the bad news....
Awesome Stuff 👍👏👏
Glad you are linking it! 😀👍
Opposite eye dominance is the #1 cause of the reverse pivot.
Agreed; but we went deeper than that!! See “throw your club straight shawn clement” and “why you cannot align properly shawn clement”; these have to do with humans being incapable of lining anything up without their “binocular vision”
I had a private lesson today and the pro was talkin about my eye dominance. Apparently I have the wrong eye dominant. I still don't know what he was talking about.
Any advice for someone blind in right eye for setup and ball contact. ?
The brain is amazing at problem solving; just give it the proper focus and task: that of cutting through the dandelion stem towards the target with ease and velocity! See “predict solid contact and direction shawn clement”
Shawn great advice but for some reason the target advice and cutting the grass does not work for me. Tried many times and when I do I hit the ball on top, or hit the ground which does not happen on my regular swing. Not sure why your advice does not work for me, but. For most people.
Well that is great feedback!! What were you focused on before?
Funny the TV commentators never talk about this. I like to think I'm driving a nail through the back of the ball. Almost parallel to the ground. Not a nail driving down into the ground.
TV commentators have not been helping much in so far as improving your game; only entertainment value...:)
Right-handed and thought my being right-eye dominant was the cause of my "losing sight" of the ball on the downswing when I set with head cocked away from the target. One less excuse I now have.
😂😂 sorry Joe!!
The guy behind you looks a bit bored. You should tell hims to stand up straight.
You mean skully?? it is a she!😝